his balls into the locker room?
Molk goes off on Konz and Brewster
HOW DOES DANNY HART SIT DOWN WITH BALLS THAT BIG?!
Can't buy underwear, balls are too big.
"You would probably have to sit in the back because his nuts would ride shotgun."
In other news, who is "ted" and when can we burn him at the stake?
From the comments section:
I love Molk. But he should keep those opinions to himself. It's tacky.
At this point, he is the very top dog. He has outworked everybody the past few years, and beaten them all. He can say that about Konz and Brewster, because he IS better than them. Now, as soon as he gets drafted, it's back to shutting up and letting the f***** field prove it.
He isn't going vocal because he's top dog. It's because he is legitimately being undervalued. Not tacky when he sees a problem and is wanting to call attention to it.
Unless he's Peyton Manning, I think comments like that would hurt someones draft stock.
I do think Molk is much better, he's done nothing but prove it on the field and in the combine. I don't get why NFL teams and scouts still think size matters, they've been proven wrong more so than not.
just because he won the rimington doesn't mean he's entitled to being the first center picked any more than RG3 winning the heisman entitles him to being the #1 overall pick. Brewster may very well fit another program better in terms of style, finnesse, and overall size (he is 3 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier).
Yeah, but if it were Brewster saying this would ou have a problem with it?
Yes, because it wouldn't be true.
I semi-agree but there is something to be said - especially in that profession - for absolute and unwaivering confidence.
Tom Brady once walked up to Mr. Kraft (as a 6th round draft pick) and said "I am the best move you've ever made." Well, that's about as ballsy as you can get and in that job it's often times a very good thing to have. Most of all I think Molk and Brady were just being themselves and that is all I ever ask of anybody.
Confidence, great. General assertions that you think no one is better, fine. But basically denegrating other players -- B10 players, no less -- is not great. I'm sure Carr and Hoke are slapping their foreheads right now.
After watching some of the film of Molk and Martin working out at BM I am not sure Molk could have said anything other than what he did. It's a programming that goes on to even get through those workouts. I'm not sure Molk said the other centers are shit. I just think he said if anyone were to pick them over him they would be stupid. After what that kid has done I wouldn't disagree with him.
Given all that I think Molk goes to the Pats late because his skill set is something very valuable to that team and not so much to many others, meaning the Pats know they can wait on him. He is a reach blocker and an exceptional one. Many teams don't want/need that in a center.
Oh bullshit! You think people didn't work hard at athletes performance, IMG, velocity and other such centers? I'd send a combine athlete to them in a second before Barwis. He shouldn't have said that and should have just continued on and continued to work hard and not talk bad about the other guys.
I'm sure they all worked hard, but if you haven't seen the results then you haven't been watching the combine. Mike, David and JT outperformed where they "should" have gone and made people take a look at them. Could speak to the individuals, but 3 for 3 would speak more to the training in my opinion.
David did the second most bench reps in the entire combine.
Mike was in the top 3 in every DL category.
JT ran a 4.5 second 40 AND was the fastest WR in two of the agility/speed drills. A few GMs said they wouldn't even look at him before the combine. Now he may go in the 2nd-3rd round.
After those results I would say Barwis is great at what he does and programs these guys to know they are the best at their position. That may explain (not justify) what David had to say.
JT Floyd was at the combine??
Mike was top 5 in every category compared to defensive tackles, not all defensive linemen. But point taken.
If you're talking Junior Hemmingway then you're wrong. He did not train with Barwis. He went to one of the big facilities around the country.
You're correct. Still, 2 out of 2.
Yeah, but you lose massive credibility (in the argument; not generally) with that slip-up. Hemingway was the one that had me in your court, opinion-wise. I think you can argue that MM and DM were both top-5 at their positions, easily, in CFB last year, so testing athletically in that range, while good, isn't necessarily shocking. Junior Hemingway's numbers at the combine, to me, were far more surprising.
To point out specifics in which you're Better than our counterparts ?
"just being themselves and that is all I ever ask of anybody."
When comments like this are made, I always try to think how I would feel in the exact opposite scenario -- if Molk was at OSU and Brewster at UM -- and the comments were made.
I'd probably say, "meh", and chalk it up to confidence and the right attitude for a competitor who is clearly very good.
Probably not the best things to be saying at this point even if that is what he believes. Love him to death, but he comes off as a dick.
i can't say i like the comments either. but if buy saying them he gets just one GM to listen and draft him many spots higher than his projections, that means extra millions of dollars to him.
imo, he's basically acting as his own agent.
This thread will be interesting.
Michigan player says this == AWESOME
Another team's player says this == ASS
Yeah, I'm excited for this. Hopefully it stays reasonably civil.
If Brewster would have said the same thing last year (when he got the All-America nod), the board would have crucified him.
Isn't that true about most everything though?
Hoke takes a dig at Ohio: "WOOOOOOOOOO! YEAH! MOTHERFUCKIN PARTY! HOKE'S THE MAN! HE SHITS GOLD! HOKE! HOKE! HOKE!"
Urban takes a dig at Michigan: "BURN HIM! CAST HIM INTO THE FIRES OF MOUNT DOOM!"
has Hoke taken a dig at Ohio?
I love his confidence and mentality, but wonder if GM's might worry about his personality in the locker room, especially if he's not seeing the field.
I would like someone with that much confidence and intensity on my team. His play will back up his talk. All-American, Rimington award winner, and his performance at the combine was better than both of Konz and that fat fuck from Ohio. Oh, and Molk is 3-4 inches shorter and outweighed by over 20+ pounds. I'll take Molk any day.
I agree its a concern when you hear some ocmments like this- but its about character and determination.
If its a comment made due to entitlement or animosity, or just ego thats an issue
If its a comment made because you are legitimately a top player with great effort and incredible determination- it is better.
It's really just a bad way of saying something like: "Any GM who takes one of these guys over me will regret it" which we hear a lot.
Tru- you have to be careful about how you make your comments- and how they may be heard- but I don't find an issue with the comment.
It doesn't necessarily mean you should say it. That being said, I can understand why he said it.
when Mike Hart is the coach in 2024, Molk should be his OL coach. his obnoxious statements to the media will then be turned into a coors light commercial.
First of all, are we really going to assume that Hoke is going to be gone in 12 years? He'll only be 64 then. Second, as much as I love what Mike Hart brought onto the field as a player, I don't think I'd ever want him to be HC at Michigan.
I'm curious as to why you wouldn't want Mike Hart as HC? He seems to be a pretty good leader and is well respected in the football community.
Shed some light. I don't disagree; I'm just interested why you think this way.
Well, I'm going to be completely candid and therefore probably marked as either flamebaiting or trolling. And since you did say you don't disagree, I'm interested in hearing your opionion as well.
I've never really liked how he interviews or how he comes off in interviews. From "little brother" to his "Michigan man" tiff with Harbaugh to his "I don't cheer for Michigan anymore". While I understand the mentality behind all the statements they don't come out right when he speaks. In the end, he comes off looking really arrogant or really dickish. I don't give him the benefit of "being young" since he's older than I am.
Even if he did learn to think before speaking, he always came off as a "hey look at me"/"I'm awesome" person and not as much of a "the team" person. I think that he could potentially divide the fan base if he ever became HC based on just his personality.And if he doesn't learn to think before he speaks, his personality + a lot of the words out of his mouth would piss a lot of people off.
It probably takes awhile to perfect the guarded-charming gibberish coach speak that Hoke has (yes, I did use the term perfect) or the amusing-condescending closed off coach speak that Carr had. But there was always a foundation of heart and humility in both. A "clear eyes, full hearts" quality if you will.
But this discussion does lead to an interesting question of, where does Michigan turn when Hoke leaves? He was probably one of the younger people from the Bo-Mo-Lloyd tree with additional roots to Woody. Dude has a history that's going to be hard pressed to find in the future. Unless Michigan loosens up in the future, we're in for a crazy ride in 15 years or so.
He's quietly paying his dues and working his way up. Hart may have to redshirt behind him.
Does anyone know what d-lineman wanted out of a game so they didn't have to play against Molk? If thats true, its kinda awesome, but I don't remember a specific incidence or report about this.
I'm fine with him thinking that. I think he's proven that he's better than him, but he's a guy who doesn't need to talk-up how great he is. Just let your on-field performance do the talking for you and if those guys get drafted ahead of you, show those teams they were wrong.
I can understand David Molk being upset that inferior competitors may be drafted several rounds above him. His starting salary is directly related to his draft position. He knows that his initial deal may be the only pro football money he ever sees, because of the high probability of injury. Its not a very fair system and he earned the right to be the first center drafted this year, based upon all the national recognition he received.
I'm sorry, but you don't "earn the right" to be drafted first at your position based on awards. NFL teams will draft who they think will be the best pros. It's no more unfair than you and me not being drafted.
Molk just wants everybody to know that he's top shelf, while these other centers are only top ramen.
This is very unlike him. He's usually pretty bullish in interviews but always tactful about the things he says about other teams and players.
I think many on this thread are neglecting to consider that this is likely a calculated move by Molk. Yes, he comes off as a dick, but don't you want your center to kind of be a dick to everyone not on his team? Haven't we spent the past two weeks a little tight in the pants because of all the OL we're getting that have a "mean streak?" If the NFL teams do their homework, which they always do, they'll find out that Molk is the ultimate team guy, and this comment just proves him to be the head bashing badass he is. When Molk speaks, people listen, and I think coaches and GMs will listen to these comments as well and take them to heart, even if only subconsciously. Molk knows how to get where he wants to go as an underrated prospect. He's been doing it his whole career. I doubt he suddenly forgot how to handle the media or how to achieve his goals.
Wonder if he is making these statements per the advice of his agent. It doesn't seem like him, but it seems like a good way to get teams to take a second or closer look at you... make them wonder if that young man can back up his talk. While it's cocky, I don't think it reaches any kind of prima dona level that suggests he won't be a team player.
unquestionably that he is not a prima dona. He works his ass off. Unfortunately, despite eye-popping statistics and a Rimmington, he's somehow still regarded as less of a prospect than others in his own conference. A good agent SHOULD tell him to talk himself up without fear. Make sure that he directly challenges pre-concieved notions about him.
I don't see how any team would be more inclined to draft a guy just because he claims to be better than his peers. It's a given that most top players feel accordingly. NFL team, having heard Molk's quotes, aren't gonna say, "Oh, well, now that he's told told us he's superior, let's draft him." They already know what kind of guy/player he is. Molk's claims add nothing to the equation. Nothing good, anyway.
Some things you say, some things you keep to yourself and prove. This would go into the latter category.
Like many of you, I think these thoughts would be best kept to himself. It's kind of strange that he used to hate the media and avoid it at all costs, but now that he's preparing for the draft, he seems to be doing frequent interviews with questionable content. Maybe he should go back to hating the media and keeping to himself.
Could be more a function of the coaching staff or the fact that he was on the team representing the school keeping him(self) in check. Now that he's off to the draft, he can let loose. Just a possibility.
back it up, but I if i was Mr.Molk i'd let my actions do the talking.
most recently, rupturing a tendon in his foot, playing on it anyway because his team desperately needed him, had surgery and still managed to be in top shape for the combine. If I'm a GM, that's more important to me than any inflammatory remarks in an interview. I would make a concerted effort to get him on my team. That's the attitude you want in an offensive lineman. They're the grunts. The sun doesn't shine on them too often. They need to have different external motivators than the skill position players.
Except they don't know he's in top shape because he didn't run at the combine.
Worry about his personality? You mean the guy who stuck by his school and teammates during a massive shitstorm and is as responsible as anyone for Michigan's resurgence? You want him to say that those players are better than him? He won the Rimington Trophy fergodsakes.
A scrappy guy like Molk has to show confidence. You don't get anywhere by conceding inferiority to your competition.
Love this guy.
Feel like the media might have twisted this a bit. I don't know how the other players' names came up, but it sure sounds like he was asked leading questions to a certain extent. Was this the smartest thing Molk has done? No. Is this a huge deal and will it kill his draft stock? No.
I think this has been taken wrongly by the media, but I think it does show his mentality. Molk is a guy who has always been doubted because of his size. What has he done? He won the Rimington and was an All-American. Now for the NFL Draft, what's happening? He's getting overlooked again because of his size. Yeah, it might be a bit of a Napoleon complex, but that's what's gotten him to where he is today. He's going to play with that chip on his shoulder. He's going to work harder. He's going to be a successful pro.
They're direct quotes. It's not the media's fault.
I didn't question the quotes. I was questioning the way the media has spun the comments and the way it's being viewed by a lot of people here.
I think it was after he became a free agent he declared himself to be the best running back in the NFL.
I assume this rant wasn't his idea based on his history with the media. Whoever advised these statements didn't help him.
also wonder whether it comes across as less than badass when you compare yourself favorably to two in-conference rivals, not to the top dogs. He's not projected for the first round anyway, right?
especially if unprovoked but I don't have a problem with ol' Molk. I think he's proven that he's better than the other centers through his work on the field, in the combine. McShay is a goober. He jumps on the bandwagon and rarely do I find him making intelligent/thorough analysis, thinking outside of the box. He is re-hashing what other "experts" think/feel. I think Molk will do fine in the NFL as a center and prove everyone wrong, as he has for most of his career.
No problem with him thinkings he's the best. But I have a problem with him calling out other players. Just talk about youself without mentioning others. It can only hurt his draft stock IMO.
Molk would have been better off without specifically mentioning other players. If he said something like, "I believe I am the best center in this year's draft. The Rimington speaks for itself," then it would be fine. Specifically calling out other players in this way is uncalled for. I love Molk, but this makes him look bad.
If anything, at least he's showing them the anti-finesse, which is great since finesse was a criticism. But it is strange that one of the few players that knew EXACTLY what to say to the media when he was in school is suddenly coming off overly arrogant. Seems like a very conscious decision to come off this way.
He definitely hit a nerve with Brewster according to his twitter. "And Molk, keep my name out of your mouth"
Molk will be sorely missed next year IMO
oh please... this is childsplay compared to the shit talk that we hear about in the NFL every week. This isn't some guy coming off the street with nothing to back up his talk with. He's advocating himself, pushing for a top tier job in the NFL. Good for him. We've always known he is a cock... as long as he continues to put in the work to maintain his high level of play, I see no problem with this.
...when The Fab Five walked into Michigan like they owned the Big Ten, and I like that Molk believes he is the best player available at his position. It shows unwavering confidence and a swagger that cannot be taught. And of course if Brewster or Konz said the same things I would probably not like it; that's the beauty of sports.
As for NFL teams' brass questioning his leadership or mental makeup due to these comments, I don't think that's going to happen. Over the past five years, David Molk has proven his mental toughness and his leadership abilities time and time again. I don't know that he will be a great pro and I have no idea in which round he will be drafted, but I am confident that whoever takes him will get a confident, tough, hard-nosed, well-rounded, hard working young man.
It's not about endearing yourself to all 32 GMs.
It's about impressing 1 GM enough to take a shot on you earlier.
Some may be turned off by this, but someone may be intrigued and further explore what sort of bad ass he is.
Context is everything.
In a vacuum these are dickish comments, banging up other kids, but there’s legit context justifying his position. The reality is Molk is being undervalued. He’s worked his ass off his entire career. He’s won the Rimington. He’s had a great combine, doing more than three times as many reps of bench as the purported “#1 guy.” Yes, he’s received praise and awards, but I’d hazard to guess most college players would pass up all the awards short of a Heisman in exchange for moving up four or five rungs up the NFL pay and respect scale. Molk has a valid point, and it makes perfect sense for him to voice his point at this critical time, to give NFL teams something to think about. On the other hand, the kid’s 23 years old, and a jock, so you cannot expect that him to be the modicum of diplomacy at this juncture in his life in terms of getting his point across.
If the shoe were on the other foot, and Brewster were mouthing off about Molk, in a vacuum I’d think he’s a dick, but I’d understand if he’d just won the Rimington and had a draft value lower than Molk’s.
Players also ought to understand that college is different than the pros, though. Just because you're the best college center doesn't mean you'll be a great pro center. Jason White was a great college QB at Oklahoma, but he didn't do anything in the NFL and wasn't highly regarded by scouts. Ron Dayne was a great college RB. Things don't necessarily translate from one level to the next, so it's understandable that NFL general managers might have a different view than Rimington Award voters.
If Molk needs to carry a chip on his shoulder to propel himself forward, more power to him. But that doesn't necessarily mean that he should vocalize those opinions.
I think GMs want angry muthas on their lines. That is all.
Self-confidence is great, and Molk has certainly earned the right to express confidence in himself. But any player who demeans others in order to express self-confidence seems like an insecure diva. Molk should spend more time analyzing the abilities of NFL defensive tackles than the skills of guys who he'll never line up against.
The best part of that article is actually the revelation that our former punter nearly out benched a 6'5",314 pound center from Wisconsin. Insane. Can't argue with Barwis's results in the weight room.
He is selling himself to the NFL which is good!
and he talks like him. He'll probably only hang around the league for over a decade too.
Dear Mr. Molk. I truly appreciate the fire that made you a team leader. Helping keep the team together through the transition might prove to be a pivotal moment in Michigan History. We appreciate you going back in to play the Sugar Bowl on one foot. We appreciate that it is your competitive nature that allowed you success at the Combine. Can you turn it off when it doesn't suit us? Thank you, signed, a few fans.
I tottaly agree! Molk has been nothing but a class act and a leader for his entire time at Michigan. I see nothing in these comments that make me worried about his character. I can't believe some of the comments on this board acting like he should just shut his mouth and meekly allow others to shape his image becouse telling the truth might be rude or insensitive.
He probably shouldn't have said it in the way he said it... but MAN am I glad he did. I mean, was there ever a more Molkian interview than this one?
be burned at the stake. Your 25,000 + points are in jeopardy.
I might have expressed it differently, but he is the one who has to back it up. I'm not going to ask him to change now.
Good for Molk. F Ohio
really gonna miss molk
But respect your opponent.
I actually don't think Molk has any respect for his opponents. People always talk about OLineman with 'Mean Streaks' very few actually hurt belittle thier opponent. You can see that Molk gets enjoyment out of hurting guys so bad that they quit. I think he sees Konz and Brewster as his opponents right now.
It's a little twisted, and while I wouldn't want a guy like this to date my daughter, I'd be more than happy to have him play C on my football team.
It just wasn't cool, or smart. It's like negative recruiting. If you have to talk about the other guy then there must not be enough good things to say about yourself, or there must be something good you have to tear down about the other guy. Molk is smarter than that. Doesn't change who he is. But a misstep nonetheless.
Good for Molk.
Teams interviewing him may very well have told him what their order is on centers, and asked him to defend himself versus them. He was probably coached to be extremely self confident by his agent.
Also, you don't think for a moment that Barwis hasn't been in his ear during workouts. "You are the best. Konz and Brewster? You've been beating their asses for years. Go prove it."
Since this behavior is unlike Molk, I'll bet he's being pushed by his agent.
hijacked this thread? Certainly Molk has earned the right on his own to be outspoken. Some of you that have never played a down of football think you can put people in their place that have proven themselves on the largest stage in college football. Keep your two cents in your change purse.
Pull your head out of your ass, look at my previous posts and consider how your post might look if you substituted any number of other terms for greyhair. If your imagination is limited, come back, I'm not very pc, I'll help you out.
Oh, and stay off my damned lawn!
If you haven't played football, you shouldn't voice your opinion!
Also, if you haven't been a politician, you shouldn't discuss politics. And if you haven't been an actor, you shouldn't talk about movies.
These are great ideas.
I loved it.
Also, I wish there was video of the players meeting after the RichRod firing presser. That would be the greatest motivational video since "The Team, The Team, The Team."
David Molk shits gold, sometimes out of his mouth.
is that if Brewster was saying this stuff aboult Molk, the entire board would be calling him an ass and telling him to keep his mouth shut.
Those other guys have tangibles they could point to as reasons why they should be drafted higher than Molk, but if they started pointing that out, and talking about how the Rimington doesn't mean shit, we'd all be like "WHATEVA! WHATEVA!! You're just jealous!! (I do what I want!)"
We're biased, fine, given; but a little intellectual honesty wouldn't hurt us.
Molk only speaks the truth...
I'm not sure what I think about this. I'm a big Molk fan, but this is a little out of character. I don't think he needs to say things like this. On the other hand, he is very confident.
Molk is a different bird. I support him.
I hope he goes high in the draft and gets a nice payday.
Well kyle here's the deal I'm the best there is, plain and simple I mean I wake up in the morning and I piss excelence. Nobody can hang with my stuff. I'm just a big hairy american winning machine. If you aren't first you're last.
I don't know any NFL execs, but this is a smidge beyond brash and into untactful/ungracious territory, particularly in using specific names.