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Michigan vs. Purdue Basketball Open Thread
Guys on the pregame show saying we need to win out for a two-seed, with no chance at getting a one.
Either way, let's start that train rolling tonight.
Sounds good. If we win these final three games a 3 seed is virtually locked up.
Beat Purdue! Also, hoping that Nebraska pulls the stunner in East Lansing...
Here's a link for a stream. It looks like they might have one up already, but I'm sure more will be added closer to gametime.
This video is definitely not streaming. Anyone have a link to a stream that works?
Above the video box it says "Link 1, Link 2, etc". They add more streams as they find them and if one isn't working then try the next one.
That link should come with a warning to format your hard drive after viewing.
It's funny seeing these guys' parents. I'm surprised most of them don't look like Cronin compared to their mothers, though.
Thank you, Zack Novak, Stu Douglass and Corey Person!
Don't forget the volunteer coach with the biggest wingspan in the history of volunteer coaches.
Man, Gus Johnson is calling the game - that means it is going to be closer than it should be.
Annnnnnd they're off.
Gotta hit those bunnies.
Expecting a lot of grit out of Novak tonight.
I hate how low quality the BTN looks for this game. Damn you Comcast!
I signed on to type the exact same thing. Except I was going to follow up with:
Continuing his great shooting percentage. That air ball was pretty as well. Guy needs to add a pump fake to his game. GET TO THE BASKET SON!
0-3 for THJ from the 3-line in the first four minutes. SMH
Man we've come out with no focus or energy. On senior night!
Not a good start. Need to settle down. Timmy should take his man off the dribble. Also need to make the bunnies. Still early
Hardaway taking lots of shots from outside and missing them badly....check.
Morgan missing shots from one foot away....check.
Not a great start.
Hopefully they use this media timout effectively. They need to focus, they're a better team than this, and it's senior night, fergawdsakes.
Haven't had a start like this in a while...
you guys can watch.... FirstRow hasn't got it together yet
Yay, TIMMAYY!! That's the way!
That's exactly what Hardaway needed.
There is a lid on the basket right now. Gotta shoot through it
Niice rebound and a THREE!!!
First row sports isn't working, anyone got a good stream?
How not a charge? Especially when at home?
I thought it was a good no call. His feet weren't really set.
I am 34 and am almost sure Hummel graduated from high school with my older brother.
Purdue really came to play; shouldn't be a surprise they are on the bubble.
Beautiful move few minutes ago, along with drawing attention on his baseline drive and kicking to the open man. Him getting to the basket is about more than just him getting 2 pts.; it makes this TEAM better.
How is it a travel when you get bodied by two guys
In the game preview, Ace suggested that Michigan shoot a lot of threes.
That is the opposite of what they actually should be doing.
Will Michigan wake up before the next time out?
Fuckkkkk......Purdue is banking 3's
hopefully he and vogrich take more and more of thj's minutes.
We're going hit some three and they're gonna miss a few and we'll be winning by halftime.
Woo, THJ get in the paint!
Damn purdue can't miss from 3
This three point shooting can't last right?
Burke is getting MAULED on those hedges.
Has Purdue missed a 3-pt shot yet?
Holy crap...Burke got mugged and no call.
His Jeremy Lin on...
needs to wake up and see that double. that's at least 3 times now. it shouldn't be a surprise.
Burke needs to drive harder into the hedger on the screens, draw some fouls.
TIMMMAAYYY and ONE!!
Offensive foul homie
We should have had senior night before spring break.
A-Hole is getting on my nerves.
Weak charge call. He avoided the contact pretty well but the defender drew the call.
never gets old...kinda like the space commercial
Purdue is 5-7 from deep. Michigan is 2-7. It's a 7 point game.
Come on, Benevolent Law-of-Large-Numbers/Regression-to-the-Mean Loving God, hook a brother up
Crowd sounds dead, even when Michigan got within 4
Edit: forgot it's spring break
what was Smot's hurry just then? damn, get set first
Who is the old guy always sitting by coach?
Glad to see ya young man
Get him out of Crisler please. Let Gus do the game by himself.
I wish I had a dollar for every time I said a variation of that during UConn 2010.
please sit him down for the remainder of the half.
Only down 6 with Purdue making 5-8 from 3? Not too bad
I'm blaming the Maize Rage for all the 3s Purdue has made
Either our half court offense needs work or these guys are psychic.
trying to force to many passes in traffic. kick it back outside.
Crazy finish to Mizzou/KU, but the livestream might be back on: http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/109834/2/watch-purdue-vs-(13)-michigan.html
You have some major work to do this off season. How does Tim Hardaway's son not know how to dribble???
on that replay explaination: Morgan shoulda moved to the ball
Link 2 on FirstRow working for me.
Good job, Tim!
then he gives up a bunny on the other end. now an airball.
Alright guys, let's start a run here. I'm hoping for about a 75-0 run; that would be satisfactory.
Using my big jump stop move to the rack! Nicely done...
I believe these teams are operating on different wavelengths of intensity.
Michigan = ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (up and down, no continuity in team)
Purdue = ---------------------------------------------------- (maintaining their team equlibrium for sure)
Obviously, this has to be adjusted at halftime. It's an easy fundamental.
I was worried about Northwestern's defense, now Purdue's offense (FG % anyone?)
But either way, I know the first half isn't reflective of the whole game. There's a comeback in the making.
GO BLUE and congrats to the Senior Academic All-Americans.
You're dead on in my mind
Tim's 3 needs to be revoked completely. 2 air balls?
i've never seen a guy's game regress so badly.
Morgan can look so wimpy sometimes
Can't wait til we have McGary down there
Tim is not feeling it from the outside right now
As ugly as it's been, we're only down 4. Fortunate, to say the least.
Man THJ looks like a stray dog.
It just seemed like he cant play without Morris...He needs to get drafted by the lakers
Fine with THJ getting a charge if he's aggressive.
Two air balls in a half.... What have u been doing during warmup
After delighting in all the gnashing of teeth on the RCMB, and how hard they are rooting for Purdue, I figured I would join you all.
At least Purdue has been missing some more 3s.
down by 4 as bad as we looked. i will take it.
Not a great half, but hey, we're only down four. Easily doable if we start settling down and hitting shots.
go inside baby
And we go into the half down 4 at home? Not excited by it, but I'll take it.
and only leads by 4. Im feeling pretty good right now
Shitty half and only down four. In pretty good shape
Hardaway has 8 points and is shooting 50% from the field, stop being a bunch if whiny, disrespectful bitches please.
0-4 from 3; 3 TOs, 2 charges and has given up at least 2 easy layups on D, and just 1 rebound.
I dislike the majority of his outside shots as the next guy but the last one ease wide open, needed to be shot; he's just off tonight. His moves to the hoop are awesome though.
Seriously, everyone wants him to drive to the hole, but when he draws a charge some asshole wants him to go back on a plane to Miami. Stay classy guys.
if he did some things on D, i could live with his O struggles. he's the best athlete we have out there and probably the worst guy on D.
I'm fine with some criticism on THJr, but I'm just saying don't be an immature douche while doing it. (Not directed towards you specifically)
I don't unserstand the Purdue with suffocating defense thing. We scored 28 points. It's not like they held us to 17.
7 forced turnovers is why they keep saying suffocating defense.
to suit up in 2nd half
a little smot and morgan out there together with thj on the bench. we would probably get a few more rebounds on both ends.
4/15 from 3. :facepalm:
Why won't Novak pull the trigger?
Why won't Novak pull the trigger?
Than the first. This aint good...
Looks like the ref who just called the charge runs a 13.6 40
Tyrone Johnson is immune to travel calls apparently...smh
Worst rule in college bball. How can a bucket count after a charge is called? Just doesn't make sense.
One of my least favorite calls in basketball. I don't care if the ball was released before the contact. I think that rule should be done away with.
Legitimate question: How can there be an offensive foul (charge) yet the basket still count?
the shot is released before contact
keep it up
Purdue getting tired
and i feel like they were the ones pushing the pace
Whoo hooo! Tied! Looks like we got the momentum!
Gus Johnson is a treat.
THJ's shot isn't long or short, his aim is off left/right consistently.
Why he doesnt get the ball in the post
NO TICKY-TAC FOULS MY PENIS
"watch right here it goes off his leg"
I watched. ????
burke or thj, please wake up.
Why are we the only home team that never gets home cooking? Sorry that we have an upstanding coach that doesn't bitch at every call against him like all the other whiny coaches in the BIG.
Did the officiating just get super shitty in the last four minutes, or is it just me?
Terrible call saying that ball went off of Burke's leg. Beilein's not happy
there you go
its better financially for the big 10 to have Purdue win so we get more teams into the dance. The officials have been notified and are calling the game accordingly.
Where is the crowd? Oh wait Students are on vacation.
They couldn't have stayed in town one more day?
Well, doesnt matter. Purdue's game was not in the student season package.
has been kind of owned on defense tonite.
How the FUCK is that a block!?
Ugh. You have to win in spite of officiating against teams like Purdue. I won't flat out blame refs for this loss. But I genuinely believe a fair game would have us up 4-5 right now.
We should be playing a zone with all of see drives.
this game is FUCKED
Might be the back breaker. Damn.
Freaking senior night, B1G title on the line and they're playing with way more energy than us.
It's not surprising. Their tournament hopes are on the line, and this is their chance to get a marquee win. Purdue's leaving everything on the court.
Still, its frustrating to beat teams like MSU and Ohio, hang with Duke, and then get made an example of by teams we should beat pretty handily. This team is so bipolar.
DAMN YOU HUMMEL!
No one plays defense
Bench Smot. Leaving Hummel wide open twice in a row
Game over. FUCK THIS SHIT
Jeez how many threes does it take for our guys to guard their shooters.
Good shot Novak, c'mon guys!
law of Gus?
This is why you maintain routine and celebrate the seniors after the game.
They're penetrating, we're jacking up threes.
We don't deserve this game.
what do you expect we're down so we're jacking threes?
Pathetic game. Boilers wanted it more. Horrible way to send the Seniors off. Missed a huge opportunity for an undefeated home season. Pathetic.
Ace's protip of "keep shooting the three" could be the worst protip in the history of all protips. I think most people knew it was a terrible idea at the time, but wow. Godawful.
I blame the alumni band
Big Ten title hopes down the shitter
THJ has got to stop shooting 3's.
It's just a terrible loss at home to an unranked team. We'll get 2nd. MSU and OSU will lose one more.
eh, it happens. Not happy about it, but sometime you just have to tip your hat to the team that played better than you. Hopefully this will give us motivation to play better for our next games and more importantly the tournament.
Jordan Morgan passes on an easy 2, this game is over. The inability to cover Tyrone Johnson from driving the lane killed us. Looks like we came out with no energy on freaking senior night. Bad loss.
We absolutely got outcoached. We couldn't figure out that we can't swtich Morgan on the picks. Their guards absolutely tore apart our 4 and 5 when we switched on picks. Easy dribble drive with a lay up or assist. Frustrating as hell to watch. Smots and Morgan are not nearly quick enough to be guarding Purdue's guards.
What happens first, basketball big ten title or Football national championship, I vote National Title
So long B1G championship dreams.
Purdue literally has just influenced the momentum and steadied it throughout the whole second half. Same pace = same results....fack.
Crowd was pathetic. Nobody was ever on their feet or anything.
What a great fucking senior night. fuck this I'm getting drunk on stroh's.
This team is going to get eliminated in the first round playing like that. Unbelievalble
I don't think he's overreacting. Honestly, if they play like they just did, they're not going to win a game in the B1G or NCAA tourney. Simple as that.
Why are we fouling down 12?
The timing of Spring Break and this game obviously didn't help. The atmosphere just isn't the same.
not a good night.
yeah no one in the crowd even cared when we grabbed the lead or were down.
This is is simply not true. I was at the game. Crowd was on its feet when we tied and took the 2 point lead. Yes, the crowd left much to be desired, but don't make false claims.
Fucking-A Jim Jackson. We have won games all year without shooting well from outside. Give it a rest.
oh well. that was a bummer. we will get revenge on Purdon't in the big ten tournament
I actually don't feel bad for the loss, it will teach them a lesson. Plus, it looks like without students there's no spirit or energy what so ever....
Novak and Douglass playing their heart out and Hardaway and Smot don't give a rat's ass about the game.
Clearly we play very well when the team cares about the game, if we can sneak past the first round of the tourny then we could make a run
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P.S. - Fuck.
What are you saying?
A fucklion is on the run.
I'm so fucking sick of Hardaway's effort.
Yep, just can't trust this team. They can hang with Duke and Michigan State one game, then lose at home to a meh Purdue team. Barf.
It happens. Shots just not falling and not a lot of energy on defense. I'm sure Stu and Novak are pissed, but this isn't the last game of the season and I see this firing us up for the next two games and a strong B10 tourney run and NCAA tourney run.
Purdue deserves to win this game. They out-played, out-physicaled, and just out-coached us. Its not really surprising, considering Purdue's tournament hopes are on life-support and they need a signature win. Its no wonder they're going to leave everything on the court and pull out all the stops against us.
Still, this is senior night, and Michigan just came out with zero energy. There's no excuse for that.
Tip of the hat to Purdue, though. They deserve to win, and another B1G team in the tourney makes the conference look that much better.
Bad game, bad atmosphere, alumni band is terrible. Not our night.
Yes, yes I see it now....a signature road win for Purdue in a seemingly home atmosphere. Or neutral site I suppose, take your pick. But as I've said all along, in my eyes there was lack of intensity (or electricitiy) throughout this whollllle game. Needed some kind of catalyst (i.e crowd)
Let's keep jacking up threes and expect to win games. We were lucky to come out with a win against NW and now this. They hedged the screens all game and we never made one adjustment to it. Hopefully we can pull out of this offensive slump we look to be in.
Mostly hardaways fault, if you eliminate him from our 3 point shooting for the season I think we'd be in the 38% range
I really dislike our fans sometimes. Msu's alumni izzone game vs Indiana sounded like a normal game. This game sounded like a damn funeral.
I've attended Michigan football games where I've been surrounded by old rich alumni. Sure they'll buy tickets, but they hardly do more than sit there and consume oxygen. Many choose not to sing the Victors, let alone complete a simple 3-word cheer that I like to call Let's Go Blue.
On the other hand, they won't waste a second to critique the team's performance in-game. Keep in mind I'm not targeting all old rich alumni, just those who don't arrive with the spirit to cheer their team onto victory.
/rant about old rich alumni
I do not take this rant personally. Your welcome.
I could understand a loss to Illinois or Penn State, but at home? on senior night? What the hell
No students = Purdue's home game.
I'm getting so wasted. This team will be alright. This hurts our seeding. All but kills our championship hopes, but this team plays well as dogs. I would have just liked a banner.
Sorry to the people complaining about the 3s. Our problem tonight wasn't offense it was leaving Purdue wide open for the entire game.
Out played, plain and simple. What happened with playing zone? We couldn't guard them 1 on 1.
I AM ANGAR AND DISAPPOINT!!!
We would have won this if the students were there. Crowd was dead all night and reflected on the team. Stu and Novak deserve better for their last home game.
i think the idiot who scheduled our last home game to be during a student break deserves to shoulder some of the blow for todays loss... maize raige has alot to do with the team's run at home.
I was screaming my head off for stretches. It stinks that this is Stu, Zach, and Corey's last home game. I do think they will rebound from this.
of not including spring break game tickets in the student season ticket packages. It made sense back when the team sucked, because it was unlikely the tickets would have gotten used, but today, it would have won us this game.
We would have won this if the students were there. Crowd was dead all night and reflected on the team. Stu and Novak deserve better for their last home game.
The crowd looked lame as fuck.. gave zero energy to the team. THJ continues to be terrible in making shooting decisions. This team decides to try to win again by 3, after the pathetic shooting at NW
At least we're off the bubble.
I HATE EVERYONE
NOBODY LIKES U TOO
Purdue actually been really good lately with the exception of when they lost Byrd for the game against lil bro. It's not the end of the world, but it sucks at the moment.
Lets not overreact. Losing sucks, especially when its a game you should win at home on senior night but we have had a very good season so far and we have a great future. GO BLUE!!
Probably staring down 12-6 or better, 4 or better tourney seed, top 3 in the league. Considering our main gun really had a slump in the league, this has been a great year so far.
The goal is still to be standing on weekend 2 of the tournament. Maybe I am alone, but I never pictured this team winning the league this year, so this near miss is a bonus.
To win in a league like this your main guy has be at his best. Green has been for State.
Play great D. Work for good shots. Play smart. Take threes in the right situations. If you launch threes all night you deserve to get crushed at home. Hardaway is years away from the NBA. After Novak a true Freshman is carrying the team.
Had a lot more to play for and it showed. Shame that we had to blow a perfect home record and any chance of reg season championship. This isn't exactly a good road team either so I'm concerned about the next two.
Just got back from the game. The refs were awful but we still played stupid. Game was sold out but the atmosphere was just O.K. No students for senior night makes no sense. But I'm kind of glad I didn't have to watch the game on TV because I'm sure the commentators had a Robbie Hummel droolfest.
Damn people... were 21-8, 11-5 in the Big 10. It's one loss and were going to get a good seed. The crowd wasn't that bad coming from someone who was at the game, what do you expect with about 10 students being there?
All true, but the really disappointing part is losing any shot at the B1G crown. Bottom line, yes, successful season so far.
Hopefully, the team will work harder and win their remaining road games and play hard in the B1G tournament.
I hate to play the silver lining guy, but this loss isn't the worst thing to happen, especially to Purdue tonight. They played well, very well, whether one wants to hear it or not. Painter had us scouted and his team ready to take us on and it showed.
This game makes some of you think we'll get eliminated first round of the tourney? How about the fact that the way Purdue is capable of playing (tonight, for a random example!) could get them to the Sweet 16; glass half-full outlook but it's true. Yes, Michigan could do themselves some good by fixing a few things in the coming weeks, but this is still a team that's beat Ohio and MSU: possible 1 or 2 seeds.
This loss showed that our GRITTY guys are capable of being outworked. I can't think of a better way to motivate these boys heading into March.
I was there. The atmosphere wasn't as bad as people are describing it, but we definitely missed the students.
Purdue just plain outplayed us. That was probably their best game of the season - 50% shooting, 47% from downtown, 14-16 from the line and only five TOs. We have great difficulty stopping their guards' penetration for whatever reason. It was true in West Lafayette as well but they didn't shoot as well that night. At the other end, their D was stilfling. They threw multiple looks at our pick-and-roll and flustered Burke at times. I think Purdue is just a challenging matchup for us.
Stunk! Why on earth the maize rage seats were allowed to be filled with mutes I'll never understand. There was just no energy in the place tonight.
.....and just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, word is that Byrd skipped the bus ride home to check out a couple of watering holes in AA and beat up one of our bouncers. Come on....
I was there too and the crowd was fine. Not the loudest ever but it was plenty loud. There were numerous times the crowd tried to give energy and I noticed in particular because the students were gone.
As someone said, it was just an off night, and it showed right from the start.