I think it's Weber.
well that's just, like, your opinion, man
I think it's Weber.
Up there it's "just football?" Seems like that's the only time I've ever heard that. Everyone else raves about Michigan's family first attitude.
I think he meant, playing football in the south is a bigger deal. In SEC schools football is't everything, it's the only thing kind of attitude.
Brian linked to this yesterday . . . Tennessee attendance
Year-Sold // Available for sale // Percent Sold // Season Attendance
2004 // 75,865 // 79,297 // 95.6 // 106,644
2005 // 75,753 // 79,297 // 95.5 // 107,593
2006 // 74,907 // 76,833 // 97.5 // 105,789
2007 // 74,380 // 76,833 // 96.8 // 103,918
2008 // 73,367 // 76,833 // 95.4 // 101,448
2009 // 70,194 // 76,833 // 91.4 // 99,220
2010 // 67,172 // 74,444 // 90.2 // 99,781
2011 // 61,665 // 74,444 // 82.8 // 94,462
2012 // 59,617 // 74,444 // 80.1 // 89,965
I think the answer is that those 89,965 fans are more "crazy" about their team. It's an SEC thing...nobody ever poisoned trees at Iowa or Wisconsin.
Sure... but no one will ever know how may Iowans have snuck over the border to tip Wisconsin cows only to sneak back through the bordering cornfields into the mist of the moonlight.
I was thrown by that comment at first as well. I think what he's saying is in Michigan it's just football, but at Tenn (or perhaps the SEC) it's FOOTBALL!
"up there" probably refers to the State of Michigan as a whole and not the school per say (e.g. down South football is everything "Friday Night Lights" style).
EDIT: Seems others had the same thought.
I don't think he was referring to the University of Michigan .. I think he was referring to football in the North vs football in the South in general. I believe he is saying up in Michigan football is just football but down South the fans have more of a passion and its much more than just football to them. I don't think that was a knock on our coaches or family atmosphere
but he's from Michigan and familiar with Michigan fans. There aren't as many northern states that take football as seriously as they do in the South, but I don't think there are any Southern schools that take it more seriously than Michigan fans. I'd add Ohio too.
With the exception of the kind of fandom which would make droves of people show up for SEC media days, which is just stupid, M fans don't take a back seat to anyone in terms of passion.
Maybe he watched Damien Harris play and is worried about being "the guy."
But . . . but . . . but . . . he'll only play in front of 89,000.
That formatting is incredibly annoying.
Fixed. I agree. I didn't down point you.
I'd love to keep the Cass Tech pipeline going, but RB isn't really a HUGE need for the 2015 class anymore. Plus we haven't been very lucky with RBs from Michigan lately.
Man, Cass really not like UM right now. Wonder if it's because everyone 'expects' them to go to UM.
To be clear we have taken 5 Technicians (Dawson, Lewis, Hill, Jenkins-Stone, Richardson, Hollowell) in the last 3 classes compared to missing out on 1 (Damon Webb).
Taken 5, but ended with 6? I'll take those odds!
I knew I should never have taken Differential Equations!
Players from two classes ago do not represent "right now". Right now, there are 3 Technicians with offers: Webb, Alabi, and Weber. One is committed to OSU, the others do not have UM on top.
My point is, I don't think the pipeline is closing any time soon, you know, since we have like 9 Cass boys on the active roster.
This seems appropriate: Lulu and Junior are exploring their entertainment options.
Oh well, not really sure what to think of this. We landed my top pick so I'm happy. Hate to see him not in blue but at least he didn't say Ohio was #1.
Was there more than 1 RB planned to be taken in the 2015 class?
assuming we don't get any RB's in 2014. Weber has always been mentioned at the other guy we had an "inside track" on. After this post, we may need a more definite plan B.
Our Plan B is Jacques Patrick.
Hoke has said we'll take multiple running backs each year. If we don't take one in 2014, it would be odd just to take one in 2015.
Any thoughts on the staff potentially skipping RB in 2014?
I know you've been very vocal about taking one QB in every class. Just curious if that sentiment extends to other positions.
Here's my thought:
Hoke has said he likes taking a RB in every class, maybe multiple RBs. That said, every year is a little different, and since we took 3 RBs in 2013, our 2014 class is small and we haven't see any attrition at RB lately like we have at other spots, it makes sense for 2014 to be a year to skip for RB.
Having Damien Harris in the fold doesn't hurt either.
It's possible (even likely) that one or two of the 2013 RB's will redshirt this year. That essentially puts them into the 2014 class in terms of remaining eligibility.
I agree that it wouldn't be a bad thing if Michigan had to skip a class at RB, especially with the pipeline of talent that is currently coming into the program. You don't ever want to get caught short but that doesn't appear to be an issue right now.
I did not expect this.
I don't see Webber being more than a depth guy who gets some mop up duty, similar to Rawls. With the top line guys we are bringing in right now I can't really fault the kid for looking around.
It seems to me that Michigan says to its players, "there's more to life than football," while the SEC says, "football is life." I can see the appeal to both if you're a football player.
Not to go all bucknuts but I have a very hard time believing this isn't about competition and feeling slighted by all the attention going to our 5 star pickups. There's nothing wrong with that either because you've got to get PT in college to get to the pros, but Weber was loving michigan last week for the very reasons he listed for UT. I was wondering how he'd feel about all our commits giving Patrick so much love and not him. I really think that's contributing here.
Bring on Jacques Patrick
has a chance to get onto the field in knoxville and good for him. Im no expert by any means, but his chances at Michigan are much less with some decent backs on scholarship.
Is Brady slipping on our connection with Cass Tech?
I hope not
Hoke is really a slacker.
Agreed. Especially between last Saturday and Monday!!
today. He is getting nothing done around here! We can't be sitting on our laurels!!!
I thought weber did get an offer? As far as Campbell I think people are just infatuated with him because he's from Cass Tech. I really don't think he's that spectacular.
not so much.
edit. wrong placement..nevermind
He doesn't fit. His big and athletic but his mechanics are all over the place.
If he decides to go to either of these schools. Either way he'll have to compete with Damien Harris or Jalen Hurd, both of whom are elite talents.
Will be interesting to monitor but its not like Hoke is recruiting scrubs.
If you're a top flight RB coming out of high school, I get avoiding a school with an entrenched superstar RB. But none of our guys he would be competing against has proven himself to be that as yet. If you have confidence in your ability, you go where you want to play and decide to compete. Tyron Wheatley didn't shy away from Michigan because Ricky Powers was already there, and he took his job away. If Weber has confidence in himself and wants to be at Michigan, he should go for it and compete for the top spot.
"Up there it's just football, but down here it means so much more. There's a different passion about the sport and I love that."
He's right. We don't have people who kill trees because their team lost a game. Southern pride!
Nope, we really care about the enviroment here - hence couch burning. <------STAAE Logic
for Brian Kelly
Better UT than MSU or OSU. EEEESSSSSS EEEEEEEE SSSEEEEEE
Did Weber accidentally visit the Curves in Ann Arbor and mistake it for Michigan's football facilities?
Lately Tennessee is the Illinois of the Big 10. They are the little sister. I'd rather be playing for the top team in their respective conferences than the average joes. I dont care how much passion they have, where do you have a better chance of winning a national championship. I'd say Michigan is far more closer than Tennessee.
Get on the bus or get run over. Go Blue !!
Championships are great, don't get me wrong, but there has to be more on the minds of these recruits than that. Now I don't know Mike Weber so this isn't necessarily what I'm saying he is thinking, but a big portion of their choice is probably based on where they can get the most exposure so as to attain their dream of playing in the NFL.
If I had to make a choice between a school where I would probably win a national championship but would be a back-up/role player as opposed to a school where I thought I could be the number one guy getting all the reps and having the opportunity to showcase my talents, but they had no hope of winning a championship, personally I'd choose the exposure and playing time.
Again, I'm not saying this is what Weber is thinking, I just wanted to point out that there is likely more that goes into a decision than "I think they will win a championship".
A dud at this point is rather silly. How about Gordon? He a dud too?
I don't think he is saying what you think he's saying. I thnk he just means that down south football is the be all and end all of life. Some people might like that, but personally I would prefer a place that has more going for it than just football. I don't have any hard feelings toward Weber for how he is feeling and won't regardless of his decision. He's a kid and people naturally have different thiings they look for when choosing a college, a home, a car etc. etc. etc..
And the timing is really interesting (a day after Damien Harris commits). With Harris already in the fold and considering the depth of talent at RB in 2015, I think Michigan will be just fine if Weber doesn't want to be a Wolverine. And if he decides to go elsewhere, better that it is out of state and out of conference.
I think I more concerned about losing Alabi or Cole than Weber for the instate 2015 kids.
this is a 2015, everyone remember. he has a long way to go.
we shouldn't overreact to his comments and be so thin skinned. we start sounding like the other fanbases we make fun of when their instate kids say they like UM or commit to us.
we are looking great at rb. he can come to us if he would like, and if not wish him luck.
Early rankings from 247Sports:
I'm not as disappointed as some about this. He's a good player but was never a program changer in my opinion. This recruitment is still far from over, I'm sure, but he's not an irreplaceable prospect if it doesn't go our way... Especially since he's not the only hope at RB in this class. Thanks for easing our minds Mr. Harris
"There's a different passion about the sport and I love that."
Phillip Fulmer must have shown Weber his Charles Woodson voodoo doll.
Who's he stay say us Northerners aren't passionate about football? That bs, I think about football 24/7.
The states of Alabama, Mississippi and Arkansas don't have any pro teams in any of the major sports. Football on the college and high school level is huge!
The entire state of Nebraska revolves around Husker football. I have not spent much time in SEC land, but I can not imagine another location more emotionally attached to one sports team than Nebraksa.
Yeah. Don't worry you can always check out SEC land and see how insane things can truly be.
A DT from Michigan a couple of classes ago said the same thing, and talking to SEC fans, they have all to a person pooh-poohed the GameDay experience in AA. Some of that is surely EESSS EEEE SEEEE BS, but I do think there is something to it and I certainly think he can get caught up in it. Hell, I remember watching the Charlie Daniels band in Memphis and he played Rocky Top, the crowd went wild and I have had a certain affection for the vols since then just because the whole thing was so much fun.
On the whole, there's a long way to go in this recruiting process and I'd say we should hold off on saying anything bad about the guy just because he's had a good time on visits and is reflecting that with enthusiasm.
"On the whole, there's a long way to go in this recruiting process and I'd say we should hold off on saying anything bad about the guy just because he's had a good time on visits and is reflecting that with enthusiasm. "
How about we never say anything bad about recruits simply because they don't choose our school? These kids are young and EVERYONE has different criterea for making decisions. Certain things aren't for certain people. I love my suburban, but I wouldn't make nasty comments about a person for buying a honda and saying they didn't like the suburban.
The bottom line is we can't get every recruit (regardless of the fact that Hoke seems to be doing just about that right now) and when someone doesn't choose us, just let them be. It's an important decision and we have know idea what they are using as criterea for making that decision. I'm sure it isn't anytihng personal against any of us, so we should stop taking it as such.
(I should say I'm not directing most of this comment at you, but those who always make such a fuss when a kid chooses someone else).
2015, right? And it's.... July of 2013? I'm not worried about who his #1 is right now. "There is time" is an understatement and this staff has everything in the world going for it.
Moving on for now.
and too many times we've been on the wrong side of the street. Such is college recruiting. I think Mi is his dream school, and I also believe he sees the writing on the wall. There is a very real possibility of him not getting offered by UM and IMO, in which I might be alone, I think its a move on his part to force a move on our part.
Does he not have an offer? For some reason I thought he did.
At least according to the major sites, so idk where people are getting that idea from.
No big surprise Michigan isn't really going after Weber that hard I believe he's 4th on the wish list if they even take another back besides Harris.