Minor Dunn Update: Just talked to Meyer
Twitter is so confusing! I'm only 20 and it makes me feel like I'm 70. Who's doing the talking in the last one, there are two "and me too"'s
Edit: Nvm, just saw strobel's username
twitter needs a better way to do nested tweets
Twitter is definitely not as easy to understand as it should be...
I agree. I don't have a clue who is saying what and to who when I read these things.
But it was Shane Morris who added an extra 'Me Too!'
Meyer probably tried to explain away the fact that the tailback position was an afterthought in his offense. He had zero 1,000-yard rushers at tailback in his six years at UF.
Something about him is just off. Don't you think? Even his espn interview was awkward with long pauses and he looked... Unsure and apologetic.
I watched his intro press conference and I thought the same thing. Maybe I'm being a homer, but it doesn't seem from his demeanor that he's 'all in', so to speak.
He was the same way at the Florida press conference
Maybe he is like Christopher Walken in the Stepford Wives?!
Someone needs to drop that stat on him quick.
He has two National Championships. Who the hell cares about 1,000 yard rushers. I really don't get the Urban hate in terms of what he has done in the world of college football. He has won everywhere and he didn't simply win at FL because of Tebow. There was a guy named Chris Leak there when Tebow was a situational gimmick. The guy will win. I don't think he will win more than Hoke over the next 10 years but he will win. In fact, him+Braxton Miller scares the hell out of me.
That's a good point, but I think you're missing the argument here. Brionte wants to have a chance to play in a prostyle offense which will then best help him get to the NFL. Meyer has not produced that type of player or used that type of player in his offense. Dunn doesn't like that offense as a result. If Dunn goes to OSU and isn't used properly, it might hinder him from accomplishing other goals, like playing in the NFL, even if he is on a national championship team.
It realy scares the hell out of you? Pussy.
You could have at least come up with something new rather than simply calling him names. At least be a little more creative!
Who the hell cares about 1000 yeard rushers? Guys going to college to rush the football. That's who.
who are strong NFL hopefulls. Meyer is a great coach, no doubt, but he's not the right one for a guy that wants to be an NFL RB (or QB, some may argue).
Stirring the Tebow pot I see, well played sir.
On paper, he didn't get any more out of Chris Leak than Ron Zook.
I'm not going to argue that he's a bad coach, but there's no way he has the same four year stretch without Tim Tebow. So the question is whether he can find another player like that (not to mention defense and coaching staff).
Hopefully Dymonte knows this fact. He'll be sure to remind Brionte often.
according to a scout article, Urban will be making an in a house visit this week and they talked about how dunn would fit in the offense over the phone.
Pretty sure Fred Jackson is visiting him in house as well. When Dunn hears he can be the next Anthony Thomas cross bred with Tim Biakabutuka, but with the heart and determination of Mike Hart, he might turn blue.
..."with the heart and determination of Mike Hart" but *fast*.
Edit: damn you 3g you have failed me once again....
i'm confused. are you saying that Brionte Dunn is like the 4G version of Mike Hart??
(ok ok that was terrible)
Well played, yes as well.
not that bad. don't be so hard on urself.
He would fit into the O as the situational power runner, something all O's need. Tebow fit that bill at FL fortunately for Meyer along with everything else possible. Dunn is not a situational runner though; he is, and should be, a features back.
But somehow I think Meyer told him he would run pro-style, just to get him into the fold.
Meyer's offense is good, but it isn't flexible. Just ask John Brantley how good Meyer is at accommodating pro-style players...
Unfortunately for Dunn, Michigan should be running quite a bit of spread next year -- however with Morris coming in (and Gardner's height and passing ability), I hope Dunn recognizes that we are truly moving into a pro-style offense.
Michigan runs the spread and still gets a 1,000 yard RB along with Denard. All Urban had for running was Tebow at Florida. And with Gardner the offense will be a lot more pro set heavy, and then with Shane it will almost cetainly be all pro with some shotgun thrown in.
"All Urban had for running was Tebow at Florida"
Percy Harvin disagrees with you. But he was completely different than Dunn
Percy Harvin was a slot, and kind of a mix around get the ball in his hands however you can kind of guy. By no means did he regularly run the ball.
scat/slot ≠ feature RB
So he was able to be used differently. We can say our sub 4.4 guy is the QB, so we'll need to tote the rock.
Sub 4.2 speed, I was there when he ran the 4.18, that kid is blazing fast.
That's not really the issue. Toussaint topped 1,000 yards rushing this year and will probably exceed that next year. It's not the spread per se, but the Meyer version of the spread that doesn't make the tailback the primary rusher.
I bet it would if he had Dunn.
You think none of his Florida teams had talented running backs?
...but I don't think anyone he's ever coached has played a down at RB in the NFL. That could mean he never recruited talent at the position or it could mean talent was wasted....
has played some downs as running back for the Vikings.
I don't think it takes anything away from the argument, but you're right.
Jeff Demps, Chris Rainey, Mon Williams, Chevon Walker, Bo Williams, and Emmanuel Moody were all 4-star RB recruits. Either Meyer got extremely unlucky and went 0-for-6 in recruiting good players, or he doesn't have a clue how to use or develop RBs.
Meyer more resembles the RichRod spread with the QB running the ball majority of the time, and the RB becomes an extra blocker. I can see why Dunn wouldn't want to join up in that. He wants the ball.
Steve Slaton went over 1,000 three times playing for West Virginia. Running Backs unfortunately never stayed healthy while RichRod was at U of M -- Fitz could have contributed a lot in 2010 had he not been the sideline, and Brandon Minor and Carlos Brown also could have gotten a lot more yards had they not been constantly injured, even on the horrible 2008 team.
they play in a shit conference with NO top defensive teams (or offensive teams either). Their success was very Boise State like.
I think the comparison is fine. It isn't necessarily between Michigan and WV; its more of distinction between RR's spread offensive scheme and Urbans. RR offense ran in WV ran around 70% of the time and utilized RBs heavily. They weren't just lead blockers. As such Noel Devine wanted to play in the offense. It doesn't exactly matter that the Big East doesn't have elite defenses but during RR's time there the Big East had some elite offenses (Louisville, WV, and Rutgers/Ray Rice). I don't know why you are so frustrated about the WV comparison. The poster was just explaining that RR used RBs when he had them. We just didn't exactly have any we could use effectively when he was here, since he overlooked Minor the first season and after giving Minor the reigns not being able to pass might fly in the Big East but not the Big Ten. Then Minor was injured most of 2009. Shit.