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Minutes from the Big East football meeting after the ACC raid in 2003

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Minutes from the Big East football meeting after the ACC raid in 2003

After the ACC raid of the Big East in 2003 of Miami and Virginia Tech, the six-remaining football schools met to discuss options for the future of the conference.  The minutes from the meeting leaked out a few years ago and the Big East has confirmed them.  (I'm shocked that no one in the media has discussed these during all of the expansion talk)

Big East Football Meeting Minutes - July 2003

- The Athletic Directors of the six-remaining football members agreed to a split between the football and basketball-only schools and expansion to an 8 or 9 team football conference.

- The Presidents appear to have gotten cold feet about abandoning the five basketball-onlies who would be left out in the cold without an NCAA auto-bid.  Notre Dame also supported keeping the conference intact and kept the split vote at 6-6 without a majority.

- The Big East approached Notre Dame and Penn State about membership  (SU Chancellor Shaw approached Father Harrington of ND and Graham Spanier of Penn State).

- Of the expansion candidates, everyone supported adding Louisville, was considering Cincinnati and Temple for all sports, and UCF, Army, and Navy for football only.  Dismissed Memphis, Marshall, Southern Miss, ECU, UAB, and South Florida (Louisville would eventually get USF in).

- Syracuse AD Jake Crouthamel led off the meeting by saying that if the Big East went to the hybrid 16-team conference he would retire.  Jake retired in 2005.

- Father Leahy (BC) indicates he "never felt the Big East had a commitment to excellence and, further it had difficulty in balancing football/basketball issues.  If people within the room at some point feel uncomfortable about the direction of the league and, secondly, is presented with an attractive alternative, they would pay the $5M penalty and give the 27-month notice."  BC left the Big East shortly thereafter.

The binding contract entered into by the football schools with each other with a penalty of $5 million and 27-month notice for leaving the conference... expires July 1st.

Big Ten and ACC raiding of the Big East may have yet to begin.

Syracuse '03, Michigan G'05

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June 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 PM | Very Interesting (Score:1)
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June 22nd, 2010 at 12:17 PM | It seems like most of these (Score:1)
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It seems like most of these contracts are renewed, altered, etc. before teh prior one runs completely out.  Is there any confirmation that there hasn't been any change or extension to this agreement in the years since this meeting took place? 

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June 22nd, 2010 at 12:25 PM | My understanding is that this (Score:1)
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My understanding is that this contract has not been renewed.

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June 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 PM | And the plot thickens... (Score:1)
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And the plot thickens...

 Robinson also packed snow into a plastic bag for his return flight.
"Melted on the plane," he said.
 


 

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June 22nd, 2010 at 12:34 PM | That really shocks me that (Score:1)
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That really shocks me that they approached Penn State.  I am under the impression that Penn State is perfectly happen in the Big Ten.  Why would they jump ship to a "lesser" conference?

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June 22nd, 2010 at 12:37 PM | That's why they're still  in (Score:1)
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That's why they're still  in the Big Ten

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June 22nd, 2010 at 12:53 PM | Penn State previously wanted (Score:1)
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Penn State previously wanted to join the Big East before it joined the Big Ten and was voted down (most supported, Pitt and the basketball-onlies were opposed (it failed by one vote)... I'm sure they hadn't and still haven't forgot that).

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June 22nd, 2010 at 12:40 PM | I'm pretty (Score:1)
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sure the BTN wasn't around in 2003, making revenues alot less skewed than they are now. Maybe PSU entertained it then, but not now with all the $ from the BTN.

I got a 23 and didn't get in. Of course I'm a 5'8 white guy that can't catch herpes at a titty bar. - Toledowolverine

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July 2nd, 2010 at 11:04 AM | July 2nd.  The Big East (Score:1)
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July 2nd.  The Big East schools are now free for the taking...

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