More bad press on OSU Marching Band
WSJ article on a secret song book with some very unsavory lyrics. The hits keep coming and it seems the culture has really snowballed out of control with the "Best Damn Band in the Land"
http://www.wsj.com/articles/holocaust-victims-mocked-in-ohio-state-band…
Yeah, that movie came out right before my freshman year of high school, when I attended band camp for the first time. It was weird because I love the movie, but hated the fact that I could not mention BAND or BAND CAMP or anything to do with playing an instrument to anyone who wasn't in band because they would inevitably think they were the first person to mockingly say "THIS ONE TIME AT BAND CAMP LULZ!"
Yeah that never happened at my band camp.
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Fun fact: the camp lampooned in the movie is apparently based off of Blue Lake Fine Arts Camp on the west side of the state.
the whole thing is based off west michigan. east great falls = east grand rapids, dog years = yesterdog, etc. in the second one, the moving to the beach montage shows them driving through grand haven (though the actual set was closer to saugatuck).
Yep.
Also, I can confidently say that Blue Lake is just about the worst camp on the planet.
Never been to Blue Lake, but I went to Interlochen and it was great, I guess. I didn't have anything to compare it to.
Went to both. Interlochen is incredible. Blue Lake... Not so much. A really subpar place all around, especially if you knew what Interlochen was like.
I went to blue lake for more social reasons...there is a reason I went for jazz band. We had rehearsals and sectionals in the morning and then had the rest of the day to ourselves to get in trouble. My last year I went for jazz guitar. I spent my afternoons just jamming on my guitar.
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Which, of course, I have been to.
Yep. I am a 3 time alum (1x symphonic band, 2x jazz band). I met a lot of girls there. One time I was going out with three girls at once during my second summer at Blue Lake.
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It was well after my band camp experiences, but you're correct that nobody can resist trotting out the phrase.
My trumpet was external use only, thank you all very much.
Same here. Marching band camp was all business for me. Blue lake on the other hand...
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With a band mostly full of racist, sexually frustrated dudes...I don't care to imagine what their "one time at band camp" entails.
I'd call that worse than "bad press". Like, disgusting human behavior. Ohio gonna Ohio, I guess.
Holy shit. That's really tasteless. I was ready to roll my eyes, as the OSU band thing is bad, but it's not as bad as it was made out to be (sexualized atmopshere?!?! IN COLLEGE?!?!?!). But this... wow. That's a few notches up from the "On top of the schoolhouse..." song from middle school. That's really shitty...
This is disgusting and shameful even for OSU.
"The Holocaust song, called “Goodbye Kramer,” whose lyrics haven't been previously disclosed, includes lines about Nazi soldiers “searching for people livin’ in their neighbor’s attic,” and a “small town Jew…who took the cattle train to you know where.” It was written to be sung to the tune of the 1981 Journey hit “Don’t Stop Believin’.
“Head to the furnace room, ‘Bout to meet your fiery doom,” one line of the song reads. “Oh the baking never ends, It goes on and on and on and on.”
I am just stunned. Who in the hell thinks that's OK in any context? Teenage band kids blowing off steam blah blah blah. Are are you fucking kidding me?
Pure gold.
Print out 100,000 of these for The Game and pass them out for the crowd to display when the Ohio State band takes the field.
No surprises here. Though I thought the book was uncovered when they fired Waters...
“I don’t think you are going to find many 19-year-olds who don’t joke about those things.” Auer, a 2007 Ohio State graduate now working as a band instructor in central Ohio, said he had enjoyed singing songs from the book while on the bus traveling to away football games, though he regrets that the material has become public. “It was fun for me as an individual, but we knew if the public ever caught wind of them, people are going to lose respect."
Hey WD, how many times did you make graphic holocaust jokes? I know there were people who did it, but I know my group of friends didn't make these jokes...
Typical - it's funny unless I get in trouble for it...
That person seriously needs to reevaluate who he's hanging out with because I don't know any 19/20 year old who would find that funny. This is middle school humor that people grow out of once they get the slightest bit of common sense
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Seriously. Can we get beyond the notion that because you are in your teens you get a free pass for everything?
I keep seeing posts about extremely bad behaviour, and then comments like "It's OK, we all did stupid things as a teenager".
Yes we all did stupid things as teenagers. And we do some stupid things as adults too. But there are some lines you don't cross, period.
Not everything is OK just because you are under 20.
I really hope WD is not your go-to example of a typical 19/20-year-old.
Man... I mean, I was never the most PC kid. But that crosses a line, just based off of the effort and intent. It wasn't some off-color joke. It was a patterened and blatant disregard for the suffering of other humans. Whoever wrote it needs to step in front of a bus.
WD is 20.
While it may be one thing to have parodies about another school, but to have Holocaust parodies, un-fucking believable! Were there not any Jewish band members? I am surprised this has stayed this underwraps for this long.
of something "hilarious" happening on game day in Columbus. He was watching the game at a restaurant near campus. It was all OSU fans except one Penn State fan, their opponent that day. OSU won by a huge margin, but after one of Penn State's few touchdowns, the lone Nittany Lions fan stood up and cheered. An OSU fan at his table stood up and poured an entire pitcher of beer over the young man's head. So awesome!
I know plenty of OSU fans and graduates who are fine people. But the fanbase's reputation for being a raging bunch of assholes has some basis in fact.
Because people from columbus can't read, that moron didn't read the book "Night" by Elie Wiesel, who survived that evil.
That book left me so disturbed to a point where I don't want to believe that humans are capable of those kind of attrocities.
Anyone who agrees with any of that nazi evil bullshit or thinks it was funny should be punched in the fucking throat.
and there we have it! We have a recent 19 year old saying he doesn't find it funny... Looks like OSU is wrong again.
Humans are still more than capable of that. Never again rings a bit hollow after Cambodia, the Nigerian Civil War, Rawanda, Darfur, even Bosnia.
that this former member of the OSU marching band is now a "band instructor in central Ohio," thus ensuring that there will be another generation of 19-year-olds with this delightful sense of humor who can continue to uphold the standards of OSU's band. Sheesh . . .
I must say, I would rather have a boring band who doesn't do shit like this, than... you know
Rejoice, because you already have a band that doesn't do shit like that.
Do these people not understand basic human decency? What kind of sick person thinks making fun of the holocaust or any genocide is funny. Parody songs are supposed to be funny! Nothing about the Holocaust or any part of WWII was funny. This is exactly why learning about history is important. So that people don't ignorantly do moronic acts such as this.
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I wish I the balls to put this on a business card to hand to people.
Well the band had better be skewered like those fraternity boys down in Texas. And this was a school-sanctioned organization, no less! Do they not have coaches?
and offensive jokes, even I find holocaust jokes to be in poor taste.
Also, I find it telling that one of their songs refers to giving another man a "hot karl".
Worse than a Warm Karl.
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To be fair, it must be noted that our Michigan Marching Band would for their part likely have penned several extremely offensive parodies of OSU's fight song... if it wasn't such a mediocrely forgettable tune.
There was a parody of the MSU fight song that involved doing something dirty to a duck.
QUACK
But that's just about all I know.
I always wondered why quacking was associated with MSU (mooing seemed mored appropriate) but I always assumed it was because they were an agricultural school.
“There’s no place as gay as Nebraska, except maybe Michigan U. Where the girls are all hairy, and the boys are all fairies, on your chest we will poo.”
I thought it was coolers, not chests, that they preferred for their poo?
You are right....
Sexism and homophobia: truly the marks of an intelligent student body.