More likely HOFer: John Beilein or Jim Harbaugh

He was also named the head of the NCAA ethics committee for basketball. HOF's like that kind of "contributions to the game" stuff.

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/basketball/index.ssf/2009/05/ums_beilei…

and finished better than 3rd.

Ask me again after a couple wins against OSU.

Bo beat Woody's best team in all his years at OSU in year one, Harbaugh lost by 30 points. Also, the pace to 200 wins isn't a fair comparison because there are more games in a season now (both regular and opportunity for postseason games). 

What concerned me was that the refs allowed OSU to mug the Michigan receivers in the fourth quarter (when they were not tackling them before the ball was even thrown).  It was pretty clear to me in the fourth quarter that the refs were not going to let OSU lose.  You are right that the running game couldn't bail the passing game out when the refs neutralized it, and that was on the O-line.  Not sure if there wuldn't have been a bunch of holding calls if the running game was good, though.

and I'm speaking about both teams♣  You are not wrong about us falling apart at the time of the game when we should have been putting the finishing touches on a victory.  I agree with you as well as to the fact we set up good,personnel wise,in last year's matchup to make a statement much earlier than many anticipated. However, no matter my knowing we could have won that game easily if we had played the last 10 minutes like the first 50, we would have walked off victorious. Many point to Hoke winning in his first year in Colombus. That team he beat couldn't qualify for entourage duty for  Urb's present team. Hell yes, it was disappointing, but at the same time quite rewarding to know that in two years Jim Harbaugh had closed a gap that was, metaphorically speaking, as wide as is the division between our two political parties today. It's a little difficult to comprehend he has actually achieved this in less than 730 days. How he has accomplished so much so quickly is rehashed below but we are all aware. And just like Coach Harbaugh,  the fans realize there is still a lot of work to be done before we can field a team as equallly talented as OSU does every year. The Michigan  fan base possesses some of the most intellgent fans in the country and we don't make demands of our coach, thinking that a win over a certain team will exorcise all our demons and we'll pisss sunshine and shit lollipops eternally thereafter.

They know when we do beat Urban due to having reaonably equal talent, a full roster, scheduled to replace those we are losing in any certain season with young men who have been exposed to the program, coached by Harbaugh Drveno, Mattison, Brown, Pep, Harbaugh the II, Frey, et al, and as a bonus, we are also returning both our statrjng qb and our wrs on both sides. Many UM fans are putting the onus on Harbaugh, after having only two full recruiting seasons, both of tremendous success, still four years minus Urb at their present positions, " suggesting assignment to the hot seat and equally ignornant statements." Harbaugh is still coaching, probably harder than Meyer, yet when you begin 120 yrds behind the front runner in the 400 meter dash, you have no choice but to keep your head down and attempt to close the gap as much as possible, and in that respect he has been fricking fantastic. He - hats off to assistants as well - have somehow been able to achieve three years work of results in just over two. That's incredible and a mesage to OSu both that , "Hey Urb, you've done a great job, but we're back and by that I mean the program has been totally rebuilit. Know you love a challenge, as do I, so let's boogie."

So Perkis I think at the same time I cannot disagree with the other poster who stated our lack of production did not concern him at all. I thought we would win until Wilton took what appeared to be an extended stride and dropped the ball. At this point what I felt might be ,eemed to be happening - I noticed Jabrill making a horrible decision on the prior defensive sequence- we had gotten away from playing football and reacting to what we were seeing and had begun to think too much, thereby limiting, at least to a degree, our natural tendencies and that is what normally separates great players from the average.  

I cannot disagree with him because I remember the head start Urban had, who he inheirited his initial season, of primary importance QB - Miller and TB - Hyde and essentially all he had to do was put his stamp on the team and add to an altready much better than average roster, which he has turned into excellent They were so sar ahead of the conference talent wise, playing down to MSU was the only excitement they gave the conference for about three years  Get an excellent coach add a bunch of five stars and you aren't going to get any worse.

We all know what Harbaugh faced at the same time Urban was enjoying the spoils of the previous regime had to not only find and sign players of the caliber to play with OSU and MSU, he had to do it quickly. He had to intill a winning attitude and he had to somehow restore their confidence to the level it was some three decades earlier, when he was a player in AA and the confidence of the team was second to none in the conference. In other words here are the  jobs of the respective coaches.

Meyer:Working onmaxiimizing the talents of this incredibly gifted team I inherited and am managing to improve the level to a degree its never experienced before, notwithstanding enjoying one of the greatest traditions in the game♣  I, and my entire staff, must take full advantage of this time Jim will be devoting, mainily to the collection of players having the talent to play close to our level so when he does complete that collection, and he will, we'll still have an advantage in that while he is coaching his boys to play at the caliber of ball required in the BIG, we'll be emphasizing aspects of the game, selected shadows of the whole, something he will not be able to do for another couple of years ;. So our mission right now is realize our advantage and maintain it as long as possible. 

Harbaugh:  Realize I will have a relatively small number of great players Brady did a great job  recuriting to Michigan  and from those not in the NFL,  we must absolutely get the most out of them we can in the short period of time we will have them. At the same time I must add talent and even more talent so we'll have a fine nucleus each season to build upon, while maintaining a level of work on the recruting path that will bring our talent to the level of OSU's as soon as possible because they are the standard in our league right now. at the same time never slowing down on the recruiting path, adding talent to both increase the number of players and raise drastically the level of play by the team, understanding it cannot be done overnight but have them playing at a perpetual heightened level. We know its unrealistic to expect to be at the level of the Bucks in a few short years while they have enjoyed being lead by one of the greatest there's ever been in Urb. 

.  This was definitely not the Michigan football program Jim had left when he signed his first pro contract. And there is no doubt what separated Michigan from the rest of the conference during his playing days was an expectaion, an uinderstanding they had worked harder than their opponent during the week of preparation and because at Michigan, " The only players we offer and grant admission to are among the greatest players in the nation.  We are better than the team in the other dressing room at each and every position. The only way, the only possible way they could walk out of this stadium with a win is if one, just one of you fail to do your job.Because no matter how great we are as individiduals, each play requires the participation of 11 players. And all 11 have to successfully complete their duties on each and every play or the play will fail. You all know this already. We';ve been over it 100s of times. Now just what asshole will be that player that doesnt do his job?  "  total silence, of course.  "Didn't think so. Now lets get out there and end this thing early." They had no doubt whatsoever words the great man was speaking were true. Why should they? They had followed him since the day of his arrival and for his first six years at Michigan he had won more games than any oher coach in the nation. And, or so I've been told, the faith Bo's players had in him, is being realized betweem Harbaugh and his charges. As I stated. we're a fan base of mixed emotions. What the poster, Perkis has stated is being shared by many. However, the number is greater among those who realize the full extent of the job you were entrusted with and we know it will be done. You can only make these assessments based on results. There is only one thing we ask of you and that is what you expect of yourelf and your staff, steady improvement♣ The great thing is both parties know it will be realized 

Fully aware you don't read the board, I decided I'd just step in and ask the fans to consider some of the things a head coach is faced withthat fall outside daily public consumption. Mi's program was just as bad as the fan base thought and their anxiety over failure to win in just two short years to a team that normally fields the most or second most talent of any team in the nation is asking just a bit much and although at times, it appears, otherwise, we realize the actual magnitude of your assignmentt and most are amazed at the amount of truly elite players you have been able to entice to AA already. It's an amazing thing, and the fact you have been able to accumulate same from virtually every region in the country where top notch talent is developed is equally impressive.  As difficult as last season's OSU loss was, and it was, the pain that was felt should have taken a back seat to any reasonable fan. A team able to outplay a team that talented being together only two years( as a program) sent a message with far greater positive content than any negative sought out. When we beat OSU the first time under Coach Harbaugh it will represent the fact that we are back no more than last year's loss told any fan that "they wil own us forever." To think otherwise is taking rational thought out of any analysis. And although I did not read the post leading to the one below, it definitely appears to be aimed at Harbaugh. How Harbaugh lost that game for us will always remain a mystery to me. He did not tell  the defender that had OSU's tb pinned 11 yds deep in the backfiled to come in at an angle allowing an easy dip and outside pop reflects for more on superior athletic ability than it does  poor coaching.  I actually thought if any coaching decisions should have been discussed it was the  4th down automatic, "No matter where we are on the football field." Yeah........o.k. but very stupid.