An interesting tidbit of info from the Super Bowl Media Day. Mike Hart's future plans include coaching with a goal to one day be the Head Coach at Michigan.
Mike Hart wants to coach Michigan
Although it's hard for me to envision him as a HC, I'm sure Mike Hart will not throw Lloyd Carr under the bus in order to promote another program he happens to be coaching at the time.
Like it or not, there's a reasonable chance the Jim Harbaugh will be the HC at Michigan some day (could be as soon as November 28th). If that happens, there's a zero chance that Mike Hart will be on his staff.
We have to wait seven more months to see how this all plays out.
If Michigan can forgive and forget with Harbaugh, Harbaugh can forgive and forget with Hart. I always though Hart would make a good coach. He has a ways to get before he can be a head coach, but imagine his enthusiasm towards beating Ohio State.
I hear you.....but enthusiasm can only go so far. I'm pretty sure that Mike was enthusiastic in his previous four outings against OSU but his record is still 0-4.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against Mike Hart. I just thought that he talked a little too much during the latter part of his career, particularly about OSU.
Mike did his best to back up his words, though. It's not his fault in any way that we lost those games.
I haven't forgotten what Harbaugh said. He's dead to me.
don't think he would throw a former coach, and the former coaches players, under the bus, by complaining about the lack of talent, or bare cubbards, after every loss. Like it or not, the factions that want to blame the other side for whatever rift exists, should realize that there is blame to go around on all sides. For the record, I want RR to suceed, this year, next year, and how ever many years he is our coach, just as I wanted previous coaches to succeed.
Hart has always had his head on straight. As much as it pains me to be pro-Colts I'm rooting for Hart to get a TD in the Super Bowl and a ring. Ideally Hart comes back when Jackson retires and works his way to HC.
But Michigan doesn't recruit 3* coaches!
Not sure of the timing, but if Fred Jackson leaves soon the position of RB coach would be open. We know he'll value protecting the football and with his mouth and energy he would appear the ideal recruiter.
We know he'll value protecting the football
Except in bowl games in Florida.
Everyone knows he did that just to keep the game close. He even laughed about it on the way back to the sidelines one time.
All the more reason that he gets a Ring this Sunday, so he can come back and show it off to all the future prospects as a coach.
If I'm not mistaken, Tyrone Wheatley is coaching RBs right now at EMU, and I believe he has expressed some interest in coming back to UM as well. I dont know if Hart will be ready to jump into the position of a full time position coach as soon as he hangs up his NFL dreams, but Wheatley may take that position, allowing Hart to start as a Graduate Assistant, and eventually move on to that position. I am just salivating thinking of the affects that Hart could have in the living rooms of future recruits.
Two of the greatest to ever play for Michigan. I am thinking we would be blessed not only from the player stand point from also from the recruiting stand point. What do you think young RB's around the US would think having either one of these Ex-players in their living rooms recruiting them. I don't know about you, but I would be SOLD.
Hart as a RB coach would be great.
Say goodbye to fumbles.
If the RB coach position isnt open, we should create the Holding the Ball coach position for him.
For Woodson in the secondary?
Guaranteed to be the best press conferences of all time. Especially his annual attempts to make Sparty fans' heads explode.
Can you imagine him meeting Dantonio to shake hands after a game? It would make the Bobby Williams - Carr thing look like a warm embrace.
Except that by the time Hart would (hypothetically) be experienced enough for the HC position, Dantonio would be long gone.
I hope that some day he is able to fulfill his goal. I think he'll be ablt to at least be a RB coach someday at Michigan. It's hard to tell if he'll be able to work his way up to HC, but who knows.
Plain and simple. I'd welcome him in any capacity with the Michigan football program.
was a winner in almost every respect except his record against OSU. I love him, but the end of the day, that is a big part of how a Michigan football player is measured. I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.
Hart is a great guy and was a very productive hard working player at UM, but to be called a "winner" I think you have to, like, win. 0-4 against OSU, 1-3 in bowl games (with the win in a lesser New Year's Day bowl), and 2-2 against Notre Dame teams coached by Tyrone Willingham and Charlie Weis.
Hopefully he can do a better job of winning if/when he ever coaches at Michigan.
And given that Hart played offense, defense and special teams - and was completely healthy all four meetings - this argument is completely legit.
Hart scored only three TDs in the 2006 OSU game. What a loser!
Maybe this is an issue of semantics. When I read the word "winner", I assume the writer is describing someone who regularly wins. When describing an athlete, especially a team leader playing a marquee position, I take it to refer to someone whose team regularly triumphed in big games. Guys like Tom Brady, Emmit Smith, and Joe Montana were/are "winners" by this definition. Fran Tarkenton, Barry Sanders, and Dan Marino (despite being fantastic hall of fame players) are not. Michigan went 3-9 in their biggest games (OSU, ND, Bowl) during Mike Hart's career. His teams never beat their chief rival.
If by "winner" you mean pretty good player and all-around great guy who one time scored three TD's against OSU, then yes, Mike Hart is a "winner." If you are using the word like everyone else does when describing athletes, then it doesn't fit at all.
Then again, I'm sure Mike was dragged down having to play with guys like Henne, Long, Edwards, Breaston, Manningham, Arrington, Woodley, Hall, Crable, Burgess, Branch, Jackson, Baas, Avant, Harris and the handful of other NFL players he shared the field with.
I see your point with the 'winner' analysis; however, the list of great players you mentioned reflects more upon labeling the coaching staff as winners.
Do you remember the OSU games in question, and Hart's role in them, or have you purged them from memory aside from the fact that we lost? I can't blame you if that's the case, but allow me to refresh your memory.
In the 2006 OSU game, against the #1 team in the country, Hart was fantastic - 139 yards and 3 TDs on 23 carries. He ran like a man possessed. He was the best player on an offensive unit that scored 39 points. It is not even remotely his fault we lost that game.
I also have an awfully hard time blaming him for the 2005 and 2007 games, given that he hardly saw the field due to leg injuries both times.
Hart was healthy for the 2004 game, so I guess you could fault him somewhat for that one, but I'd put more blame on our D for allowing a pedestrian offense to score 37 points (and prevent Hart from getting many carries in the second half).
I was at the 2006 OSU game with endzone seats looking at exactly what Hart saw and he played an unbelievable game that night. I've said over and over again he was a good player and an even better worker/person. I didn't say it was his fault UM lost any of those games. That still doesn't make him a "winner." Winning makes you a winner. That is what the word means.
If Dan Marino, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone, Fran Tarkenton, Barry Sanders, and countless other great players don't get to be called winners (and they don't by my definition), then Mike Hart certainly doesn't. If they all do, then we might as well just start giving trophies to everybody like in youth soccer.
Cue the "Fire RichRod, hire Mike Hart immediately" crowd.
Come on, you know there will be idiots out there who will actually say that.
Oh, and for the record, I hope Mike Hart is the Head Coach of Michigan one day. I can't wait for that to happen in 20 years.
In 15 years after RR steps down, with 9 Big Ten titles and 3 NC's, I am all for Mike Hart as HC.
you mean 15 Big Ten Titles and 15 NC's.
Both on and off the field. It would be an honor to have Mike as part of the Michigan coaching staff when his playing days are done.
Michigan and Colts fans might be the only fan bases on the planet that think Mike Hart is a classy individual. If Kalen Lucas called Michigan MSU's little brother in basketball would you think that was a classy statement?
When I think of Mike Hart I think of a lot of things, such as whether or not he can ride all the rides at Cedar Point or how many players had more fumbles in a game last year than Mike Hart did in his entire career. He was great for us, but "class" is the last thing that comes to mind.
He is too short and slow to coach.
...he didn't go to an EES-EEE-SEE school then ;)
I can't believe what has happened to our coaching recruiting. We need to start hiring 5 star coaches. A walk on as a head coach and now we are adding another 3 star to the staff. Ridiculous.
Its all about pad level
He certainly is not fat enough to coach ND.
His future was always in coaching, although he has been playing an increased role with the Colts.
It would be great to have him coaching at Michigan--and would piss off MSU and OSU fans to no end.
I ALWAYS thought that Hart would be back as a coach. I just had a feeling. To have that confirmed as his goal is awesome.
is good enough for me. Hart always did the little things that made a RB great and if he can translate that to younger players he will be a great RB coach and with time and experience an OC then HC. I would be excited to see him as a recruiter also.
According to all the coach recruiting sites I subscribe to and live by, he is listed as a 2-star coach. I think we can do better...
I did say that.
I have always said that Mike Hart would make an awesome RBs coach, and for now, that should be his goal. It's baby steps, but RBs coach isn't a bad start.
IMO, Mike Hart will become the equivalent to what Muschamp is at Texas, the Head Coach in waiting
The guy was as fundamentally sound a back as they come -- didn't put the ball on the ground, read the right holes, blocked well (especially given his size), always seemed to fall forward and/or fight for the extra yardage. All the things you can teach he was great at. It allowed him to play four years very well at Michigan and make the NFL despite not being the ideal sized back and not having ideal speed either.
Presuming he's able to communicate those things to players and show them how it's done (and I don't see any reason he wouldn't be able to -- he was a vocal leader on the team and came off as a guy who could communicate well), sounds like a reasonable choice as a running backs coach to get him started in his coaching career.
And I concur that he could be a dynamite recruiter for Michigan. His enthusiasm would really shine on the recruiting trail, especially as a four-year player who graduated and then went to the NFL. I suspect both parents and players would really like him.
and his linemen loved him. One of them was always there to help him to his feet.
I prefer to think that he blocked "violently". Especially during the Oregon game when he was pissed off. He would just tee off on the poor oncoming blitzers.
Let's be honest, none of you want Mike Hart as a coach. He'd revert our offense to the days of Lloyd Carr and everyone in this forum would complain that we only win 10 games a year again.
Not to mention that he and Coach Loeffler would need 3 years to bring in their own recruits. No way Michigan fans tolerate so many years of futility.
Alright, hit me back Fox News!
Hart can teach our RBs how to hold on to the ball and Braylon can teach our WR to catch the ball...wait, nevermind.
I heart Hart
There was an article in The A2 News a few years ago when Hart was at Michigan where he talked about wanting to coach the team some day. It may have been about Wheatley, too, since he had just started coaching. I just remember Fred Jackson saying he could tell which players would go on to be good coaches because when he teaches them, they don't just do what he says, they pick his brain and want to know why they're doing what they're doing, and that in all his years the two who did it most were Wheatley and Hart and that's why he felt they would go on to become good coaches some day.
It's great to hear Hart continue to say that he wants to coach here one day, that it wasn't something he was just throwing out there, but he really meant it. That kid bleeds maize n' blue and would take a bullet for this program, and hopefully we will see him on the sidelines again in the future.
Yeah this is nothing new. All good but nothing we didn't already know.
I <3 Mike <3
Is Sheridan trying to go into coaching like his Dad? I think he'd make a great coach.
I seem to recall having a discussion about this on Haloscan back in the mgoblog 1.0 days.
Aren't we grooming Sheridan to be our future head coach? No? That's what he's here for right?
is for Hart to learn the Colt's offense under Manning for the next X years, then come to Michigan and study the spread under RR.
He'd have the Lloyd, Manning, and Rodriguez schools of offense. Wow!
Called "Michigan Man." I recorded it a couple years ago in my living room.
First verse is actually about Henne and the 2nd verse is about Hart. Talks about how they were both from other states but decided to become "Michigan Men." References "Syracuse born kid with the big IQ/ Runs wall to wall sometimes straight thru."
First song on this myspace page:
Mike was LONG after my time on campus. I recall his one really bad attack of the sparky mouth.
Anyone know otherwise what sort of leadership he has?
How about planning ability and playcalling?