Michigan vs. Minnesota early games Open Thread
Welcome to Michigan 2013.
No Denard? What did they say, I just turned on?
Hoke said he's not gonna play, hasn't come along as far as they'd like. In a pretty folksy way.
But Hoke confirmed he hadn't progressed as they would have liked, so it's Devin.
Basketball team should be good this year.
Great oppurtunity for DG and this defense. Get the run game going and don't let them score.
Defense is coming up big!
Nice play by mattison
Where can I stream game online? Anyone know. Thanks guys.
thought denard was starting...
Love noon games. Mealer is playing like ass out there. Two missed blocks in three plays.
Wow, we have no offense. We better have Denard triple pad that elbow and let him run.
Oline da fuck!
Not a good sign, but I'm looking forward to seeing what Gardner can do. Let's go Devin! We have faith in you!
Is struggling early
Playing? Didn't hear pregame
That's why he didn't play until he was a Senior. Below average center.
Man we miss Molk.
Our o-line is utter garbage.
Let's hope for a few pick sixes.....
Everyone chill out.
is during the week, with just a few reps needed, Gardner shows the staff he is a better option than the once backup. Nice.
Of course, our OLine is garbage.
I hope that you have the opportunity someday to hear one of your offspring called garbage.
The field all day because of this. Get Rawls in there.
Good thing our defense is awesome.
blown off by a double team
our 4th and one defense is ridiculous
Stupidest fourth and one play call. Delayed action gave us time to get in. Way to go, D.
O line has to step up and prove their worth.
I'm seeing a lot of Beyer and Cam Gordon. That is a little surprising. I'm guessing Black is playing in the middle. I wonder what's going on with Clark & Ojemudia. Cam seems to be getting in there more in the past 2-3 games.
what is this running straight ahead business?
GO RAWLS GO
Helmet and no jacket has to be a sign
no crazy passes yet on O. run the ball.
thank you borges
Thanks for jinxing that one! Lol
What the hell?
Perfect chance to throw it away...
throws it to someone covered by two people.
Russ couldn't get it close enough to a player in that situation to get picked
We have no quarterback without Denard. We have a below average interior line. We have no receivers and we have below average running backs. YIKES.
At this rate, our defense will be gassed by halftime.
Under on us getting more than 200 total yards offense?
That we would have taken Nebraska.
Can anyone find a working stream
Kinda how I feel right now.
I don't know...at least he's completed a pass in his first few attempts...
Under on us getting more than 200 total yards offense?
Well, the poor defense is going to earn their letters today...
Well, this game is looking like 2008.
Actually, I think the 2008 Offense was better.
He has Zero pocket presence. I can't believe it's come to this
Wolverines' Brady Hoke says QB Denard Robinson will start vs. Minnesota
By Mark Snyder
Detroit Free Press Sports Writer
Michigan quarterback Denard Robinson will start Saturday at Minnesota, coach Brady Hoke said this morning.
Hoke’s optimism remains following Robinson’s elbow nerve injury last weekend at Nebraska, when he missed the second half of a 23-9 loss.
“Yeah, we feel real good,” Hoke said on the “Stoney and Bill” show on WXYT-FM (97.1). “He’s gotten better each day, feels better each day. It’s a little bit of a different injury, but it’s come back this time a little slower. But he feels good.”
Uh, he reported the direct words of Coach Hoke. Heiko did, too.
Then maybe it is a problem with Coach Hoke.
Of course, the question was, "Denard Robinson; your starting quarterback on Saturday?"
And the answer was, "Yeah! Yeah, we feel real good."
Here's the podcast:
Should be an interesting session with Stoney and Bill and Coach Hoke next week. If Hoke's new answer is, Well, I said we felt good about it, but it just didn't progress... then I guess everybody will have to be a lot more careful about Hoke's answers in the future.
Two top 15 recruiting classes (2009,2010), both ranked second in the Big Ten to Ohio State.
Looking at the Big Ten this year, the latter part doesn't say much.
I'm just tired of people blaming the past for the issues of the last two weeks. If that type of thought was a poor excuse in 2008-2009, it's still a poor excuse in 2012.
If, by "RR's recruiting classes" you mean...
- Devin Gardner
- Drew Dileo
- Jake Ryan
- Kenny Demens
- Jeremy Gallon
- J.T. Floyd
- Taylor Lewan
- Roy Roundtree
- Brendan Gibbons
Then today is a minor triumph. Right? Not including the fact that but for Rich Rodriguez, Denard Robinson would be playing CB at Florida. Right?
Looks like the Gophers are executing our Denard-game plan w Nelson
Good to see him in the backfield agian.
our offense doesn't deserve this defense
Imagine if we had a good offense with this defense! It would be unfair to everyone.
Well, again the D does their job.
Run, run, qb run, run, run qb run. If there I a pass first or second down I will be angry
And then we get mad at Borges for being predictable
this is obviously a game the D has to win, as long as borges doesn't lose it. bo-style field position ball. right now we have 2 runs and 3 pass plays. we will lose at that ratio. 2 runs vs every pass should do it. a punt isn't a bad thing in this game.
For fuck's sake!!!!
We are going to learn a lot about next year's team today. Not looking good.
As Minnesota starts to pressure
Let the game play out a little. At least give it an entire half before we start to point out how much we suck at this position and that position. We are playing on the road and the home team is fired up, the fans are fired up, and they know we have a backup in. Let us settle in a little and see what happens with a larger sample size. Let's not get down on our guys at the first sign of adversity. Give them some time.
Our oline has been getting manhandled for 3 games. Commence meltdown
better run that play at least 5 times today.
NO. MORE. TOUSSAINT.
He was certainly the problem on that play /s
Haha. Hahaha. Did anyone block? That was gif material
Our line sucks
. that is why this position has been a recruiting priority
Come on dude.
The receivers have the dropsies.
This looks all to familiar.
Can anyone tell me why Borges continues to call those bootlegs. They never work.
we really need to step up wr recruiting, this wr corps is pathetic, lots of drops and can't get any seperation against bad dfenses
No first downs today. You can't run power I with our line and Fitz.
Tate Forcier was a better punter than Hagerup
Why has he turned awful?
Is bad :(
This is what happens when you go 3 and out, 2 and out, 3 out
A shocking lack of football talent on the offense. Where is this "toughness" Hoke had preached since the day he was hired?
Stop the pulling bullshit. Run the ball straight forward. The line looks completely fucking lost.
Wow! We just don't look good on either side. Something isn't right.
You're blind. The defense looks solid so far.
Yea I must be blind. Real solid my man.
To go against the flow of pessimism. Dileo had a nice grab, but the CB made an insanely nice play. Sometimes the other team is allowed to make a great play and you just give them credit. Not always do the receivers just suck. I know, I know CRAZY. Now back to complaining about everything.
Double post fail.
Here's this to make up for it:
Wow. This lobby sure does seem to help MSU's "Walmart Wolverine" moniker. Get some spine, people. Our D is playing lights out and our only offensive weapon is down.
Exactly. We have one weapon. You literally just reinforced everyone's frustration.
as agile as he looks, can we put him back on the o-line too? c'mon 20-30 plays on each side of the ball.
Is Al going to find a way to score more than 14 points a game? That seriously looks doubtful at the moment
Where is Jake Ryan?
Nevermind...just saw him in the game. Literally could not see 47 on the field and started to freak out
I have a really bad feeling about this :(
How do the coaches not have team prepared to play Minnesota?
I am excited seeing Rawls a little! Go Blue!
What do we expect when we hire a coach who is .500 for his career? ;)
The defense is playing their tail off and the offense is screwing it up
It's amazing to see how much this offense is out of sync without Denard. But I guess that's what happens when he accounts for nearly all of your total offense.
Devins still playing better than Bellomy last week
that was a great play call
Here is the tire fire that will be 2013. Please come on down Mr. Treadwell and Mr. Green. Even though you probably don't want to after watching this.
Here comes the meltdown.
That could do it
Long way to go.
C'mon Devin show us something.
Actually first let's go Norfleet.
How much would it suck if we lost 3 game, Nebraska lost a couple and sparty played in the Big Ten championship game. I hate to say it but it could happen.
Jack Daniel's redux, commence.
Put Denard in and just run.
Really? Glad you let us know.
RPS +3 Minnesota offense.
To take it out.
Dumb, dumb, dumb. Take it at the 25 Norfleet, Jesus!
kinda surprised northfleet hasn't been out there at RB even once. He's not the quickest guy, but he looks to be able to stay on his feet pretty well
This could be a long day folks.
Why do they still refuse to start Rawls?!
and drive people off the line, let's go
A freshman QB is beating us right now. While our Junior QB can't do anything. This is a joke. The problem starts with the play calling your an idiot I you still defend Borges.
That freshman has more game experience, has taken more snaps in practice this season and has had better field postion.
Rawls! Keep pounding it coach.
Our defense is good, but when they're playing every possession in their own territory it's gonna be rough sledding. Offense isn't giving them much of a rest right now, either.
Yes Rawls! Finally a good decision by the staff! Really excited to see if be can make some good things happen.
Oh yay I-FORM success. That's encouraging.
without Denard, get in the I-Form and drive people off
Our O-line cannot run block. I have come to that realization. Damn.
I hope denard can go the second half
That isn't going to happen.
He won't play today. If there's any sliver of doubt about his health, they won't play him. Why risk an injury that will put him out for the rest of the year? That also puts a really bad rep on the coaching staff.
keep him in a while please.
Nice to have a RB that isn't fucking around out there.
Why is someone being a doucher and marking every single one of my posts as flamebail? Does that person want to raise their hand?
keep em comin
Keep pounding, Rawls.
keep doing this
Seriously, guys. Give Devin a few possessions to calm down.
this shit show. Was going to try to find a bar to watch it at and then saw that denard was out, so I changed my mind.
I feel so much more confident with Gardner playing instead of Bellomy. Gardner is just a better QB. Glad the coaches have him in.
How are there so many unblocked lineman?
Gardner is settling down. This is good.
Good PA for first down, nice vision Devin and blocking
How do not get any push. What is going on really?
Also pound Rawls, dudes a man.
dg knows how to scramble
good job DG. don't have to pass. put your vince young game on.
Right, the issue so far has been the refs...
Trying to breathe. Give DG time.
Just keep feeding Rawls. At least he's pounding into that defense. So strong. If he had a little blocking he'd be dominating.
Play calling is so much better in the pro style sets. Preview of next year?
is comically bad
Line still sucks
gotta block better
Block someone Fitz!!!
We've seen this with Denard before but we're going to have to hit some short passes and loosen these Minny defenders from the LOS (annnnnd from free blitzers like Devin just encountered).
Mealer jut gt owned.
Oops. Not Mealer.
Oline. Oh my.
GARDNER! EPIC DRIVE MY MAN
TOUCHDOWN HOLY SHIT WHAT IS THAT?!
DG to Dileo!!
and what a pass baby...TD
with no practice is infinitely better than anybody else
all this shows is how stupid it was to have Bellomy (bless his heart) as the backup. I understand having an athlete like Gardner out there somewhere getting reps, but for him to get reps this week and clearly beat out Bellomy (or at least be the better option) tells me what an abomination last week's decision to insist on Bellomy staying out there.
DG keeping the play alive for a TD!!!
Here we go!!
DG - love you man!
I'm liking this. This is allright.
To anyone who thinks that Devin Gardner should not have played last week, shut up.
his athleticism alone would made nebraska thing twice bout blitzing all game after denard was injured
For some reason I have a feeling Minnesota fans aren't going to make a yakety sax remix of that....
Good drive offense.
Props to Rawls the Bowling Ball and Gardner.
Holy Fuck! I was all like not this yakety sax stuff again, but then I was all like, YEAH!
What are those worth, 7 points?
Way to make a play DG!
what a play by gardner.....touchdown dilelo
He makes such good decisions to pull it down and run or to scramble. Gotta believe he starts next year.
His play in a quarter and a half should tell the coaches he can handle it. I have to agree with you that he starts next year-we need him to be our QB
For the win!!
First TD in 3 games, love it!!!!!
My mind immediately raced to the MSU game last year, except this time, a Devin pee wee scramble worked out.
Should be a good confidence booster for the offense, though.
DG sure looks better than RB to me. He must really suck in practice.
I think Jerry Kill just had an "Oh shit" moment...
Great Play DG! Barnum and Mealer are getting crushed up the middle though.
Way to go Gardner!!! I think that was about a 55yd throw!
And really that TD should get credited to the OL for blocking finally!
WTF? If I am wrong...please let me know, but that looked pretty obvious?
Great play Devin!
Saw him chuch it up and figured it was a hail mary type play and was totally fine with that...until Drew Dileo was wide the eff open! Awesome play, good for him and the offense. Gave the defense some rest on that drive too which was huge.
Yeah, I said to myself "Just arm punt it and hope for pass interference". He did a little better than that.
We shoulda kick Fitz off the team while we had the chance! He freaking blows!
Rawls is a man child!
Don't bring that sh*t around here. SRSLY
Gardner, number one recruit, etcetera. I am going to be scratching my head over that for a long, long time.
He was given preference because he spent all year as the backup quarterbakc.
How he stayed out there with the way he was playing, however, was beyond me.
our coaching staff is infallible
My immediate reaction to Gardner is that it seems really hard to justify why Bellomy was playing against Nebraska last week.
you can fair catch touchdowns?
*sigh* Special Teams...
Ugh, huge kickoff return for Minnesota. PF on Minnesota blunts the gain.
got lucky with the penalty
yeah, maybe next time you shouldn't over react huh?
HOLY SHIT CAPS LOCK IS FUN, ISN'T IT? EXCEPT THAT WHEN YOU USE IT YOU LOOK LIKE SOME CRAZY GUY PREDICTING THE END OF THE WORLD AND IT'S REALLY ANNOYING TO READ. USUALLY I JUST TRY TO IGNORE IT BUT I CAN SENSE IT'S GOING TO MAKE A REGULAR APPEARANCE IN THIS THREAD IF YOU'RE WHIPPING IT OUT THIS EARLY FOR NEGATIVE PLAYS AND (USUALLY I WOULD PUT AND HERE IN ALL CAPS FOR EMPHASIS BUT YOU CAN'T TELL BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS IN ALL CAPS) USING IT FOR WHEN THINGS GO WELL. SO REGARDLESS OF HOW THE TEAM PERFORMS, YOU'RE GOING TO USE CAPS, AND THAT'S SUPER ANNOYING. PLEASE STOP.
Hey, so I'm sure that this is all going to get buried in this thread really fast, and I am sure that someone will probably make a diary about it tomorrow, but I'm curious:
What do we think is the impact of Denard being forced out for 1/2 of the Nebraska game and then being held out of the entirely of this game on the Denard record watch?
As far as I remember, Denard was easily on pace to hit a lot of records (including Pat White's NCAA-wide record), but those all assumed moderate production across all of our remaining games. Since he is being forced to sit out, do we think that some of those records are now out of his reach barring a quick return and some amazing games?
YOu're right this will get buried. I totally forgot about the record watch, I've been depressed he's been missing time in the first place. I'm not sure he's going to get it at this point but that is pure conjecture.
That could be the longest break the defense has been given in the last 6-7 quarters! Come on Defense!
Brandon, take note Denard likes kiss cams
I forgot what a touchdown looked like. Thanks Devin.
That is all.
Beast mode, Jake!
Jake tackled him with his little pinky, while laying on his back.
Way to go JT!
Does the audio keep cutting out for anyone else?
Jt you the man
You just get that feeling that were gonna roll from here.
in da house....nice play
BEAUTIFUL PLAY, JT!
Jake Ryan and JT Floyd get candy for that drive.
Beautiful effort right there
Me of Morgan Trent. I appreciate his effort week to week.
If JT had dreads, he would not have caught up to that ball.
Gallon, you will be the death of me.
Was that block in the back really necessary?!
can't he catch punts? gallon certainly can't. how many time do we have to watch this?
That was a blatant block in the back. Extremely stupid too.
Gallon out, every week he does this
Are you serious?
Stupid play by Gordon. C'mon man.
It was Marvin Robinson, not Gordon.
No need to even block that guy.
Saw that block in the back coming a mile away, sigh.
I hate the BTN announcing.
Besides Gibbons, our special teams have been terrible. Hagerup, punt return, Norfleet and kick coverage have all been subpar.
Think I have disagree with you on that.
Every time something good happens, something bad has to follow. Can we ever get field position? Thank God for the defense.
that last drive gave us some confidence on offense
the defense is gonna D
I'm scared and we are playing the gophers. This is no fun.
Why a guy like Nelson can step in and play poised and well as a true freshman, but a guy like Bellomy didn't, at least in his last outing. Now I know Nelson didn't get thrown into a road game against Nebraska when he wasn't expecting to play so the dynamics are a little different. But, he seems poised, is making good decisions, and is moving his team offensively. And, both are pretty similarly ranked recruited with Bellomy probably being a little higher rated. It just makes you wonder...why can't we do that?
Not every human being is the same. It really isn't that hard to figure out.
Apparently we only like to block when the defenders have their backs towards us.
Come on man
Can we self destruct any more and still be tied if we were playing anyone but minnesota. Nice pass Gardner!!
Roundtree, so nice of you to join us!
Devin to Roundtree!!
Gardner is clutch. Am I still an idiot for wanting him to play QB last week?
mother fucking pass Devin!!!!
needed that shit boy
I hate to say it, but DG reminds me of Braxton Miller. Like, a lot.
from the ez, off his backfoot. NO NO NO NO
Despite our horrid blocking
THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID.
Atta boy, Gardner.
More Rawls, please.
Devin looks to be settling down
Somebody needs to make a Devin Gardner appreciation thread. This guy is a coach's dream. He's done everything the program has asked of him and more.
He came in as the Rivals number one overall ranked QB, and took a back up role behind Denard. He stayed on through the coaching change and bought into his role as a sort of hybrid QB/RB in our "Joker" packages last year. Then, this year, he moved to receiver because we really needed an outside threat, and has performed as well as anyone could possibly expect at that position. Now, when called upon to move back to QB mid-season, he's done so, and we haven't heard anything out of him other than he's a fantastic teammate and a really positive, upbeat kid.
Devin Gardner, you sir, are one of a kind.
Seconded. So hard.
Slight correction he was the number one rated Dual threat QB, but otherwise yes.
Ok DG. Get your swag right.
opening up now
Gardner is slinging it pretty nciely
DG is hot right now. I love this kid.
Devin. He's so hot right now.
Gardner is rolling :)
Starting to feel slightly better about next year.
3 complete passes
Gallon is down.
I think we've used up that throwback screen to Gallon.
So the late hits by number 13, are the refs going to start calling them?
What is he talking about. We have incredible depth at WR.
committing a lot of late hits and not getting called