Ohio State or Nebraska seem like the easy choices?
Peppers at 10, which seems low.
Ohio State or Nebraska seem like the easy choices?
You want to hold a night game in Ann Arbor in late November? They'd better rig the benches with those heaters from the Big Chill.
A week argument on B1G's part, at The Game last year it was still fairly warm, I like The Game to kickoff at noon though. Has to be ND again or RR's rival Indiana. Minnesota should be better next year....
So your rebut to a "weak argument" from the B1G regarding bad weather is to reference one data point?
Do you want an essay? You want a 40 page post? It's a blog response not an inauguration speech. Went with the most recent data. It's not like you provided any data. Just a smartass response.
His point is that the ohio game my freshman year was 20 degrees and sleeting. Just because it was warmish last year doesn't mean it won't be really, really cold this year.
The point Bill, just didn't think it was necessary to look back at the past 40 years to prove a point to bloggers. It's not like the game is played mid-December and we live in Green Bay for goodness sake. We are talking about football....that can't be played in colder weather? And your point about the game your freshman year being played in the sleet isn't effective because I'll bet it didn't deter 100,000 people from coming out nor did it disappoint any of the players. The fact that the B1G won't play night games in November is one of the many examples why this conference is always late to the "dance'.
Brandon has stated that we will not have any night games between us and Ohio St. Plus, the Big Ten does not allow night games that late in the season.
Is true. Second statement is false.
You want those scarlet and gray screaming idiots running around here, AT NIGHT?
It's bad enough when they come and are around during the day.
Its either ND, Nebraska, or Ohio. Night games in November? Does that happen? Wasn't there some stupid B1G argument against this??? Or just myth....???
Big Ten does not have night games in November so Ohio and NU are out. That leaves ND and Minnesota.
I hope that on the front, it says "Go Blue" and on the inside, it says "That's right, Bitch!"
Given a quick glance at the schedule, there's pretty much only one "special" opponent that fits the Big Ten's night game constraints (no night games in November).
Our home schedule in September and October is Central, ND, Akron, Minny and Indiana. Either Minny or Indiana is likely to be homecoming, as they seem to like to do that in October, so that's out, and neither really meets the "special" criteria, unless Brandon really wants to hype up the Little Brown Jug.
The answer is obvious.
I was thinking the same thing.
AKRON OR BUST.
Terry Bowdoin must pay.
He already paid for the naming right of Bowdoin College, apparently.
Minnesota is homecoming game next year, so it is very doubtful they will make that the 8pm game.
Fear the Roo!
YES!!! We need to publicly humiliate them in Prime Time for hiring Tressel... as "Vice President of Strategic Engagment"(don't worry, I had to google his title)!!
If we play at night against Ohio State, I'll eat my hat. And I really like my hat.
If you really like it, why wait for an excuse?
Because he wants to have his hat, and eat it too! But he's wise enough to know these are mutally exclusive!
Every year, people ask about the timing of the OSU game, which is bizarre because every year since at least the 1970s, it's been at noon, other than 2006. So unless OSU and Michigan are 1-2, the game will be at noon.
But the 2005 game was at 1pm.
But I agree with your post. It'll for sure be at noon unless OSU and Michigan are at 1-2.
9/21: @ UConn
Sure we are at PSU and Msu.
Added the @'s at the end and apparently got distracted.
PSU and MSU are both road games.
Call me whatever you want, but I really wish we had that schedule this season (in Denard's senior year). I'd be thinking 11-1 - or maybe even better - rather than the 8-4 or 9-3 that seems more likely this year.
Do you prefer, "whatever you want" or "Mr. whatever you want"?
Ok, everyone beat me to the corrections.
It's too bad we'll be breaking in a new QB and likely 3/5 of the offensive line (if Lewan leaves) because that's about as easy as our schedule gets.
MSU comes here two years in a row?
It seems like it has to be ND again.
We play in South Bend @ 7:30pm this year too. If ND ends up being the night game in 2013 then it could be the start of something we see every time we match up.
Thanks for posting this. Here are my two (six?) cents...
On the slippery slope thing:
That's after a month of rest. If anything, wouldn't you expect guys to be more beaten up at the end of the regular season / conference championship game?
On the Appy State game:
My impression of Brandon's scheduling philosophy is that he'll do whatever he can to generate a little extra interest, especially for those cupcake-looking games. In some cases, that will probably be cool (e.g., a game against a service academy and, who knows, maybe one of those HBCUs with a bad-ass band). In this case, it's just annoying and gimmicky.
I'm sure that I'm in the minority on this, but I really like that game. It'll give next year's team a taste of a road environment without, hopefully, presenting too much threat of an actual loss. From a competitive, non-$ standpoint, I think it's an almost ideal out-of-conference game.
I just want to play them two more times. I won't die a happy man unless we have a winning record against Appalachian State.
And a road game against a by then deteriorated PSU team doesn't accomplish the same thing?
Problem with moving the UConn game is that there's no better stadium option within Connecticut, so moving the game, would almost certainly entail taking the game to the Meadowlands or Foxboro. Getting that through the state legislature (loss of income to local business and sales/hotel/restaurant taxes to the state) would seem a non-starter.
I hope we just keep it there (and certainly hope we don't pull out of the game). It's a small stadium (40,000). We don't get the revenue anyway. Who cares.
It's going to be a tough ticket if it's there, though, given the alumni base in the Northeast. I just checked and this year's UConn season tix go for as low as $96 for the season. If they stay that low, might be worth just buying the whole season in 2013 rather than buy tix on the secondary market.
B10 rules prohibit night games in November. So, unless the nation suddenly craves a night game against Minny, Indiana, CMU or Akron, the choice has to be ND again. Which is all well and good, but can't we mix it up a little? Nobody wants predictable.
Might it be possible to get a one-time waiver for Nebraska? I doubt OSU would go for the switch -- unless they could be allowed to do the same the following year. But once the league starts making exceptions, everyone will want one.
So. Could it be that Brandon is trying to wriggle out of the UConn game?
I'll be upset if they play Ohio st at night.
edit - no night games in November, thank you!
The PSU situation shows how silly that is. Landscapes change in college football. Should have just done straight geographical and lived with the consequences. Would have made scheduling better for everyone.
So will they ever re-seed the divisions?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that be some sort of NCAA violation. You could just tell recruits 'Hey, if you come here, and if things don't go the way you plan, then we will give you some money'. It's not that I don't agree with it, I do think it's a good idea, I just don't see how te NCAA would be okay with it.
"hey, we raised some money, here's a check." If they're starting programs for career and health care guidance, as well as other issues former athletes face, it could be ok.
Isn't that what their degrees are for?
PSU seems as though they might be "special" enough to please Brandon for the night game.
We play at PSU
No way we do 3 straight night games with ND
I don't think you can rule out ND just because it would be 3 years in a row against them. Brandon wants an annual night game at the Big House, and it won't be in November. Not every year do we schedule marquee opponents like Bama(sure we'll throw in many respectable opponents like UCONN, Utah, and San Diego St, among others), but often times Notre Dame will be our best OOC opponent. That generally only leaves you with one or two other options. For all we know, Brandon could be working with their AD to make this an annual night game to build off of the tradition of this rivalry. Maybe that was why ND happened to schedule it as a night game this year dispite it being a night game last year.
Just speculation though, and if that's NOT the case, then it will more than likely be the Minny game for the LBJ. Nothing wrong with that, it will just bring back memories of the Friday Night game in '03
since that's homecoming.
I would imagine it will be Minnesota little brown jug game. Longest battle for a trophy, tradition, history....everything DB wants and likes. Not the best opponent for a night game, but I think it will make the game much more exciting.
Its Minnesota...who should be a lot better....or DB is going to try and get out of the UCONN game and replace them with another team.
Agree on this. Little Brown Jug and first conference game. Shame it's "just" Minnesota- first conference night game at Michigan Stadium against the likes of Nebraska or Penn State would've been cool.
I'd love to see M/OSU played later in the day/night. The traditional noon start-time, although a nice bow to tradition, is outdated and tends to mute the overall excitement and exposure. Noon, to many fans, screams "regional matchup." Not as many people watch nooners, especially in the Western half of the country, where the game gets about as much hype as Harvard/Yale.
And noon crowds -- even during big game -- tends to be quieter. Or more sober. But still. Note the difference between last year's games against ND and OSU. Both were great crowds. But the former scene was louder and more intimidating right out of the gate (even though ND outplayed M in the first half). Night games -- the lights, primetime TV, the beer -- get everything to 11. And that's what you want during the biggest game of the year. M/OSU should be the national game of the week.
In total agreement, but with the current powers that be, a Michigan-Ohio night game just won't happen, unless they meet in the BTCG. And even then, I'm sure Bo will turn over in his grave when both teams play for the title at night.
I think this policy will change overtime, as the younger generation, as a whole, prefers night games, while the old guard clearly doesn't. But for now, its just not in the cards. They worry too much about people drinking all day, and opposing fans leaving the campus in an absolute wreck. That and the whole weather thing.
I'd be interested to know which party decided the "do shows along the way" option was viable. Because from the MMB side of things, I don't know how you do a Band Week with the performance block on the road during game week and put a block together, and a show on the field, for Week 2.
Go to class on a return trip if you're doing shows along the way.
Really hoping its not another Notre Dame matchup. I think it'd start to get a little stale. Unless Minnesota somehow drastically improves over the next year and gets into Big Ten title consideration, they would be a waste of a night game. I abhore the idea of an Indiana night game. Ohio night game will obviously never happen, but I'd probably poop myself if it did happen. Nebraska would be great at night. If the conference can get over its BS "no night games in November" policy, I think that'd be a great night matchup.
at night AGAIN is not special. I'd honestly rather see the Little Brown Jug game at night.
I think the no Sparty night game thing is ridiculous and the safety/vandalism concerns are WAY overblown. If Sparty fans are that bad why even play the game?
Secondly, why not play Air Force at night? Why does it have to be this amazing opponent? That qualification, plus the no November night games and the no sparty night games basically limits our night game opportunties to two teams every two years (ND and Nebraska).
Anyone who was at UTL knows how magical the experience was (even in the first half when we were getting pounded)
Because it would make it a primetime game and no network in their right mind would showcase that prime time slot to Michigan pounding out UMass or any other mid to lower tier team with no national following (why nd applies).
I think the "no night games against Sparty/Ohio" has more to do with concern about how our fans are treated over there. I don't think it's so much an issue of how they'd behave here, but if we have a night game here, then we have to agree to one there.
I don't know about East Lansing at night, but I definitely would not want to be in Columbus for a night game.
If we absolutely have to keep playing ND every single goddamn year, then I wouldn't mind starting a new tradition of playing them at night.
Notre Dame again, it's the only early season game that is truly big and would have a National following. Minny not a big game outside of Michigan fans and the 8 people in Minnesota that still have tickets. PSU and IU not worth mentioning and other games too late in the season.
it won't happen because: 1) Brandon won't play MSU at night, 2) It has to be a "special opponent", and 3) the Big 10 does not allow night games in November that basically leaves 1 night game against ND every two years.
I think that is ridiculous but that is the corner DB has painted himself into with his scheduling decisions.
Do we have to orient our entire program around the alleged desires of recruits? Night games should be a rare event. For people who drive a few hours to get to the games, night games can be problematic. The UTL game was awesome, but driving home at 2 in the morning wasn't. I would not want to do that more than once a year.
Should do Notre Game nigh game part 2.
there is a longstanding tradition of OSU at noon, but I would love to see a night game against them. A cold night won't stop us from coming out to watch an OSU game, and the atmosphere would be electric. A night series against Notre Dame is also a good option though. I would also really like to see Michgian hosta big name out of conference opponent at night to open the season. How does the mgoboard feel about multiple night games in a season?
INDIANA at night. WOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
We should play a big football program, like Wisconsin or Iowa. ND would be like playing Yale or Harvard. Those schools were good many years ago, but are dead now.
I about rolled off my chair laughing.
I'm hoping for an exemption and it's Nebraska. Would be of huge national interest and they have a pretty well-mannered fanbase. Still early in Nov as well.
C'mon DB, make it happen.
(and I, too, am not in favor of playing them in a so-called UTL II), Nebraska is the only game on the present 2013 schedule that is big enough to be considered for a prime-time start. I'd love to see it happen; I'm sure the B1G "policy" of no November night games is one that is not so set-in-stone that it can't be waived for a game of that magnitude.
If it's not ND or Nebraska? Then my money is on Brandon secretly having something in the works to replace Akron on the schedule with a big-name opponent.
Feel like I've made this exact same post two or three dozen times.
There is NO current policy from the Big 10 prohibiting November night games. None. While they don't generally encourage it, and TV contracts/rights ultimately mostly determine when games are played, the conference does not have an unequivocal rule preventing a night game in November.
That being said, I don't think you see it happen. But the fact remains the conference does not prohibit it from happening.
That it's in their TV contracts that unlike other times, tv can't "make" them play a night game. Both home and away teams have to agree to it, as well as tv wanting it.
Edit: here is is as of 2010-
They should not schedule ND again. Nebraska is a good possibility. I would like to see Minnesota on a Thursday or Friday at night. If that is possible.
This is not the Big lEast.
why would we play a thursday or friday game?
Somebody's got a cravin' for some MAC-tion.
What about on August 30, 2014. Michigan vs app state at night to open the season? Mommy and Daddy better tuck the kids in early, because the app state heads will be rolling this time.
Uh...the schedules are filled through 2016. Good luck with that. Maybe on EA NCAA Football.
I hope he comes though and Michigan can smoke his ass.