Ill just read this forum for a bit and hope it turns
Michigan vs. MSU bball open thread
reading this thread is a great way to raise your spirits.
trying to defend Michigan's defense will sit down for awhile. That's not championship caliber D.
That's not NIT level D
effort I have seen all season... It's their choice to come back and play like a damn team or they can let us fans down who have been there for them through all of their ups and downs.
That's not that impressive considering the Ellerbe/Amaker years.
Then again, looks like it will be 20-11 pretty soon.
Man, Spartan nation is going to suck tomorrow. Hope you guys in Michigan are ready.
Ehhh I deal. They still have needle dicks
MSU 18 (7 offensive)
Michigan 12 (3 offensive)
There's your game right there.
There's not one player on this team that needs to be thinking about the NBA. Weak is about all I can say.
is hard to watch. Just awful.
This team needs one of the coaches lay into them at half. 25 games into the season, no excuses for the freshman anymore.
I don't know how anyone can deny that. How in the world can you get into this arena tonight and not be up to the task. Most of our players are not. Soft is the key word for this team.
Soft physically (see: the last minute of that half), soft mentally (see: all of our road losses). They just get outworked and outhustled.
You have no post threat and you rely solely on jump shooting, you'll never have consistency because its easier to defend and shooters are streaky. Defensively we haven't been good in a few weeks.
Nix can only go to his right, but Michigan can't rebound anything.
his guy probably has 3 or 4 offensive rebounds too.
Fuck it. Belien needs to do the war rebounding drill that Izzo does. Our defense and rebounding is beyond atrocious and if we don't watch it this game could get pretty ugly.
Hardaway is non existent.
Sad news about Nerlens Noel...there goes the draft in June.
These guys need someone to yell in their damn ears at halftime. Seems to me that no one on the coaching staff can do that. Pathetic first half and I hope to God they come out a totally different team in the second half.
Helps turn bad defense into good defense, great. But yelling is highly overrated and most good coaches don't have to do much of it.
Um tell that to the football coaches.
Freshmens are really showing their inexperince here they are tired and playing all these road games is making them exhausted...if they continue like this we are doomed say goodbye to the tournament
SICK of hearing that. I wasnt super talented at my sport but ALWAYS played my behind off and always brought defense to my game. Even when offense lacked. It doesnt matter what age you are - people either have that drive to play defense or not. I coached many teams since and some kids do it and have that internal drive and some dont. Whether 6 years old, 11 or 18 yrs old.
Well, State is shooting out of their mind also. They haven't made a ton of open shots, most of them are contested, they're just going in. If we get any closer to them, the refs blow the whistle.
Saying most shots were contested is being pretty generous.
It's ok guys. After the loss to Wisconsin they all sat around and mentioned one thing they could do better. So, they're all set now. You can tell that lit a fire under them.
First 4 minutes are crucial. If we aren't within single-digits at that point we might lose by 20.
Can we just have him go to the locker room and unleash a 12 minute tirade that only Novak can deliver?
Lets hope he did.
UM-24 MSU Points in Paint-24
If I have learned one thing about this team, they are resilient. Just chill and it will all get better, yo
Right, they'll make it a little closer and still lose. Being resilient hasn't actually lead to a win yet. Just false hope.
At least we are a team that can come back. Would you rather we lose by 20 to OSU and Indiana?
Exactly. That just makes it even fucking worse that they allow this bullshit to happen in the first half.
We let a guy like Matt Costello get 4 points.
Remember when we were #1 and Beilein asked are we satisfied or will we keep working hard and doing the things that got us here? I think we have our answer. Guys must've read their press clippings.
Then this game is the scene where Rocky gets his ass kicked in the first fight by Clubber Lang. What I want to know is when they'll find the eye of the tiger and get a good training montage going, complete with sprints on the beach and awkward man-hugs.
We gotta get yelled at by Adrian first
YOU CAN'T WIN!!!!
Either that or GR3 - he doesn't seem to be doing anything productive on the court anyway, so why not start nagging Rocky with a whiny pep talk?
If this game doesn't get any better, I'm going to watch Rocky III. That's a great movie.
State's locker room looks like crap
and his two-hand-jump-shot-layup one more time, my remote is going to meet the back of my television.
Again pretty simple - average MSU play is a drive to the basket, and an offensive rebound put back. Average UM play is a 20 foot jumper.
Make some 3s, rebound, watch fouls and its a game
I smell something, but it's not a victory!
I despise everything Sparty.
but Coach B should take notes from Izzo on how to play D and make players play tougher and be tougher. We're too fucking soft right now.
I found a lucky penny. Surely that'll turn things around.
God, does that make this game hurt now.
I had a bad feeling about this game all year...because nothing makes Sparty come to play like a highly ranked Michigan team who is getting all the media love.
If the B1G refs hadn't screwed us against Wisco and hail mary threes weren't growing on trees in Madison, then I could deal with a shitty night in EL. Now, are B1G title hopes and number one seed hopes are slim to none, barring a miracle tonight.
Beilein needs to get some of the football players to come in for practice and beat the hell out of the team for a few practices. Stick Lewan under the basket and tell him to hammer anyone who comes close. Yet make the team still try to run their offense.
Let's put our All-American O-lineman AND our highly ranked BB team at risk.
We play like shit on ESPN in prime time.
Only Trey and THJ are competing. Look like she'll shocked frosh - too late in the season to play shell shocked.
And make it to the B1G title game, we should still have a great shot at a #1 seed. We just have little margin for error now.
Have not been examples of an NCAA Championship contender. We've been getting out-muscled and out-played. How many times do teams who don't shoot that well have to shoot the lights out against us? Maybe we're tired, maybe we peaked a couple weeks ago.
Beard just tweeted that Hardaway didn't take part in second half warm ups....please, just, no.
EDIT: I TAKE BACK WHAT I SAID, heres to that half not repeating itself.
Changed into my Michigan shorts. We're good, guys.
Hardaway with the look of....yeah.
have a combined 1 rebound yet we are getting killed on the boards. wtf?
What are the rules on who gets the ball after the half? Sparty got the tip and the ball to start the second half.
Seriously, what the fuck guys?
no fucking box out
Nice, Timmy. Unfortunate for us, Harris is on fire.
Robinson looks relieved every time he can give up the ball.
Why the fuck can't we rebound? This is embarrassing.
Burke is so good. Losing him is going to be brutal
Edit: Fuck that call
Perfect example of lazy defense/rebounding there. We let Payne get an easy path the rebound and then he finds Harris for the 3. COVER GARY HARRIS!
Are we showing our true colors who we actually are? Are we just tired? Or are we just freaking out for no reason...which one is it?
It's so frustrating when they do something great and follow it up with a mistake.
even he is letting it get to him. head out of ass please.
I hate the fucking charge
Fuck this game. We are overrated.
That was frustration out of Burke. And stupidity.
Burke's out. Game is over.
Idk about that call...
Leave him the fuck in the game
There's the game.
Why the fuck does coach even bother pulling him...Don't you play to fucking win the game?
Hold on to the ball!
Our passing is horseshit.
Morgan once again with the worst hands I've ever seen....FUCK
looks mystified too
Our only big who can hold onto the ball is McGary
Throws it away.
And then he throws it away.
As soon as he grabs it he throws it away. If beilein keeps Burke out, they might as well go to the locker room
the fucking foul!!!
How is that not a fucking foul...FUCK THIS FUCKING SHIT
No foul on that move by Biefeldt?
WHERE'S THE FUCKING FOUL???!!!
Not going to call the foul huh?
I'm going to watch the episode of Wicked Tuna i have recorded.
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
Fucking kidding me fuck this game
WHAT THE FUCK AM I WATCHING?!?!?!
Getting our fucking ass beat. I thought everybody said we had caught them in basketball...fuck this
This is bad...
Other than Dakish, that was such a foul on that Stauskas layup
Time to start launching threes.
seriously! mcgary and morgan the two guys up top? shocking! bad pass turnover.
All 'this will help us in March" posts from here out should lead to a 3 week suspension from MGoblog. This helps no one. It is an exposure.
At least we'll get some extra home games in the NIT.
If I were Beilein this team would not touch a Basketball before the next game. They would be doing nothing but running stairs and working on defensive rotations. Every time they screwed up a rotation, the whole team would have another lap on the stairs.
Bad coaching. You obviously take a timeout before the turnover and how was that not a foul on the putback.
Boelein needs to get fucking mad I'm sick of the camera panning to him and looking so damn calm moving his lips in the fucked up way he always does.
Is the second best backcourt on the floor.
just once, I want to see Beilein absolutely lay into a team, I know it's not his personality but at some point they just got to hear it.
Seriously, I thought we might have had a shot in this game. I don't want to fall prey to the "bad game=bad team" stuff we get around here a lot, but the trend is definitely worrisome.
That's how many bad games in a row though? We haven't played well since the Illinois game.
It remains to be seen how good we really are, but we are clearly not as good as we thought.
Well, I hope we lose by single digits.
Mitch McGary throws away a defeating pass accurately depicting the lackluster vibe hampering our team all night.
Well, I'm officially pissed that I'm wasting my evening watching this horseshit.
I pointed out before, no fire, no grit, no heart in this team. Talented but filled with finesse and softness.
..... I sincerely hope I wake up tomorrow to find out I missed one of the greatest comebacks in Michigan basketball history. Good night folks.
aaaaaand the game is muted.
Fucking shocking. Could you get out-hustled, out-worked, out-everything'd more in a game than Michigan got tonight?
I'm so mad, I can't even express it. I had such high hopes for this team. We AREN'T ready at all to win big games in March.
I know we're not playing well, but credit to state. They're getting every offensive rebound of the very few shots they miss.
why does our 'behind by 20 points offense' spend as much time running out the shot clock behind the arc as our ahead by 5 offense????? It didn't work when we were ahead at Wiscy and it doesn't work now!
God help me, I've changed to SOTU analysis. Can't watch, will follow here.
This is why MSU makes tourney runs almost every year.They actually get better as the year goes on and they actually care about things like rebounding.
Can't say I didn't see this coming. Come out totally flat after a heart-wrenching loss to an inferior Wisconsin team that never should have happened.
Thank God Penn State is next on the schedule. I don't think this team can take another consecutive brutal road game.
Way to go.
So whats up? Heard there was a game or something tonight?
Dear Lord; the shots of the,crowd and those..."people"- The Breslin center looks like the 6th through 9th circles of Hell ala Dante Alghieri.
Has horford played tonite? not that it matters but havent heard his name.
Our D is fucking atrocious.
this is like bizarro world . I don't even know what to say . Obviously state is petty fucking good, but we look intimidated and weak on defense...
I just don't get it and I wish it would end...
The remote is your friend. Stop torturing yourself.
Feels like State is shooting 90%
That right there should have been a steal by Albrecht, however he was busy standing watching the game.
Turned the game off 10 minutes ago, judging by this, we're getting our asses handed to still
why is playing? he can't guard anyone on the floor.
Nobody on our team can.
See ya in the morning for the depressing recap.
Is it the officiating?
If only I had that to blame it on.
No inside game at all. No D. No hustle. Honestly I'll be happy with one tourney win.
ok here come the 25 ft prayers. we may lose by 30.
and inability to hit those bunny layups may hurt come tourney time.
I hate these fuckers.
We could legitimately lose by 30.
even valentine hits a 3. and another horseshit pass for a TO.
What does WE OFF stand for?
Wasn't even officiatings fucking fault.
Our freshmen... Oh boy.
Has anyone seen Tim?
Goodnight, everyone. It's not giving up if the team isn't playing anymore.
The way this team is quitting is taking me back to the Amaker years...
Welp...I'll see you guys Sunday.
How is this team playing worse than last years team with the amount of talent we have??
Becuase this team does not have Zack and Stu. They would not let the team quit. Michigan has no one this year to fill that role.
No Novak leadership. No grit.
I want Harbaugh!
Well, I hope we can beat Penn State, the past 4 games have me questioning.
at least my degree is worth more
gets beat down the court. fucking hustle.
This is bringing me back to the Ellerbe and Amaker days. I didn't even wanna fucking drink tonight.
Okay, this is aweful. We have a problem
is the main problem. you can't have a useless player at the #4 position in the big 10.
I guess the only good news is that in my NCAA 13 dynasty I have won four of the last five national championships and we are currently 7-0.
It bothers me that coach Beilein can sit down and look calm while his kids are out there turning the ball over and not hustling. I would be throwing chairs on the floor. When I coach, I cant ever sit down. It says a lot about the leadership.
Coach K is the same way at Duke. They'll hear it in practice but going Brian Kelly on them on ESPN is going to do little.
...Bobby Knight's daughter?
can't even do basic things like pass and dribble anymore.
14 turnovers to State's 7. That's part of it.
TH2 and GR3, 2-13 shooting 4 points
Yay GIII, dissapear more
Yay GIII, dissapear more
Remember when this team was better than the fab five? And when Stauskas was better than Glenn Rice? Yeah me either...
get off the court. take a week off.
in Dec. wasn't he ranked the #9 player in the upcoming nba draft. hahahahahaha.
At this point there is not a player on the team for Michigan who should be drafted this year, including Burke. I'm sure Burke will leave but he has no business doing so.
You're overreacting. Burke is still one of the best players in the country, he's actually had a decent night.
Burke is a point guard who cannot get his team on track against top competition. How do you t hink that is going to play in the NBA? I am not overreacting. He is not ready for the NBA unless he is planning on moving to off guard.
Burke isn't at fault for the rest of the team's play. He has been playing good defense and doing the bulk of the scoring on offense.
If you think Burke is playing good defense than you must not be watching the same team I am. There is not a player on that team playing good defense and there hasn't been all year. If he cannot lock down players in the Big Ten, how is he going to handle Westbrook in the NBA?
He is not ready for the NBA but like Manny and Darius he will go out too soon and sit the bench.
Is there a reset button?
We really might get doubled up...
3 of the 4 losses were on the road against top-15 teams. The other came against Wisconsin on the road who 1) needed a prayer half court shot to win, 2) beat Indiana in Bloomington, and 3) are ridiculously good at protecting home court.
Indiana and MSU will come to A2 soon. As long as Mich holds serve, then it's not that much of an underachievement. I'm okay with going 3-3 against OSU, IU, and MSU. Too bad Wisconsin doesn't make a return trip.
It's not that you lose, it's how you lose. These guys are running a clinic on how to beat us. You think no one is watching?
Definitely out coached and outplayed.
MSU vs high school
has a team ranked #1 as late as Jan ever lost by 30?
Duke vs. Miami. I believe Duke was #1 at the time. If it wasn't 30, it was damn close.
I'd be frustrated if I was an EMU fan and this was the score. Absolutely unacceptable for a Michigan team to perform at such a disgusting level. I would seriously question any ranking that puts us in the top 10 next week. This was not just a bad game, this was an exposure and exploitation of our weaknesses.
Really Burke? No hussle for that rebound.
team hitchhike home. to lose is one thing. but to not give any effort is complete bullshit.
Team don't care? Guess I won't either.
they should put Zack Novak on the bus back to Ann Arbor and just let him loose
They just fucking quit.
just saw him on the bench. even akunne gets to play over him. and he's a senior on his last trip to breslin.
You can tell Burke would rather be in the NBA.
Margin of error is reduced to zero. Let's return the favor when MSU visits Crisler, and take care of Indiana, and finish 14-4 in the conference tied at the top.
I'll have what you're having.
Better start a drinking thread
Different team when they play at Crisler I think, but admittedly that's a rosy projection. Hard to see Michigan not drop 1 more.
i will just take a win against penn st at this point. it's like when i play a par 3 course in order to get my confidence back in my golf game.
Make that 2 please
how this team picks itself back up. Fairly shattering experience all around tonight.
are outworking our scrubs.
Have we ever shot less than 10% before?
EDIT: Oh, shit, we're shooting 36%.
I'm surprised, but classy post-game remarks from Coach Izzo.
That was unacceptable. Losing to that shithole institution is unacceptable. Now we have to run the table win the big ten tourney and a national championship to erase this performance. I know, you might lose to them on bball once in a whole on the road, but what thefuck was that? Just get dragged? Now we can all listen to their annoying asses for 3 weeks. In embarrassed to wear Michigan stuff tomorrow I will anyway but I'm embarrassed for the first time since rich rid and for the second time ever.
Harford fuckin yawning in the middle of the court...wtf... Fuckin embarrasment...David Brandon better talk to Belin for this shitty humiliating performance against our rival.... Fuuuuck cant even sleep now soooooo pissed
I guarantee we loosing every fuckin game that matters from now on, including Pen St... This team has no hope and they showed it tonite and on top of that they got exposed.. So from now on other teams will just play defense against us
So pissed cant even think... Can someone play out a scenerio of how we can win big ten after a 1-3 road games we just had?
Turn into a way better team and then somehow beat penn state. Then get exponentially better each game and win those too. Then have the winner of the staee vs iu game lose another game. Simple as that
Did not expect that effort. Went to the game (first time in Breslin) and was ran out of there like the team was. I do have to ask to anyone else at the game... is it just me or can the State defense pretty much place their hands on any offensive player at anytime? I get it... we got our asses kicked. Watching at the game and seeing the plays develop away from the ball I am amazed at how much contact there is against MSU and when MSU had the ball how we tried to move our feet. It was like watching basketball on one end and something entirely different on the other.
I cannot stress enough that we still would not have won but damn... that is some physical basketball and I can't figure out how and why it is allowed. I mean hell, even on inbounds plays Mitch a few times was literally pushing two defenders that were making contact with him and holding him. Strange game and honestly it looked like the toughest stretch on the schedule finally caught up to a young team that had no gas in the tank.