Minick gets probation
A lot of things you do can get people killed. What this bozo did was really stupid, but don't act he actually killed someone. It really weakens your point if you start pretending he's guilty of a greater crime.
are fucking idiots as said. It's just stupid and endangers lives. There is no point in being nice or polite for cases like that. It's an awful thing to do and people that do it don't need coddling, they need to be deterred from ever driving drunk again.
I think it's acceptable to get really angry and even to swear when confronted with yet another idiot who drank way too much and got behind the wheel. And had an accident.
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This guy almost went head on with another car. I'm all for second chances, but not when you put someone else's life on the line.
This day has sucked, wake me up on 9/3/15
Will all those who a month ago said not to be down on Minick because we dont have all the info and for all we know he was stone sober and this was the police acting aggressively come back today and say "damn that's just awful Minick"...or no?
Those (like me) who waited until all the information came out instead of rushing to judgement? He was rightly punished, and will serve his debt.
He seems to be alluding to the people who did the opposite, who instead of waiting for all of the information to come out just proclaimed his innocence.
It's innocent until proven guilty in any case.
Yeah, but when you smell smoke, see smoke, you don't need a fireman to tell you there is a fire.
And it turns out he was really fucking guilty.
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Looking for Harbaugh to fire his friend from football operations. Really 8 drinks! That kind of poor judgement could mean he has done this before and finally got caught. He also lied to police, which seems to not be a crime legally, but it is poor behavior for University leadership positions. Luckily there were no injuries except to his University provided truck.
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He is ex-military, likely had something to do with it.
for a first offense, even with a high BAC, most jurisdictions won't give jail time as long as nobody got crashed into/hurt.
is a 45 day 'hard' suspension of the license and a 'smart start' for his car (must blow into device to drive and while driving it periodically), and substance abuse classes.
Lying. I'm totally lying.
.185 is Super Drunk.
That is a pathetic example for the team. Just shameful. This is a guy who got behind the wheel not after a couple drinks, but after getting hammered. 8 drinks that must have been doubles.
In Michigan, one can be "Super Drunk." That is a BAC above .17%. Link
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You think they must have been doubles to hit .185? That's insane.
Is worth doing right.
I'm a bit surprised he only got probation. I guess it's his first violation, but I'm always bothered by guys who drink and drive. It's one thing to get wasted, but its another to get behind the wheel of an SUV and swerve all over the road.
But I'm guessing this isn't too atypical despite the his BOC. Hopefully this was a lapse of judgment and everyone learns from it.
For some reason when I heard the 8 drink thing I got extra bothered. I guess I'm trying to imagine myself getting behind the wheel when I drank that much. I think we can all agree we've been at the point of 2-3 drinks and not really knowing if you're below the legal limit. Surely this guy knew he was driving while impaired. To me, he should be canned.
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Sorry for party rocking.
Someone mentioned this above, but I question if 8 drinks could have gotten him to .185 unless he slammed them very quickly. For an average-sized guy a single drink adds .025 BAC but you lose .015 per hour (it may very based on how generous the pour is or how strong the beer is) -- so by that math he would have had to have had 8 drinks in one hour to get to .185. If he had them over 3 hours he would have still have been drunk, but would have been closer to .15 (still well over the limit).
This is not about science. It is an emotional discussion of my gut feelings and how well this outcome aligns with my priors.
All true, however no matter how you cut it if you're .185 and drive off the road, you're shit-faced.
assume guy weighs, say 200 lbs. a drink is generally defined as a single 12 oz beer, a 1 oz shot of 80 proof liquor, or a 4 oz glass of wine. each of those adds about .017 % points of booze. as you mention you burn about .015 % off per hour. so for this guy he had almost 11 drinks in his system at the time he was measured. if he took 3 hrs to drink them, then add about another 3 on the night.
now when we tended bar down at charlies we sure weren't pouring 1 oz shots, so depending on what he really drank, he might have only had 5 or 6, but they were loaded.
it depends on who makes the drink and how much they pour. If say my dad makes the drink, you're probably getting two+ shots. So you could say / think you had eight drinks, while actually drinking more.
Either way, if you've had more than one - maybe two with dinner - that should be your trigger for not driving. No way I'd ever get behind the wheel after 8.
What was he thinking? A grow man in his position of authority with so much riding on his decision making including putting his best friend in a really bad spot is out getting hammered. But not only is out getting hammered, which alone would be enough to cause a great deal of embarassment to his best friend, he then gets behind the wheel and drives away. Then he nearly causes an accident with another motorist and finally he lies about it. WTF was he thinking?
I seriously doubt this was an isolated incident...I can't imagine anyone drinking like that and thinking they can drive unless they are a regular at it or under serious emotional distress.
Unbelievable. Not a role model.
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