so much for that
Michigan vs. Wisconsin B-Ball Snowflakes and Post Game Open Thread
March 15th, 2013 at 4:55 PM | 
I already said I would see
I already said I would see
March 15th, 2013 at 5:50 PM |
what-a-dick
what-a-dick
what-a-dick
'Try growing up in Texas a Michigan WOLVERINE'.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:46 PM |
Another reason
Another reason
Since their 16-0 start, they've gone 10-7. I'm guessing it's been since sometime in January when they beat a team away from Ann Arbor that will be in the ncaa tourney.
March 15th, 2013 at 7:26 PM |
All this use of "we"
All this use of "we"
In your posts is comical. The one thing YOU do the vast majority of the time is bitch. It's tiring and sad. What have you contributed that gives you the right to use "we" besides incessant complaining??
March 15th, 2013 at 4:36 PM |
Burn the camo.
Burn the camo.
Burn the camo.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:36 PM |
Why did we go to a 4 guard
Why did we go to a 4 guard
Why did we go to a 4 guard offense? That is what puzzles me the most.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:53 PM |
Because our "bigs" fucking
Because our "bigs" fucking
Because our "bigs" fucking suck
March 15th, 2013 at 6:19 PM |
Didn't both McGary and
Didn't both McGary and
Didn't both McGary and Horford both score in double-figures yesterday?
March 15th, 2013 at 4:37 PM |
Burn the camo.
Burn the camo.
Burn the camo.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:51 PM |
need some toughness
need some toughness
need a few junkyard dogs.burke,hardaway,horford,mcgary,bielfeldt,should be the core in game like this. skauskus,stonehands,and gr3 need to sit when it turns into a bar-league game.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:37 PM |
any chance we drop to a #4 in
any chance we drop to a #4 in
any chance we drop to a #4 in the NCAA? this team is just....I don't even know
3-3-5 til the day I die y'all
March 15th, 2013 at 4:43 PM |
Significant chance
Significant chance
Really, would a 4 seed be a surprise?
Procrastination: Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:37 PM |
Also, Burke took 22 shots
Also, Burke took 22 shots
Also, Burke took 22 shots today. The rest of our starters took 25. Pass the damn ball.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:40 PM |
This. A million times this.
This. A million times this.
This. A million times this. The heroball almost comeback at the end doesn't make up for a mediocre 35 minutes. Although it doesn't help when Jordan Morgan has cement hands.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:52 PM |
I honestly think this is why
I honestly think this is why
I honestly think this is why Burke is going all hero-ball on us. Who is finishing shots these days, especially near the rim? We had a good game at Staee finishing near the rim. Other recent games, not so much. Burke should be averaging 8 assists/game if people were finishing better.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:00 PM |
Who else has shot well in the
Who else has shot well in the
Who else has shot well in the last 11 games?
wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog
March 15th, 2013 at 5:25 PM |
That's true.
That's true.
But it's circular.
The first half of the year we were running the offense more, and Stauskas (and others) were moving and coming off screens to get shots. Their duty on most possessions now is to spot up in the corner and see if they happen to get a stationary shot after Burke and McGary/Morgan/whoever runs a high ball screen.
It's a different shot when they get it, and they're much less involved in the offense. I'm not surprised their shooting percentages are going down.
Poor shooting -> Burke's incredibly heavy usage -> Poor shooting. I don't know where in the circle it started but it sure is hard to stop it.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:33 PM |
This argument doens't make
This argument doens't make
This argument doens't make any sense. Burke isn't shooting the ball well either. He shot 36% today, and 35% against Indiana at home. He shot 38% last time at Wisconsin, 37% @ Indiana, and 30% @ OSU. Against good defensive teams, he needs to share the ball more. As a teammate, it's hard to be prepared to finish when you never expect to get the ball.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:00 PM |
depending on what you mean by "share the ball"
depending on what you mean by "share the ball"
this is either spot-on or missing the point.
It's not that the shots aren't getting spread around. Burke had every single one of our assists today; he's sharing the shots. The problem, to me, is that the ball isn't getting shared within the possession, just for the shot at the end.
I think Beilein's tried to address this by calling more sets. But what that's turned out to mean is that instead of going straight to the high ball screen when we first hit the frontcourt, we walk through a set for a couple of passes until the ball gets back to Burke and then we step out for the ball screen.
The cuts on the set aren't sharp enough to get anyone open, and we don't run it long enough to break the defense down. And how can you blame the cutter--what's the point of working hard off the ball when the set's going to be broken off before anything could possibly come of it? On the other hand, why shouldn't Burke break off the offense if nobody's going to work hard for the ball?
We've got some talented players--Robinson, Hardaway, Stauskas--whose entire role in the half-court offense is to stand in the corner or the extended elbow and wait for the ball after Burke and McGary/whoever run their pick and roll. No cuts, no screens, no nothing...they just try to stay out of the way of the real action in the lane.
If they don't seem to be developing over the course of the season, it's no wonder.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:41 PM |
The cuts on the set aren't
The cuts on the set aren't
The cuts on the set aren't sharp enough to get anyone open, and we don't run it long enough to break the defennse down
I do agree that our cuts aren't sharp at times. Just take a glance at Princeton's vintage offense and you'll see exactly how to cut and set up your cuts.
The other thing that gets lost in the shuffle is that every now and then we do have someone off the ball slashing to the basket that is wide open, but we never seem to see it - or just don't attempt to get the ball in to the slasher. Those are easy offensive opportunities that we need to capitalize on, and capitalizing on those opportunities also sets up the outside game.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:51 PM |
He's our best player and is
He's our best player and is
He's our best player and is playing like a senior. Let him shoot!
'Try growing up in Texas a Michigan WOLVERINE'.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:37 PM |
for the 2nd year in a row, UM will be the upset pick
for the 2nd year in a row, UM will be the upset pick
UM will be the upset pick of opening weekend...
5-5 in the last 10 games with no O rhythm and consistently bad D.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:37 PM |
fire beilein
fire beilein
fire beilein
March 15th, 2013 at 4:37 PM |
I for one am proud
I for one am proud
This was a difficult, difficult game, and our players spent months, perhaps even years, preparing for it. However, I managed to sit through the entire game. Despite everything else going on in life, all the distractions, I watched the whole game.
Thanks Thorin/Mgovideo for avatar
March 15th, 2013 at 4:38 PM |
You sir are now prepared for
You sir are now prepared for
You sir are now prepared for future disasters.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:38 PM |
Wrong mentality. The game is
Wrong mentality. The game is
Wrong mentality. The game is a distraction from your life.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:55 PM |
You're proud of yourself for sitting thru the whole game?
You're proud of yourself for sitting thru the whole game?
</sarcasm>
March 15th, 2013 at 4:38 PM |
51 POINTS IN THE SECOND
51 POINTS IN THE SECOND
51 POINTS IN THE SECOND HALF.. what is gonna be the excuse for that
March 15th, 2013 at 4:38 PM |
N-B4-lock
N-B4-lock
N-B4-lock
March 15th, 2013 at 4:38 PM |
4th seed
4th seed
Lose to 13th seed. Deja vu.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:38 PM |
This Lays
This Lays
At the feet of the coaching staff. When a team beats you 13 of 14 or whatever and scores on 13 out of 15 possessions, you need to make drastic adjustments. Beilein simply doesn't and it costs his teams.
Also, pick a lineup and stick to it. Play McGary and Horford more. At least they have upside. Jordan Morgan offers nothing at this point. 0 pts and 4 boards? Any intramural baller could achieve that.
Time to preach defense and rebounding. When the chips are on the table Michigan usually becomes all style and no substance.
You Get Nothing MSU. You Lose, Good Day Sir!
March 15th, 2013 at 4:42 PM |
Dakich is right about one thing...
Dakich is right about one thing...
Dakich preaches driving under control to the hoop and and jump-stopping on two feet when a defender is on top of you. Good things happen when you do this, and most of our slashers just don't have it in them to do this basic, fundamental move. YOu make shot blockers get off their feet with a nice pump fake. You can see other players slashing the basket. You have both pivot feet available for making further post moves. We just don't finish around the basket, and it makes it difficult to consistently win tight games when you rely on mid-range to 3-point shots. We make easy shots difficult, and I have no idea why.
That being said, we had no excuse not being up by 15 at half when the opposition shoots 17% from the field. Let me repeat...17%.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:39 PM |
At least we keep our energy
At least we keep our energy
At least we keep our energy for next weeks tourny. I don't think we would have won the BTT this weekend even if we had won tonight. I'm OK with this. We will enter the tourney anywhere from a 2 - 4 seed, likely a 3/4.
We'll have to earn whatever we get in the next few weeks.
I'm not too happy with the execution, but I do like our team's effort. We tried and haven't given up.
Rise to the occasion? Maybe.
Streaming UM games early Sunday morning from Korea, since 2007
March 15th, 2013 at 4:40 PM |
Im upvoting all trolling and
Im upvoting all trolling and
Im upvoting all trolling and downvoting all reasonble comments because I can. We lost because we play like idiots and fucking suck. And we'll lose next game too. Talent isnt everything, what we really miss is a Zack Novak.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:47 PM |
novak's leadership could not over come the bobcats
novak's leadership could not over come the bobcats
do we compete when it comes down to "win time" in tough conference games, B1G tournament or ncaa tournament?
the answer seems to be no.
pbmd
March 15th, 2013 at 4:50 PM |
So having players that
So having players that
So having players that actually play with heart wouldnt help us win? Here you go: 
March 15th, 2013 at 4:53 PM |
Are you going to go through
Are you going to go through
Are you going to go through the entire thread and suggest that everyone who disagrees with your viewpoint is stupid?
March 15th, 2013 at 4:58 PM |
Yep, pretty much. The fact
Yep, pretty much. The fact
Yep, pretty much. The fact that you went to go seek out my other posts just to argue with me demonstrates my previous point well. You can back down from a potential pirck-like comment can you?
March 15th, 2013 at 5:04 PM |
Umm...it's not so much
Umm...it's not so much
Umm...it's not so much "seeking out" but "scrolling down the thread."
I know "scrolling down" is a rare and difficult skill to acquire, but what can I say? I'm a genius.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:08 PM |
I mean yeah if you're taking
I mean yeah if you're taking
I mean yeah if you're taking you time to hit reply and type something out, it really is seeking it out. I dont reply to everything that irks me.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:12 PM |
Are you or are you not
Are you or are you not
Are you or are you not replying to my comments?
EDIT: And wasn't it you who replied to my comment initially, which had nothing to do with you?
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/michigan-v-wisconsin-snowflakes-thread#comme...
March 15th, 2013 at 5:05 PM |
Run rob6reid! A battle with
Run rob6reid! A battle with
Run rob6reid! A battle with Magnus, you will surely lose.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:40 PM |
Beilein is a very cerebral
Beilein is a very cerebral
Beilein is a very cerebral coach and is a good teacher, but he needs to work on his hype skills. Defense is about 80 percent energy, and he is just plain bad at getting the team energized. I have thought the same thing every time they show one of his pregame speeches. I get that it's not football, but it's like a library in there. When the team is coasting towards the end of the game someone needs to light the engines, and that someone has been absent for the entire Big Ten season.
"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.
-Craig Roh 10/29/2011
March 15th, 2013 at 4:52 PM |
You seem to know a lot based
You seem to know a lot based
You seem to know a lot based solely on 30 seconds of a 45-minute pre-game meeting that Michigan selected to let CBS/ESPN/B10 show.
Have you been to a M practice? I can tell you haven't. I have, and Beilein is a plenty good motivator.
CoE Class of 2007
March 15th, 2013 at 5:37 PM |
No I am basing it on how
No I am basing it on how
No I am basing it on how passive our defense is, how GRIII does not have at least 3 dunks a game, how our man sized centers give up 20 offensive rebounds a game, how we lost to the worst team on the conf. with the championship on the line, got beat by 30 against our biggest rival, and how if we go cold, chances are good we're not gonna heat up again for about ten minutes. These are all symptoms of a lack of motivation and killer instinct, which tells me someone's not lightin the fires hot enough. The 30 second clip of the last thing said in the locker room before tipoff got me thinking about it. The results on the floor made my point. I'm absolutely not one of these idiots saying Beileins got to go. I think he's a great coach for the program, but I wish he had Frank Martin as an assistant.
"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.
-Craig Roh 10/29/2011
March 15th, 2013 at 4:41 PM |
At least we will be rested
At least we will be rested
For next weekend.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:58 PM |
I guess that's the silver lining
I guess that's the silver lining
albeit one I wish we could do without
March 15th, 2013 at 4:41 PM |
Raise Your Hand
Raise Your Hand
If you think this team can do anything in the tournament. They gave up 51 points to Wisconsin .... IN A HALF. That's damn near inconceivable. And yes I do know what that word means Princess Bride fans!
"Better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football" -- John Heisman
March 15th, 2013 at 8:03 PM |
That word means...
That word means...
What you think it means?
not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user
March 15th, 2013 at 4:41 PM |
Game was lost in the 1st half
Game was lost in the 1st half
Hold a team to 17% shooting in the 1st half only to be up by 3 at the break, especially with multiple chances to go up 10 near halftime, then to launch unnecessary shots and give Wisconsin a chance to close the gap.
Dissapointed in the results, and often what looks like a lack of effort, the latter part of the year. This team has been unable to improve or find an effective identity, unlike the some of the teams the past few years.
I already said I would see every one Bolvia in the last thread. Calm down at let me have my 15 minutes.