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November 4th, 2013 at 8:00 PM
#1202
michfan6060returns
Joined: 09/25/2013
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Come on guys! Give me

Come on guys! Give me something to be happy about.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:01 PM
#1203
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Walton with the start.

Walton with the start.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:01 PM
#1204
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Once again the broadcast is on BTNstudentU

Wasn't too bad last time, they just sound so "student."

Walton gets the start over Spike tonight.

Walton-Stauskas-GRIII-Morgan-Horford.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:02 PM
#1205
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Anyone have a stream?

Anyone have a stream?

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:03 PM
#1206
michfan6060returns
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First drop for

First drop for Morgan...#rockhands

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:03 PM
#1207
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Stauskas

...still slow rotating on defense.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:03 PM
#1208
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Nice help D from Horford

Nice help D from Horford

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:05 PM
#1209
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Drink

Drink.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:06 PM
#1210
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More than just a shooter!

More than just a shooter!

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:08 PM
#1211
Mr. Yost
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I hate this lineup.

Morgan and Horford should NEVER be on the floor together unless we're playing Wisconsin (or some team with two huge post players).

Those are two centers. McGary can play PF.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:11 PM
(Reply to #11) #1212
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With Morgan and Horford we

With Morgan and Horford we are limited offensively. 

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:08 PM
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Score Updates

Score updates appreciated

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:09 PM
(Reply to #12) #1214
mistersuits
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BTN2go

Login info appreciated more.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:08 PM
#1215
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5-3, Michigan

5-3, Michigan

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:08 PM
#1216
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Stream?

Is there an online stream?

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:10 PM
(Reply to #14) #1217
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http://xrxs.net/video/live-bt

http://xrxs.net/video/live-btn-1840.m3u8



Works on iPad, iPhone or in VLC.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:16 PM
(Reply to #18) #1218
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jonvolk - thanks for

jonvolk - thanks for posting!

Is this just the "all day" BTN mobile link found through wiziwig?

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:29 PM
(Reply to #29) #1219
jonvalk
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Not sure. It's a link I've

Not sure. It's a link I've been using for a bit. I usually use XBMC and they have an HDish stream always on.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:18 PM
(Reply to #18) #1220
river-z
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thank you!

thank you!

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:09 PM
#1221
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5-3 Michigan

At the under 16 media timeout. J-Mo headed to the line for 2.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:09 PM
#1222
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Anyone else having trouble

Anyone else having trouble with fullscreen on the BTN2Go app?

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:12 PM
#1223
jonvalk
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http://xrxs.net/video/live-bt

http://xrxs.net/video/live-btn-1840.m3u8



One last post. It's the best BTN2Go stream available. Pretty much HD.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:15 PM
(Reply to #20) #1224
RP
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Thank you so much!

Thank you so much!

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:16 PM
(Reply to #20) #1225
dmblue
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how does one use this (pc)

how does one use this (pc)

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:18 PM
(Reply to #28) #1226
jonvalk
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Download VLC. Choose "open

Download VLC. Choose "open network stream." Paste the link.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:26 PM
(Reply to #37) #1227
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Thanks works great.

Thanks works great.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:20 PM
(Reply to #28) #1228
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copy the link, open VLC, and

copy the link, open VLC, and the Cntrl+V will paste it into the player.  Click play.

You'll have to download VCL media player first.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:17 PM
(Reply to #20) #1229
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When I click the link

It keeps playing for like 2 minutes and then closing.  When I restart, it goes right back to the same spot it started.  Is this happeneing to anyone else?

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:20 PM
(Reply to #31) #1230
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Using it on mobile or PC?

Using it on mobile or PC?

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:20 PM
(Reply to #31) #1231
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Never mind

Fixed it

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:50 PM
(Reply to #43) #1232
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How did you fix that issue?

How did you fix that issue? I'm having the same problem

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November 10th, 2013 at 11:17 PM
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same

same

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November 10th, 2013 at 11:17 PM
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same

same

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November 10th, 2013 at 11:17 PM
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same

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November 10th, 2013 at 11:17 PM
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same

same

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November 10th, 2013 at 11:17 PM
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same

same

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November 10th, 2013 at 11:17 PM
(Reply to #97) #1238
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same

same

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November 10th, 2013 at 11:17 PM
(Reply to #97) #1239
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same

same

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November 10th, 2013 at 11:17 PM
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same

same

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:06 PM
(Reply to #43) #1241
ak47
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Mine keeps going, stopping

Mine keeps going, stopping for a second, then continuing but after it happens a few times it just closes itself, any suggestions? Thanks

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:21 PM
(Reply to #31) #1242
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works fine for me on a PC

works fine for me on a PC

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:12 PM
#1243
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Morgan just got blown by...

He's just not a PF.

He can Horford are the C's, just because McGary is hurt doesn't mean we should change this.

Irvin is coming in for Morgan so finally we're getting guys on the floor in more of a natural position.

Stauskas got ripped and J-Mo takes a charge (what a shocker)

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:14 PM
(Reply to #21) #1244
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Irvin came in for GR3.

Irvin came in for GR3.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:15 PM
(Reply to #23) #1245
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No he didn't

LeVert came in for GRIII

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:16 PM
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ken725
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Well Morgan just got subbed

Well Morgan just got subbed out for Bieldfelt.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:19 PM
(Reply to #30) #1247
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This is true...

...and I wasn't saying Morgan is bad. I actually like him a lot more than most posters do.

I was just saying he's not a PF.

I don't see anything wrong with playing him 15-20 minutes at C, Horford 10-15 minutes at C, and McGary the rest of the minutes at C (with the majority of his minutes coming at PF).

Obviously McGary is out, so go 20 minutes a piece for Morgan/Horford at C and call it a day.

When J-Mo is on the perimeter it noticably bogs down the offense.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:22 PM
(Reply to #40) #1248
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Agree. I like Morgan too, but

Agree. I like Morgan too, but he is limited at the 4.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:14 PM
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Guys definitely look like

Guys definitely look like they won by 70 last time. Playing sloppy basketball.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:14 PM
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Spike for 3!

IMO he should be the starter...all year. I'm not saying Walton shouldn't get more minutes, but I think Spike's calming force is perfect to start the game and the half.

 

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:19 PM
(Reply to #24) #1251
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Disagree

I think his calming force is perfect when the offense is out of sync or needs a jolt (see: Ohio State last year) but Walton's explosiveness is preferable to start the game.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:19 PM
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Nah. Just too athletically

Nah. Just too athletically limited to succeed in the Big Ten. Let's not overreact to an amazing stretch he played in the NC game as an unscouted player. If Walton is not ready to lead this team, they will not go far.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:14 PM
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That's better. Good extra

That's better. Good extra pass to Spike for the three.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:17 PM
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Nice shot by Irvin...

Even though we're not running anything we're just driving and kicking. I'd like to see us run something that resembles an offense at some point.

15-11 Michigan.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:17 PM
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Well, I know Wayne State is

Well, I know Wayne State is probably better than Concordia by a bunch, but we had nearly 2x points at this time last week.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:21 PM
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I'm glad they have to sweat a little bit...

They're going to have to learn how to play when guys make a shot or two and they can't just run in transition for 40 minutes.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:18 PM
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Can I haz well clubbed dead

Can I haz well clubbed dead seal? I really really need it after Sat...

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:18 PM
#1258
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Man I love

what Spike brings to the table. His handles are great and he can shoot. He'll be more than serviceable these next 3 years.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:21 PM
#1259
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Irvins got a good stroke.

18-11.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:22 PM
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Great defensive possession...

...then Max B overhelps and they get a layup, but the perimeter defense was awesome.

Zak Irvin is on FIRE!

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:23 PM
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Irvin is feelin it!

Irvin is feelin it!

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:24 PM
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Irvin dropped another 3.

3-3 now. 23-15.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:24 PM
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Not a huge fan of two posts

Bielfeldt getting minutes over someone like Irvin, GRIII, Stauskas or LeVert just isn't worth it

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:35 PM
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It's okay if it's McGary

But you're right...anyone else, no.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:24 PM
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This is also why I don't like playing Horford and Morgan....

This is also why I don't like playing Horford and Morgan at the same time...they have to rest for an extended period at the same time.

Not that it matters being an exhibition, but still...

That said, Horford just checked back in.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:41 PM
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But once McGary's back, it'll

But once McGary's back, it'll be a moot point.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:25 PM
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Irvin is the perimeter defender

We need. Not the one we deserve.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:28 PM
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We'll see...

He was slow in rotation vs. Concordia, looks much better tonight.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:26 PM
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Irivin is a big body, but

Irivin is a big body, but he's not as explosive at GRIII and will never play the 4 for us.  He's a guard/wing.  Would love to see him able to play the GRIII 3/4 after GRIII leaves.  Won't happen, though.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:28 PM
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Love Levert, Stauskas, GRIII.

Love Levert, Stauskas, GRIII.  Think Walton will be the primary PG, meaning we just don't have enough positions/playing time to add in much of Irvin, let alone Spike.  Moving GRIII to PF would open minutes up, but I think he'll mostly stay at the SF position.  Next year, though...

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:32 PM
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You're going to have to play more guys...

Just because that would be too many minutes for guys who aren't your best players. You've got to take minutes away from Morgan, Horford and Max B to give them to Spike and Irvin.

It's not like McGary can't play C for a 5-10 minutes and GRIII can't play PF for the same amount of time to give Spike and Irvin a few more minutes.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:29 PM
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He's already played the 4 in this game...

Doesn't really matter...if he can play the 3, he can play the 4. Novak played PF for an entire season in this offense.

Only recently have we had traditional size, but it's not like Irvin won't be able to play PF in spurts.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:34 PM
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Agree that they'll have

Agree that they'll have McGary at the 5 and GRIII at the 4 for stretches to get their best players in the game.  However, I say Irvin won't play the 4 all year.  He came in as a guard (2), while GRIII came in as a SF.  His athleticism lets him play bigger than Irvin though they are similar size.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:27 PM
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Michigan is switching screens on the perimeter

Interesting but not really surprising...LeVert, GRIII, Stauskas, Irvin are all so big, but move like guards so it doesn't really matter unless someone like Aaron Craft is on the other team.

Could help our defense to be able to switch more often and not create a mismatch.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:30 PM
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Who is Brian Coleman?

Dude is straight balling.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:34 PM
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32-21

4:43 minutes left.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:34 PM
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Walton for 3!!!

AND THE FOUL!!!

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:35 PM
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Walton with the and 1 3 pointer

set up by GR3. 35-21.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:37 PM
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Finally some offense...

Took us 17 minutes, but we finally ran a play, lol.

High ball screen with Horford crashing hard to the basket for the dunk.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:37 PM
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It's early, but Levert looks

It's early, but Levert looks good running the point.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:38 PM
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Although I'll desperately

Although I'll desperately miss Trey, I think we're in pretty good hands with out new point guards.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:40 PM
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It'll be a different feel

I'm looking forward to it, I loved watching Trey in the way I loved watching Denard. But it'll be nice to see other guys be leaned on to contribute.

Having Spike, Walton Jr. and LeVert really gives us versatility at that position.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:41 PM
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Absolutely.  All 3 of them!

Absolutely.  All 3 of them!

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:38 PM
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Horford is rebounding well,

Horford is rebounding well, and that is how he will earn his minutes.  Very important for this team.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:38 PM
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I really hate the one-and-one

Hate it

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:41 PM
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why?

why?

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:41 PM
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40-24

2:24 left.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:41 PM
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Can't find a working stream,

Can't find a working stream, but it's all good, keep the updates coming please.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:42 PM
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download VLC.  use it to play

download VLC.  use it to play this stream (copy/paste)

http://xrxs.net/video/live-btn-1240.m3u8

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:42 PM
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Did you try the first page

Did you try the first page using VLC and the link provided? Worked great for me.

 

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:42 PM
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GRIII

is playing the 4 right now...so again for people that think guys are locked into 1 position. Won't happen.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:43 PM
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True, but there has been a

True, but there has been a lot of talk about him playing the 3, and I think when we start playing big teams (B1G), he'll play more SF.  The more he can play the 4, the more we'll be able to get our best five on the floor for sure.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:49 PM
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He will play the 3

But just because he will, doesn't mean he can't play the 4 for a few minutes.

Just like McGary will primarily play the 4, but there are going to be times where he plays the 5.

Stauskas will have to play the 3 some, LeVert will have to play the point some.

Flexibility is a good thing. Some people act like it's a liability.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:43 PM
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Coleman!

4th 3...this kid is killing us. Figuratively speaking.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:43 PM
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It seems like levert, spike,

It seems like levert, spike, and walton are more willing to setup the offense and slow it down. Burke would occasionally force a drive or shot..but sometimes was a good thing.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:47 PM
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Well that's what happens when you're relied on to score...

I can't compare it to Denard enough, but it's just like how Denard would occassional check to a QB blast and call his own number. Or sometimes he'd call an option and never ever look to the RB...he's just turn it upfield.

You have the liberty to do that when you pretty much ARE the offense.

This team is going to be a lot different. It's a welcomed change after watching the PG carry the team for 3 years.

All three (LeVert, Spike, Walton) are more than capable of leading the team in scoring and getting their shots...but we won't RELY on it. Big difference.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:44 PM
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HUGE ALLEYOOP!

Stauskas to GRIII

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:44 PM
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OMG. I think his head was

OMG. I think his head was above the rim.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:44 PM
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I think he haz wings.

I think he haz wings.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:44 PM
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AAAAND BOOM GOES THE

AAAAND BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:44 PM
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Coleman finally missed

Coleman finally missed

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:46 PM
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Damn hope that is on the

Damn hope that is on the eventual highlight video

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:47 PM
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Really looking forward to the

Really looking forward to the adhoc, live mic, random camera of these student hafltime shows.

Should be exciting.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:50 PM
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womp womp

BTN has a halftime show this time...oh well

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:48 PM
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Link for live

Link for live stats

http://www.scacchoops.com/ViewHDGame.asp?hSchedule=20256

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:50 PM
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 With the talent we have, we

 With the talent we have, we won't need a Trey Burke to force the action...that said, I would like to see Walton be a little more aggressive when he gets the ball a 2nd or 3rd time on a possesion   

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:52 PM
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It's still early in his career

Today was his first start and I don't even know if he led the team in minutes at PG over Spike in or LeVert in the first half.

He'll become more aggressive as his role increases. As of right now, it's probably best that he keeps the ball moving and we find a good shot.

He's not even a 4th or 5th option on this team right now. He'll probably get there, but right now, he's got to defer.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:01 PM
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  Very true, but the one

  Very true, but the one thing I'm scared of with this team is that they need to find the person who's going to demand the ball and get a basket when the offense goes cold (as it does for all teams).

  We have a few people (GRIII, McGary, Stauskas, maybe Irvin or Walton) who CAN do that, Im not entirely convinced that any of them have that aggressiveness in them to actually do it.  

  

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:50 PM
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Not a bad half.  One guy

Not a bad half.  One guy getting hot can keep many lesser teams in a game, and we're still up comfortably.  Can't win 'em all by 73.  Plenty to polish up, but we're OK.  A lot of unselfish play, guys trying to make the extra pass.  So the signs are there.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:54 PM
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Yep.

I'm not a basketball defensive expert but it appeared that Coleman's three pointers were all well contested.

Still there is definitely some sloppy passing going on and/or miscommunications that msut be worked out if UM is going to have any success on the road against a good/great team.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:55 PM
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true. but, if you have such a

true.

but,

if you have such a hot shooter, you have to deny him the ball.  That is a fundamental aspect of defense.  The problem wasn't that he wasn't guarded, but that he was allowed to get the ball because he was extended really far out.  When he's the only scorer, you have to extend all the way with him.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:51 PM
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Who will be our leading

Who will be our leading scorer this season?

I think Stauskas will be the leading scorer this year, not GRIII.  I think we'll see a much more aggressive Nik.  McGary could possibly take that mantle if he's aggressive like last year's tournament run, but instead I think he'll be providing all sorts of stats while Nik will specialize in points.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:55 PM
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GRIII

But Stauskas and McGary shouldn't be too far behind.

I said this last week, this team may break the team record for most number of different players to lead the team in scoring for a game during a season.

We have like 8 guys who could lead the team in scoring on any given night.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:58 PM
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Good point.  I expect leading

Good point.  I expect leading scorers to be

  1. Stauskas
  2. GRIII
  3. McGary
  4. Levert
  5. Walton

I don't think another will reach that status, though Irvin might if he gets really hot and thus extra minutes.  Spike?  Doubt it.  Big men, no.  

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:01 PM
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I don't think it's a matter of "that level"

I just think that the points among the guys that you mentioned could be so spread out that it's not THAT much more than the guys you didn't mention.

If the guys you mentioned all get 10, 12, 14...and then the "other" guys get 6-8. That's not really that many more points.

It's alot different from Burke and Hardaway getting 25, Stauskas getting 15 and everyone else getting 4-6 points.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:52 PM
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Anyone else in Ann Arbor lose

Anyone else in Ann Arbor lose their cable signal?  I have AT&T and it's out.  Really annoying.

 

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:53 PM
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This team will be exciting to

This team will be exciting to watch this year - maybe even more than last year.  I think we'll see

  • even better ball movement
  • more hot shooters taking over stretches of the game
  • more aggressive defense
  • more running the court

Fun stuff for fans.

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November 4th, 2013 at 8:58 PM
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Agreed

Those are the exact reasons I've been excited to see this team since April/May.

That said, we have to realize that we're losing experience, go-to playmakers and a guy to lean on to take the final shot.

It'll be more of a TEAM and more of a "hot hand" type of deal. But sometimes you just need your star player to be a star.

There will be growing pains with this team, but unlike football...I think this team improves as the season goes along.

McGary must stay healthy.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:02 PM
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46-30

Start of the 2nd Half.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:03 PM
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This kid...

...has fallen in love with saying "GR3"

Mix it up, can't call him by just his nickname.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:04 PM
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Five 3's for Brian Coleman

Torching us.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:05 PM
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Horford and Morgan need to hit the jugs machine.

Hands still made of stone...both of them.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:05 PM
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Horford with one of those

Horford with one of those silly fouls

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:05 PM
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Can we get a hand

in Colemans face. That's 5 3's

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:06 PM
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In all fairness, he did have

In all fairness, he did have a hand in his face for three of them.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:06 PM
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Once again...

...this Horford-Morgan combo is giving us nothing.

Play one or the other! Can't play them both and rely on any offense that isn't 1 on 1 or fast break.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:08 PM
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Agreed. Nothing gained.

Agreed. Nothing gained.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:10 PM
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I'd much rather learn this

I'd much rather learn this when the games don't count haha.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:12 PM
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Likewise...

...and again, if it's one of them and McGary. No worries.

But they can't play together unless you're playing Wisconsin or MSU or someone that plays 2 huge guys that GRIII can't guard in the post.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:08 PM
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53-35 Michigan

15:56 left.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:11 PM
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Ahhh

LeVert is on Coleman...I like this matchup.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:11 PM
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After the time out, we'll

After the time out, we'll come out with the long line-up plus Horford.  My crystal ball says so.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:14 PM
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I like what I'm seeing

from Spike, Irvin, Walton, Horford and Caris....he looks good at the point

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:16 PM
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LeVert is a lot more comfortable...

Still lanky and a little awkward, but he plays so much slower...which is a good thing. You can tell he's got more confidence in his game.

Last year he looked like the freshman that got moved up to varsity in the middle of the season.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:17 PM
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57-40

12:54 left

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:18 PM
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Goaltending?

come on

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:19 PM
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No offense

We've run 1 play all game...I haven't seen any offense all game. We could struggle if weren't not able to get into transition.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:22 PM
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Michigan's offense if a

Michigan's offense if a movement offense - meaning they are running continual plays.  We've seen one pure pick and roll pass successfully run.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:28 PM
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That's code for "nothing"

It's just a bunch of running around with a few dribble handoffs. We had a nice pick and roll to Horford for a dunk, but we haven't run offense all game. Movement, back cuts, off the ball screens, etc.

And even if you're just running a motion offense, there's still flow to it. A pass to the wing generates a back cut, ball screen or screen away. You've got guys working the defense.

We haven't done any of that so far this year.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:20 PM
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We have had nothing going to

We have had nothing going to the hoop..keep settling for 3's.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:20 PM
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Sloppy 2nd half play. This is

Sloppy 2nd half play. This is a good wake- up call to counter the 70 point win.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:20 PM
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Terrible shot by Levert!  We

Terrible shot by Levert!  We don't need that one person dribble long two.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:22 PM
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Quick thoughts...

I'd start Spike every game, but Walton would see more minutes. In the 2nd half I'd ride the hot hand.

We may be playing Morgan and Horford to get GRIII time to acclimate to the 3 position, but when McGary gets back, they should never play together unless we're playing a HUGE lineup.

Our halfcourt offense is a work in progress. In fact, it kind of sucks right now. We didn't need it vs. Concordia because they missed every shot they took. Wayne St is making some shots and we can't get into anything offensively, we're just flat out better than them and we can create 1 on 1.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:23 PM
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bad feeling

I have a bad feeling that this team is going to struggle offensively quite a bit this season. Without Burke/Hardaway, those close wins we had last year are going to turn into losses this year. We have no catalyst on offense.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:30 PM
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Don't forget that we're

Don't forget that we're playing without McGary.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:37 PM
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well then

If I were an opposing coach, the game plan would be to take McGary out of the game. Because evidently this team isn't that good without him. And by 'take him out' I mean create plays and schemes that practically eliminate his effectiveness.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:41 PM
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lol what? not good without

lol what? not good without him? Remember when we should have lost to penn state on the road last year? or got blown out at msu? teams have bad games in basketball, its why undefeated teams pretty much never happen.  

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:44 PM
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It's not that easy to just

It's not that easy to just scheme around Mitch.  He's a high-energy guy and is all over the court.  You basically have to hope he gets in foul trouble if you're an opposing coach.

 

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:26 PM
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Needed something to be excited about

After Saturday.  Doesn't look like I'm going to get that

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:32 PM
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Wow really? you have a team

Wow really? you have a team thats mostly sophmores playing their first two games after losing two first round picks and the national player of the year at point gaurd, I think you sort of have to expect a few bumps, like playing sloppy in an exhibition game because you know you are more talented.

Also how did you fix the vlc player link to stop closing every 2 minutes, please and thank you.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:58 PM
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I didn't say I got disappointment from this game

I said it wasn't the jolt of excitement I was hoping for.  After Saturday, another 70-point beatdown with tons of preposterous dunks would have been a nice pick-me-up. 

What you said stands.  They played sloppy against a team they knew they could beat.

That said: wasn't thrilled with the big men.  Morgan was fine, but Horford's hands are questionable and Bielfeldt doesn't look like he should be playing unless it's an emergency.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:27 PM
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YAAAY, another underwhelming

YAAAY, another underwhelming performance by a UM team. Just what the doctor ordered after this weekend.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:28 PM
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Not the most impressive outing thus far

might as well work on plays like it's a practice I suppose

What level is Wayne St in? Are they as good as it seems here?

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:30 PM
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jcouz
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No

They aren't good but they are much better than Concordia. Michigan isn't playing with as much intensity tonight. This team will only be elite if McGary is healthy.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:28 PM
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Don't give that man the

Don't give that man the baseline

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:29 PM
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So many negative Nancys now.

So many negative Nancys now.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:29 PM
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Are you guys serious?  They

Are you guys serious?  They are coasting to a 20+ win in an exhibition game.  Exhibitions are about two things: Trying out different playing combinations and not getting anyone hurt.  

You really think this game is indicative of anything that will happen during the season?  

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:32 PM
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Exactly...

They could still win this game by 30+, lol

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:30 PM
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Why are you guys bitching?

It's an exhibition game. It means nothing. Don't compare this to Michigan State, on Saturday, lol.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:31 PM
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Wow

We just got muscled on the boards.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:31 PM
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Wayne St.

is playing tenacious

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:35 PM
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Give WSU credit

They didn't come here to bow to Michigan. They are scrapping and playing harder than Michigan tonight. I wouldn't read too much in to the performance other than our front court without McGary isn't good enough.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:40 PM
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Yea, this front court is down

Yea, this front court is down right bad without Mitch. On the possitive side, that's really no different from last year. We all saw those results.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:33 PM
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4th dropped or bobbled pass by Horford/Morgan

I miss McGary.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:33 PM
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Fire everyone! /s

Fire everyone!



/s

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:34 PM
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We better make sure Mitch is

We better make sure Mitch is 100%(!!!) before he comes back. He's gonna have to play some major minutes if they want to have any sort of inside presence (offensive and defensive).

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:35 PM
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McGary does not drop that

McGary does not drop that pass - I promise.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:36 PM
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I don't think

Morgan does either.  But yeah tonight has shown that we will really miss McGary if he misses significant time.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:36 PM
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It sucks Horford really

It sucks Horford really hasn't improved the last couple years. I really thought he would end up being a beast by the time he left.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:37 PM
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his rebounding has been great

his rebounding has been great in both games this year and really improved throughout last season.  I think that will be big for us.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:51 PM
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Really? Thats actually my

Really? Thats actually my biggest criticism with him. He doesn't really box out. It seems like he tries to just out jump the defenders, and it's not like hes a high flyer.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:38 PM
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Yeah...

He's kind of like the 3rd Manning brother

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:37 PM
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So....

What's the score?

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:38 PM
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65-48

65-48

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:38 PM
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Irvin is going to be a streaky

His shot is inconsistent...he never goes up and comes down the same, you can almost call when he's going to make it just by his release.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:39 PM
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saw the same thing.  But when

saw the same thing.  But when his shot looks pretty, it looks mighty pretty.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:38 PM
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We ran something!

1 play per half, lol...both for dunk/layups

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:39 PM
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Wayne St. is playing a instate

B10 team just coming off a national championship game. Of course they came to play.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:39 PM
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"Get that salami outta here!"

"Get that salami outta here!"

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:43 PM
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Slam-ami...get it?

lol, what was also funny was the 15 second pause afterwards.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:44 PM
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God, you're right.  You know

God, you're right.  You know he was practicing that for days in his dorm room.  

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:41 PM
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SLOOOOPPPPYYYY

SLOOOOPPPPYYYY

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:44 PM
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jcouz
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Beilein has got a ton for this team to work on

He can't be happy with all of the turnovers and the lack of intensity tonight. @ Iowa St in 10 days will be a tough test. Hopefully, Mitch will be available

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November 4th, 2013 at 11:12 PM
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Sloopy

Hang on

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:42 PM
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This game is so sloppy

It's times like this I think you have to put Spike and Morgan in the game. They're the two guys you can rely on for smart/consistent play.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:43 PM
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need to finish

at the basket better boys

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:43 PM
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The back court appears to be

The back court appears to be pretty good.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:44 PM
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Mannn

Fuck Luke Hancock.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:45 PM
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Agreed. That game was ours.

Agreed. That game was ours.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:18 PM
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Let's just say

F*** all beards!! By that I mean Hancock and all the red sox.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:45 PM
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Nice cut to the

basket by Caris

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:46 PM
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The little boy sweeping the floor during timeouts

The little boy sweeping the floor during timeouts is a machine. I've never seen such perfect form.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:51 PM
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mvp

He's the MVP of this game!

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:47 PM
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77-55

2 minutes left

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:48 PM
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Donnel

Gets owned on the boards and then gives up a foul...

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:49 PM
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Walton and Spike playing together again...

For the person in the Concordia thread that wanted to argue with me.

It's going to happen. They actually played together more vs. Concordia.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:49 PM
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I think it's really important

I think it's really important that we win by at least 20!

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:51 PM
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OK, just kidding.

OK, just kidding.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:53 PM
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only 19 pts. We are DOOOOMED

only 19 pts. We are DOOOOMED

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:51 PM
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Is it...

Don-nell...or Don-uhl?

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:54 PM
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I thought it was Don-uhl.

I thought it was Don-uhl.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:08 PM
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Me too...

Only one l...but the kid on the broadcast called him don-neLL like 10 times in 20 words.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:52 PM
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79-60

Final.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:52 PM
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Would have liked to see more of Donnal

The thought of Bielfeldt trying to guard Adreian Payne scares the bejesus out of me

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:56 PM
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Unless they're fouling, the

Unless they're fouling, the thought of anyone not named Mitch McGary guarding AP scares me.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:59 PM
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Wait...

Are you suggesting that Donnel can guard him?

He's not even going to play this year.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:01 PM
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I'm suggesting

That I would have liked to get a longer look at what he brings to the table.  The exhibition games were the only chance for that.  We already know what we have in Bielfeldt. 

 

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:10 PM
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Understood.

However, I can tell you know...he's not the answer vs. Payne. He needs about 15 more lbs to even THINK about seeing the floor in the B1G.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:40 PM
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That's fine

But if he can bring a sweet stroke or offensive skill, that could mitigate it.  I phrased it incorrectly to begin with, but the point is right now it seems like our big's are McGary and JAG's (Morgan's defensive skills notwithstanding).  Would have been nice to see if the 4-star 6'9" shooter we got could provide a punch somewhere in the frontcourt. 

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:53 PM
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very sloppy performance

very sloppy performance

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:57 PM
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10 "Quick" Thoughts

1. Don't care about the score...but the play was too sloppy for my liking

2. We didn't run much offense in these two exhibition games. We really struggle in the halfcourt (but we're VERY dangerous on the break)

3. Morgan and Horford shouldn't play together...however, I'll let it go because this allowed GRIII to get time at the 3 and Stauskas time at the 2.

4. Spike needs to start until Walton Jr. can gets enough experience to become more assertive.

5. Irvin is going to be streaky...I see THJ 2.0 except he won't get as many shots and won't be relied on as the 2nd best player on the team.

6. We need to run more ISO and offense through Stauskas and GRIII when we're in the halfcourt. They're both more of a mismatch than we give them credit for.

7. Morgan and Horford still have hands of stone

8. GRIII still hasn't quite established himself as the leader, but it's clear he's trying

9. LeVert is much improved and plays the game at a MUCH better pace

10. We haven't found a "go to" lineup yet

Bonus - Our team defense isn't what it was last year or can be...but we've got the athletes to get it there.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:25 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong....

But half way through the B1G season, wasn't the team's lack of interior defense a huge complaint?

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:43 PM
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We didn't run much offense in

We didn't run much offense in these two exhibition games. We really struggle in the halfcourt

I didn't see the Concordia game, but given that we scored 117 points in it, I can't imagine that we struggled much in the halfcourt game. (Yeah, Concordia is no good, but still, how often do college teams reach triple digits?)

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November 4th, 2013 at 11:37 PM
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Disagree on Spike. Walton is the far superior

Disagree on Spike. Walton is the far superior defender, and that will get him the starting nod.

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November 4th, 2013 at 9:58 PM
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hmm....

Without any real options inside, the only answer might be to jack up a bunch of 3s and hope for the best. And if we all remember, that is not a good answer. I am now afraid for this team and the possibility for a very long year. Without McGary, this team is a borderline top 25 squad.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:02 PM
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I agree about McGary

I agree about McGary but I hope your opinion has little to do with tonight's game.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:21 PM
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a little bit

it does have a little bit too do with tonight's game. if Wayne State can hold us scoreless for lengthy periods of time, imagine what it's going to be like when we play actual competition.

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November 4th, 2013 at 11:11 PM
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One year

Syracuse lost an exhibition to Le Moyne and ended up being the number 1 overall seed in the tournament (ended up losing to a Gordon Hayward-led Butler runner up).  Last year, Michigan lost to Penn State and ended up in the championship.  A bad game does not define a team. 

That said, rather than look at the score or surface trends, the only really disturbing thing was the play of the bigs.  Horford's hands are not very good and Bielfeldt is not exactly a world-beater.  I was impressed with Morgan, but McGary needs to come back. 

The rest of it I can chalk up to sluggishness.  This is not like the Akron or UConn football games (systemic failure that is a sign of impending doom).  This was just a young team that decided to coast.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:04 PM
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lol

What a crock of crap...

This team is legit...they're just young. However, unlike football...they have PROVEN young talent.

This is still a top 25 team.

If we had to play without McGary, Coach B would just have to have a closed door meeting with GRIII and tell him sorry son, you're playing PF this year so we can get the best players on the floor.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:19 PM
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even still

ok, this team does have some proven young talent. but without consistent scoring (burke) or leadership (mcgary if out for extended periods of time) is going to hurt this team. talent can only take you so far. just ask Kentucky.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:28 PM
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We don't have near the talent Kentucky has

But we have a much better coach. They just have a bigger program, a ton more history, great facilities and great recruiters.

X's and O's I'll take Beilein over most anyone in the country. Not to throw football under the bus, but you can't say that about Hoke.

We didn't have the most talented team last year and look where we got. And look where we got without Burke playing like the player of the year and THJ struggling for most of the tournament.

I'll take Beilein and this team without McGary and watch it be a more than decent team. Hell, I'd say it would be better than say an NC St of last year.

It still has 1 NBA lottery player and 2-4 other guys that may play in the league to go with a great coach.

Don't get me wrong, we NEED McGary if we want to do anything. But it's not like where we'd be without Burke in previous years.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:43 PM
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Yeah

Compare this team to Morris' sophomore season (Duke last-second shot) and the talent difference is striking.  Morris is the only player on that team who would start on this team (I think sophomre Stauskas would start over freshman THJr., but even if you disagree that's only two starters).

Without McGary, this looks like a sweet 16 team.

With McGary...well the sky's the limit

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:32 PM
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McGary is the leadership for

McGary is the leadership for this team? Not the other 4 Sophs or Morgan or horford?

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November 4th, 2013 at 11:09 PM
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Really young team? That have

Really young team? That have proven themselves and went to NC last year? I thought uofm football was the only college team with young guys who have no experience..hmmm :)

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:14 PM
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Lol

Yeah because they had so many more options inside last year during the regular season (Mcgary made little to no imapact) and still came within a ball rolling off the rim of winning the best conference in the country

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:24 PM
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because

it's because we had Burke. a consistent scoring option and he pretty much willed us to victories in some games that should have been losses.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:28 PM
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Oh relax everyone freaked out

Oh relax everyone freaked out when Morris left early especially since we had no backup with experience. Well be fine let the team gel the first couple games and remember we're missing arguably our best player. And honestly it's the big ten that counts in the end

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:28 PM
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Fortunately, he does still

Fortunately, he does still play for this team.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:14 PM
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Fire Borges #beingadick

Fire Borges #beingadick

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:25 PM
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no

No. You're a dick for using hashtags.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:35 PM
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+onemillion. Awesome

+onemillion.



Awesome response.

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November 4th, 2013 at 11:10 PM
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I still call them

Pound signs.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:22 PM
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When we get McGary back,

When we get McGary back, we're a legit top 5/10 team.  exhibition games mean nothing.  The year we won the big ten, we only beat Wayne State by 11 points.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:29 PM
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But...but...

.....

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:30 PM
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It's an exhibition RELAX!

It's an exhibition RELAX! Good game played a whole buncha lineups plus I've learned not to under estimate beilein he knows wht he's doing. Plus unlike football, his players actually develop over time

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:32 PM
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We'll be good. We'll be

We'll be good. We'll be really good this season.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:38 PM
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Lineup

Best five-man line-up sans McGary, expect to see these guys get the vast majority of minutes against ISU and in Puerto Rico:

Walton
LeVert
Stauskas
GR3
Horford

Those 5 were all at least +15 +/- tonight and no one else on Michigan's roster was positive. Beilein was experimenting with a lot of stuff but that's the way it's going to work out when the chips are down in a couple of weeks.

But this team can be a whole other beast swapping McGary for Horford.

Also for the poo-poo-ers. This is an exhibition: see #1 Kentucky "scraping" by Montevallo (lol?) in a similar game tonight as well.

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:49 PM
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For An Exhibition Game...

Some team stats:

- 22-28 for free throws

- 24-46 for FGs

- 9-21 for 3FGs

- 31 reounds (25 defensive)

- 16 assists

A pretty good performance overall. 

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November 4th, 2013 at 10:50 PM
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Thoughts
  • Walton needs to control the game more.  Too often I would see him pass the ball as soon as he got to half-court.  He's still figuring out how to pick his spots and that's okay, but right now he's erring on the side of deferrence.  It's nice that Michigan has plenty of guys who can create offense and Walton should not have Trey Burke usage, but there is a reason he is the PG.  At times, the offense devolved into too much one-on-one and stagnation.  As the floor general, Walton is the one who needs to facilitate that.  He'll improve in this regard as the season progresses.  Everything else looks to be in place for him
  • Fast break game was sloppy tonight.  Guys were lazy with passes, made a couple of bad reads...chalk it up to rust and energy level.
  • Bigs besides McGary appear to be JAG's.  Morgan's defensive skills are very good, but if McGary is out, I think the two-post lineup is a poor idea.  For one, it exposes your bigs to foul trouble (risking putting Bielfeldt out there for significant minutes).  For another, it really submarines the offense. 
  • Stauskas has been very, very impressive.  Shot looks pure again and he has improved as a finisher.
  • Then again, so has LeVert.  He reminds me a lot of Jamal Crawford.  That crossover is filthy.
  • Irvin looked better tonight as well.  THJr. 2.0 is not a bad comparison.  Considering he's arguably our 4th-best wing, it tels you how much depth this team has in the backcourt.
  • Which is why as long as McGary is out, there is no reason to play two posts.  Get your best players on the floor
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November 4th, 2013 at 11:53 PM
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The offensive sets

calls for PG to give up the ball almost as soon as they cross half court.  It's not just Walton's being tentative.

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November 5th, 2013 at 1:56 AM
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I will give the game a C+

I will give the game a C+

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