Mike Heuerman Commits to Notre Dame

Yeah I forgot that they were looking for two TEs this year.  It would be nice to see some of these guys leave the midwest though. 

At first I agreed with you, but you took it a bit too far. I will not dispute that almost all of us over at 11w (probably 90-95%) wanted Heuerman, but I don't recall anybody saying that they preferred him to Baugh. We wanted both, but Baugh was already in so there was no talk of preference.

As to Jaylon Smith, Buckeye fans are no doubt salivating over him and willing to leave a spot open for him, but we've been told from the beginning that he is NOT a Buckeye lock. If you go over to 11w no one is expecting Jaylon to be a Buckeye. We certainly hope he is, but he seems to be leaning ND pretty hard.

But in general terms I think you have fairly represented the Buckeye community.

this is one of my favorite Urban Meyer/Ohio memes of late. But you both forgot, "If Urban would have wanted him, Urban would have gotten him." 

I heard Urban Meyer pulled that offer just this morning. 

Not to Butt in here, but we're gonna need to pace ourselves on the puns. 

It sounds to me like you're making a pretty big ass-umption there.

He does come in with a good amount of quality recruiting info, but hes been wrong with his classic "=====" like 3 times already this year.  What I cant stand the most (and its probably because I'm a diehard fan of the rival but...) is when he gives his big hoo-rah posts on how Urban Meyer WILL have the best class and IS the GREATEST recruiter ever.  But, I'm sure that is just to keep the nuts happy.

Just so many elite offensive lineman left to use that extra scholarship on.  Oh wait, no there's not, Michigan got 'em all.  Then again, every time a recruit chooses another school over OSU it does take a little sting off those scholarship reductions, I'm sure.  

How exactly do you know that the "information was legit." None of it came to fruition, and this is classic insider BS. The information was legit, but recruiting is fluid and things change. While absolutely true, this is also used as license to say practically anything you want; "when I told you, the information was rock solid, but how am I supposed to know what goes on in the head of a high schooler." 

No offense meant here (seriously), but when did Urban Meyer start caring about if his recruits were "good kids?"  I hope that was in jest because that's laughable.

Unbelievably, you seem to be an alright Buckeye fan, but even you know better than that.  You guys sold your souls to one of the only coaches slimier than Tresslon, and paid top dollar to do it, even though he was going to go there anyway.  Urban Meyer doesn't give a rat's behind about kindness.

Well the problem is that eventually ND is going to stumble by accident into an acutal good coach that will turn all that underdeveloped talent into a great team.

I know we've done well against ND lately in terms of wins and losses, but let's not pretty we've blown them out every year.  The last three years, ND might have been one big recruit away from beating us each year. 

I'd like to get to the point where we beat up on ND even when the breaks don't go our way.  I'm not saying we won't get there, but we won the last three by the skin of our teeth, and needed some things to go our way to get there.

Well one more big play by them each of the last 3 years against us and they would have 3 wins instead of 3 losses against us... so I would say these things could make a difference, yeah.

In the last 5 years, we are 35 and 28 with two bowl wins and one loss. They are 32 and 31 with two bowl wins and one loss. In the last 6 years though, we are 42 and 34 with 2 bowl wins and losses; they are 42 and 34 with 2 bowl wins and losses. According to your measurement, we are barely more relevant than they are.

Yes, we might not have wanted one. I based that off the speculation that Ace and Aquaman (or whoever it is that runs their blog) had about the TEs and the fact that we were offering more after we got the two committments. However, we stopped offering other TE's and those we were still pursuing picked other schools, so maybe we really weren't that interested in another TE. With us turning away LB's (from visits) after we seemed likely to land Gedeon, I thought we would have just told the other TE's we were still full and not recruited them any more.