MMB: Michigan (3) vs NC State (18) Open Thread
I can't believe the B1G dropped 10 in a row before the past few years. I can't wait for the B1G to rebound like this on the football field.
Not sure it's gonna happen unless the ADs start hiring better coaches. This basketball rejuvenation is because Michigan hired Beilein, OSU hired a guy like Matta, Purdue brought in Painter, and Indiana brought in Crean. Add in the established guys such as Izzo and Ryan, and that's why the leaugue is elite. If football wants to match it, then teams like Illinois, Purdue, and Minneosta are going to have to improbe the quality of coach they bring in (Or we could just dilute with Marylnd/Rutgers BIG TENNNNN)
Hell tubby smith deserves to be on your list too.
Trey Burke is gonna show up tonight and create opportunities for everyone else.. big scoring night for GRIII, Hardaway, and Morgan/Mcgary
A stream will be available here:
It is also on ESPN for those who have access to it.
I'm stuck in grad school class tonight from 630-930 central time so I'll miss the whole game without the stream. Appreciate the link!
I hope we can run NCST ragged, they don't seem to have a lot of depth to their rotation compared to ours, so if we play a little bit uptempo we should be able to run them off the floor.
I'm predicting a 17 point win for us. 78-61.
Clean the glass!
Let's Go Blue!
Make no mistake, NC State is a very good team. They shot poorly against a damn good Oklahoma State team and putzed around against UNC-Asheville, but this team is gonna bring it.
Burke, Hardaway, and GRIII need to be physical and get the offense going early by attacking the basket and setting the tone physically.
LET'S GO BLUE!
Why isn't Crisler sold out? I see a lot of empty seats
but I expected Crisler to be a bit more full for a #3-#18 matchup
The video they used before the game started wasn't live. The PA announcer was announcing the lineups, but the students were dancing and the lights were still on.
Looks like only the students decided to show up on time.
BOO THAT PASS!
Sloppy first couple possessions.
Get Leslie in foul trouble, there we go!
Leslie has go go gadget arms!
shared by Brian on his Twitter feed:
Cant wait to see the 2013 banners go up next year!
Why is Vogrich a starter again?
It was said that his defense is better than Stauskas.
Who is saying these things?
Are you trying to say Stauskus is a better defender than Vogrich? I think we have a better team with Stauskus on the floor but I think Stauskus has a ways to go on the defensive end.
Very sloppy passing early on.
Gotta work harder to find the offense
is non-existant. feed a big man, pleeezz
have a seat
Even though he is a senior, he needs to be sitting to start the game.
Too much standing around on offensive possessions. Michigan is too athletic for that.
Michigan is looking awful so far.
Dakich with the answer to why the expansion happened actually. Solid women's basketball programs. Delaney you genius
But I'm impressed by the knowledge. Those are two good hoops programs (Rutgers and Maryland).
What a play by Stauskas
Wow Canadian Bacon with the finish
I think we've found a nickname.
lite it up
in the student section?
Our boy Stauskas is from Ontario! I'm assuming it's for him!
Yep, my flag. Good thing Stauskas gave me a lot of reason to wave it around.
Looking a little rough right now BUT its still early. The difference with this team is that a "slow" start will not doom them like past teams.
Molson Ice! Taking it to the hole.
Like the nickname. Looked like he had ice flowing through his veins in MSG.
Looks like some football players made it to the game
Before the season I thought Stauskas was just a shooter. That kid has a quick step to the rack and can finish when he gets there.
Am I seeing things?
I guess it wasn't. The announcers said it was a 3.
needs to be the stsrter, not Vogrich
lookin' good early
THjr on fire!
Man, Hardaway has been terrific this year.
i <3 Timmy
I LOVE HARDAWAY REAL HARD
Hardaway with 9 points already!
I see ya Tim!
I think this team is good
high percentage shots around the basket, and high motor to grab their own boards. balance is a thing of beauty.
job of gaining control, if you can call it that, of this game.
Also nice to see Morgan and Mitch in the game together
When McGary plays himself into shape he is gonna be a beast.
it's nice to be able to have two big guys in a once. i can actually see mcgary further eat into Vogrich's minutes; not just Stauskus.
Looking good. Keep up the pace.
I am waiting for Stauskas to pull up at the M....
What a great pickup by beilien. Great add for this team
"stauskas has lived his life on fire"
Sounds like the tag line to Ghost Rider 2 ft Nik Stauskas
Overshadowed by Robinson and McGary in rankings coming in but he looks like the gem so far
Little Big Dog can ball.
Holy Stauskas! Can this kid ever miss? I literally have never seen it happen.
Is it to have Spike to come off the bench. Kid hustles hard
He's like a Mini-Novak
CANADIAN BACON GOES HAM AGAIN!! /nicknamefight
i see morgan can do a standing dunk now...WITH AUTHORITY
No, he had a step. He didn't dunk when he was under the basket before, but he was quick enough to get his own rebound.
Still seems like a noticeable improvement. Seemed like he had to be on a breakaway to jam last year.
I'm glad that I know Spike's dad was an incredible youth basketball player.
We look DANGEROUS!
this is darn fun to watch and that's an understatement
30 second time-out and ESPN thinks they're going to a break.
I like this a lot. Damn we're athletic now.
that give and go, this team is only gonna get better once they gel together more
Exciting times to be a Michigan fan.
Can't remember us being this complete since I watched the Fab Five as a kid.
Love the Fab 5, but I bet this team will work harder during the regular season.
There's a lot of valid critcisms of the Fab Five, but how hard they played is not one of them...
Mostly because they were eternally pissed off and wanted to dominate every game to prove how good they were
Hardaway is looking like an NBA draft pick next year, and we were lucky to get Trey back this year. Wow are these guys good!
and dunking as opposed to laying it in.
was that an NC STATE time out?
WTF. HOLY CRAP. STAUSKAS
Statuskas is my hero.
Sick pick n'roll. Great story Dakich just brought up about Stauskas. 74-87 threes in 5 minutes, with 26 in a row at one point. Awesome to have a sniper from behind the arc.
That corner trey off the kick-out pass -- SWEET!!
HAM SLAM KAABAMMM
This team is damn good!
Remember when these games were automatic for the ACC. No more!
Ok best trade ever (stauskas for smotrycz) sorry Evan we don't miss you.
Kid with Canadian flag and rain poncho wins gag fan costume of the year.
That was me. Bought that flag for Nik and since he makes it rain from 3, thought I'd add the rain poncho. Best $12.50 I've ever spent (thank for the free shipping, Amazon Prime Student!). I think I'll keep wearing it and bring the flag to the other games, people seemed to like and and Stauskas is just on fire.
This is a Basketballgasm.
...and Burke hasn't even scored. WOW
Stauskas for Heisman!!
keep the pressure on these guys and put this game away early, already have 30 points w/8 mins to play in half
Nik Stauskas>Jimmer Fredette
if burke is cold, hardaway can take over. if hardaway is cold, then stauskas lives a life of fire. then gr3, then one of three big men. ugh this team is filthy
i know Akkune is a senior but why.. does he play??
but why is ekkune on the court?
I love Akunne but these minutes should be going to Albrecht. He's a liability against real competition.
I have a feeling I'm not gonna like Akkune this year
take akunne out, geeesh
stop chucking it.
in the game this early?
Its defending inside.
What do you do? If you extend fully on the 3 shooters (as if you could ver really feel you've extended enough to cover Stauskas!!), then Burke carves you up and has some good options (read depth) inside to help. If you pack it in, we have guys who can torch you from half court.
Only thing that needs to improve is D. Youth shows through in spurts.
Gonna be a fun year!!
Akunne should never play... Period
Akkune plays like a walk on coming on in garbage time. "Well I guess I'll shoot cause I'm in!"
what the hell is happening
what a coach. when he got here it was mostly 1-3-1 on defense and a slow paced, princeton style offense.
now it's man defense, run whenever possible and attack the basket.
i can't think of any coaches who can adapt like he can. no one.
That pass had eyes
GO BLUE, GO BLUE, GO BLUE!!!!! That is all...O, wait, GO BLUE!! Yup, had one more...
please keep foot on the pedal at all times
Burke to GRIII, make FT's
Next we're going to see Bartelstein out there in his suit.
Has anyone noticed that the Adidas digi- fade on the shorts is a series of small block Ms?
but defending the 2nd chances under the bucket seem to be a weakness of ours
I think M actually has one of the best opponent offensive rebound percentages in the NCAA. But they will struggle with certain lineups
Stauskas. Oh my God.
Do not take Stauskas out again...
Stauskas can't be stopped
stauskas = super saiyan
We were our own momentum killer when Akunne came in.
Nothing goes right when Eso comes in the game
Stauskas put out the fire right there.
i'm getting alittle worried
Okay, Canadian Bacon, this is getting ridiculous.
The Mountie!!! (maybe??)
MAN ON FIRE
Stauskas should start. He's unreal.
and from the weakside but the rest of this game, Michigan has looked amazing!
Stauskas for Heisman!
set by that kid from Grinnel last week?
No. Gotta share the ball.
i think Stauskas will start by middle of season
I think the only reason that he is not starting is to make our 2nd unit that much better. think james harden when he was at okc not starting but clearly being starter caliber.
I think Beilein is starting Vogrich just to give a nod to the senior. Starting lineups really don't matter as much in basketball, it's common to start a Senior over a Freshman early in the season just to respect the 4/5 years the senior has put in. Who Beilein plays to close the game tells more about what he thinks about his players than who he plays to start
Flawless thus far aside from the eso cameo...
Hey guys - I'm just tuning in. How's Stauskas doing?
Not particularly bad.
He's missed one 3 pointer. I have higher expectations for him at this point
Stauskas. Are you fucking kidding me? I've been saying, this player is closer to Glen Rice than any we've had since Rice won us a championship. For those that are too young to have seen Rice play for UM, this is what he did. Very similar. Killed it from outside, and by doing so, created space enough to drive to the basket and score/get fouled. Rice was taller, but that is the only real difference in their games. Stauskas is only a freshman? He'll be here at least three years because he is not the most atheltic player - which will hurt him on the next level. But this kid is going to (and already is) going to get serious national attention. Who is a better shooter in the country?
He's pretty damn athletic actually. Just wait til his first throwdown
I haz some lettuce too.
WUT? He missed?
loves calling these Michigan games.
seemed to push Stauskas' shot back out
Burke pressing a little maybe
Please, I want the focus on the game.
NC STATE is fighting
has been lethal thus far
I like High Post in the zone, all day
Letting 'em hang around....
way too lazy on D. giving up too many easy buckets. we should be running away with this game right now.
but as soon as we let off the gas NC State is right there
Trey Burke 4th best player on our team right now.
2/3. Robinson Jr. / Stauskas
4. Trey Burke
I think the year will end with Burke battleing Hardaway, but so far Burke justisn't in in sync and seems to be taking bad shots and pushing it when he shouldn't. Not sure why = can't figure it out. With that said, it's amazing that we have three players playing so well that they can overcome several fairly poor games in a row by Trey. This team is stacked.
Might need to get used to a new role of distributor more than scorer.
exactly. Which is good for the team and might be good for him long-term.
Definitely good for him long term as an NBA PG
He has 9 assists!!!!
Just can't quite seem to get it back. Still not a bad half
Coach is not going to be happy with the D this half. Offense looks unbelievably good, just an incredible amount of weapons with a NBA prospect running the show. Defense looks average to good. Same as last year. Need an eraser at the rim to force more low % outside looks.
Definitely need to tighten up the D, get some easy baskets and extend our lead.
Even men of the cloth are Michigan fans
Of course. God wears maize-n-blue.
we gotta keep pounding these guys.. looks like they came to fight
nice finish to the half
Up 7 at the half. I'll take it.
9 assists. Nice Burke
Exactly. If he wants to show off his NBA chops, that means more than points. NBA GMs know Burke can shoot and score. But if you're going to draft a 6'0" PG, you need to know he is a great distributor, not just good. Burke is looking like that this year.
I WAS WRONG
I just wrote above about Trey playing poorly - I didn't realize he had that many assists. WTH? That is incredilbe. That is what he hasn't been able to do well in earlier games. But if he can put up assists like this, he doesn't need to score in order for him to be a GREAT player. 9 assists in a college half is really incredible.
I feel that with this team, Burke should be dishing out about 10 assists per game - which is an incredibly high number for NBA, and even more rare in NCAA. But with these scorers - he should do it - that's what this team needs.
He's not playing poorly, but he took a couple of long range threes that made it look like he was pressing a little bit. Kid is awesome, dishing the ball well.... cut down some dribbling and take the points when the D gives it to you.
NC State is much closer than they should be.
We should honestly be up by 14 at least.
Agree. But I'll take being up by 7 to the 16th ranked team at half
Akkunes reckless playing gave them a 6-0 run I believe
And they were when I tuned in with around 8 minutes to go in the half. From that point on, we pulled down exactly ONE rebound, did a fair amount of matador defense, and essentially seemed to decide not to apply the killer stroke.
A bit more intensity would put this one away.
Trey Burke has 8 assists. We're far better off with him getting the whole roster involved than relying on him making bailout shots a la last year. His scoring will be there when we need it, but right now we don't
He has 9.
What an awesome feeling it is to know that you have a good basketball team. I don't know if I could've ever said that in my 24 years of fandom (obviously was too young in the Fab 5 era). I'm literally giddy.
Enjoy this! I thought Michigan was entitled to good teams and talent but I learned otherwise.
It's fun watching this team play.
I grew up with the Fab Five as my intro M basketball and they were fun. The Dark Period between then and now was long and no fun but the wait seems to be worth it. Belein has got something special building here and it's fun to look forward to March again.
Instead of 59. I want him coaching Michigan basketball for 20 more years!
Call to MGoPhotoshoppers:
Nik Stauskas on Fire!! (He has lived his life on Fire after all)
I blame the 2 cheap fouls on vogrich...because when stauskas needed the breather belein sent in akunne, which led to the mini-run by nc state because he took 2 horrible shots.
Akunne came in for THJr, not Stauskas, I believe. It was the only time Timmy was on the bench the whole half. With LaVert redshirting, Hardaway is the only guy we don't have a good sub for.
I'd rather see Vogrich and Molson Ice on together instead of Akunne though.
You may be right. I would frankly rather see spike than akunne.
For real, Akunne needs to only see mop up minutes. He can't handle the ball, plays subpar D and takes horrible shots. My main point is.....
Halftime snowflake.... Are we the 3rd best team in the country?
we just need a more consistent D effort
This team could very well be the number 1 team in the country.
They do have a few weaknesses.
we will be once all of our young guys gain more experience - possibly mid-way through the Big Ten season. I think we are comfortably Top 10 already, but this team WILL GET BETTER.
It's not only the freshman that will get better. Al Horford will definitely improve as he's only played a few minutes of college ball. But possibly the biggest improvement will come from Burke who, until today's first half 9 assists, was not playing well - shooting poorly, taking bad shots, and not distributing the ball too well (for his ability). He will learn how to adjust to this team and will improve both assists and shooting.
Yeah, top 3 ... at least.
Need to take it to the rack in the second half and force them to give up easy baskets or get their bigs in foul trouble.
This. We can bang and have fouls to spare in the front court.
just about all the analysts, studio guys as well as play by play guys are very impressed by M....wait till we get even more cohesive
Stausk-Ice. Minions, you must all refer to him as such, or Ice for short, henceforth.
The kid goes ham. CANADIAN BACON.
Trey isn't even scoring and we are still looking amazing. This team is so sick!!!!
A top scorer doesn't get a point and still finds a way to contribute. Meanwhile, the rest of the Wolverines are lighting it up.
Burke's 9 assists tie his career high. The Michigan record is 14 (Gary Grant did it twice in 1987).
For some reason, that seems very low for a record. Crazy
I remember being so sad at the thought of losing Zack and Stu... what they contributed on and off the floor, and especially leadership role. But my god, has Beilein replaced them with legit talent. Guys with future NBA talent.
Not as bummed as originally thought I would be without those two. But I'll always appreciate what they helped build here.
Lets go Staus Baus!!!
I go back to the Ricky Green, C.J.Cupek, Hubbard, Johnny Rob, Wayman Britt, Steve Grote and I was spoiled for the most of 3 decades and then an SUV took a tumble and so did our beloved program.
Really nice to see this resurgence that seems like it will be a sustaining thing going forward.
I grew up with U-M being a perennial top ten team in both FB & BB, glad to be there again.
Said it earlier..... I love the Fab 5, was an awesome time to be a Michigan BB fan. But I think this team will work harder in the regular season, and might end up accomplishing more if we can get some of these guys to stay for two years or more.
GRIII is a beast on the boards
and THJ has been killing the midrange game
Leslie is a great player
to much dribble
did espn go dark for anyone?
need more communication in transition
Coming out of the half looking downright sluggish
We are getting straight up dominated down low on the blocks.
getting too many easy baskets, need to fix that
and Trey with a Trey
but Im not going to argue
That's a foul that GRIIi needs to contest it
Well timed three from Burke
NC State is insanely athletic. If they learn to play defense they are going to be really good this year
gotta make the free throws
FIRST CAREER DUNK
and finish by Burke!
fuck yeah. M looking good on the boards
Ball: Also positively charged apparently
is ready for every tip demolition
Stauskas missed two in a row? INCONCEIVABLE!!
Stauskas so close!
OMG that poss. was ILLEGAL. GRIII to the FT line
Every miss of Stauskas almost goes in. Never a bad shot.
Stauskas is a robot from the future sent back in time to make a ridiculously high percentage of threes. Sometimes he just needs to recalibrate ever so slightly, but never more than a few centimeters.
are we athletic and silky smooth, so many of them and we hustle too.
This games feels like a game in March right now
Is that you? Silky smooth? Me like.
MOELLER! DON'T DRINK!! Too soon?
Check my signature.
I think the guy on Moeller's left played for Fielding Yost.
Look at him -- clearly invented winged helmets.
I think it's Al Glick.
Thanks. Now I feel like a complete asshole. :D
Did anyone know Burke could dunk?
SIZE!? INSIDE SCORING!? REBOUNDING!? MICHIGAN!?
lol- sorry... I just get excited seeing these two young men on the court at the same time.
I'd love to see more 1-3-1. I haven't seen anyone have an answer to it yet all season
imo, it is too high risk high reward. we don't need to play that type of D anymore. we have athletes and players.
What are the students yelling at the NC State end of the floor??
They're taunting NC State's big guy
I really like Dakich as a commentator.
But yes, I really do enjoy him.
He makes me miss the B1G student announcers from the exhibition games.
He's good, except he keeps repeating "chin on the rim", kind of annoying me
Double Double.. and counting.
it's hard to imagine a team that can contain all of our weapons
Up 13 and I still feel like we could be playing much better. We have so much talent and depth it's crazy
not to take Trey for granted, some comments here about him being 4th best player right now
The guy is a pure leader, dribbles too much sometimes, but he is the PG and I wouldn't trade him for any other PG in the country
How many minutes has Vogrich played tonight?
This is why I don't understand people getting bent out of shape that he starts.
Celebrated by Michigan legend Denard!
Countess: Not impressed
EDIT: Or wait, is that Raymon?
It looked like Darboh.
cause he sizzles!!!!
It just sounds right ya know. Lets make the tshirt.
wasn't sold on "candian bacon" until the "sizzles" comment. nicely done.
San Diego Mick was my closer on the sell of that nickname. Fine work, you win a set of steak knives.