A modest proposal

For all of us, sure, fine, whatevs.

But if you don't care what Brian thinks... what are you doing on his site?  What on earth makes you think you have the right to tell him what he can and cannot say HERE?

So stop talking about it already!!!

NO.  I think we need moar reflection on RR and the lack of support from former players dammit.

Or we could start passing recipes.  One of the other.

you are on an internet site devoted to a single university's sports teams

lets leave constructive out of this

For some of the people on here it's like a breakup they can't get over even though they know the relationship sucked.

rr is old news and is long gone. Wanna know who is here?...

"Productive" during the off-season? Good luck.

First off, I'm as annoyed with this constant RR vs. Hoke debate as most people are, but you should be addressing this to Braylon Edwards, not Brian or anyone else on the board.  You really expect MGoBoard (which discusses anything of the remotest relation to Michigan athletics) to ignore Braylon's comments?

I agree, I'm an angry gorilla and that makes me angry!!!

Can we talk about how much better Nike was?

/s

Like to see a first-class Mexican restaurant make its way to Main Street, in Ann Arbor.

I basically agree.

However, I do feel that RR remains a part of the Michigan program and will forever.

It is painfully obvious that some will continue to wistfully dwell on the promise they saw during the RR era and truth be know, that's okay.

The focus does need to shift to the current coaching staff and the future of the program. That transition has begun, but there isn't an on / off switch that can flipped. Grieiving is a process that must be allowed to run its course.

A good season this fall would help. A great season would be even more helpful in helping people move on. But RR should not be forgotten, imo.

How about no more posts talking about how people should stop talking about RR?  What do you think about that?

Honestly, I see policing negative comments towards RR as a mechanism for closure and healing.  Seriously, you have a group of people here that were passionate, informed and united in their defense of RR as the head coach.  These are people with intelligence and confidence.  Their enemy in this whole thing is fans, media and alumni that "didn't give RR a chance".  In other words, people that weren't as informed as them but were bringing down their cause and didn't think RR would succeed from day one.  In the end, it just so happened that in the face of the knowledge and facts at their disposal, they ended up being wrong.  RR was ultimately not successful.  He ultimately didn't win enough games to keep his job.  I don't think there is anything wrong with them continuing to hold onto something of their cause if it makes them feel a little better about how things went down, and if it is policing people taking shots at RR post-firing so be it.  As time goes on, especially into next season there will be less and less of these types of posts.

The title of this thread should have been "A Modest Proposal."

RR got fired?! All this time I thought he just put on some winter weight and his hair plugs finally took off. My mind is officially blown.

FU and the horse you rode in on...  Next thing you will be telling me how I should feel about God

I don't know anyone by that name with the Michigan Football Program.   Was he or she  BB (before Bo) or AB (after Bo)?

Really?  I can't focus on Mike Hart, Tim Biakabatuka, Desmond Howard, and Tom Brady?  Let's be honest here... how does one NOT focus on Tom Brady?

I'm adding you to my list of people to neg the shit out of if/when negging returns.

But it seems to me that if you don't like a particular thread... Don't read it.

are divided over what happened with Rich they will be divided over Hoke. And when wrongs (alleged or real) are done, sweeping them under the rug is usually not the first (2nd or 3rd) order of business in the public sphere. I'm weary of some of the debate, too, but that doesn't mean that establishing the facts isn't legitimate, or that people with something to say on the matter shouldn't put forth their ideas. It's a typical herd thing here to try to shout people down but--better idea--just read posts on subjects that interest you. If you're sick of it, ignore it. This is, as I see it, a forum for precisely such back and forth, and to the degree that the place has been taken over by homers who just want to run the M flag up the pole and have us all salute--well--the place is the poorer for it. 

And--honestly--you don't think the current Braylon boneheadedness wants calling out? I'm all for getting behind Hoke (as time goes on) but some of the hypocrisy has been breathtaking. When it comes time to stop calling out the noodles, nitwits, and numbskulls--whatever uni they wear--I am out of here, too. 

Forgiveness. It will take time for the wounds inflicted by both sides to heal and I think we've just got to grit our teeth and deal with it until then.

I know I still have a hard time forgiving RR for running Steven Threet in a zone read offense in front of over 100,000 fans at the winningest football program in history. Someday maybe I'll be able to forgive and forget about it, I'd say the day we beat MSU, tOSU & contend for big ten titles annually will be that day. Until then I just stew & wait for brighter days ahead.

Now, if coach Hoke sends Denard & Vincent Smith out to run a straight up power I regardless of their chances of having success. I'll feel pretty much the same way as I did when RR jammed it up the collective asses of millions of Michigan fans. Insulted & betrayed. Perhaps even moreso by Hoke because he has specifically stated and been instructed to use the players he has to the teams best potential. RR at least had the plausible deniability like costanza "You mean I want supposed to do that?" "I did not see that in the employee handbook".

Let's face it.  The decision for Rich Rod to become the head coach here was not a good one for either party - IN RETROSPECT.  Obviously, Bill Martin (and whoever else was involved in the decision) had imperfect information about who would be the best choice for coach.  OK, they made a poor decision.  And Rodriguez probably should have done his due diligence before deciding to take the job.  But, I don't doubt anyone's motive for wanting to do the best for Michigan. It just didn't work out.  So, the only choice now is to move on and make things better. 

This thread would have read something more along the lines of:

It is a melancholy object to those who walk through this great town or travel in the country, when they see the streets, the winged helmets, and The Big House, crowded with beggars of the female sex, followed by three, four, or six Pahokeeans, all in dreads and importuning every passenger for a slot position. These linebackers, instead of being able to work for their honest positions, are forced to employ all their time in strolling to beg for playing time for their helpless  backups: who as they grow up either turn into injuried safeties for want of health, or leave their dear native team to fight for the community college, or sell themselves to the razorbacks.

..

I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope will not be liable to the least objection.

I have been assured by a very knowing Ohioan of my acquaintance in Columbus, that a young healthy child well paid is after a year old still eligible, whether paid in tattoos, cash, given cars; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve a chance at another Big Ten championship..

A very worthy person, a true lover of his country, and whose virtues I highly esteem, was lately pleased in discoursing on this matter to offer a refinement upon his scheme. He said that many gentlemen of this kingdom, having of late destroyed their eligibility, he conceived that the want of victories might be well supplied by the bodies of young lads supplied with lassies not exceeding fourteen years of age nor under twelve; so great a number of both sexes that even Auburn would tell storied about it. But with due deference to so excellent a friend and so deserving a patriot, I cannot be altogether in his sentiments; for as to the females, my Ohioan acquaintance assured me, from frequent experience, that their flesh was generally tough and lean.

I am disappointed only in that someone with far superior literary skills did not make a better attempt at this than I...

I was hoping this thread was going to be about how the Irish should eat their children.

And when I walk into an ice cream shop, knowing that I hate pistachio ice cream, I don't consume it.  This seems reasonable and correct to me.

Some readers of this blog (e.g., the OP) walk into an ice cream shop, consume something they hate, and then bitch about it to anyone who'll listen.

For fuck's sake, if you don't want to read about RichRod, what Braylon said about RR, or what 481 mgoblog comments (and counting) have to say about what Brian had to say about what Braylon had to say about RR...

...THEN FOR CHRIST'S SAKE,  FEEL FREE NOT TO READ THOSE POSTS. 

Alternative post flavors include hockey recruiting, TomVH updates, and OT posts on the reading habits of one Kemba Walker.   For that matter, other flavors include BWS and The Wolverine Blog. 

Other variations of this theme include:  people who post on the Washington Post or NYT boards to announce they think the news posted on those sites is hopelessly biased towards a liberal point of view (feel free to replace WaPo/NYT with "Fox News" and liberal with "conservative").

It's April 19.  September 3 is really, really far.  I'm perfectly happy reading posts about the old regime (you know, the one that doesn't coach for Michigan) because it's interesting to me, and frankly, there isn't much else to discuss that's nearly as passionate.  If a RR-flavored post tastes bad to you, stop reading as soon as you realize it's a RR-flavored post.

/incredulous rant

/thinking people should write their own f'n 100% richrod free blogs if they feel there is a market niche for it

EDIT:  I was also fooled into clicking on this in the hope it would be about eating children. 

Is that deep down in places we don't talk about at parties, we need argument on this wall, we want argument on this wall...
Every one of us here is some degree of addicted to controversy, and that's why it hasn't stopped. Still it gets annoying when past your degree.