Warm ups look great. Limber baby!
Michigan vs Penn State bball open thread
Let's Go Blue!
Here is how TeamRankings stacks them up....
|Avg Score Margin||+3.6||+14.3|
|Effective FG %||51.4%||55.7%|
|Off Rebound %||26.6%||27.6%|
|Opp Effective FG %||47.2%||47.6%|
They seem almost even if you go by stats only, until you see UM has+11 on them in avg win margin.
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I'll be watching the game and attempting to grill a steak on a cheap grill in 15 degree weather. College!
It is safe to say that BIG Ten is the best baskebtall conference in the nation for a few years now. Despite it safe to say that BIG Ten has the best basketball coaches of any conference as well. With the success, it does not seem that the BIG Ten teams are getting huge recruiting classes similar to the Kentuckys, Floridas, Dukes, NCs, Kansas, etc. However, the success seams to be there year round.
Make it rain!
Walton opens the game up with a nice three and then goaltending on Penn State. 5-0 Michigan.
Walton looking very solid early
Woof, don't think Robinson should've settled for that shot.
3 turnovers already for them!
Penn State looks absolutely terrible.
Walton feelin' it.
Anyone with a stream?
XRXS isn't working and VIP box/firstrow aren't up yet.
Walton becoming a much better player as the season progresses.
As i'm sitting here looking at 4 feeds, none of which have started showing the game yet *sigh*
working for me
Try using Chrome. Also it needs a high speed connection to prevent lagging / cutting out.
I love you
This one worked for me.
Really like the unselfishness of this team... Everyone willing to make that extra pass.
I feel like Penn State applying that pressure is going to hurt them.
Ed: Obviously needs to be said twice.
Nice cut there, Nik!
I wish we could play Penn State every time.
we're looking a lot better than we did vs. PSU at home last season. I attended that one and watched a very lethargic effort by Michigan.
Holy dance team batman. Homina.
Can someone gif that?
I'm sure it's been stated before but who's the older man that sits courtside next to Beilein?
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.
Penn State hand checks and bumping a bit. Don't necessarily mind it, hope they let us play a little physical.
Sharing the ball OK early, other than having some issues with the pressure. Not sure what Robinson was doing going one on four there, though.
Walton is gonna be a really good player when he takes on a bigger role next year.
I miss Mitch so much.
I can't help compare almost everything Morgan does to how I imagine Mitch would do it better.
being waved again!
Maybe Glenn'll run back on defense one of these possessions.
The soft layup we missed and the missed alley oop were met with a resounding "meh" in my apartment. Hate to see those.
I'll continue to say it: We need to run the offense through Stauskas more. More pick and rolls with the ball in his hands plz
He makes plays with the ball in his hands... >->
Glenn Robinson was fouled on the breakaway earlier. Other than that, the refs have been pretty good.
LAZY im not all in it or here games...I hate that about him..I N C O N S I S T E N T
Where the fuck is the And -1 on that Horford lay-in! We cant buy a call on offense right now
I just came here to say that that was a BS blocking call on Levert.
It was the right call.
Clearly did not get set in time.
Irvin's 3 was wayyy off.
We can get any shot we want.
Need moar Stauskas PnR.
Robinson got fouled hard there, no call.
GR3 just got fouled again. We better not be called for those on the defensive end.
So Robinson didn't get fouled on that rebound attempt?
Would be nice if we could pull further ahead of these guys, because PSU is playing like garbage.
Could this be the Walton break out game? It seems like the game is starting to slow down a little for him. I think the kid has it in him to be a really good PG.
WAT? A Penn St foul??
J Morgan with a tattoo?
The defense and free throw shooting are improved today.
Let's keep up this margin!
He crushes one from the top of the arc in every game. I love it.
Woo hoo! I hope our defensive improvement is for real and not just a product of the Penn State factor.
Every single time we beat someone off the dribble they grab us so badly that our ball handlers change direction and we still dont get a whistle.
LeVert with the Stauskas-like assist there. That's a part of his game I've been hopeful to see develop. Good play!
nice nice passing for an easy JAMMMMMMMMMMM!!!
Every time Spike shoots an NBA-range three, I think it's in.
You gottta love Morgan. He doesn't pout when McGary's starting in the NCAA tourny and now he's the starter for his senior season.
DEATH TO BACKBOARDS
Caris passed up an open 3 for a dish and dunk, nice to see him have a good game on both ends thus far.
This is a little late, but we have the ugliest girls at Michigan.
good (I am so sure) looking
that foul in GRIII on that one.
Team looks more alive at home, which is great to see. This initial run of games has been alternately refreshing and terrifying, but a win today gets them to 4-0 in the conference before the gauntlet begins in Madison.
Wait. Spike scored 17 points in the first half of the National Championship Game? I never knew that before.
We have many good drinking game opportunities:
-Not Just a Shooter
-17 points in national championship first half
-Beilein's never been an assistant
I always like seeing Morgan get excited. He drives me crazy sometimes but the kid deserves some quality minutes for the four years he has put in.
Michigan has plenty of good looking girls. We have 44000 students and they're not all ugly. It's just a MSU meme similar to the Walmart wolverine meme that is supposed to make us feel bad about ourselves.
After going to school at Michigan and haven been on most other campuses in the Big Ten and I have to say that we are pretty bad as an overall assessment.
Neg away, but I bet a bunch of you would agree. Hell, even my Dad when he went to school here told me that they used to say that 9/10 girls in the Big Ten were good looking and the 10th went to Michigan.
1. many of us here have wives we met at Michigan, along with sisters and daughters who have attended U of M
2. There is absolutely no reason to believe that the "men" on campus are any better looking than the women viv-a-vis other campuses.
3. Look in the mirror.
4. Apparently, bad manners runs in your family
They also used to call MSU Cow College and Moo U. But then MSU called us names back that would get them arrested today. So glad we've matured.
However, it's true that women who are intelligent enough to want to go to Michigan for an education may be less likely to do themselves up like pin-up girls. (I think that's what they used to call them, in those earlier days.) Takes time away from studies. Doesn't mean that a bucket of make-up and hair-dye and hairspray can't make them more suitable for guys with those particular tastes, but they'd probably be too intelligent for that.
Stauskas in the corner for 3! Frazier heating up with 7 quick points for PSU.
Penn State cuts the lead down to 7.
Wisconsin just made their first free throw of the game in assembly hall. They have shot only four. Who isn't surprised.
To be fair indiana has only shot 8
Feels like we should be up 20, Penn State closes the half on a 10-3 run.
Turn to IU/Badgers game
like we really remember last year. Pour it on in the second half!
Ugh - we're letting this junky team hang around. The missed front end by Nik followed by the 3 by PSU was a really irritating sequence.
Honestly, we should be up 15 easy. Kind of unsettling how close it still is after Penn State spent the first 15-16 minutes looking like Houston Baptist.
Assembly Hall is such horseshit.
That front end 1 & 1 miss followed by a runout leading to a Penn State three really hurt.
Indiana has gotten just about every single big call tonight. Wisconsin getting totally screwed.
Assembly Hall tends to have that effect.
no one has ever been screwed at the Kohl Center.
Indiana wins 75-72.
As much as I hate Wisconsin that game pisses me off.
Storming the court? Does this qualify?
Wow. Indiana rushing the court after a home victory against Wisconsin. Sad.
Aren't most court-stormings the home team? I feel like the visitors rushing the court would be ... awkward. Anyways, they haven't beaten Wisconsin since 2007 and they just beat a very good Wisconsin team when many wrote them off as a listless bubble team.
Still though. They spent a lot of last year at the top of the rankings and it's only four games into the big ten season. It's not like they are rivals with Wisconsin either. I think it was a bit much.
Not sure why fans have a problem with rushing the court. It's fun.
Ha fair point on the home team, but I still think it's pretty ridiculous. You're the reigning Big Ten champions and the most storied program in the conference. You shouldn't be rushing the court for Wisconsin four games into the conference season.
Well... Wisky's going to be playing with a chip on their shoulder on Saturday... Should help our mentality knowing that they are beatable, however.
Don't really like having to play a revenge-minded Wisconsin next.
Why? We're not the ones they're seeking revenge against.
Some halftime numbers....
|Field Goal %||52.17%||50.00%|
|3 Point %||33.33%||42.86%|
|Effective FG %||58.70%||60.71%|
|Free Throw %||85.71%||85.71%|
|Free Throw Rate||30.43%||25.00%|
|Off. Reb. %||27.27%||14.29%|
|Def. Reb. %||85.71%||72.73%|
|Assist / TO Ratio||0.714||6.000|
and jump around. We won the half!! Let's show Indiana what a silly celebration looks like!!
Was that Zoidberg in the stands?
Need company for a basketball game? Why not Zoidberg?
I know I'm not alone in this but I won't be changing the channel after the game
This half time seems longer than usual for some reason
How many front end of 1&1s has Nik missed this year. Seems like a ton.
Did anyone else notice that the official Michigan Basketball twitter @umbball is suspended?
Handle is @umichbball
Dat Crisler home-cookin'. Oh wait, that was on Morgan? Sheeit.
Seriously though. The camera man is loving him that dance team girl.
Anyone else getting a weird chirping noise in the background or is that just my cable?
Lead down to 3, PSU on a 14-3 run going back to the 1st half.
i feel like Levert is missing some pick and roll passes that Stauskas sees.
When we need points, Caris is there.
If Caris Levert has no interest in playing defense, sit his ass on the bench. I'm so sick of watching this.
guys are standing around on defense
Yep, well, we're doing that thing where we let a bad team hang with us again.
This a pathetic team defensively. Absolutely pathetic
Beilein needs to realize this and start going to the zone. Our defense against screens is horrible and people take us one on one to the hole for 2 seemingly at will.
A zone doesn't automatically cover up for lack of defense, if teams can beat us 1 on 1 off the dribble, and can easily penetrate the zone that way, welcome to dunks and lay ups all day.
Levert with one of his patented turnovers
to specialize in that category.
I sincerely had hope for our defense for a lot of that 1st half, but now we're just standing around looking thoroughly uninterested in defending. I guess that was more a product of Penn State turning the ball over on all the possessions than our defense though.
We played good defense the first 15 minutes but since then it's been pretty awful.
This is ridiculous. This team finds a way to keep every opponent in the game no matter how outclassed they ought to be. Don't get me wrong, it's not like we're an elite team ourselves. But we ought to be solidly ahead of a bad team that spent most of the game playing very poorly.
GO TO THE ZONE, JOHN B!!!!!!
I wonder if JB doesn't think the players are ready for the zone? Have we played it at all?
Wow they can't miss a shot. Points on 7 of their last 8 trips.
PSU scoring on almost every possession now. This is ridiculous.
Every team we play shoots over 50% from the floor. I'm old fat and out of shape, but the way this team plays defense I could pick up 4 other Mgobloggers and we would shoot above 50%
The good news is that 14 of our 18 baskets have been assisted.
supposed to be this close.
out rebounded by a 3 guard lineup?
Horford has always been a surprisingly good free throw shooter for a big.
Now we've picked up the defensive intensity.
with the alley oop suction cup hands.
and boom goes the dynamite
GLENN ROBINSON III
Sportscenter top 10?
Well, looks like we woke back up a little...
out of watching college bball
Yay for made free throws!
13-14 from the line is marked improvement.
with the NBA-esque stepback three
Refs playing catchup for fouls now.
Actually I have no idea, I just like to complain sometimes.
Should have been a hook on fraiser.
Spike with a terribly-shot 3 there.
Stauskas makes driving into the lane look so easy.
Almost as easy as we make it on every single team we play....
Offense is a bit out of rhythm right now.
Penn State getting away with knocking us to the ground, again.
we had three people start running the fast break but none of them went for the rebound. whoops.
5 point swing.
We are so weak in the paint defensively
when it's 5-on-4, can't have stauskas covering nobody
Walton just got flat clobbered and then they hit a three. Cheap five point swing right there.
Do we ever get calls?
Refs are the worst i've seen this far. Most be Big Ten play. Walton getting killed.
Commentators touched on this a bit. Coaches changed the way they coach defense for the nonconference part because of the harsher hand-checking rules and stuff, so far through conference play they've backed off of it a lot and it's open season.
Am I the only one who thinks Penn State is getting away with a lot? I know the fouls are (were?) tipped fairly heavily in our favor, but this looks ridiculous. Maybe it's the maize and blue shades.
I don't understand the touch fouls. It seems like they call them totally randomly even on the same possession.
that have been called blocking fouls against us in previous games--even in late-game situations.
but i don't think some of the loose-ball collisions are worthy of fouls.
Went with that small lineup a bit too long. Just have to withstand this last run and we'll stay tied atop the conference.
How about a little intensity on D? We're just standing around and watching.
with the huge circus shot.
but then absolute terrible d on the other side. jeez
DW Jr. is having a damn nice game.
Out of their asses tonight.
We are giving them lots of uncontested threes. Most college teams can make those.
A lot of teams seem to do that against us.
Walton with the weak hand too
Sure seems soft. A lot!
I can't wait to stop playing the conference bottom feeders. These are no-win situation games. We won, we do nothing but hold serve. We lose and it's a HUGE loss. Even though we have a tough stretch coming up, I for one, and looking forward to seeing what this team is made of. Unfortunately, I have a feeling I may not like it - especially defensively.
OMG... ZONE!!! AND IT WORKED!
Stauskas has a nice touch tonight at the rim.
WAT DA FUQ
We can't buy a charge call.
F U ref!
Holy fuck that's a charge! He pitched a tent outside the arc there.
Jesus. How are we still getting hosed by the refs at home?
The only team that regularly gets fucked AT HOME!
Terrible blocking foul call, we'll add that to the other two questionable ones.
I have no idea what is a charge and what is a block anymore...and neither do these officials
We've had a half dozen charges by last year's standards called against us as blocks tonight.
Ok that one was bad.
What is a charge?
This is atrocious.
What a horrible fucking call
He was about to signal a charge
That was the easiest charge call ever . . . and the ref blew it.
We have to be the only big time program that doesn't get home cooking.
Just to reiterate... that was a charge. W.T.F.
that levert was still moving out of the circle when the psu player was gathering to jump.
but that would be a weak argument.
that was a charge.
BALL DON'T LIE
For the first time in 10 years.
The refs act scared to call a charge this year. It is getting silly with the hestitancy on calling charges
Umm.... no charge? WTF
The charge call and how it is called this year has really affected our overall defense. Last year it seemed like we got a few of those a game. This year those are now blocking fouls and it's hurting how we play defense.
Kenpom looking really good right now.
but do you play games on Kenpom?
Little Big Dog SLAM!
IS KENPOM EVER WRONG
Yes. He'll by wrong by one tonight.
Did bite Wisconsin in the ass, Kenpom had them by 4 over IU I believe.
GRIII better watch that hanging on the rim - he might get T'd up at an in opportune time.
He was trying to get one foul shot for Penn State so that Kenpom would be exactly right.
Not at home baby.
Well.... glad we're 4-0, because it's about to get a whole lot tougher.
Hopefully it's a rise to the occaison situation and we really play up to our competition. Though I think it's reasonable to expect 1-2 over the next 3, and quite optimistic to expect 2-1 (3-0 seems laughable to me).
Now for some history...
Is pretty smart. Little closer than it needed to be for a bit, but never seemed like we were not in control. Walton's play continues to improve, and would love to see us be able to get 10+ every game on slick little passes to theirs for dunks. Times to put big boy pants on; schedule gets rough here for a few.
Can MGoVideo or someone record the Big Ten Elite and put it online?
Nice to start 4-0, but I'm not sure I really see this team competing for the Big Ten Title this year.
Nothing wrong with that.
We lost two NBA first round picks to the draft and the guy who was our best player in the tourney to injury. Not many programs could recover from that to compete for a conference title, especially in the B1G.
I'm fine with being the 4th best team in the conference this year.
...and if we can steal a game or two of the next 3, then we're in pretty damn good shape.
But that's mostly because we still want to win every game and (happily) the past few years have really raised expectations for the team. It's amazing that we can have lost two excellent college players two years early (who were also high draft picks--those don't always correlate) and our best returning player and still have expectations in an absolutely brutal league. Thanks Coach B!
I just can't get over the disappointment that Mitch is out indefinitely and will likely be gone after this year. Our big guys have filled in admirably, but we'd be a much better team with him.
Likely be gone is a pretty big assumption.
It's a loaded draft. Back problems are scary for NBA teams. He's already kinda old, and all of his potential is essentially from a sample of a half dozen games, which by the draft will have been over a year ago with barely any games since.
Most projections I've seen have him at the very end of the 1st, usually in the 2nd round. That's not too exciting to come out for - if he proves he's healthy and successful next year, he'll improve on that position, especially with a weaker draft.
Stauskas, though ... he might go. I've seen him quoted as saying the NBA is his singular dream.
good to play well going into the next three games.
I'm glad we are 4-0 and have taken care of businnes on the weak part of our schedule but I can't shake the feeling that this team is only going to be slightly above .500 in the big ten this year, don't see a lot of road wins in the future. Hope im wrong though.