Michigan vs Michigan State Open Thread
I would care.
Getting outhustled and outphysicaled, that sequence to end the half tells the whole story. We give away a possession by having nothing particular going on aside from dribbling around the perimeter. They get the ball back and just roll right through multiple defenders to the basket unopposed.
We're down single digits and it feels like we're behind by 25. All you can say is at least it's close enough that we can come back if we ever start playing like we're capable.
There is no doubt that this game means more to them than us, though. Body language is telling, just in case you weren't watching the gameplay itself.
State wants the win and they are kicking our butts with physicality and strong D right now.
with some faith & love from home.
How are we supposed to play D if the refs are calling every single move a foul?
We'll figure it out, but it'll be tough to work through...
C'mon Michigan. You're smart enough -- and tough enough -- to beat this.
And Horford -- he'll step up. He has it in him; we've seen him shine; he can pull it off again.
GO BLUE!!!
... the leaders & the BEST.
flo...
If you're going to play zero defense and not get any rebounds, then you have to play very well on offense. That is not happening. A lot of sloppy turnovers and bad decisions. Beilfeldt playing so much has hurt on both ends, but that's not Morgan's fault not his.
We took a haymaker from Statee. No worries.
It has seemed less like a haymaker than a kicking ourselves in the head to me.
This is extremely true. Beating MSU and winning this faux tournament is just the cherry on top for a great season. Well, I can live without cherries. The real tournament starts on Thursday.
The point is to WIN THE GAME.
I'd never want you as a teammate.
I don't care if we're playing MSU in chinese checkers. I want to beat them. I couldn't care less about what this game means.
If you're going to play, play to win. Period.
Otherwise we should just go rest and we shouldn't risk an injury.
I'm not ref bashing today, but to add to your comment, they happen to be the one's who thought Trey's block last year against Lousiville was a foul.
Oh look Pitino the snake
GRIII and LeVert need to step up in the second half. They were both ghosts out there offensively.
plain and simple...we are super soft in the middle and we're getting our butts kicked by a physical team right now...the refs calls have been fair
It's hard to make up ground if every State possession lasts a minute and a half. The constant offensive rebounds on their end is frustrating.
Outrebounded 20-11. Our leading rebounder is Walton. The rest of the starters have one combined.
we habta rebound better
So, the numbers aren't, well....here you go....
Michigan eFG% - 40.61%
Michigan OREB% - 26.67%
Michigan FTR - 54.55%
Michigan TOV% - 18.03%
Michigan State eFG% - 50.00%
Michigan State OREB% - 56.25% (those who were talking about getting killed on the boards...yeah...)
Michigan State FTR - 25.81%
Michigan State TOV% - 12.65%
In addition, you have a Michigan PPP at 1.01, compared to MSU's 1.26.
Honestly, down 9 given how badly that half went seems fine. Should be interesting to see how guys like Payne and Dawson handle the 2nd half; fitness has been an issue for them, and a big reason Wisconsin got back in the game was because MSU's defense was clearly slowing down.
When we piss and moan about the refs, it sounds like we're taking our analysis lessons from Izzo.
he jacked up two 3 attempts...missed both.
really if you told me that horford and morgan would miss most of the half and we were only down by 9 i'd be okay. they will play almost exclusively this half assuming they dont get quick phantom fouls again and we will be better on both ends of the court
it's not a bad thing to take a punch to the face...prior to the tourney...things have been too easy lately
Anybody who thinks we're going to get a one seed if this game continues as it has so far is out of their fucking mind.
I'm sure there will be a selection open thread....should be an interesting read. I can see it now...."but Lunardi said the game didnt matter....."
We're down by 9, not 90. Settle down and have a drop of faith.
I believe you said earlier today the game didnt matter. So now does it?
March 17th, 2014 at 12:14 PM ^
Holy shit dude, as I said repeatedly, Lunardi said that the game didn't matter "as long as we were in it". Given that we got down big, it likely hurt. If it makes you feel better though, you're super right.
I'm OK with not getting a one seed. There isn't much difference between a one and two anyway. At this point, since we are a lock for a two anyway, I'm more concerned with the teams in our section of the bracket.
if this game doesn't matter, we've locked up the #1 win or lose.
are the biggest thing to correct. we had at least 4 up top that led to at least 8 layups/dunks. boxing out for rebounds would be nice too.
I want a bench explosion in the 2nd half. Irvin/Spike for the win!
Man. Relax people. It's a 9 point game. Beilfeldt is playing damn well. He shot twice becasue nothing else was happening, his shots were better than something another guy would have created out of those two sequences. The first one he was wide open. His defense has been damn near magnificent. I'm curious what travel calls in particular Beilein is pissed about? Did I miss something? I think before the Technical he was pissed that Appling was arm-bar-pushing off on his layup.
I do think some are right, we're not into it as much as they are. Which is fine, oddly enough. They're probably tired and aren't in the mood for being pushed around by the physical Spartans. Next week that would be an issue. Today? Not really, not a whole lot is riding on this outcome. THis isn't to say they don't want this W. I'm sure they do. Body langauge is telling, however.
Yes, his screening action leaves much to be desired for! I think part of the issue is him not wanting to foul, but he's really just not good at the screen and roll action.
That arm-bar took 3 steps to accomplish as well. I think that's a big part of the travel talk.
The body language business and "not wanting it" is misleading. The refs set the tone real quick with our bigs taking 3 iffy fouls in less than 2 minutes. If they're playing soft or slow, its because every time they've tried to get aggressive they've gotten called for it.
Very true on the Appling play. I think a few of the fouls on our bigs were fouls but the first one on Morgan was atrocious as Payne was fouling seconds before by clearing Morgan out, so I do think you have a point about Michigan never being "allowed" to play physical.
I still think this game is winnable. We made some stupid plays and had several turnovers that really helped staee. They can't play any better.
So Go Blue. Beat these MFers.
Izzo has manipulated the if/then narrative like a master all season and the media has been complicit. This is how coaches at major programs survive unfulfilled expectations: "If we we weren't hurt, then we would have beaten Michigan, won the B10 and been the team playing for a #1."
As I said earlier, the Staee alumni need to hear this. If Izzo wins today, the season long narrative works as intended and his stature remains intact. Lose and he has to fall back on the "if we hadn't spen so much time playing with a short roster, then we would have been in better synch against Michigan."