More B1G award announcements

Submitted by Bambi on

All on twitter but some results:

DL of the Year - Nick Bosa

RB and Offensive Player of the Year - Saquon Barkley

Defensive Player of the Year -  Josey Jewel

Coach of the Year - Paul Chryst

Bosa winning DL of the Year is a complete joke. From Orion Sang on Twitter:

Bosa: 28 tackles, 12.5 TFL, 6 sacks

Winovich: 74 tackles, 17 TFL, 8 sacks

Gary: 62 tackles, 11 TFL, 5 sacks

Hurst: 59 tackles, 13.5 TFL, 5 sacks

https://twitter.com/orion_sang/status/936276775818145793

https://twitter.com/orion_sang/status/936277333325045760

ldevon1

November 30th, 2017 at 1:42 PM ^

Is the reason we all have opinions, but I also think Jonathon Taylor is the best back in the B1G. Don't hold a good line against him. Mike Hart had some great offensive lines also, but that doesn't diminish how good he was. The Bosa thing is a bigger joke. Who voted on this? 

DrMantisToboggan

November 30th, 2017 at 12:31 PM ^

We had 3 DL more deserving than Bosa. Hell, OSU may have had DL that were more deserving. I agree that he is supremely talented, but so are Hurst, Winovich, and Gary, and they are actual starters. SMH.

CoverZero

November 30th, 2017 at 12:32 PM ^

Bosa is completely overrated.  Mo Hurst was the DL of the year and will be a top 10 pick.

Once again Michigan is screwed by the B1G. 

They really hate Harbaugh don't they?

BlueMan80

November 30th, 2017 at 1:06 PM ^

when sport writers hand out awards.   These awards tend to be popularity contests.  They don't look any further than the names.  They are too busy to look at stats and haven't followed all these players through the season, so "I know that name and I heard he was good" carries the day.

dragonchild

November 30th, 2017 at 12:59 PM ^

It's not criminal, and not even figuratively.  It is, as Bambi says, a joke.  It's an award, and most awards are iffy.  Hurst can cry about missing out when the NFL team he signs with delivers the mattress of cash for him to sleep on.

I mean, yeah, he got robbed, but I'd rather have corrupt idiots in charge of handing out gold stars than. . . say. . . officiating B1G games.  Well, crap.

Goggles Paisano

November 30th, 2017 at 12:36 PM ^

Steve Pallazolo from PFF is on with Jason Horowitz and Kanell each week.  I could be wrong, but I think he may have said that Bosa was grading out higher than anyone in the country.  The stats are certainly in favor of our boys though.  

Did the Rutgers punter win based on "number" of punts?  

yourpaltal

November 30th, 2017 at 12:46 PM ^

I don't have the numbers at my fingertips, but most weeks PFF had been grading Mo as the best player (not just defensive lineman) in the country.  It feels like the 3 Michigan linemen may have split votes.  Regardless, anyone who paid any attention knows that Maurice Hurst was the best this year, hands down.  

HimJarbaugh

November 30th, 2017 at 12:47 PM ^

HAHA at Nick Bosa. His game log looks supremely underwhelming, especially when most of his sacks came against bad competition (Maryland, UNLV, and Indiana). Hurst and Winovich didn't disappear like he did.

Oh well, I am sure even him and OSU fans know that was a fraud.

bossmania

November 30th, 2017 at 12:55 PM ^

If anyone cares about PFF, here are their overall grades:

 

Bosa: 52.9 
Winovich: 38.9
Gary: 19.8
Hurst: 76.2 (!)

Unless I missed someone, Hurst is the highest graded player at any position. Baker Mayfield is next at 60.3

PFF isn't the bible or anything but damn...

 

In reply to by GordonG

bossmania

November 30th, 2017 at 1:39 PM ^

For context, Gary's rating puts him at 27th in the country among "edge defenders". Among 4-3 DEs he's 16th in the country.

Not super elite, but still pretty dang good for a sophomore.

G. Gulo of the Dale

November 30th, 2017 at 2:18 PM ^

I'm not an expert in this area, but aren't PFF grades out of 100, and didn't Maurice Hurst have a 96.8 grade going into the OSU game, while Winovich had a 87.6 grade, and a number of OSU's players were in the 80s?  And doesn't Baker Mayfield have a grade in the mid-90s, right around Hurst's grade?

I'm sorry if the mistake is on my end, but the chart I'm looking at doesn't show anything like the numbers you are presenting.  Overall, your claim that Hurst is the highest rated defender is correct, but the gap doesn't seem to be on the order of magnitude that is suggested above.  Just seeking clarification.

darkstar

November 30th, 2017 at 2:00 PM ^

That's just lazy voting.  Chryst wins the weakest division in CFB. Plays one ranked team (at the time).  It's not like Wisc wasn't expected to win that division going away with that squad.

Hate to say it but D'Antonino has a strong case too given last year, returning experience and off-season shenanigans.

NittanyFan

November 30th, 2017 at 5:16 PM ^

I'd argue for all of Dantonio, Brohm, Meyer, and Fitzgerald ahead of Chryst.  12-0 is nice.  But the team is very talented and they played nobody very elite and had no occasions where they really faced adversity (or had to bounce back from adversity).

Beat Ohio State, of course, and that all changes.  But that's an argument for doing all this voting after Championship weekend.

andrewgr

November 30th, 2017 at 1:07 PM ^

Bosa did not deserve the award.

However, this is due to his lack of playing time, not lack of talent or lack of production when he was in the game.  He's playing behind two first-day NFL draft picks, and DE is a position where you really want to keep your players fresh, so he only plays about half the snaps.  

This should keep him from winning the award, and I don't understand why it didn't.  But saying that he doesn't deserve it because he's not as good as Hurst or other players, or that he just gets attention because of his name, is ridiculous.  He is a great player and had a great season; it just shouldn't have netted him this award.

GordonG

November 30th, 2017 at 1:23 PM ^

he is a good player... not GREAT like Mo !

this is popularity contest and Bosa has the family name.. big diva..

we'll see who gets drafted higher and who has the more successful NFL career....

hint:  Mo !!

gjking

November 30th, 2017 at 1:43 PM ^

Anyone who voted against Hurst should be stripped of their right to vote. This is simply insane, he is the BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE COUNTRY according to PFF. This is lunacy.