The only thing I remember is driving back from a hockey tournament in heavy snow listening to the game. IIRC it was a freak early November snowstorm.
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
The only thing I remember is driving back from a hockey tournament in heavy snow listening to the game. IIRC it was a freak early November snowstorm.
Well after clicking on the main page link I searched all the comments for a video and didn't see one..
All I remember was Will Carr (NT) carrying the ball and fumbling. May have happened even more than once in that game. It was so long ago my memory is hazy. I remember thinking WTF is a nose tackle doing acting as a RB.
Wasn't that '96, and it cost us the game? I don't remember that experiment happening in '95.
Per The Wolverine Blog:
Carr was so athletic for a big man that Lloyd Carr gave him the chance to be a goal-line running back, and experiment that yielded mixed results. Big Will scored on his first career carry, a three-yard plunge against Michigan State in 1995. However, he was stuffed twice against Purdue that same season, and his only other career carry, at Purdue in 1996, was a disaster. Down 3-0 to the Boilermakers late in the first half, the Wolverines drove from their own 13-yard line down to the Purdue two-yard line. On first-and-goal, Carr fumbled, and Purdue would go on to win 9-3, securing their first victory over U-M since 1982 and ruining the Wolverines’ Rose Bowl hopes.
Are you proving yourself wrong?
The game in 1995 was at home in the muck, 5-0. The 1996 game was at Purdue the week they announced Colletto would be gone at the end of the season, and Carr fumbled at the goalline at the end of the first half ion a 9-3 loss.
Yes, I am proving myself wrong. Just thought I'd provide that snippet to confirm which year was which. It was quite a while ago. I never claimed to be right!
Just came off as worded funny. Usually when someone says something was "Per" something, it's usually showing how they were right. But what you put was obvious, so I didn't think you were still mistaken. Just confused by the post.
So now you are right......right?
It was cold and wet ... awful sitting there watching your team implode. After the Carr fumble I was so pissed. On the way home I called WJR (even though I could even get the radio signal) just so I could vent. Trust me ... my boys still remember that trip home. Only now ... they both understand.
But Lloyd was super conservative as well. The Purdue coach was real conservative as well. Purdue couldnt move the ball at all. I want to say Purdue barely got across midfield just once in the second half.
The next year was actually worse, Michigan lost 9-3 in West Lafayette.
Everyone joked that it was Lloyd (low scoring) Carr in the beginning. The first two years were rough, 9-4 and 8-4. Then Michigan had probably its best 3 year stretch in a long time, 12-0, 10-3 and 10-2. From then on the heat was off until Tressel and the Horror.
I remember watching that game with my dad and him explaining to me how uncommon of a score that was.
it rained, snowed, and sleeted. and despite wearing long johns, a sweatshirt, time appropriate colorado rockies starter jacket, and a poncho, was absolutely frozen to my core...but stayed for the duration of what could only be described as the ugliest football game i have ever witnessed.
Trust me, you do NOT want to see it. All video evidence should have been destroyed.
Freezing rain, sleet, snow and a wind chill that reached 20 below. 60% of the field looked like it was dried mud. And the weather was miserable from kickoff.
Remy Hamilton missed 2 field goals, normally chip shot FG's for him in normal weather. We also had an end zone interception, but I can't remember if Griese threw it or if it was a trick play end around pass. We had 17 first downs to Purdue's 4. I believe the boilers had one scoring threat all day.
For the record, I have had over 30 different people email me this past year asking me to upload highlights of this game and I finally got a copy of it 2 weeks ago. But I give it a C+ in terms of picture quality. I can still upload it if you'd like.
Please do! I'm intrigued.
Please do WH! That game has always been a mystery to me in how sloppy of a performance it was. A win is a win though! No matter how ruthless mother nature was that day.
hey, what's your email? I have the master broadcasts of a few games from the 2010 season in HD that I think you might like
when it cuts to commercial the camera stays focused on the field (typically on the sidelines) and the announcers audio is still on
you'd be pretty amused by some of Millen's comments from a few of the games.
Thanks! Send me a pm to my YouTube account and I'll give you my email.
As a record of a unique game in Michigan's recent history, I would like to see it.
Is it like a 2 minute video?
I mean I watched Purdue '04 (why was Purdue such a pain in the ass, particularly down there?) earlier, and I think you edited me out. (Though I was never sure if I made it on camera...Mike Hart almost ran me over going left to right, so it would be the reverse for the camera).
I uploaded 04 Purdue 3 years ago. Almost all my videos from that year are badly edited and rushed. I was still learning what I was doing. Eventually, those will all have to be reuploaded.
As for this game, I can upload more than just the 5 points. There were other drives that were good but ended with no points. And that also leaves plenty of room for defense and shots of the crowd, well, freezing to death.
Im to young to remember the game, but I've heard of it a few times and with that score I've always wanted to see it.
That game stands out in my mind for the simple reason that i didnt see it. I live in Cleveland and tailgate with my brother and a bunch of guys from Michigan right outside of Chrysler. That particular day I drove 3-4 hours (very bad weather)...parked...walked to the spot the tailgate USUALLY was held...only to see a lot of empty parking spots. We hudled in the overhang from Chrysler waiting for everybody to show up and for the first and only time in almost 25 years....nobody came.
After consuming what beers we had we decided it was time to head back home.
Sorry man, really don't mean to be a douche, just have to respect Fritz.
I was supposed to go to that game, but I had the flu and stayed home. Which ended up being a wash, because my entire family went and came home sick.
It's still talked about amongst us as the worst weather anybody can ever remember in Michigan Stadium since the 70's. Just absolutely terrible.
1988 Minnesota would be ranked just behind. No sleet or snow but freezing rain through most of the day. Like 95-Purdue, about half the stadium crowd couldn't take the cold any longer and left after halftime. It was a late start as well that ended under the portable lights. In the press conference afterwards, Bo said Michigan would no longer have any 3:30 home games in November under his watch.
IIRCC that game started out at near the 70 degree mark then a cold front blew through in the 2nd quarter dropping the temp to near 40 with unbearable wind and rain. I was in my final year of grad school and came to the game in a t-shirt and left at halftime frozen. Fortunately I lived on State Street across from Shembechler Hall so it was a quick sprint home to watch the 2nd half on TV.
Even done in 1988? I didn't think it opened till 1990, after he retired (and they named it for him).
Schembechler Hall opened in 1992, if memory serves.
That's usually in the top 2 or 3 for sure. Also up there is Boston College '96 (most rain I can remember at a Michigan game), Ball State '07, Northwestern '08.
I just remember standing on top of a bleacher in that BC game watching about 2 or 3 inches of water flowing like Niagara under my seat, and gigantic, deep pools of water in every corner of the field level. Insane.
'92 Illinois is somewhere up there. That's the snowiest game I've ever seen at Michigan Stadium. Neither team could hold onto the ball.
What's interesting is that our bad-weather games always seem to occur a week or two before OSU. For OSU itself, the weather is generally passable (1950 excepted).
I was at that game. I remember my clothes getting soaked on the way in and then turning to ice by halftime. On the plus side, we were able to move way down the bowl by then because so many people had cleared out.
You could pretty much sit wherever you damn well pleased by halftime. My dad and I ended up sitting at about the 40. We moved around a few times just to keep the blood flowing. An awful experience (that I would not trade for anything).
The amount of people left in the stands goes to show that.
I came wearing a light coat with a raincoat over it (no idea why). Either way, no winter hat or gloves. All I could do was put my hands in the pockets of the raincoat to try and keep them warm, but the pockets were basically filled with ice water from the sleet/snow aspect of things. I left at the half when I couldn't feel my hands anymore. I was a freshman and I was woefully unprepared for a lot of games back then, including 95 Northwestern (which was windy/cool and I had a T-shirt and shorts on), Purdue, and BC in the rain the next year.
Back to the Purdue game -- I just remember a FG in the first half, about a million punts, and a safety in the 2nd half after I went to the Union to warm up.
Awesome game! My Mom made me leave in the 3rd quarter. I never forgave her...
That game was by far the worst weather game I've ever been to. My father and I sat in the sound end zone...What still stands out to me were 20 seconds in the third quarter when the sun came out and the crowd went wild. It was truly an amazing feeling for those who were left in the stadium.
I seem to remember Driesbach playing for Michigan and lots of fumbles and missed field goals with a Michigan safely in the north end zone. I know Mike Alstott was the Purdue back and it seems like they handed off to him 30+ times.
One for the ages...
I remember nothing of the game, as nothing much happened. What I do remember is my jeans freezing in the seated position. The freezing rain pelted them all game to soak them, and the cold froze them that way.
I also remember the laugh from the crowd when they announced the +100,000 attendance in the second half.
Crazy game. My dad refused to go -- and take me, at the time far too young to go by myself -- after taking one look outside and checking the weather report in the newspaper. His old college roommate was in town for the game with his kids, decided to brave the elements, and they were all back by halftime. I distinctly remember the roommate's two sons seeking out the nearest heating vents that had a view of the television and sitting on them for the duration of the second half.
That's one I don't even regret not going to, considering the circumstances and the quality of the game.
My memory is also a bit hazy, but I think the sequence of the weather phenomena was indeed rain, followed by some type of sleet/hail/death ice combination, and then the temperature plunging well below freezing. I still can't believe I lasted through to the end.
Anyway, I think a major factor in the score ending at 5-0 was the condition of the field. Keep in mind we still had natural grass at that time. Between the 20s the field was in very poor condition--muddy, with clods of turf here & there and some standing water. But inside the 20s it looked like footage of the "no man's land" between the French & German lines in WWI. So, sure enough, the teams were somewhat able to move the ball between the 20s, but whenever somebody would get close enough to possibly score, they would have to deal with the turf monster from hell.
I distinctly remember the safety. It came on a play where Purdue snapped it from around the 2-yard-line and Mattison brought #17 Clarence Thomspon on a corner blitz. I spotted it immediately, but the Purdue QB never did.
I remember sitting in every part of the stadium as the wind changed. The stadium was half full at best. I remember seeing a mom (not dressed for the weather) sitting with her young (probably 10 - 12 year old) son. Looked like it was his first game and he was really into the game. She looked totally miserable, but as a good MGoMom, she sat there and let him have his day. Seems like I was around section 26 at that time. We ended the game sitting in section 1 (on the 50). With a couple minutes to go in the game Michigan had the ball right in front of us and I was thinking the only thing that could go wrong was a pick-6. On the next play the QB rolled out, turned back and threw a swing pass to the other side. A Purdue defender stepped in front of it and had a sure pick-6, but dropped the pass. I also remember the D being all over Mike Alstott of Purdue. He really had no room to run that day.
In remembering other bad weather games (though no where near the Purdue game or some of the others mentioned) was one against Boston College in like 96 or so. Driving rain coming in sideways. It was in September though, so the temp was not near what it was in this Purdue game
Boston College 1996 is where I earned my first Fan Endurance badge, I'd rate it at a level I*
I only had a barn jacket and I thought I would be fine. It had rained, and it stopped, so the student section was wet, and I distinctly remember a Marianas Turkey Shoot marshmallow and wet newspaper fight before the game started, back in the day when you used to be able to bring marshmallows to the game. The first half was relatively dry, occasionally spitting at you, and then halftime hits and all of the sudden, the skies open up and hell rains down upon thee. But by the middle of the third quarter, the downpour was over, everyone was soaked, and the game eventually ended.
*-We really need to build the Fan Endurance Badge list, complete with graphics, special modifiers (ie the CMU "Return to your cars!" moment), and bonuses for Road Game Fan Endurance (2008 Notre Dame, 1999 Northwestern in the Muck and the Mire, etc.)
But the ORIGINAL Fan Endurance that might have been worse than Purdue is the Snow Bowl. The Game lore at it's finest.
But the coldest I've ever been in my life. Had a raincoat on because it was POURING, but it didn't matter, because everything got soaked. And it was just above freezing. Then the temperature dropped. Sleet, freezing rain, turning to snow. So we were all forming ice, and there was no where to warm anything.
The "consecutive" games over 100,000 is a wink-wink situation, because no way were there 100,000 at the game, and by the end there was under 20,000. And most of us were huddled under the old press box. I don't think I warmed up for days. Just wanted the game to end...and wondered what the Hell I was doing there.
As for the game, I remember a Purdue fan being not that upset over the safety, because he'd give up the 2 points for the field position. And a receiver (Mercury Hayes?) jumping out of bounds, hydroplaning, and sliding on his belly by the seats and drink buckets for like 10 yards.
Here's a few screen caps from the Purdue game. It looked like a blizzard in the first half. In the second half, the snow died down but the sleet and wind remained. There's a shot of the crowd in the 1st quarter and one in the 4th quarter.
In person. But man, did our turf suck after we lowered the field. That was horrible.
I'm surprised how many people were there at the kickoff. I remembered the stadium being a lot more empty than that. I guess it was fairly full at the beginning.
I cannot fathom how brutal it must have been for those shirtless Purdue fans. Wow. I was massively bundled up that day and still was miserably cold and wet.
I was in the band that year. On the way over, 50ish degrees and driving rain. Field full of mud in pre game, I took a dive in pre game. Between then and halftime the temp dropped 30 degrees or so, it was sleeting/icing/snowing at us in a driving wind. We did some sort of a Dudley do right show that game, and I remember some girl who was going to be the "damsel in distress" to be rescued accidentally got body slammed into the mud when her would be rescuer slipped. I couldn't feel my hands by the end, and managed to light my glove on fire warming it up on one of the sideline heaters. The game was equally as painful. The field was so muddy you could barely move on it. That's why it was 5-0.
These are some great stories. I cannot wait to see those highlights now.
I remember just struggling to feel my hands. I had pretty decent student seats that first year, but recall getting really close to the field as the crowd dissipated. Always proud that I stuck it out for that one all the way to the end.
Will Carr was a really cool (and smart) guy. I had him in a couple Comm Studies classes and was amazed at how short he was. He was listed at 6-0 or 6-1, but he was maybe 5-10 and about 300 lbs. Didn't look fat at all though. And was ALWAYS in class, as all Lloyd players were in those days.
I believe that was Parent's weekend in 1995. Actually, it was. My parents came up to the game, and all I remember was they had left before halftime, deciding to listen to the game in their car near in a parking garage. I stayed and by games end, yes, there were only about 25-30,000 fans left. Neither offense could do anything.
What stands out the most was the confrontation that occurred on Hoover as everyone was approaching Greene. The scalpers were offering tickets for well above face value. So, the older Michigan fans that were headed to the game, freezing and wondering why they were going, started to taunt the scalpers about their prices. I think there were remarks like, how about you pay me $50 for that ticket, or why don't you buy my ticket for $50. Or something to that effect. The scalpers were not happy, but seriously, no one was going to that game at that point unless they'd already spent money on tickets.
Other bad weather games included Minnesota in 1997 and Purdue in 1999 (which helped because Purdue receivers were dropping Brees passes all over the place).
97 Minnesota? I went to that game and while it was cloudy and grey, the rain held out and it wasn't THAT cold for the 1st of November. I didn't even wear a coat.
About an hour after our game finished was when the rain came down in buckets. I watched the bucks destroy MSU in East Lansing in a downpour and I remarked to my dad how lucky that we got our game over with before the weather went to hell.
Wolverine Historian if can do some uploads of some of the bad weather games that Michigan was involved in and won. I know that I'll probadly get neg-banged for mentioning this because many those games were either boring or just a flat out disaster but I was always curious in some of the games how Michigan handle some of the worst weather conditions that the BigTen and or the other games threw at us.
I was going to to the game with a freind with whom I had attended at least 60 games I lived around Packard and Stadium. We started to walk to the game, said FTS, got some beer, and watched it on TV. That was the only time the weather was bad enough that either of us decided not to go to a Michigan game.
We were very happy that we made that choice. The weather would have been enough torture, but the game might have been even worse.
game also, i when my dad and i picked up my uncle and cousin the tempature was around 55 and cloudy. The weather report came on the radio shortly after we left and said that there would be: rain, freezing rain/sleete and snow by game time my uncle then said that there was no way the temp would drop that fast. When we got to our parking spot in AA it started to sprinkle and went from there. As others have said above it was by far the worst weather game I have ever been to, at one point my poncho just blew off of me. Stoney from 97.1 (WDFN at that time) sat behind us at the game and did not come prepared at all, he was wearing a thin jacket and sweater. At halftime he disapeared and never came back the seats. the next day my dad felt the need to call into 1130 and give Stoney a hard time about leaving at halftime, he said that he went to the victors club to watch the rest of the game.
there are 2 other things that I remember from that game: chuck winters had the cleanest uniform out of any player and he played the whole game and mike alstott set the rushing record for a full back.
I was sitting in the northeast corner that day. I remember watching the entire student section jumping up and down like they were trying to stay warm. The running joke for years has been that when my mother comes to the game, bad weather ensues. After that game, my cousin told her that she could make it snow in a dome.
Also, people have mentioned the '96 BC game. I remember that being a monumental downpour, but it wasn't that bad because it was also pretty warm. I was soaked, but I wasn't cold. It doesn't compare to the Purdue game, where everyone got soaked early, then their clothing froze.