I agree with you on THJ but Smotrycz is a good three-point shooter. He's been in a slump but he's 1-2 today.
Michigan vs. Ohio State Basketball Open Thread
All right some of you guys need to take a chill pill! This is an away game in a hostile environment against the Evil Empire, the guys are a little wired and this is the the college basketball version of a knife fight...
This was a really good half for our squad
How is every three in and out?!
Smot just got grabbed when he pump faked... no foul?
what the hell was that??
So glad we haven't sold naming rights to our arena.
End of 1st, 24-21 the bad guys.
Sucks we're down but a 3 point deficit is nothing that can't be made up...
These possesions at the end of a half are the worst ever.
Why do we suck on last possessions of halves? Out of a timeout, even!
The way Rafferty is slobbering all over the hairless nuts you would think we were losing by 30.
That last possession was a clusterfuck. And not the good kind.
Brushed off Burke twice in that possession.
We missed some opportunities, but kept the ball away from Sullinger, rebounded well, and generaly took god shots. Gona have to have another half just like it and then some.
you must be watching a different game
hurt a bit right now.
Overall VERY proud of this team in the first half. A few costly mistakes, but we're very much in this game. Go Blue!
than without him being in there; he better not get into foul trouble...
about basketball, but M does not look overmatched at the moment
These announcers make me want to throw a brick through my window. STFU already.
And this places blows up? Must be a big game, eh?
24-21. Could be better, could be worse. McGary can't arrive soon enough.
Not a bad first half on the road against a #4 team. However, need to stop the turnovers to be able to win this one. Craft is playing epic defense on Burke right now. Burke's playing good defense as well, but whoever wins that battle will win this game.
I think Burke has played pretty good so far. He had a run of about a min where he was a bit out of control, but he got back under control.
But he's not the savior people are making him out to be. I think even having Horford would make a difference in this game.
He is known to be a good rebounder. It is pretty clear that we need lots of help on both the offensive and defensive glass right now.
It's just a big body with some actual talent so we can stop watching the other team play volleyball over our heads on rebounds.
Shooting looks about even, Michigan is slightly better but still not great with the 3's. Turnovers and passing are still problematic. I think there is a lot of good things we can build on in the second half. It's nice to be competitive on the road.
Morgan needs to stay out of foul trouble and stay in for most of the second half
Not having Horford hurts more than people think. We really need some depth there. Also, how did we hold OSU to 24 pts? Great defense
Agreed. This type of game favors Michigan. OSU lives on runs and high-scoring and the turnovers that fast-paced ball creates.
I think we're all aware how much not having horford hurts us
I really wish Beilein would keep Morgan in until he fouls out, that frustrates me
We hit three's and we're going to win it. Also, I think we have fewer turnovers in the 2nd half and get to the line. We pull it out 60-57
weren't we like the first team ever to win a ncaa tourny game w/o making a free throw? i wouldn't mind a repeat here.
Maximum grit road win.
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That dude should have gotten a technical foul on that...
Agreed. There should be a technical for flops.
I love RVB
spoken like a true genius. we'll miss you next year, RVB
I <3 RVB
Is he hurt or just not playing well? Perhaps I'm thinking he's taller than he really is but I thought he was primed to lift his game to another level...perhaps I'm thinking his game is better than it really is, I don't know...
Lol @ CC lifting his game.
you are overestimating that one basket he made against duke last year.
How shitty is ohio's crowd?
going into halftime only down by 3 to the #4 team in the country, in their arena, i'd say is pretty damn good.
we need morgan to stay in this game and stay out of foul trouble
I REALLY wouldn't call my fanzone "the nut house"....no matter how accurate it is.
2nd half coming, time to get it done. GO BLUE!
HD does not do Thad Matta well...
We are generally a very good second half team, the fact that this game is winnable is very encouraging
That's what we need outta you Stu!
is that Ohio State hates us even more than we hate them; they would want to beat us bad if we were the worst team in the league...
OSU shooting and Morgan picking up an early 3rd foul. not ideal
Good D, just not quite good enough that time.
NO TRAVEL OR FOUL??? BULLSHIT!
go back to working the ball llike in the first half; avoid temptation to chuck up bad 3s
Here's the part where we fall in love with the 3 while OSU goes on a run
Here comes the run...come on, boys!
Sullinger was in the lane for like 8 seconds there working on Smot
We can't let this game out of hand right now.
I hate Ohio so much
You are among like minded people.
I'm hearing a lot of OSU dicksucking from the commentators.
I'm honestly surprised Rafferty can speak with Sullinger and Craft's mahood shoved down his throat...
Does Kevin Harlan have to update what Trey Burke is shooting from the field everytime he touches the ball? He's done it the last two weeks and I wanna shoot him.
Second half so it goes in.
Ohio student section very creative there with a "Novak sucks" chant. Using all their combined brain power
No brain power needed, they were all handed papers with the chant before the game...
is it just me or is the ohio student section really weak? they are not loud or intense at all when we're on offense.
I can't stand Craft...that is all.
Burke oh hell ya!
Trey with the trey
Ohio's players' palms must be extra well-greased today. Tell the boosters to stop giving them all those gifts before big games.
do not dribble. ever.
"Here they come, the Wolverines, baby!"
at both ends. Cannot work hard on D and then let them reload.
That has been a problem for most of the season.
Why must Smotrycz foul at the worst times???
Another mystery foul special for the craven beings.
That was a good moving screen call.
has obviously been paid a little extra...
Perhaps gray doesn't show up as well as blue...
Is that 4 team fouls to 0 already? Ohio is gonna be shooting fts all half
Bad. Real bad.
Was that really a foul on THJ?
Did that idiot just call us Michigan St.?
need to work the clock better...
not like we've been all over the rack, but c'mon.
The officiating hasn't been great, but honestly the style OSU plays compared to the style we play obviously we are going to have more fouls called on us...
nice block out there dammit.
We haven't shot a single ft yet?
Who is Lenzelle Smith and is it illegal to box him out?
Do we have any rebounds in the second half? I actually don't think so...
0 rebounds so far this half
Smotrycz looking terrible.
Smots gonna smot
What the hell was that, THJ?
Too much of it...
Morgan has to box out better.
I really wish Morgan would develop a mid-range jumper.
Gah breakaway. Which team wants to get more passes broken up on O?
It's hard to rebound when we're dwarves compared to their skyscrapers.
Burke made the wrong pass on that last turnover. Should've hit the corner man.
It almost looks like they are coached not to crash for the offensive board.
We can get this. The guys just need to settle down! We're making them work hard except when we try to get cute with these running passes.
Is Morgan the weakest finisher in the B1G?
He needs to try and dunk overy shot
from 3 ft. now that is really hard to do.
Morgan with 4 fouls, we're screwed.
morgan will be out the next 10 min.
Morgan needs to freaking destroy anyone if he's going to foul.
This game will now be played on mute for the remaining 13 minutes in the MAZandBLUE residence.
Nice Morgan, misses a bunny at one end, fouls at the other, out of the game.
LOL Big Bird.
Four fouls on Morgan. Down 9. I don't like our chances... We need to get hot if we want a shot at this thing
Here's where the game slips away.
And did that commentator just say "moxie"?
Novak, where are you?
I don't like them talking about Sullinger's ass constantly
I can't stand Rafferty.
that's horrible. how can you let him get that position. c'mon man.
Yeah, it's not like keeping Sullinger out of the paint is a hard thing to do.
Not sure if srs...
only chance we have is to start draining threes because Sullinger is about to dominate
If you're going to foul, FUCKING FOUL!!!!!!!!!!!
Holy shit, if I hear Raferty say "Big fella" one more time...
But we are trying to hide McLimans!
has been horrible against our 1-3-1 in the past. we have to break it out to get some TOs.
Hack away. Frustrate Sullinger.
Dear Morgan and Smot,
This is how you foul.
I swear if you had never watched OSU play and listened to these announcers call this game you would think we were playing an entire team of NBA lottery picks.
they probably have at least 3 to our 0.
If they had 3 lottery picks on the team, they would win every game by at least 40 points.
Mute time. Enough fellating.
Lenzelle Smith has 6 offensive rebounds. Michigan has 2.
WTF are these two talking about.
Why no Novak shots?!
Smot has now missed 2 straight wide open 3's and then fallen down after. Ugh Novak. This game is starting to get away. Need to settle
And boom goes the dynamite
This one is getting out of hand. 4 on Morgan. 4 on Novak. Down 11 on the road.
Officially fucked unless they start making threes.
just not athletic enough yet. Novak and Douglass can't get much done against those athletes
Your avatar fooled me for a bit...
My kingdom for a rebound!
Well we waited till the 2nd half today to completely play like shit.
Novak is still scoreless. Ugh
on us?!!!! so, no over the back huh?
I've never seen so many offensive rebounds...
is a damn joke. play good D, then show no desire to rebound.
Reality is setting in. Regardless of the outcome. Ohio is a more talented team...
But I would be fine with it if Smot didn't play another second in a Michigan jersey.
You think this kid wants to play bad? Dont be a dirtbag...
This is where I turn the game off.
Michigan is really hurt when Smotrycz is on the floor. He has missed a ton of open threes this season.
He seems a step slower on defense as well.
The talent differential on the floor right now is really hard to overcome.
We look like a jv squad compared to them in terms of athleticism.
Best players money can buy.
OMG. Burke keep doing that.
Have to say, I'm amazed at Craft's on-the-ball defense.
But it's not over. But we can't afford too many more minutes without a run.
Are ass hats
Why is THJ so invisible?
OSU is in the bonus with 10 minutes left. I'm not saying, I'm just saying...
What is the FT disparity - 20 to 0?
I miss when we got to shoot FTs.
I just turned the game on and also checked the stats. Now, I have little knowledge of basketball, but is it really possible that Ohio State hasn't fouled Michigan all game? Seriously? Zero free throws?
Shooting fouls, no
Oh well, it was a good first half effort. Nothing against Novak, Douglass, and Smotrycz, but they really aren't talented enough to keep up with this kind of a team.
They have a pretty talented team; they aren't #4 in the land for no reason...
but they seem pretty solid from the line...
If our bench guys don't step up our starters will wear down come seasons end, and really we have no one that can take over a game, but we really need to beat Indiana on wednesday to go atleast 3-3 in this tough stretch of games
4 fouls on novak, morgan and smot. We'll never grab another rebound
Why must they do this stupid camera view.
I don't want to look at the goddamn fans any more than I have to.
all I see is red students, hoes, and truck drivers
This team can't compete in the paint. No go to guy on the block and 2nd chance pts killing us.
They have superior basketball abilities.
Under 10. We can do this.
This is true but somehow I am not feeling it. Am I looking at the glass half empty? Is it wisdom? Oh whatever, I need to just cheer...
MATH MOTHERFUCKER! DO YOU SPEAK IT?
Someone on espn has to bring up the free throw issue, this is absolutely ridiculous
CBS isn't doing shit!
A healthy Horford would have been a huge help today.
Just turned on the game, glanced at the stats, and skimmed the nearly 500 posts (key word, skimmed). Looks like it's been ugly and was wondering if there are some homer calls going on?
Not the worst I've seen, but the calls seem slightly skewed their way. Not like it matters, they're just bigger and better than us.
if more of those shots went in...
Refs have been fine. We've (predictably) gotten killed on the boards and have missed some key open threes. We have no inside presence since early in the game. Morgan and Novak have 4 fouls.
THJ has been largely absent, most painfully on the boards.
I somewhat disagree...I think their success on the boards have made them more aggressive trying to get them. They are holding arms and really, really bashing in there. The refs are letting most of it, except the agregious calls, go, which gives them a huge huge advantage.
There has been some. The only thing is that they are so much bigger than us and we are getting killed on the glass. They have 13 off. rebounds and we have 2.
First half ended 24-21 Ohio. Shooting was good but not great, but the monster advantage in FTs for them is telling. Plus Morgan and Novak have 4 fouls already.
Basically, it's been fairly even but some bad turnovers and a complete lack of rebounding has led to Ohio State's lead. They had one 14-2 run in the 2nd half. Also, Ohio is 13/16 of the line and we're 0/0.
Plus, the turnovers.
Everyone! I appreciate the catch up.
We're not tough enough. This game is a toughness issue which is so DAMN frustrating
He at least is bringing some energy off the bench. Good O-board
WHERE's THE FOUL???!? and also, nice offensive rebound, for once.
I wanted to hit Thad Matta in the face with a shovel...then I realized someone already has.
So what's stopping you from doing it again?
Ok, CC, I apologize. That was great effort for the board.
Colton Christian is a goofy looking runner. I am having a laugh watching him run.
Bad things happen when Stu is near the baseline
Stu makes more freshman mistakes than Burke...WTF?
He's good for at least 2-3 bonehead plays a game
Stay away from the baseline Douglas! That's three times now. Turnovers and offensive rebounds are killing us.
Douglass goes baseline and turns it over. What a shock.
all i hear is how well these guys can shoot, yet none of them shoot well. hardaway nails a 3 then damn near airballs the next one. stu did the same thing. smot makes his first, hasn't come close since.
get vogrich in there and hope he gets hot.
On that last one it looked like Hardaway got hit
Every time THJ makes one shot, you know it's going to be heat check time.
I'm glad you are not our coach. Hardaway's second shot was havily contested. Hardaways and Smot is better than Vogrich.
Mich: 7/19 for 38%
OSU: 3/14 for 21%
I think your criticism is off. It may seem like we're terrible simply because we take a lot of shots.
Not great today, but not awful.
When I started watching we were only down 3. I'm sorry, I'll take responsibility for this one.
has as many offensive rebounds as we have total rebounds. redunculous.
UGH we can't rebound worth a shit. this is where having a guy like mcgary is really going to help.
there is clearly a difference in talent levels between the two teams right now. but we will get there. we'll have a solid core in burke, mcgary, hardaway and morgan to build on for next year.
Christian had time to bring that down and throw it home. Product of him not playing much I assume
seriously? get morgan in there until he fouls out.
Apparently Vogrich is the only guy on our team who can box out a big man.
Colton Christian may be the most awkward guy ever.
And damn Hardaway stop takig bad 3s!
Novak kinda looks like a toddler from far away of you squint a little.
That's why you're third-string
More patience and were only down 3.
We have two guys on the floor that can make a shot
This is an interesting lineup right now.
those two easy first have bunnies would look good now.
Come on.... how does that not fall?
The big advantage of continuing to watch this game? I can put off vacuuming for another 20 minutes or so. Also retaining my fan card.
Down 7...here it comes.
Get stronger Morgan...
MORGAN WHAT THE HELL?!?!?
Wow this is really bad. When Colton Christian is attempting to key your comeback, you know you're screwed. Can we put the guys with 4 fouls back in the game now?
Jesus Christ Morgan, you get a very rare offensive rebound and then you give it away.
KEEP THE FUCKING BALL ABOVE YOUR HEAD JORDAN!
Damn it Morgan. Hoops 101: Don't hold the rebound low.
This is true. I still hate Craft. He can shove that Rubik's cube up his...Burke with a three!!!
GAAAAAHHH!!! I HATE CRAFT!!!
3 guys under the hoop and nobody can get it in. That really sucks.
is just such a giant pussy
God, that was terrible.
fuck this...they are so much stronger than us
GODDAMMIT WE WERE FREAKNG MURDERED UNDERNEATH
SULLY! The next NBA failure from Ohio.
Has not been held scoreless since Nov 21 2010 against Gardner-Webb. Also, pretty sure we were fouled on all three of those shot attempts. Guess we're not allowed to shoot free throws this game
will not be that way for long, though.
We just trippled our offensive rebounds
Got another 4 hours...
Well, there it goes...why do we start playing so impatiently? Come on, guys, you're beating yourselves!
Jack a crap 3, then pass up on an open one.
God Damn it Morgan stop being so God Damn soft. Jesus.
get his ass out. if he's not going to hustle back on D, get him the Fuck out! Sullinger beat him down the court for an easy slam. i mean, you can't all out hustle for the 2 min you are in the game?
Giving this game away. God so close to beating these guys
Patience = upset.
Burke is stepping his game up. Good way to step it up after having a freshman-esque game vs. Purdue.
There is no question that our best player is a freshman.
I feel like that shoulder check should be an offensive foul
Burke still looks like the best player on the floor for either team. Stu needs to hit an open 3
Why does Stu shoot the ball?
Douglass why are you not that good at making open threes.
Stu Douglas is so damn frustratig to watch. Bad 3s. Bad turnovers. And then does something great.
When he graduates.
Damn do I hate those fools. I can't even look at them. Dumbass big nut guy. Ugh. Insufferable. Everyone knows that creepy bastard that's a little bit too homoerotic and constantly talks about his nuts; this is an entire arena full of them.
The easiest state to spell. They practice it 3000 times a game.
"Michigan has not taken a free throw"
Oh yeah, obviously OSU causes no fouls...
The announcers make it sound like michigan isn't taking the ball to the basket to get to the line, but they are the calls just aren't being made
Going to take a shit. Will be more satisfying than this game.
Finally Hardaway does something moving towards the basket.
Why don't you do that every time?
We're gonna shoot free throws! *sarcastic cheer*
Hey look, another commercial break
A FREE THROW!!!!!
We're averaging 1.2 points per minute in this game, so we'll need to score at only about six times that rate to come back and win this!
Have we shot FTs yet?
We are so untalented compared to them. It's insufferable. Burke, a freshman, is the best player on our team. How disgraceful.
Oh no, they're going to lose.
Time to comment on the refs, and get angry with college basketball players that don't perform up to our expectations.
Edit: See posts below.
well aren't you a clever asshole
I'd call you an asshole, but at least an asshole serves a function.
That is completely inaccurate. Get off the board, troll.
You are terrible. The team doesn't need you as a fan.
Watch a slew of fouls get called against OSU in the last 2 minutes so the free throw shooting disparity isnt so obvious at the end of the game. The calls are SO one sided it isn't even close.
Having Horford could be huge when the bucks come to Crisler is a few weeks. We need another body inside to rebound and take fouls. We've shown some resolve today on the road, I really do like our chances at home assuming Novak actually scores some points.
They may take the redshirt at this point.
OMG free throws!
At least here is some perspective. Ohio has only had none game within 10 points at home this year a 7 point win against Florida. With the bad three point shooting and lack of foul shots we're still giving Ohio their best or second best game of the year on their home floor.
Quit hating on our players. It's been a frustrating game, but come on.