From Miles himself.
Miles and Michigan Will Meet
link provided by user jfoust81 in another thread:
he's confirming that he's a candidate. this is pretty big news.
Team meeting set for tomorrow PM
If DB wants it done. Note Les' comments after the Cotton Bowl -- he was clearly trying to signal to DB that he was interested.
In 2008, right after RR was hired, Les spoke to RR and/or RR's parents and told them that Mich was Les' dream job and that he was envious of RR. (This was reported in the News and or Free Press IIRC).
Les is not turning down M. The question is, is DB turning down Les?
as his family is comfortable there.
Having a publicly acknowledged meeting with Miles would not make sense if Brandon is trying to manage fans' expectations before hiring Hoke. Right?
No, but it makes sense for Brandon to publicly acknowledge a meeting with him if he is going a different direction. That allows for him to say that he interviewed candidates from the Michigan family but felt that this was the best direction for our program. This would eliminate any rumors that we screwed things up with Miles and would make certain that we got the coach that we wanted.
I hope Dez can keep Herbbie locked in the closet till this is over this time.
Herbbie has lost all credibility when it comes to coaching vacancies.
says he's a candidate, no doubt. He wants to be offered, not sure if he wants to accept.
when the candidate himself confirms his interest, that's a pretty big deal. can u think of another coaching search where a candidate has done that? other than mike leach.
this is a really big deal. He certainly wants to be offered the job, otherwise today's announcement would have been that he's staying at LSU.
Also sounds like he legitmately may be in the dark - do they want to talk to me to get feedback on a candidate, or do they want to give me the job? Quite strange. Seems like each side is protecting itself - Les doesn't want to be spurned, neither does M. Couldn't they have settled this over a cup of coffee - it's all in the family.
Very curious - did DB want him to publicly acknowledge this? If so, why? If the two sides really haven't talked, then Miles couldn't have cleared this presser with DB. Fragile negotiations have fallen apart over less (no pun intended)
He seems completely passive in his response but he has a lot to consider and he can't appear too anxious about a job he may not get/take. He has to manage the expectations of the LSU fans and those of his family (wife has made comments that she does not want a return to A2).
have a link to his wife's comments? I think that's interesting and would like to read them.
Sorry no. I read it in the paper this morning and it was reported on one on the LSU sites.
If he can coach a football team I hope he can get that woman in line. I'm not saying that I want Les really bad, but any news that is against Hoke coming here.
what Les Miles of LSU releases to the public. All along my guess has been that DB HAD to meet with Les Miles. If he didn't he'd be crucified when he hired Hoke because a large contingency would surely feel that Les Miles was an attainable and better option.
Les Miles loves Michigan so if DB comes calling he won't scorn him by refusing to take the meeting. What will probably happen if DB really does have his heart set on Brady Hoke is he will talk to Les about what he thinks of Brady Hoke, and treat this "interview" as more of a consultation. Miles will then use the meeting to get a contract extension and come out publicly and say he'd love to finish his career an LSU Tiger and then DB will have covered his ass by talking to Les Miles.
Les Miles and LSU. Hopefully it goes without saying that Les Miles is "of" LSU.
you have thought this one out, I disagree.
I don't think DB has time to play these games. He would not wait 5 days just to make it look like he was interrested in a candidate and then hire someone else. Miles is a legit candidate. Whether he accepts or not, who knows, but I'd say it is more likely that a deal is in place rather than this is all for show.
I would have agreed with you if DB hadn't fumbled the RR dismissal in the beginning. DB does not let common sense enter the picture. If he did, he would not have waited until the last possible moment to get rid of RR. Doing so has imploded a top 20 recruiting class, (arguably top 10) with the loss of 4 top players at positions of serious need (Hart, Frost, Lyons, Zettel).
It is highly unlikely for a high profile coach like Les to admit interviewing. That pretty much means that all the details have been pretty much worked out and all there is left is the face-to-face meeting.
Wow, I really didn't think the old guards at UM would do such an about face. Shocking!
...but that doesn't necessarily equate to tact or intelligence.
Stuff like this is controlled by the agents, not the coach himself.
A press release like this sent when all the pieces are in place and the final interview is taking place (and even with that only if there are provisions forcing them to announce the interview publicly). Nobody likes to lose face and no one announces that they are interviewing unless they have to (lower profile guys would do it to show that high profile programs are interested in them).
Unless something goes terribly wrong between DB and Miles, this should be a done deal.
Or he's trying to squeeze more coin out of LSU.
Oh, I don't know if Les is trying to extract more money from LSU, but dang, it surely would be a nice coincidence if it did happen that way!
I wonder this. If we do end up with Miles, how much was spent and how many candidates were "vetted" by DB's outsourced "firm"? I want to know how much was paid for a firm to tell DB that Les Miles was a viable candidate. I wonder if those details will ever be released? Maybe DB needs a CFO to help him out.
These firms allow for much more confidentiality, and deniability. It allows us to save face if the guy we really want ends up saying no. Les is so public because his contract is forcing him to be.
this is the guy that Brandon hired to conduct the search.
It had to be done, otherwise you get a bunch of Pat Fitzgeralds' out there who "turn down" Michigan when we never even offered.
Yikes. I don't know all that went on, but I am pretty sure we didn't have to pay a guy to tell us Les Miles is a possible candidate. If they wanted a middle man, give me the script, $50, and a couple free pizzas and done deal.
Sounds like a good business venture.
Folks over at the LSU board seem to have come to the conclusion from that video that Miles will accept the Mich offer as long as it is not an insulting offer. Looking like there will be an announcement at the bball game Wed. is a possibility after all. Just curious as to who the coach coming out of the tunnel will be....
Ohh ohhh I know. I know!
Not Jim Harbaugh.
I understand Miles is insane, but why would you not have all this shit done behind closed doors if you were going after him? Either he just wants more dough from LSU or he is a total lunatic. Or both.
I think he is just trying to curb speculation somewhat. If you are completely tight lipped, you are giving too much room for the media to speculate. If you at least give them an update on what is going on, it disporves some of the outlandish B.S. that has been reported.
It only poured flames on the fire.
Now we know something is clearly up and are left even more to make shit up in our imaginations, er, I mean speculate, upon what is going on.
Maybe it was one of Brandon's criteria to meet to actually acknowledge your interest in order to avoid all the embarassing rejections from the last search.
Because we all know what happened with Saban when he said "I will not be the coach at Alabama." The media prefers it when coaches don't straight up lie to them at press conferences.
I am not so sure. His wording about his family and his discussions with underclassmen can be read to mean he is not moving. It was just - strange. It seemed like he was saying "Yes, we will meet, but nothing will come of it." without actually saying so.
This is a meeting that people are assuming is an interview, but after it's over there's a good chance the participants will still call it a "meeting" and say that Brandon was simply picking Miles's brain about other candidates. Note also that Miles says he won't speculate about the subject of the meeting.
That is exactly what they will say if the interview does not go well or some hitch happens during the final negotiation.
You have to leave a room for saving face if things do not go well. You would not say you are meeting with another school for a job unless you are actually interviewing. There are too many negatives to do so.
If that's true, why would Miles hold a presser to confirm the meeting? And if Brandon wanted to pick Miles' brains about other candidates (which to me seems absurd), why would he (or his representatives) have to meet Miles in person to do so? I think Miles tried to keep it as vague as possiblewithout committing either way. Even he was definitely going to turn us down, he could have either 1) not agreed to a meeting with Brandon; or 2) said in his presser that he's LSU's coach, and he wouldn't take the UM job even if it was offered to him. He didn't do either of those things.
You make some good points here. One thing to keep in mind is that Miles can't meet with Michigan in secret because his contract has a clause in it that says he has to give his AD 24-hour notice before any such meeting can take place. Once he notifies the AD, word is going to get out anyway.
I just think it's possible that Miles is trying to walk a fine line here. He wouldn't want to embarrass Michigan by flatly turning the job down, so he agrees to an "meeting"/"interview" that can later simply be called a meeting. Its just a theory based on something that was in a Times-Picayune story:
The person close to the situation at LSU acknowledged that Miles might be willing to talk to his alma mater, but that he was more likely see[k]ing a way not to embarrass Michigan by turning down the job.
"My impression is that he'd like to say 'No,' without saying 'No,'" he said. "He doesn't want to be on the list of people who turned him (Brandon) down."
The best way for Miles to say no without saying no is to say it in private, through an agent. That way Michigan can say Miles was never a target and Miles doesn't burn any bridges with LSU.
The only fine line being walked is for just in case if the final interview does not go well.
No high profile coach is going to say they are interviewing unless all the details have been worked out and there is mutual interest. There are too many negatives to high-profile coaches "just feeling things out" in a public manner. It is just not done.
Why would DB consult LM on other canidates for the position? What makes him so qualified to offer UM advice? Just because it is his alma mater? I do not think it would be worth the head ache for LM if it was just to ask for advice. You already see how stressed and uncomfortable this whole thing is making LM. Plus there are plenty of people that could verify/suggest other people for the postion.
He is a serious canidate for a reason. His connections to UM, his recruiting ability, and his abiltiy to coach football. All really good reasons.
The question now is why would he leave LSU now? His team will finish top 10 in BCS this year, a great recruiting class, and they are already being predicted as a Preseason top 5 team next year.
Bad gateway double post
If it were just a meeting, he would have said, "It's just a meeting to discuss other coaching candidates." Why raise expectations if you have no intention of fulfilling them?
This is finally real and means something. One way or the other we know that Les is, in fact a a candidate and that DB is meeting with him.
Right, if this were just flirtation I doubt Miles and Michigan would make it so public following what happened in 2007.
Who's telling him this? Is Les Miles taking orders from the shadow regim in Ypsi? Or is this coming from the same place that tells him to eat grass? Does he have a psychic on staff?
I believe that Miles himself said that the LSU AD had to get 24-hours' notice before Miles could meet with Michigan.
So . . . Michigan calls the LSU AD and asks for permission. The AD tells Miles that Michigan wants to speak to him tomorrow at the coaches' convention in Dallas.
But it is curious that Miles phrased it this way because it's hard to believe that he does not know about the meeting from his agent or the back-channel sources that Michigan as undoubtedly been contacting.
I left my wallet in...
I don't get it.
confirmed by Herbstreit.
but I can't. Damnable tubes!
This is strange. What we know from several reports is that Michigan plans to meet with Les Miles and that a place and time has not been determined. I assumed, given that DB and staff have remained so tight lipped, that there was a LOT going on behind the scenes that we didn't know about regarding Les Miles. This interview seems to indicate that there was nothing going on that we didn't know about. He hasn't spoken to Michigan, a meeting is being arranged, but not much else has happened. That kind of worries me.
Typically, most of the preliminary stuff is done through intermediaries. Allows both sides plausible deniability. It's not as if he and DB will be walking into the meeting cold, saying "So what's up?" The "interview" usually comes pretty late in the process. Plus, these guys already know each other.
24 hour notice is in his contract, so whether this constitutes sufficient notice (doubtful that it would be just this) or not, a formal notice would certainly be subject to an FOI request since LSU is a public institution.
Hence, it wasn't going to be a big secret for long.
Have a GREAT day!
Les bleeds blue. If he's not likely to make the cc, why would we he confirm that he's discussing same with Michigan? Who's interests would this serve? Nobody's. He doesn't need to go public in order to leverage LSU. And why would he (or M) put the school in a position where it would look jilted? Sounds to me that, if anything, he's leveraging M into an offer.
The fact that he said he isn't sure what the tone of the conversation will be really scares me. I have a bad feeling it will be DB saying "So Les, how do you feel about us hiring Hoke?"
IF they hire Miles, in my opinion it is an admission that the AD at the time completely fucked up the coaching search 3 years ago by not hiring him and instead offering a bunch of people until someone took it even though it was a "bad fit".
Isn't firing our coach after 3 short years admission enough that he things they completely fucked it up last time.
Just get it over with, my goodness!
to michigan. i have read that his wife doesn't want to come back to aa, and he even said how happy his family is there and that he loves it there. yeah he could come right out and say "NO" im not going to michigan and get it over with, but i think that he at least wants to talk to michigan if for anything, so they aren't completely embarrassed by again by another coach that doesn't want to come back to michigan. i just seriously think his comments about spending time with his underclassmen, loves it in b.r., family loves it there etc. i think he's pretty much made up his mind, he's not coming but he's gonna hear what they have to say out of respect. just my opinion.
I just read all the comments... Am I the only person who picked up this part: "I spent my day with a number of underclassmen, that I want to return right here. I am extremely happy..." etc. etc. etc.
Now, you can read that 2 ways: 1) There are a number of underclassmen that Les wants to return to LSU next year. If this were a written statement where sentences are clearly thought out, I might tend to lean towards this interpretation. But since it was spoken, I tend to think, that, 2) "I want to return right here" was a mid-sentence shift in thought. In other words, Les was saying "I spent my day with a number of underclassmen; I want to return right here. I am extremely happy..." etc. etc. etc.
And if you think about it, why would Les be saying that he spent his day with underclassmen who he wants to return? Isn't it assumed that most underclassmen on an 11-2 team will return the following year? I hate to say it, but I feel like the only way to interpret this is that Les is making a public statement that he wants to return to LSU next year. Now, as for how much of that statement is BS, I suppose can't speak to that.
i completely agree...it's like he was saying "i'm not going to michigan" without actually saying it. the only question is why doesn't he just say it...
It seems that Les is a strange person to begin with. If he wants to stay at LSU, why bother meeting with DB. It leaves a bad impression with LSU if he wants to stay there. He would just say I am not interested and love where I am.
DB also has enough information about Les. The interview or meeting would be just to close things out. I don't think an interview would change DB's mind. If he is doing this to please certain people then this search will not end soon.
All that said, even with LM's interview at the Cotton Bowl, which would make it seem like he wants to come here and it is a done deal. LM can chagne his mind. He is a total wild card. Maybe he thinks this is a game and practicing his 4th down tricks.
during the 2007 search?
This still sounds to me like Les hoping we will call and not wanting to take himself out of the running by saying he's staying. All of the rumors are coming from his side and use words like "would", "hope", and "expect". I'd be surprised if we're going after him, if only because it confirms Brandon is a total screw-up. If Miles was the guy he would have been in Ann Arbor days ago and it would have happened without all this bullshit speculation.
What about LSU's bowl game? And the press conference? How is Brandon not hiring an unavailable coach a screw-up?
In summary, Brandon is conducting his search and is screwing up for unsubstantiated reasons.
Congratulations, "bullshit speculation" == your post
How important were the BCS bowl games at WVU and Cincinnati the last few years? The answer is not at all. Miles was playing in a lesser tier game that meant essentially nothing and we'd be asking him to return to his alma mater, not leave it. Even if Brandon wanted to let Miles coach in the game, they would/should have a deal in place already if he's the guy, they shouldn't be maybe kind of sort of hopefully going to have a meeting tomorrow while Miles hems and haws in front of his current employers this far down the road.
Last time I checked, Miles is still LSU's coach. His responsibility up through last Friday was to prepare his team for his bowl game (something RR should have tried). If it came out that he was meeting with Michigan before his bowl and then his team lost, LSU would be pissed AND there would be no guarantee he'd have a job with Michigan. Again, this is a pretty standard way to handle having one job and interviewing for another.
It's possible Brandon pinged him one or more times between Gator bowl and last Friday, but if so, it's also possible Miles asked him to wait until after the game to meet. And I believe Brandon hadn't 100% made up his mind on Rodriguez until the result of the Gator Bowl and his meeting with RR. So the fact that he didn't hire Miles between Jan 1. and last Friday isn't unusual, it was really the most likely situation. Miles is now free to meet with Brandon and listen to his pitch without tipping his hand to LSU and looking like he wants out.
they did meet in 2007. which is one reason why i think that this time around he will handle it differently. the last coaching search was a big mess (kirk herbstreit) etc. and was embarassing to michigan. i hope i'm wrong, i for one would like to see miles in michigan. he may do some things wrong, but i don't know what more ppl could want. he wins games in the sec, won bcs championship, beat tressel, michigan man, great recruiter. i think if he can beat teams in the sec, he can beat big ten teams...once again, just my opinion
he has been at the top fo the SEC since he arrived. You can't say its sabans team forever? Miles can recruit, and I think kids buy into what he preaches. I don't care if he eats grass, as long as he doesn't smoke it (get caught smoking it anyway.......guy's still gotta live!) I hope he's our coach, and I think he has the best shot of all of them at retaining #16
When does anyone ever say anything but vague platitudes or meaningless jargon in a sports press conference? Why is everyone possibily reading so much into the specifics of what he means? What he means is that there are all sorts of complex negotiations going on and he can't just come out and say "yeah I'm pretty psyched to go for that Michigan job" at an LSU press conference in Baton Rouge. OF COURSE he's going to indicate that he wants to stay. But the fact that they're having an interview indicates that he isn't going to, if everything else lines up right.
Did he just say it's hard to speculate what the meeting would be about?
Here's my guess:
It's about Michigan's coaching vacancy.
That, or David Brandon has just been flying around to shoot the breeze with some former Michigan players/assistants/potential head coaches.
The Dominoes plane that Brandon has been traveling on is headed for Baton Rouge this afternoon.
Meeting earlier than expected?
Scheduled departure is 3:29 eastern from Dallas:
Is Les still in Dallas? Will the meeting be on the plane like in Bond movies? Because that would be awesome.
I was thinking the same thing after @chengelis tweeted it. Maybe they are sending the Dominoes plane to Baton Rouge to pick up Miles, as he is supposed to speak at the coaches conf. tomorrow. When he gets on what he thinks is just a normal plane (I assume they don't have a picture of pizza on the side or anything), DB is waiting on board. He pimp slaps Miles, telling him "that is for 2007", and then they start the interview/negotiations/consultation/grass eating.
Since I can't post a reply to the new main page post, can someone please tell me what's so "deeply weird' about what Miles said? Does he need to paint you a picture? And more importantly, would anybody in his right mind who's making a ton of money coaching a great team say to the media "Yes, I'm talking to Michigan about their job opening as head football coach?" Les is doing his due diligence responding to Michigan's supposed interest in him just like anyone else would. If they make him a good enough offer, he can accept, and if not, he doesn't have to behave in a way that's insulting to his current employer, especially if he doesn't end up at Michigan. This is a perfectly normal reaction to what's going on, just like Brandon is conducting a very ordinary coaching search, though people don't want to admit it.
Please keep the commentary useful or just stick to the reporting, you've made your feelings about Miles very clear.
Les gonna stay, cuz he knows he can't stay around my buddy Lloyd, who promised free cheeseburgers
And to think people doubted my ex-mascot source.
Hurry the F up, this S**t is getting old.
There is a team meeting tomorrow PM. Hopefully it is to announce our new hire.
I hope it is too. Not because I think speed is more important for the program than getting the right man, but mostly because I want this to be over because it is sapping my productivity. But if they are having an interview with a candidate now, they can't have a decision deadline of tomorrow unless they are down to two choices (Les and someone else) and the evaluation of the someone else has already been largely done (this screams Hoke?). If it's announced tomorrow it has to be Miles or Hoke I would imagine since no-one else has been vetted yet to our (potentially wrong) knowledge.
FWIW Pizza One is in the air.
Can we have a source of this alleged team meeting? I have found nothing on the interwebs. (not saying you are full of crap, just would like a source).
Also, if this is true, the timing is lining up very nicely for a halftime announcement during the MBB game when we take on our arch rivals.
"I can certainly understand Coach Miles' desire to accommodate his alma mater by speaking with them during their coaching search. We remain committed to working toward keeping Les Miles as the head of the LSU football program, a program that wins at a high level, graduates its student-athletes and represents the university well in the community under his leadership."
that's what i think miles is doing...accomodating his alma mater by speaking with them during their coaching search..and i think that's all he's doing. i still don't think he'll leave lsu but i hope i'm wrong
Something is not quite right in Baton Rouge. Seriously. The way that the whole Les thing is going down is COMPLETELY out of character for the way that this whole CC thing has been going.
Think about it - DB has had this thing hidden away in a steal vault, being driven in an invisible armored car. People in the AD's office don't know jack about the RR firing, the "short list," interviews, etc.
Now let's look at the Les thing. First, we have a confirmed interview. Confirmed by Les himself at a freeking press conference. Then we have LSU's AD issuing a statement a day about Les staying and praising Les for all the great work he has done.
I just don't get it. Either (1) Les and his AD are enjoying the same supply of grass (which Les is eating and his AD is smoking, obviously), or there is something going on.
The problem is that I can't figure out what that something is. Does this strange behavior make it more likely that Les is coming and that he and his AD are both doing their own weird version of negotiation / CYA via media? Or, is it more likely that Les is doing DB a solid by taking some public heat off of the real candidate, who will be revealed at halftime of the M-OSU MBB game - lights dim, DB confidently swaggers out to center court, "Ladies and gentlemen, Michigan faithful everywhere, Michigan football will be returning to glory and I am proud to introduce the man who will take us there." (fans erupt, lights flashing, hail to the victors breaks out) . . . "Ladies and Gentlemen - your new coach of the Michigan Football Wolverines - Bill Belichick!!"
Ok, sorry, I got carried away in a daydream brought on by too much F5 and not enough sleep. But you get the point. Could the whole public Les thing be a huge headfake?
but if Miles truly had no interest in the job wouldn't that be conveyed through agents/etc. without Miles having to meet Brandon and express that he isn't interested.
You're right though - until now this whole coaching search has been done almost under the radar and then BAM - it comes out that Brandon and Miles are having a meeting. I don't necessarily think it means Miles will be our next coach but I think Les is interested to hear what Brandon has to say.
If he truly wants to "accommodate his alma mater," he'll take the job. Otherwise both parties will be wasting their time.
I think the most straightforward explanation is that there is mutual interest here, but that it isn't set in stone. Miles needs to receive our offer and we may need to hear some things from him first. But if we are indeed meeting with him, I'd say the odds are pretty solid he'll be our next coach.
There is a team meeting scheduled for Tomorrow night. This was on the Scout.com website, michigan's home page. Is this to announce the coach?
i just listened to the head guy at tigerbait.com on the huge radio show and he said that les has told ppl that he's only meeting with michigan so that he doesn't embarrass Michigan. he also said that they are working on les's contract and it could be finalized tomorrow, possibly even tonight and then he may not even meet with michigan. in my OPINION maybe les has informed his players and his a.d. that he is interviewing with michigan but that he's not going anywhere. Maybe Michigan knows Miles isn't an option but they are interviewing him anyway to satisfy the fans who would completely freak out if they didnt at least interview him. who knows what goes on during coaching searches. but i'm not feeling too good about les coming to michigan
I really don't thnk Dave Brandon is doing anything in this search to "please the fans." To waste all of those alleged flights and waste time interviewing him while recruits are leaving would not be prudent.
......hopefully before Wednesday, which would be the one week mark.
I have to believe that Les is at least willing to listen, because it would be pretty dumb of both Brandon and Miles to waste time and energy on an elaborate, weekend-long gesture above the skies of Texas and Louisiana. I mean, come on, Dave, you have people waiting to hear "Habemus Coach".
Les wouldn't do this publicly if he's not interested but is just being polite. That makes no sense. He could have made the whole M thing a non-issue from the beginning - by simply letting it be known that he's fully committed to LSU. Who would have minded? This would have saved everyone time and avoided any awkwardness. To say you're taking a meeting is to turn on the spotlight.
Good to hear
Miles wins a lot of games and will hopefully righten the ship at Michigan, let's see how this plays out
My vaugly formed opinion of LSU fans have completely changed after stalking their message boards. I'm sorry if we end up stealing your coach, but you sound like people I'd love to have a beer or three with.
Is Miles a "home-run hire"?
I don't know.
He wins games, I suppose. I hope he can elevate our status. Michigan has pretty much been a regional program as of late -- yes, we put up 9 or 10 wins, often competing for a B10 championship, but nothing beyond that.
Right now, we need to be elevated just to get back to the level you describe.
woke up to hearing the news on sportscenter.I was hoping he was already hired,maybe just two more days.GO BLUE!!!
LSU may lower Les Miles' buyout of his contract.
Yeah. I don't know what that means. They say publicly that they will do everything they can to keep him, but would then waive their buyout, thus, making it easier for us to take him?
Perhaps their sights are set on Pelini OR maybe the Tigers have another coach they're ready to take?
I have confirmed there is a players meetin tomorrow at 4pm, but can't confirm what it's for.
Could be good news
I think DB already knows who he wants to hire and he is either talking to Miles about the person he wants to hire or is interviewing him for the heck of it. Technically we can't hire anyone until Wednesday, so it's possible he's just covering all of his bases.
Based on the report that Pinkel turned down an interview, I'd say that Brandon does not know who he is going to hire. Also, on WTKA they said that Michigan does not have to wait a week to hire a coach, so I don't think that is the case either.
Miles or Hoke.
If Bill Martin had just gone with his gut for his last hire instead of taking advise from some disgruntled alums/trustees we could have avoided this whole predicament. Less would have been three years younger eliminating the age debate, RR would have likely had more success and less stress taking another offer and everyone would have been fine and dandy
CoolBlue it! Les Miles is on the plane and will be in A2 tonight.
Perhaps some flashback unis and coaching lapels for 2011.