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January 18th, 2013 at 2:47 PM | Te'o apparently not a sociopathic liar, just dumb (Score:1)
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Pasted into the OP of the open thread (and pasted BILG's OP into a comment in the thread), gave an explanation there.

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January 19th, 2013 at 9:10 PM | Derrick Green post #139/Derrick Green post #140 (Score:1)
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139: Answered
140: No need to make a post asking for another post to get taken down, even though 50% of the board got a laugh out of it.

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January 21st, 2013 at 8:20 PM | AP/Coaches Top 25 Polls (Score:1)
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Thread discussing it below. Added Coaches Poll to the title (although it was already discussed within the other thread).

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January 22nd, 2013 at 4:36 PM | Kate Upton update. (Score:1)
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Thread was misleading.  Kate doesn't do any washing of cars in the video, let alone wear a wet t-shirt or get all soapy.  OP, do you work for Mercedes?  If not, Y U no post more KUBEWBS in a thread like this???  /s (in case it wasn't clear)

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January 23rd, 2013 at 11:38 AM | Way OT: to OT moderators please squash (Score:1)
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I think the OP got his answers, or at least a little help.  These kinds of topics are clearly out of bounds but during the offseason we generally try to leave the threads up for at least a little bit so that members can get some assistance.  Its the MGoExperience!

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January 23rd, 2013 at 11:38 AM | Way OT: to OT moderators please squash (Score:1)
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I think the OP got his answers, or at least a little help.  These kinds of topics are clearly out of bounds but during the offseason we generally try to leave the threads up for at least a little bit so that members can get some assistance.  Its the MGoExperience!

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January 25th, 2013 at 12:02 PM | Got a few here... (Score:1)
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Yahoo Article on Michigan and Trey Burke

Posted yesterday; once again the search function will not bite you. Be sure to use it.

He would have looked a lot better wearing Maize and Blue

Not so much the article posted as the OP contents and the ton of snarky comments. I don't know if an Aaron Craft fluff piece would make a great discussion topic or not, but that wasn't the best way to try.

Michigan @ Illinois Prediction Thread :/

OP got what he wanted (in the future, just leave a comment here). New rule: Any poster making a prediction thread more than twelve hours before tipoff will lose their points until the following tipoff. No exceptions will be made for the potentially hilarious violation of posting before the last game of the season.

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January 25th, 2013 at 12:07 PM | spammers gotta spam (Score:4 Normal)
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http://mgoblog.com/users/christian1234

Not even good-quality spam; no attempt to even pretend to be on topic. Better bots please!

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January 25th, 2013 at 12:10 PM | I was pretty disappointed... (Score:1)
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that a spammer lasted five posts and 4+ hours before seeing that spammers have taken to the front page, and left the board alone.

Thanks for the heads up.

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January 26th, 2013 at 12:41 PM | Interesting fact about both starting AFC championship QBs... (Score:1)
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Double post.

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January 26th, 2013 at 1:26 PM | Deleted a couple Green (Score:1)
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Deleted a couple Green open/announcing threads. Don't have the copy/paste of the titles, sorry.

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January 26th, 2013 at 1:32 PM | Took down another one. (Score:1)
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The NEW and IMPROVED Derrick Green Announcement Thread

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January 26th, 2013 at 3:47 PM | Hello: Derrick Green? (Score:1)
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Story taken down on Scout. We're going to wait until Green (or a family member or something) announces to put headlines on the board. He deserves his moment, which will most likely be one of the biggest decisions he's made.

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January 26th, 2013 at 8:49 PM | You guys have to do something (Score:5 Normal)
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You guys have to do something about TheGhostofYost. How he hasn't been banned or sent to Bolivia is beyond me. 

He is presently trolling and negbombing the UFC thread. I hate to be "that guy," but he has been consistently one of the worst posters on the board, and you won't see a single person sorry to see him go.

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January 26th, 2013 at 9:02 PM | Please explain what I have (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Please explain what I have done that deserves a ban. 

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January 26th, 2013 at 9:08 PM | The consistent trolling of (Score:5 Normal)
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The consistent trolling of other users would be the primary reason.

The never ending stream of negativity with regard to indiviudal players, teams, and coaches.

The simple fact that MGoBoard would legitimately be a better place without your posts constantly derailing discussion, and turning everything into a side show about TheGhostofYost. 

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January 26th, 2013 at 9:12 PM | Stop it. Both of you. (Score:4 Normal)
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Stop it. Both of you.

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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January 26th, 2013 at 9:15 PM | Gladly.  That was enough (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Gladly.  That was enough drama for the whole year.

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January 27th, 2013 at 1:36 AM | Playing the fence doesn't (Score:5 Normal)
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Playing the fence doesn't mean you're being level headed. You're just creating a false equivalency.

Seriously, look at what's going on in the Michigan Hockey thread, but I guess it's "both" of us.

If you want to penalize me for continuing to speak up on this, that's fine. I'm more than willing to stick my neck out on this one.

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January 27th, 2013 at 10:03 PM | My goal isn't to pick (Score:2 Normal)
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My goal isn't to pick winners, it's to preserve some level of calm on the board. I'm not around much anymore, so I'm not qualified to judge anyone's claims. I just happened to check in to bask in the post-Green happiness and tried to squelch a fight.

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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January 27th, 2013 at 2:52 AM | this thread needs some moderation (Score:2)
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http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/m-hockey-wmu-saturday-open-thread

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January 27th, 2013 at 3:20 AM | Okay. (Score:1)
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I had typed up a response to TheLastHoke regarding his complaint, only to put it off to the side to think it over some more. This here makes things somewhat easier, and I'll say my piece about TheGhostOfYost's commenting tonight.

First, TheLastHoke, I agree that TheGhostOfYost's actions on the UFC thread were out of line. I don't like posters commenting on a thread about a topic they don't like with no intention of saying anything but they don't like it. Had I been online at the time, I would have posted something to that effect about five seconds after I saw the first comment about MMA. I wasn't, and things escalated. During the course of that escalation, there were comments to TheGhostOfYost that were a little much in terms of "egging on" and getting at least a little personal. My interpretation of ZoneLeft's comment wasn't that he was equating two posters actions as much as saying that neither were ideal. Either way, that whole situation is over and I think ZoneLeft did a good job ending it quickly after you brought it to his attention. The end of the UFC thread was free of criticism of the sport, and it looked like it ended with some good conversation.

MH20, I don't know what moderation you would like here. TheGhostOfYost posted a logically consistent view on the hockey program after watching the game the open thread was intended for. Before the last post or two (where I am leaving a comment), you have an unpopular opinion being received as unpopular. If anything, calling a poster a troll/other names for saying anything negative about Red is something we should be more concerned about than hearing that there are Michigan hockey fans who feel it's time for him to go.

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January 27th, 2013 at 3:28 AM | Sorry, I should have been more specific (Score:3 Normal)
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I just wanted to point out that the thread was quickly devolving into nonsense. 

Regarding TGOY, I think it's less about content and more about presentation sometimes.

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January 27th, 2013 at 3:33 AM | Got it. (Score:1)
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I guess I'm projecting things between the time and the other stuff getting said tonight; my bad.

Thanks for looking out, in any case.

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January 27th, 2013 at 4:46 AM | Thanks MH20 (Score:5 Normal)
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Literally everyone involved in that thread besides TGOY explained it wasn't the opinion being downvoted, he refused to seriously respond to any discussion of the matter, then continued to complain about his opinion being trampled because he 'dared' say something unpopular. As if we all haven't seen firsthand some rather unpopular opinions of coaches turn out to hold water. Actually, he probably didn't, considering his join date.

I let the WCC comment get under my skin, like too many other petty things around here lately. Sorry for the trouble, Justin, but I'm thinking I should just pull a chitownblue, without the 2. 

The world looks better through maize mirror tint. 

Still waiting on backup.

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January 27th, 2013 at 9:43 AM | That is part of the problem I (Score:3 Normal)
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That is part of the problem I brought up when I said he derails discussion and turns everything into "TheGhostof Yost show."

He doesn't actually want to engage in discussion, and that is where the trolling part comes in. Any time you see him post, it's the exact same pattern over and over again, leading to the exact same conclusion, regardless of who the other parties involved in the discussion are. You can ask M-Wolverine about it. I know he's had several run ins with TGOY.

His method of trolling is far more incidious, and even worse than those who simply outright hurl racial epithets, or who directly insult players and/or coaches. People by and large are easily able to spot those trolls and ignore them. 

I understand simply ignoring him, but these types of posters feed off of each other a mulitply. You can see it in the sorts of post loss meltdown threads that pop up. I've just been seeing this type of behavior a lot more recently, and I know others have as well. Hell, it's part of the reason BiSB stepped down.

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January 27th, 2013 at 3:43 PM | I've reread your posts a few times... (Score:1)
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and will keep your thoughts in mind for the future. For now, I stand by my assessment from last night, and I think a lot of the friction can be explained by difference of opinion (discounting the UFC thread, as I said above).

I do try to keep my opinion of users fluid and based on their posts, so in that sense my opinion of him, you, M-Wolverine, LSAClassOf2000, or anyone else changes as time goes on. If anyone is starting to cross the line to where I think they're trolling, I'll handle it at that point.

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January 27th, 2013 at 4:26 PM | Well, I'm screwed. (Score:1 Normal)
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Opinions of me probably change daily.

There is a particularly kind of trolling; that's trolling of the one track mind. I think there's an argument that could be made that for some reason Red doesn't get an criticism for the program's (minor) decline, where we still talk about "two eras" of Lloyd's coaching, so maybe he is a little Teflon. I could see a discussion of that, though with heavy negging. But you'd have to being something more than "Unacceptable at Michigan!!", an attitude that I thought was pretty much laughed off the blog at this point. Going in to debate the merits of UFC in a UFC thread is as bad as saying you need to do a testicle check if you have heard of ice dancers. I was a little surprised to see a UFC thread on here; but it got like a hundred posts; someone was interested, so who cares if I don't care?

There's a point and a way to say completely permissible things, but if that's all you say, you're just trolling the boards to hear yourself think. It's the BRCE syndrome. Don't go over the line, but if EVERY post is negative ranting, you're not bringing anything to the community but pissing people off. That's not an alternative viewpoint "keeping it real"; that's just being an asshole.

Has any one poster hit that point? I don't know. Won't say it's not for me to say because I was glad to point out BRCE's many identities. But that doesnt take much with me. Someone like 'Clever' being fed up, it is something worth monitoring.

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January 27th, 2013 at 3:54 PM | That's certainly your prerogative... (Score:1)
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but you would be missed if you did, even if there were a couple things that you shouldn't have said/shouldn't have been said about you last night.

Just as a programming note, I'm all for keeping things transparent, but we also need to keep this sticky somewhat clean. This line of posts will be deleted after a few days to try and keep the clutter down, so don't be alarmed when that happens.

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January 27th, 2013 at 9:26 AM | The thing about the UFC (Score:4 Normal)
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The thing about the UFC thread is that it wasn't so much a self contained incident as it was the culmination of a number of incidents. 

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January 27th, 2013 at 4:01 PM | 3 posts, and a karma of -2 (Score:3 Normal)
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Trolls be trollin'.

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January 27th, 2013 at 4:12 PM | Mercy caving. (Score:1)
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Forgot to do it yesterday, thanks for the heads up.

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January 28th, 2013 at 3:04 PM | AB - After Beilein (Score:1)
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The people have spoken. Personally, I didn't get what the big problem with the OP was. I know there were some grammar issues and that "hire Brad Stevens" isn't exactly an original idea, but it was definitely something I had thought about last night while watching BTN Journey with Bacari Alexander. At this point, though, the thread was devolving into nothing but criticism and jokes, so it comes down.

Maybe the better thread for today would be something along the lines of "Where in the World is Bacari Alexander, 2014 Edition".

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January 28th, 2013 at 8:34 PM | The crying thing (which I trust is informative enough) (Score:1)
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Moved the OP into one of the other Hoke crying threads where it fits better.

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January 28th, 2013 at 8:37 PM | Good grab. What made it (Score:4 Normal)
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Good grab. What made it particularly bad is it directly followed the Poggi update, so from a quick glance at the board it looked like there was Poggi news after Bama, then a thread explicitly for crying about that.

I was about to pull this but I ran to the Poggi thread first to find out if I should be in the crying thread.

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January 29th, 2013 at 1:10 AM | Obama on college football (Score:5 Normal)
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There's a new post that discusses the relevant part of the president's comments without getting into the politics.

Rule of thumb to use when politics touches on the topic of description: if you can tell how the OP voted in the last election simply by reading his post, it's politics.

Also now that it's unpublished it means anyone with mod priveleges can still post in there. Wheeeeeeee fun mod-only politics time wheeeeeeeeeeee

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January 29th, 2013 at 1:32 AM | seth (Score:1 Normal)
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Referencing Obama in a debate about football safety is not politics and should not warrant deletion. But deleting a thread where a poster might hint at political bias, as you suggested, could be considered politically motivated moderation. Let's have only the highest standards here.

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January 29th, 2013 at 11:11 AM | So... (Score:5 Normal)
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I think the mods do have a political bias, in that they enforce the ONE FRICKING RULE around here, which is "no politics."

BE LESS POLITICAL BY ALLOWING MORE POLITICS!!!

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January 29th, 2013 at 1:26 PM | Speak for your former self.  (Score:2 Normal)
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Speak for your former self.  I have no bias - I let everything through in order to haze/initiate the noob moderator (JGB).  Unfortunately, he's doing a much better job than I'm doing and putting in more hours than me.  I think that makes me expendable.  Dammit!

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February 7th, 2013 at 12:40 PM | I don't think there's a (Score:4 Normal)
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I don't think there's a person alive who doesn't have some sort of political bias, and I'm certainly no exception, and I apologize if that ever influences the way you read the site. I certainly welcome any criticism in that direction (people shouldn't downvote you for that).

That said, I stand by my moderation here.

For one the author made a political statement in the O.P. with his rhetorical question. The post wasn't about the president doing anything but weighing in on a topic I imagine he hasn't given a ton of thought to. Like, Teddy Roosevelt saying "I'm banning this game unless you stop the people dying from it" is on topic, but "Hey guys can you believe Teddy Roosevelt is so uninformed that he said...?" is politics. The difference is the phrasing invited the thread to become a political flame war. And there was another topic posted 20 minutes later that was on the same topic but approached it from a "let's debate head trauma in football" standpoint instead of "let's talk about how much of an asshole this political figure is for saying this about head trauma" standpoint.

Two, the author has history. This O.P. has been moderated many times previously for testing the political line, and his tendency to beat a particular topic with polticial overtones into equine molecules. The extent of that moderation has gone so far previously that I even created a new blog for him so people like me who cared about the stuff he was saying could read it without pissing off all the readers here who were rubbed the wrong way by it. He gets a tenth of the leeway another poster might get.

What I said here was meant as guidance, since our moderating system is kind of precedent-based. I would prefer a broader range of things we can talk about civilly. The other option is to say "anything that anyone thinks is political is political." I'd rather have it stay kind of ambiguous and go by feel. 

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January 29th, 2013 at 3:37 PM | OT: Treadwell's commitment makes more sense.. (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm not sure I'm comfortable with where this is going. The OP has a picture that is (allegedly) freshly posted and deleted, but the general tone suggesting that a recent recruiting prospect didn't come here because he was paid is, to me, dangerous to throw around everywhere. Mods?

EDIT: This picture has gone viral, SBnation has a story on it, and our Fearless Leader has just tweeted about it; it's relevant, not just a bitter Michigan thing, apparently. So I retract my complaint.

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January 30th, 2013 at 12:10 PM | OT: Are We Getting Closer to NCAA Athletes Getting Paid? NCAA se (Score:1)
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Double post, still on the front page of board topics.

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January 30th, 2013 at 12:20 PM | Title (Score:1)
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I kind of wish this was a thread someone actually wanted to make, since it probably would have made PGB/BiSB's list of least informative titles.

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January 31st, 2013 at 12:45 PM | Ohio Bball tickets needed - help? (Score:1)
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I left it up for an hour hoping someone could help.  Stubhub it is!

 

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February 7th, 2013 at 12:44 PM | In the future... (Score:2)
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Point them to this:

get tickets, help blog

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January 31st, 2013 at 7:11 PM | Is Skip Bayless (or other (Score:2)
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Is Skip Bayless (or other ESPN trolls) allowed? Can we get a ruling?

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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February 7th, 2013 at 12:49 PM | I don't want to extend the (Score:2)
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I don't want to extend the insta-die rule any further. Foster and Sharp and Valenti are there because any given week they will say something flame-worthy, and the odd time they say something relevant or insightful it is just there to lure people in so they can be trolled again. Obviously "MAKE PLAYS" doesn't count--that can be posted for ever and ever. Ace Williams is on the list because he doesn't just print lies, but prints lies that are meant to hurt peoples' reputations.

With the rest, treat on a case-by-case basis. That probably means 99.9% of anything Bayless says.

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January 31st, 2013 at 9:57 PM | Darboh amazing catch (Score:1)
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Sometimes you're so late to the party you think you're early.

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February 1st, 2013 at 6:06 PM | Football Four Season Tickets Available (Score:1)
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Left it up for about an hour thirty before posting the OP as a comment in the ticket sticky.

OP: If you need any of the emails, ask here. Mods can still see the post.

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February 2nd, 2013 at 8:19 PM | Hello: Jack Wangler (preferred walk-on) (Score:1)
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Close, but a few seconds late.

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