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Mike Martin likes Pop Evil...why can't you?

I found this on The Machine Shop facebook page and thought it was a pretty badass pic of him.  I'm kicking myself for not going to that show. They really do put on a good show, despite all the constant reminding that they come from West Michigan. 

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March 25th, 2012 at 11:08 AM | Because they are horrible. (Score:5 Normal)
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Because they are horrible. Really, very terrible and horrible in every way.

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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March 25th, 2012 at 11:38 AM | I wish (Score:1 Normal)
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I could give you plus a bazillion. But I can't so I will award you a bazillion hypothetical mgopoints

So hot.  Milk was a bad choice.

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March 25th, 2012 at 11:09 AM | Because musical taste is (Score:5 Normal)
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Because musical taste is subjective and their music makes me want to cut off my ears.
Also the generic wannabe Nickelback bullshit doesn't help.

David Brandon propaganda

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March 25th, 2012 at 11:13 AM | To each their own (Score:5 Underrated)
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That is the beauty of music.  Regardless, it's a sweet pic of him. 

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:53 PM | No.  This is not ok.  I (Score:5 Normal)
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No.  This is not ok.  As the inventor of music, I can tell you that this is not what I had in mind.  There are rules in music and you are not allowed to just ignore them when its convenient for you.  We are a nation of laws.

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March 25th, 2012 at 4:35 PM | There are (Score:5 Normal)
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also rules in spelling and grammar.

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March 25th, 2012 at 6:44 PM | Not anymore bro! It's 2012 (Score:2 Normal)
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Not anymore bro! It's 2012 and the world is going to end in 9 months!

Michigan FB, Michigan BB, Michigan HKY, 49ers, SF Giants, Sac Kings, Red Wings

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March 25th, 2012 at 7:20 PM | This (Score:-1 Normal)
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Would've been funnier if you had messed up and used "its." 

Also, stylistically, write out numbers ten or less. 

 

 

 

Thanks Thorin/Mgovideo for avatar

 

 
 
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March 25th, 2012 at 11:14 AM | OP has a point, you know.  (Score:4 Normal)
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OP has a point, you know.  "The players like it" is the catch-all excuse for wearing stupid uniforms, isn't it?  Anyone who's ever said that, IME, now has no choice but to accept Pop Evil, too.

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

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March 25th, 2012 at 11:17 AM | But is the music meant for (Score:2 Normal)
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But is the music meant for the players or the crowd?

David Brandon propaganda

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March 25th, 2012 at 11:25 AM | I could ask the same about (Score:3 Normal)
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I could ask the same about the jerseys.

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

- Mark Dantonio

Blogging the Virginia Cavaliers at http://fromoldvirginia.blogspot.com/<

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March 25th, 2012 at 11:27 AM | Why don't you whine about it (Score:0 Normal)
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Why don't you whine about it a little more.  I'm not sure we got the point the first time.

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:18 PM | This jersey debate kills me. (Score:3 Normal)
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This jersey debate kills me. Never thought that something so superficial (color of facemasks or numbers on the helmet) could cause people to bicker so much about something that deserves your undying support. Whatever is good for the kids is good for me.

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:30 PM | Good call (Score:1)
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Some people act like snobby bitches on here. They throw stones and live in a glass house.

[Caved troll is caved. Sorry, Mobile app users.]

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:39 PM | It's sad, some people care (Score:2 Normal)
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It's sad, some people care more about what the football team looks like than the school it represents.

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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March 25th, 2012 at 1:28 PM | "Why don't you whine about it (Score:1 Flamebait)
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"Why don't you whine about it some more?"

Oh wait....you mean that it's OK now to make a point more than once?  Who'd've thought.  Novel concept, really.  Guess I'll drop the Mean Girls act.

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

- Mark Dantonio

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:11 PM | I've never understood that (Score:2 Overrated)
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I've never understood that argument.

For one, we have no idea what the players like. Do you really expect those guys to come out and say "Pop Evil sucks" or "I wish DB would stop messing with the best uniform in sports"?

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March 25th, 2012 at 1:31 PM | Exactly.  I can't believe, (Score:2 Normal)
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Exactly.  I can't believe, for example, that 100+ college guys are unanimous on everything, even things like numbers on the helmets, and it wouldn't even be remotely healthy for there to be a public disagreement about it.

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

- Mark Dantonio

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March 25th, 2012 at 11:16 AM | You forgot the next picture (Score:5 Normal)
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Mike Martin destroys them in the next picture. You can tell by the looks on their faces they know it's coming.

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March 25th, 2012 at 11:18 AM | Because they make terrible (Score:4 Normal)
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Because they make terrible music?

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March 25th, 2012 at 11:21 AM | I guess this means (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm out of the running for the scholarship 

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March 25th, 2012 at 11:21 AM | Because they look like they (Score:3 Normal)
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Because they look like they belong in Bam Margera's entourage?

Rudy watches inspirational movies about Shawn Hunwick

 

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March 25th, 2012 at 11:24 AM | This reminds of an article I (Score:2 Normal)
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This reminds of an article I read where the drummer of The Black Keys was giving a half-hearted apology for ripping Nickleback. The comments devolved into BK vs. NB with NB supporters using record sales for their support. I found that logic akin to stating McD's is superior food based on volume sales.

Who is Jon Falk?
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March 25th, 2012 at 12:12 PM | I hate NB, but more people (Score:1 Normal)
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I hate NB, but more people willing to put their money where their mouth is seems like a good indication of popularity. 

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March 25th, 2012 at 2:05 PM | When does popular=superior? (Score:3 Normal)
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Popular is not always superior. Hence, why I used 'superior' based on volume sales, not 'popular'

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March 25th, 2012 at 2:51 PM | How do you determine (Score:2 Underrated)
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How do you determine superiority? Once again, I hate NB, but this is a snobs argument.

More people like option A, but they don't know that option A is inferior to option B. Therefore, the option B is superior to option A (bc I know better).

 

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March 25th, 2012 at 5:49 PM | Beyond the fact that one of (Score:2 Normal)
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Beyond the fact that one of your premises states that the more popular option is inferior to the less popular option, that is not his argument. I can give you an equally shallow and inadequate argument for popularity. Option A wins more accolades and collaborates with more musically talented and successful individuals, but more people with little musical background like Option B more. More people liking your music makes you superior Therefore, Option B is superior. Equally lacking. If no one ever heard any of Mozart's symphonies, would NB be better musicians than he was? No.

He also does not indicate that he knows better. All he was stating is that popularity is not always indicative of superiority. Superiority comes from complexity, depth, substance, appreciative value (popularity to an extent), rarity, uniqueness, innovation, etc. Popularity is a facet of it but not indicative of superiority. Do most people really have a grasp or understanding of music to really appreciate what makes some music better than others? No, well not really. Most (myself included) cannot tell you why Beethoven and Mozart were geniuses and most would either say they suck, they do not like that type of music, or that they can appreciate their talent but just do no understand classical music. People just have different interests and some music resonates better with them. That being said NB and Evil Pop suck.

"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:14 PM | While I agree with what you (Score:5 Normal)
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While I agree with what you are saying in general, your example makes the assumption that NB's music is more readily available than BK's, which isn't true.

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March 25th, 2012 at 2:14 PM | Disagree in part. While you (Score:1)
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Disagree in part. While you can certainly purchase both NB and BK on itunes etc. and listen to both on youtube try driving around most of America and listen to commercial radio, NB is played far more than BK. So while both are readily available, both are certainly not marketed equitable, not even close.

I know eventually it's about the fast  money for the suits (we are capitalists after all), but in 50 years the art is what will hold value. BK will be listened to by future generations far more than NB.

Sometimes I am just fed up with the over marketization of crap to our kids instead of real music artists. We now equate popularity with superiority and this is a slippery slope.

 

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March 25th, 2012 at 4:03 PM | But which came first? (Score:1)
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Oes it get more radio play then more people buy it, or do more people buy it, so it gets more radio play?

And really, most of the songs we listen to from 50 years ago was pretty popular then, too. The amount of "Citizen Kane's" that bombed originally but became classics is rare in most genres. Maybe no where more rare than music.

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March 25th, 2012 at 11:56 AM | I'll say it again (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm a blue hair and I really like them and the song.  How many teams have their own pep song?  Michigan has more songs than almost any university.  Go to a glee club concert and get a small selection out of huge repertoire.  Some may be outdated but they're representative of the time they're written.  The reaction in alumni section didn't seem at all negative.  Many I'm sure maybe indifferent.

Keep in mind that in the 60's the most popular local band was Bob Seger.   For those who remember Shakey Jake, another local star at the time was Washboard WIllie and His Super Suds of Rhythm.

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:21 PM | High School football (Score:1)
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When I was in High School we used Seger's "Heavy Music" and "2+2" to pump ourselves up.

"You're fat and you're mine".  Bo to Dan Dierdorf.

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March 25th, 2012 at 4:51 PM | 2+2 (Score:1)
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Has a great bass line. As a gray/ blue hair I love it. Anti- Vietnam song.

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March 25th, 2012 at 11:59 AM | Ask yourself:  In 20 years, (Score:0 Overrated)
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Ask yourself:  In 20 years, will this still sound good?

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:08 PM | What type of music can you (Score:-1 Flamebait)
coldnjl
Joined: 12/31/2009
MGoPoints: 2430

What type of music can you really say that and still think it sounds good? Not much. I would only say that IMO (I am 28), Sinatra, some Elvis tunes, and some 80s rock still have an appeal to me. 80s hair metal, disco, early rap, and all country not done by Garth Brooks sounds like garbage to me. 

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:11 PM | Still..... (Score:1)
Blue in Yarmouth
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They would have had to sound good in the first place in order to still sound good in 20 years....and they don't so the point is moot.

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:04 PM | I like them.  I am not 17 nor (Score:2 Normal)
coldnjl
Joined: 12/31/2009
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I like them.  I am not 17 nor do I wear black eyeliner. 

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March 25th, 2012 at 3:52 PM | Careful! I said in the Nickleback thread (Score:2 Normal)
NorthSideBlueFan
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After the Thanksgiving game announcement something to the effect that while they should not be playing the game, there is nothing wrong with pop-rock music if you understand that it is what it is, and that NB aren't so bad at that. A bunch of people then demanded I get the ban hammer!

People get real offended, real quick when you speak against the mob on these music topics!

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-Bob Ufer

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:09 PM | People are crazy.If you (Score:2 Normal)
redwhiteandmaize
Joined: 02/04/2012
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People are crazy.If you actually listen to their music and not judge them by what they look like then you might be surprised.

"Are you an official here?Because you've officially given me a boner."

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:23 PM | I did listen to it and the (Score:5 Normal)
joeyb
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I did listen to it and the lyrics are what bother me the most.

"In the Big House, we'll put your lights out! Come on and shout out!"? Sorry, it sounds like a 5th grader wrote this.

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:51 PM | In the Big House, we'll put your lights out! Come on and shout (Score:3 Normal)
Don
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That's right up there with the following sophisticated lyrics:

"Go right through for MSU,
Watch the points keep growing,
Spartan teams are bound to win,
They're fighting with a vim!
Rah! Rah! Rah!
See their team is weakening,
We're going to win this game,
Fight! Fight! Rah! Team, Fight!
Victory for MSU!"

I don't care what they look like or where they're from. The lyrics are juvenile and the music is warmed over metal.


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March 25th, 2012 at 12:29 PM | I don't care what they look (Score:4 Normal)
jhender85
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I don't care what they look like. I don't like them because "In the Big House" is as embarrassing of a song for U of M fans as "We Are Notre Dame" is to ND.

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:10 PM | Really, their problem is they (Score:5 Normal)
AlwaysBlue
Joined: 11/23/2008
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Really, their problem is they come from West Michigan?  That seems to be the least of the issues I have with them.

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March 25th, 2012 at 5:28 PM | I wish I could vote this up (Score:0 Redundant)
redhousewolverine
Joined: 08/17/2010
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I wish I could vote this up more than once.

"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:11 PM | I hate Pop Evil so much I would take on Mike Martin in (Score:5 Normal)
MadMonkey
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a cage match to give him the beat down he deserves for such bad taste.

/ Internet Tough Guy

Your opinion has no value.

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:24 PM | The guy behind Martin looks (Score:3 Normal)
joeyb
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The guy behind Martin looks like Kevin from The League.

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:25 PM | are you attacking (Score:0 Overrated)
energyblue1
Joined: 03/19/2010
MGoPoints: 281

the band itself or "in the big house" ............I don't listen to the band, "in the bighouse" I thought was good for converting a fight song into a rock theme that is still safe for little ears and the bluehairs..............  seriously what else are you going to do with it and keep it family friendly.....

All in all people take their music, I say that loosely, as personal as they do their sports teams, some even more personally.  Heck scroll through each band or vocalists videos on youtube and you see nearly as many haters as there are fans posting back and forth...and no shot at anyone on this board but music fans are as bias as any without regard for true talent when it comes to musicians.  I may not like many bands or artists per say but I do know who is talented and who is all show and little talent.....there is a major difference some understand nothing about music but know how to entertain, others are great musically but need tons of help to entertain...few are both....

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:29 PM | It pumps up the crowd. (Score:4 Normal)
DIABEETUS
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It pumps up the crowd. Apparently the players like it. The opposing team and fans surely don't like it. You should all stop being old and stupid and get over it. It's better than AC/DC, isn't it? It's all ours.

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March 25th, 2012 at 12:40 PM | I'm with you.  I don't know (Score:5 Normal)
mGrowOld
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I'm with you.  I don't know if it'll be back next year or not but i liked it.  I ESPECIALLY liked it when it was cranked up and played loudly over the screaming fans waving maize pom-poms immediately following the end of "UTL-11".

Anybody who was there and says they didnt get chills is either a liar, deaf or was passed out  That song was MADE for that exact moment.

 

 

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March 25th, 2012 at 3:44 PM | no chills (Score:5 Normal)
Beezy
Joined: 04/07/2011
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Definitely didn't get chills from hearing that song at the end of the game because I'm pretty sure I was yelling something along the lines, " NOOOOOOOOO DEAR GOD WHY".  We already have a song made for that moment called "The Victors".

In terms of OP, good for Mike Martin, but it doesn't change my opinion on the song or band.

 

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