Michigan vs. Wisconsin Basketball Open Thread
At work will be watching on my phone via espn3 (stupid work blocking illegal streams). Go Blue!
If you have ESPN3 access on your phone, why can't you watch it on your computer? It's not an illegal stream!
No flash player on the computer :( (I realize this probably would also hinder a firstrow stream)
Doesn't carry ESPN 3 and it appears that Front Row Sports for the first time in history is not carrying the game.
Anyone have a link to the stream?
Watching it on my iPad. Stupid Comcast.
Hopefully their student section is still asleep.
they're already drunk
Bounce passes to McGary all day followed by a SLAM!
Just set a fake laughing record, demolishing the prior one held by the CBS nfl guys
Go Blue! Beautiful, sunny winter day in Michigan.
Timmy, Stauskas, Robinson III raining 3's on this hideous pack of badger/gingers
And apparently ESPN3 is blacked out in my area....damn you ESPN!
I'm an old fart. I've been up for over six hours. The damn game is going to cut into my Saturday afternoon nap.
Can people stop saying that Trey is 'arguably' the best point guard in the country yet?
need a link, firstrow's is not working.
It's already a victory with no Vitale.
We On? WE ON!
Alright ready for a tempo and whiteness level that rivals my middle school team.
Get Horford out
Okay, think we should abandon the give Horford the ball strategy now
Um, where was the foul?
Anybody have a link to this game besides firstrow and watchespn?
That Brusewitz guy has driven me crazy the entire time he's played there
More cutting to the basket without the ball. More Trey Burke iso drives. More exploitation of their slowness.
First look of the Flopping Badgers today
LOL @ Wisconsin's "transition" game.
Second Badger flop
still on a roll....
Horford sucks. Undersized, bad hands, can't pass when he's double teamed. rather have a hurt morgan.
No you wouldn't. He was trash playing hurt against Ohio
We have another option...his name's Mitch.
isn't he the tallest guy on the team?
Jeez. I hope Morgan will be back by Tuesday.
I notice that opponents answer our 3s more than we answer their 3s.
Wisky's team is so damn whiny
We need to push the pace in this game and not played to their slow as shit tempo.
This game is too early for horford. Struggling mightily.
good start so far. hopefully horford and mcgary can find a way to draw some help down low
Horford hasn't finished well at the bucket these last few games, whether it be on an offensive put back or a play that's actually run through him.
Injured Morgan OR mcgary >>> horford. Also we have no inside offensive game.
How does Wisconsin win as much as they do? I guess I know enough about basketball to recognize how bad their offense is and too little to recognize how good their defense is? But they look sooo bad.
at home sure helps their cause.
at home sure helps their cause.
Wisconsin sure does know how to take all the fun out of watching basketball
To the backup
But Wiscy tends to make all teams look that way...
It's nice of Wisconsin to give Little Orphan Annie a scholarship.
2 big line up in!
with 2 bad defensive plays already
Letting Wisconsin dictate the pace of this game is not a good thing for us...
C'mon Beilfeldt, pass that one back out don't go in 1 on 4
God Wisconsin is painful to watch.
Than we do right now.
7 min in for the Sullinger reference.
I like the 2 bigs!
i'm not sure i've ever seen a collective group of big guys so bad around the basket. all of them have zero confidence down low.
Cover the 3pt line!
Not good to see that our defensive rotations haven't gotten any better
How come opponents have like 75% 3-point accuracy when they play us?
I was going to mention this too. I have watched many wiscy games and I have seen them miss wide open 3 after wide open 3 and of course today they start falling.
Especially in the 1st 10 minutes.
Defensively we suck at rotating, at this level if you leave guys open, they are going to hit it. Our defense isn't very good.
Well that was a beautiful goaltend.
Gotta see a replay but goaltending?
looked like a goaltend but i'm no expert
That ball hung a long time and looked on its way down.
No such thing as goaltending anymore.
We get screwed on another goaltending call?? Come on fricken big ten refs
We routinely confuse switches and leave men unguarded at the three point line. Stop it!!!
Our offense has been painful to watch these last 3 games. I'd like to credit the level of competition but we are also missing some easy looks.
Takes some really bad shots. When is Trey going to start it up? Don't like the two big manlineup...gives us only three scorers
fielding yost would be proud
So what else is new? Guess their techies don't get up this early.
Dan Dakich is a fucking idiot.
It's based on who's playing the best... which is clearly Ohio State considering we beat them
His reason for putting us behind ohio before was they won. But when we win it doesn't count because we shot well from 3. Impeccable reasoning
Dan Dakich is an asshole
Doesn't seem to be pulling up as often/quickly lately...wish he would pull the trigger here early.
Dakich is on the pipe
Suck a dick, Dakich!
Suck a dick, Dakich!
Wow Dan Dakich is a tool
Dakich is a fucking moron.
Make them match our athleticism...
Stfu about Indiana you wanker
Dakich has Ohio number 1 in the big ten? How jus how? And that Mcgary shot was a beauty.
He also Sparty above IU which was what I found most comical.
ah yes, mcgary
With the McGross bank. Gotta love it
Some sound logic on Dakich's part- what a moron
McGary goes glass!
Dakich, please continue ripping on Michigan all game. I'm superstitious.
Forgive me for beating a dead horse, but how long can we hold off before starting McGary?
So really not much difference other than he isn't in the game at the beginning.
is a fucking idiot. Claims osu is better because it took 4 triples for UM to beat them at home. No shit, Dakich? UM had to score more points to beat someone? Fucking brilliant.
u mad bro?
Who cares what Dakich says?
Drop in, Tom. U mad that I'm mad? Brah?
Wiscy lucky on the 3s so far. Those will start to clank out.
Seems to be regressing. We need Morgan back nowwwww
Defense looking like garbage again thus far.
Lot of contact on the Levert drive.
a team that cant shoot for crap but is like 4-7 from three. they better have a purdue like second half.
Our defense is not elite enough to win titles. And when our offense isn't clicking like it is now, it spells disaster.
Time to put on some weight.
Time to put on some weight.
Caris Levert please don't drive right into a big
Chance to take the lead and Burke jacks a 3 that's not in the flow of the offense, the defensive breakdowns and its back up to 6.
How long until Wiscy's 3 pt shooting regresses to the mean
Team is very overrated. They have been tough to watch lately, defensively, they are slooooooooow.
Are good but to me, they have some weaknesses that are beginning to really show, just saying.
This team is great.
Michigan has to be one of the worst teams in the country at finishing around the rim...
Dakish sounds like a douche.
Horford gets hammered. No call. Horford barely touches Brusewitz's arm. WHISTLE.
Life on the road in the B1G. Come on, should know this by now.
Wiscy geta away with a foul and we get called on the other end. Home town officiating that we didn't get against ohio.
Does Horford have to shoot every time he touches the ball?
Clones. Playing so soft down low
Horford is so timid going to the hoop
Stop running any plays that could end up in Horford's hands, off day and he's wasting valuable possessions
It is comical at how bad Horford has been playing
man refs not calling anything for us
Not named Gus Johnson!!
Man we suck at finishing at the basket. How many layup a have we missed the last few weeks?
Can we end the GRIII to the NBA talk please, the dude has been a non-factor for a month
Don't tell us that, tell the myriad of NBA scouting/mock draft pundits who keep putting him in the 1st round.
I agree we have been fouled at the rim multiple times without a foul call but Horford have missed at least 3 close shots, which is the difference right now.
Do these referees own whistles or did they leave them in the locker room. We are getting hammered under the basket
being called for anything at home. Easy to play great defense when you are allowed to hammered people all game.
If anyone doesn't know yet, Wisconsin is so good at home because they get away with body contact in the paint and on the perimeter. Their slow white players can stay in front because the officials don't call any goddamn body contact and I think they got away with a goaltend. Dan Dakich is horrid. I miss the days he wasn't talking on tv.
a team with limited talent stay in games because they are allowed to get away with crap that other teams aren't.
We're are getting assulted in the paint but the refs arent watching...
Holy fuck guys, down by 6 on the road to a good Wisconsin team and suddenly we're extremely overrated, regressing, and have no hope? Give me a break.
Maybe it is the lack of Jordan Morgan but the last 2-3 games our defense has been bad, offensively we don't move, and frankly, our rebounding has not been good. It doesn't mean we aren't good, I just think people are ignoring weaknesses that are beginning to shine.
On his WTKA interview (yesterday?), says that Morgan's contributions don't always show up in the stats but his maturity and experience are sorely missed.
in the country has weaknesses, there are no perfect teams. Being 21-2 in the toughest confererence in the country shows that this a very good team. I will agree however, that the D and rebounding need to be tightened up a little before March, in order to take it all.
So they can review that clear three from Burke, but can't review the Aaron Craft three? Makes sense...
Weve been mugged at least 3-4 times with no whistle
Mitch either missed the memo or is an independent thinker!
Can we stop getting wrecked in first halves, please?
WAKE THE FUCK UP
Over the back.
Over the back.
Nice box out GRIII.
terrible right now. I hate wisconsin
thats a fucking joke GRIII
Why are we playing like we have vaginas?
Umm that was a charge...
The blog's love affair with Dakich.
HOW THE FUCK WAS THAT A BLOCK?
That is a clear charge.
WTF. How is that a block.
an offensive foul?
Horford actually makes one point blank....almost rolled out but he makes it'
And now the refs are in on it
That kinda looked like a charge to me...
jeezus. Wisconsin getting away with murder on their end, and that was a block on Horford???
Was that laziness
Yeah that's clearly a block...fucking idiots
Our bigs go through some stretches where they play extremely soft. I think Morgan at least brings some toughness when he's in.
Make up call..I'll take it
So long 2s are stil in the playbook? Great
Make up call
Michigan shooting 31.8%
dear god they are whistling every fuckin-thing
For missing the earlier one
Michigan hater on the mic today
Michigan: 31% FG
We're fine. We won't keep shooting this badly.
Tim is so good at getting those charges.
Somewhere Brian is grinding his teeth
I see UM is giving the ceremonial 15 point spot for road games. This is quickly becoming a tradition.
As long as your defense is struggle. Good defense keeps you in games where you aren't shooting well.
GRIII just can't create anything. He just stands around .
Burke creates a lot of his shots inside the 3 point line.
Why does every announcer not named Gus Johnson have to suck so much?
Lucky that ball bounced over the backboard because no one was in position to get the rebound
I love Mitch McGary.
Mitch showing the range!
McGary 2/2 from mid range today? What did he eat for breakfast?
McGary with 2 jumpers today....very nice
mcgary hitting the 10 footers
Vintage stauskas taunt haha
Keep it up Nik
Love the Stauskas 270 bench troll. Cocky as fuck and on any other team I'd hate it but somehow it works for me.
good things happen
Stop it Nik
Holy shit Dan Dakich is a fucking cunt. Most negative commentator ever.
Holy shit Dan Dakich is a fucking cunt. Most negative commentator ever.
Read your second sentence. Then read the first. Is the irony overwhelming yet?
No not really.
Is having an off day
Every time we have a chance to take the lead we run a horrible offensive set!
Hardaway's 2nd of the half, so be rules he's done for the half.
THJ just picked up his third foul. Wow.
Stauskas is going to be the most hated player in the B10 when Aaron Craft leaves.
it's ok to drive the lane, but kick it out you know when two big guys are in your face. don't chuck up a prayer.
Nik can do the same run again but pass instead of crashing the board next time :).
Not a good start, only down by 1.
Is McGary playing the 4 when Bielfeldt is in the game with him?
Down a point having survived the inevitable surge Wiscy would get off of playing at home.
On the road, we could be really scary.
played well without trey in there for that stretch, good sign to see that.
We need to take smarter shots than some of the ones we've chucked up there.
It's GRIII time!!
Michigan will get that rebound down low
Taking coaching advice from an anouncer is almost definitionally stupid. What is an anouncer but a failed coach?
Except for Doug Collins, he is a good coach and announcer.
A former player.
Come on - let's take the lead now!
I enjoy Manly Bielfeldt rebounds
But these refs are horrendous.
What was horrendous? The Horford block/charge looked wrong from our view, but we never got a decent replay. Regardless, we got the next call.
The only other thing I can think of was the borderline goaltend. Yeah the fan in me wanted it called, but it was pretty damn close and I can't say I'm sure it was moving downward yet.
Gene Seratore is one of the best - he's also an NFL head ref.
Legitimate question, since I get negged for every attempt at promoting civil discussion in a game thread:
Is it possible for the refs to not be terrible? In every game they are "horrendous" and whenever I try to reasonably discuss it, I'm treated like I'm trolling.
Trolling is going to an MSU board and stirring up shit. I'm trying to legitimately discuss something. That used to be the strength of MGoBlog - we were better than the lowest common denominator found at MLive and RCMB.
I'm not calling people out specifically, but the game threads lately have been a bastion of sophomoric bitching and aversion to reasoned debate. I know it is a game thread and emotion will normally trump logic, but still: Can't we hold ourselves to a higher standard?
Trey's not playing the smartest basketball this far, and if Ryan Evand wants to take 15 foot jumpers then please let him.
You know, Bielfeldt looks pretty good...
that pick and roll can be surgical sometimes
Interesting lineup with Spike and Trey
michigan was always in a bind with tim and grIII coming out simultaneously
i didn't even notice he was out, because i certainly haven't noticed that he has been in there the past week or so.
Ride him to victory.
take this game over
Burke needs to figure out what to do with less than 20 seconds on the clock.
That half was ugly.
That half was ugly.
EDIT: Sorry for the double. Have this to make up for it.
I could watch that all day long. It almost puts me in a trance.
Good half. A lead at WIsconsin at halftime is always a good half.
Some great minutes from Bielfeldt too!
Albrecht and Bielfeldt quietly played some quality minutes for us
i will take the halftime lead
Our end of game/end of half strategy is terrible.
It was a broken play off of an offensive rebound. Trey Burke lost his handle and had to put something up. Do you think losing the handle was part of the strategy?
Getting some quality minutes from Bielfeldt. After the slow start I'll take being up by one at the half. Need to come out strong in the second half.
Where is Wiscy's student section located? I hear them, but can't see them.
Our traditional horrible toss up before half-time went according to plan.
we've got a lead on the road in a game we were down 9 pts, I'll take it!
And a game where we're playing 5 on 8. When Dylan, actual journalists, and Inside the friggin' Hall are complaining about the officiating benefiting not Michigan, it's pretty bad.
But didn't you hear the ESPN announcers? This is a great officiating team!!!!!
Max and Spike gave some good minutes there, GR3 looking like a freshman again unfortunately.
Was it just me or did that half go by really quick?
i though the same thing- 40mins to play 20 is fast.
He was going towards the rim, but dribbled it off a Badger foot so pretty much had to heave.
If we are down by a bucket at the end of a game in the tournament since that is about the percentage of us making a bucket at the end of half/regulation
Best case half for Wisco and we have the lead.
I like how JB has the rotation going this game: no Morgan, so they go double big with mcgary and Max, then double small to end with Trey and Spike.
they are +10 in those rotations I think
Ugly half, but that is expected at Kohl. Happy to have the lead after what happened at the beginning of the game. We need to keep finding quality shots and we'll be alright.
Nice 15 - 5 run to close the half with the lead. We took wiscys best shot and still got the lead on the road. Don't see them being able to regroup, i think we start to pull away now.
Trey Burke one on one and a long jumper against someone he can easily take off the dribble...
Wisky shooting % returning to normal levels. Stop panicking about every little mistake people. Feeling good about this one!
Feel free to beat me up if it doesn't turn out good!!!
Also why don't we try a pick and roll at the end of the half. The burke iso isn't working!
I really like Bielfeldt's game.
Except the whole taking up with 4 people around him parts
GRIII needs to step up. He's been wilting in these big road games and we need his production. He needs to learn to move off ball and with the ball. He can't just stand there and hope someone gets him the ball with an open look.
What M's field goal percentage now? Anyone knows? I"m hoping for more regression to the mean (in an upward manner)... :)
So, here are some quick numbers -
FG% - 38.2% (13-34)
3PT% - 33.3% (3-9)
FT% - maybe in the second half
FG% - 44.0% (11-25)
3PT% - 36.4% (4-11)
FT% - 33.3% (2-6)
Most of the other box score stats are otherwise pretty even, as you might guess. Similar rebounds, assists, fouls, but Wisconsin has a few more turnovers. I think we were building momentum slowly there, so hopefully we start strong in the second half.
So everyone is aware, a quick series of tests on "The Dan Dakich Index" shows it to be about as valid as geocentrism and Piltdown Man.
More regression to the mean for us in the 2nd half will help us win this game.
Withstood the surge, got great minutes from the bench, up by one. Wiscy cannot shoot like that all afternoon.
Morgan healthy for this game, I think we would be killing them. Really wish Morgan had been healthy during this stretch, just to see how we match up against the best of the best at our top level.
That being said, our bench had really proven itself over this stretch
Speaking of Morgan, did he reinjure his ankle, or do they just want to make sure it's 100% for State?
As much as i want to hate Dakich, he is repeatly the most informed annoucer noting the improvement of Mcgary, morgans injury effect etc.
He just got done saying that Ohio was his #1 B1G team. UM 2nd IU 3rd. really!
Thank you. No need to hate because everyone else does. Awww, he didn't have our team number one in his viewpoint, God forbid somebody list us No. 2 and not No. 1; guess what, he's right Ohio is playing very well and turning into a good "team".
The whole thing with GRIII and his elbowing or whatever was wierd I'll admit, though I'll also admit I didn't follow the situation and know just what I read here. But c'mon people, relax a little bit and realize that your listening to a knowledgeable, a rarity these days.
He was extremely underinformed about that OSU game, essentially saying that Michigan had a bunch of help winning that game when the opposite was true.
GRIII, 0-2 shooting, 0 points, 1 rebound, 1 foul
The only positive is the odds of him coming back go up slightly. Imagine a more experienced and polished GRIII next year.
Wearing the old road uniforms becuase Adidas hasn't sent replacements yet for the ones that ripped at Minnesota.
Can't wait for the bitch thread that will inevitably ensue.
What I can't wait for? NIKE...
That we are finally using two bigs. We are playing much better than this score would indicate. I really like where we are heading into the second half.
I keep hoping that commercial with all those moster kids on the football team will actually show some game footage.
That Stauskas kid is more than just a shooter
Kerfluffle. Got to make those easy chances.
...and we win going away. Seven missed layups in the first half.
Read on twitter that we are wearing last seasons unis because replacements for Morgan and Burkes ripped jerseys haven't arrived from Adidas yet.
Damn that was unlucky
GR3 should secured the rebound that and secured it before going up.
To jog back on defense gr3
do we double team so much? It always leaves somebody open for the jumper.
Sake why do we leave shooters?
Making his presence known
Remind me why McGary isn't starting?
Lucky basket. Should have been a TO
I thought wisconsin couldnt shoot.
...to take a tough shot yet this half.
Whose leg do we have to hump to get a foul call/?!?
welcome to the game robinson
Finally GRIII did something.
Can we get a call?
Clear trip missed.
Is this ref blind?
Wait...that was off Michigan? What the fuck was that?
Beilein looked pretty pissed about that one.