MNF: Lions vs. Seahawks [open thread] / Mid-Atlantic Day Off Due To Floods & "Case of the Mondays" Drinking Thread

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Nothing else to do tonight...cheers.

RobM_24

October 6th, 2015 at 1:37 AM ^

Exactly. He'd need possession, completely cross the goal line, then completely cross the goal line once again to return to the endzone -- then it would be a safety. Otherwise it's simply a touchback, unless it's illegally batted, in which case it's a penalty enforced from the spot of the fumble.

thedeauxabides

October 6th, 2015 at 12:23 AM ^

The ref took the skate route knowing a penalty on a clear rule violation would have had him dealing with rabid 12th man. This, Dean Blandinio, is a fireable offense. If you're not capable of being a man and doing your job then hit the bricks. Also worth noting, everything inside of 2 minutes should fu

JamieH

October 6th, 2015 at 12:42 AM ^

What is the point of replay if you can't review something critical like that?  You have mandatory review on turnovers, but you can't review THAT?  Seriously?  Who wrote that assinine rule? 

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13819689/dean-blandino-refs-incorrect… BTW the blind moron claiming that the ball just went out of bounds by accident is Greg Wilson. How he ever got a job in the NFL to begin with is beyond me, given that I'd take Forest Gump in a battle of wits over him.

JamieH

October 6th, 2015 at 1:03 AM ^

Because the penalty in question directly affects who possesses the ball.  Because of the penalty, nobody recovered the fumble.  So the act of the penalty was the determining factor in who got the ball.  You shouldn't be able to commit a penalty that directly determines who gets the ball that is unreviewable when every change of possession is automatically reviewable.

Muttley

October 6th, 2015 at 2:10 AM ^

On the other hand, the NFL should not employ officials like Greg Wilson who cannot see what was obvious to grandmothers across America.

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/651245368542425088/photo/1?ref_…

 

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Unless, of course, Greg Wilson was uber-quick-thinking and seized upon an opportunity to give a much needed boost to the very well-known Seahawks and their sagging playoff chances.

JamieH

October 6th, 2015 at 3:03 AM ^

neither of those penalties are directly related to a turnover.

 

This penalty is DIRECTLY related to the determination of who recovered a fumble. AKA the VERY ACT OF THE PENALTY CAUSED A TURNOVER.   And BY RULE, all turnovers MUST be reviewable.  This is a paradox.  If the act of the penalty alters the very definition of who basically receives the turnover, you HAVE to put it on the reviewable list, right? 

Now I know you coud argue that Pass Interferece could "cause" a turnover, but that is more indirect.  This penalty DIRECTLY caused the turnover.  His illegal batting of the ball out of the endzone is what gave the ball to Seattle.  Therefore you HAVE to allow it to be reviewed, or the entire "we review all turnovers" becomes a joke. 

JamieH

October 6th, 2015 at 3:06 AM ^

I am of the opinion that he obviously saw the play clearly and just was completely clueless about the rule. I think he is now lying to CYA because he thinks the NFL will punish him less for a ridiculously poor judgement call than for not knowing the actual rules. 

But all of that is just personal speculation.  The dude could just be blind and incompetent.