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February 5th, 2012 at 4:13 PM | What? Hockey...Great, we have (Score:5 Normal)
coldnjl
Joined: 12/31/2009
MGoPoints: 2430

What? Hockey...Great, we have beaten them at a fringe sport, which more than makes up for the loss today and the ass-kicking they have given us on teh football field the last four years! I just hope there is sarcasm there.

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:19 PM | Grab a beer, get your wife or girl in the room (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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pound her or redtube some porn and stop bitching. State's dominance over us these past 4 years ends this fall. State is starting to crash back down to Earth. Let me ask you this have they won any BCS titles under the Great Dantonio yet? They haven't won a title since the Johnson administration seriously pal chill.

We hate Michigan State. We don't like Penn State too. We don't care for Minnesota, Wisconsin or Notre Dame but we all hate O-S-U.

Michigan Blue 2008 block M hockey jersey still for sale for 50.00. FREE S/H

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:33 PM | Your a Michigan fan (Score:0 Trolling)
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and your calling our hockey a "fringe" sport?! Ok pal here's a news flash if you don't like hockey thats ok but don't EVER call this school's hockey team a fringe sport! Next to Michigan Football, Michigan hockey is life at UM! If its fringe to ESPN then fuck them. Nobody cares what they have to say anyways but in the fanbase of us hockey fans it's close to the air we breathe.

We hate Michigan State. We don't like Penn State too. We don't care for Minnesota, Wisconsin or Notre Dame but we all hate O-S-U.

Michigan Blue 2008 block M hockey jersey still for sale for 50.00. FREE S/H

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:50 PM | No need to stoop to (Score:-1 Normal)
beachbum69
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No need to stoop to rationalizations and THEN insult them, lol.  Hockey?  OHHHH BOY!  Since when does GoBlog explode over hockey coverage?  They're up right now, that's all.

 

"It will end in 2012!"

Sincerely,

2011,

2010,

and 2009.

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:11 PM | Its called a rivalry. Winless (Score:2 Normal)
coldnjl
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Its called a rivalry. Winless all year except at OSU marks a successful season for me in football

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:08 PM | appropriate (Score:4 Normal)
umchicago
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this game is followed by the "waste management open"

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:14 PM | talk about coperate (Score:0 Trolling)
coldnjl
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talk about coperate greed...Whats next...The Deja Vu classic?

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:25 PM | That. Sounds. Awesome. (Score:2 Normal)
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That. Sounds. Awesome.

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:09 PM | Can anyone try to convince me (Score:2 Normal)
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Can anyone try to convince me of one reason Beilein shouldn't bench THJ?  Seriously.

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:11 PM | no one there (Score:3 Normal)
umchicago
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i'm sure he looks down his bench and says "shit".  no so much next year.

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:25 PM | yeah, but not getting that (Score:1)
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yeah, but not getting that starting position just because of his daddy may make him play with some earnest instead of entitlement...1/10 is downright juvenile...

 

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:38 PM | 1-10 (Score:1)
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I would be less concerned about it if THJ would play some fucking defense, but his bad shooting has led to very lazy defense. He can't contribute on either end right now. Tom Crean benched Wofford to start the 2nd half. Why can't coach B do the same thing??

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:13 PM | Uh lack of a better option? (Score:1)
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Uh lack of a better option? Which is sad really, with how poor he is playing that there is no one who can step up and take it from him.

"This is MICHIGAN ferGODsakes"

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:27 PM | true (Score:1)
umchicago
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i really thought we would see improvement out of smot and vogrich which would provide some great depth.  uh, not so much.  very disappointing.  their minutes may disappear next year with the incoming frosh.

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:13 PM | No arguement here, although (Score:1)
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No arguement here, although he needs more work with the coacheshe forces to many bad shotswhen he's nothitting.

cheat, cheat, and cheat some more, and when you get caught, do the right thing, lie!

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:15 PM | I've been thinking the same (Score:1)
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I've been thinking the same thing for the past 5 or 6 games.  I think he needs to earn his spot back, he has been just rotten in all phases of the game.  

Here's the call, MICHIGAN WINS!!!

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:17 PM | He's been awful lately.  He's (Score:1)
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He's been awful lately.  He's been shooting 17% for the past couple of months.  I hope he gets his mojo back, because he should probably be otherwis riding the bench.

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:22 PM | Who would start over him? (Score:2)
jmblue
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Who would start over him?  Vogrich?

Given our extremely thin bench, it's probably better to just keep playing THJ and hope he can get through it.

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:16 PM | Their plan was to stop Burke (Score:1)
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Their plan was to stop Burke today and they did it, hats off to them.

cheat, cheat, and cheat some more, and when you get caught, do the right thing, lie!

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:29 PM | for sure (Score:1)
umchicago
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but THJ was clearly the biggest culprit.  dawson had a better game and he only played 17 minutes.  he outscored thj 10-4 in those minutes.

much different game if thj does anything - on either end of the court.

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:17 PM | A tough loss, but not (Score:1)
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A tough loss, but not unexpected.  I am not inclined to say players gave up - MSU is a very good defensive club at home, and they basically shut down UM from inside and forced them to shoot a bunch of jumpers.  MSU did exactly what they needed to do, and this team (as currently constructed) is going to be worked over by larger teams.  It happens.

Still, the team is moving toward the postseason and will learn from this game.  Illinois and Nebraska are next, and those need to be wins before OSU comes to town.  But right now, considering how relatively young and inexperienced this team is at certain positions, I'm comfortable with the direction of the team.  

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:17 PM | That Was Not Fun to Watch (Score:3 Normal)
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Just a Michigan St. domination. Eh, it happens though.  I'm still not sure how we managed to hang around the 10 pt. defecit mark the whole game though.  The fact that, once again, Michigan hung around enough that if they were to have hit a few crucial shots at crucial times, they could have made a run to get within ~5 pts (and chip away from there).  But once again they missed shots they needed to make to win, and THJ looked like sh*t.  It happens.  Give Izzo and MSU credit, they played a great game and were prepared/had a great gameplan (offensively and defensively). 

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:18 PM | What is the Undergraduate Library? (Score:1)
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  An adequate symbol of today's game.

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:23 PM | Annoying game.  The terrible (Score:4 Normal)
jmblue
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Annoying game.  The terrible first-half effort really did us in.  I thought we competed better in the second half but just couldn't string together a run.  Every time we looked like we might have it in us, we'd miss a layup and then Green would drill a fadeaway at the other end.  Kudos to Green - he backed up his words with probably the best game he's ever played against Michigan.

Oh well - I'll take the season split.  

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:21 PM | Can we agree this was our worst overall effort of the year? (Score:2 Normal)
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We didn't even come close in this one. The first 5 minutes dictated the pace of the game. We were sluggish on offense and nonchalant on defense. No intensity whatsover.

"That's right. It's an off-tackle play. It's coming right over you. And there's not a thing you can do about it."

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:33 PM | I think I'd still give the (Score:2)
jmblue
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I think I'd still give the nod to Iowa.  I'm scratching my head as to how we lost to those guys by 16.  We've just had a hard time keeping up our intensity on the road, especially in the first half of games.

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:42 PM | iowa (Score:1)
umchicago
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i think we may have overlooked them a bit.  their bigs (especially that frosh) played pretty well in the first half.  then they started hitting 3s in the second half and blew it open.

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:34 PM | no way (Score:1)
umchicago
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you obviously didn't watch the iowa or virginia games?  state just poses a difficult match-up for us with all their size, and it showed with the rebounding edge.  it's a credit we won 3 in a row against them.

outside of a couple layups, i thought the D was pretty good overall.  green hit 3 or 4 15 ft turnarounds.  there's nothing you can do to stop that.  he missed those in past games.

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:21 PM | meh (Score:2)
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They have a good basketball team, we have a good basketball team, and we split the series this year.  We both should get good tournament seeds, and, as always, we're better people.

Worse things happen.

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:21 PM | What a waste of time. Got (Score:1)
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What a waste of time. Got teased when M got back to within 8. Wish we didn't spend the entire first half outside of the 3 point line. Need moar dishes to Jordan Morgan on pick and rolls.

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:44 PM | Anyone ready for (Score:1)
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The Puppy Bowl?

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:33 PM | Those people on here that (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Those people on here that think this is still a Sweet Sixteen team I hope you see now that we have a large hill to climb for that to be possible. Rebounding is about effort and hustle and I did not see either today. I know we were on the road, blah... blah..... blah, but with THJ and Smortz. playing the way they are and having no bech rotation both tournaments are going to be tough.

"No player is more important than the team,. No coach is more important than the team. The Team, The Team, The Team"

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:37 PM | you realize (Score:3 Normal)
umchicago
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we lost to the #9 team on the road right?  

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:40 PM | rankings (Score:2 Normal)
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look at the teams ranked 10-20 and ask yourself if we can't beat them on a neutral court; despite thj.  i say yes.  and i say we can beat the top 10 teams, if thj gets his act together.

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February 5th, 2012 at 6:05 PM | Perspective (Score:3 Normal)
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Winning road games in the B1G is tough.  Winning in Breslin in tough.  Winning against the #9 team, on the road, in Breslin, is really tough.  (wish we would have given it a better effort, but my head is held high)

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February 5th, 2012 at 5:37 PM | Here are some teams from last (Score:4 Normal)
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Here are some teams from last year who made the Sweet 16:

  1. Marquette - 20-14
  2. Richmond - 27-7 (A10 conference, though)
  3. VCU - 23-11
  4. FSU - 21-10

All of those teams had flaws at least as bad as UM's lack of size, yet all found a way to get hot for at least one weekend and beat a couple of teams.  So no, I'm not going to freak out about a tough loss against the #9 team in the country, on the road, in the Big 10.  This team isn't a FF squad, but this was a bad game, not some harbinger of a lost season.

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February 6th, 2012 at 12:08 AM | Who said anything about a lost season. (Score:-1 Redundant)
UMFanstuckinOhio
Joined: 10/15/2011
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I think this team is still making strides to show improvement for this program. I just do not feel that the team is playing well enough to cover up major flaws it has and they will be exposed in the tournament.

"No player is more important than the team,. No coach is more important than the team. The Team, The Team, The Team"

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February 6th, 2012 at 12:01 AM | Trolling?? (Score:-1 Trolling)
UMFanstuckinOhio
Joined: 10/15/2011
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I am simply respomding to commentsmade last week in a discusion about the sweet 16 after the Ohio loss. Do not accuse me of trolling. What a buch of crap.

"No player is more important than the team,. No coach is more important than the team. The Team, The Team, The Team"

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February 5th, 2012 at 4:50 PM | I could do a lot of things (Score:-1 Trolling)
UMFanstuckinOhio
Joined: 10/15/2011
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if a lot of other things would happen first.

"No player is more important than the team,. No coach is more important than the team. The Team, The Team, The Team"

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February 5th, 2012 at 5:10 PM | If you can't get into college (Score:1 Normal)
ThadMattasagoblin
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If you can't get into college go to state clap clap.

903 wins most in college football

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February 5th, 2012 at 6:14 PM | This game was painful to (Score:2)
crjorgensen
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This game was painful to watch. THJ is absolutely awful and forces so many unnecessary shots it is unreal. It is hard to bench him though just because we have no one else to step in. He is terrible on defense as well. Does anyone else seem him as being kind of like a cancer to this team? I honestly think Belien needs to not start him against Nebraska just to let him know that he isn't invincible and is capable of losing his starting spot. I don't care if he comes in right after the first T.V. timeout. I just think he needs a wake up call because he just seems like he only cares about getting points and when he doesn't get his touches/points he just loses all focus in the game. I am just frustrated watching this team right now. I figured we would lose to state but didn't think we would play this poorly.  I think the only players that ever play with any heart on this team are Burke, Novack, Morgan, and Stu and I don't even think Morgan and Stu are any good lol....It is going to be sad when Novack leaves because this team lacks any leadership outside of him. I think Burke will eventually take this roll but it is so hard for a young guy to be a leader. Just hope we can finish strong and make it into the tourney and hopefully make a sweet 16.

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February 5th, 2012 at 6:17 PM | Congrats (Score:3 Normal)
MGoSoftball
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to MSU.  They had a better game-plan and executed much better than us today.  Greene was playing on half a leg and Appling seemed to have his head on straight after many games of playing poorly.

Congrats Sparty, Congrats.  Today is your turn in the sun.  Enjoy it while it lasts.  You certainly deserve all the credit and praise today.

 

From the Red Cedar Message Board:  "God hates us."  Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does.  Everyone hates you.

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February 5th, 2012 at 7:07 PM | THJ (Score:2)
Medic
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Picked a bad time to have the worst game of his career. Don't know what has happened to his shot but the dude can't hit *anything*. Confidence? Technique? Focus? I dunno, I hope he can power through whatever the problem is in time for the tourney. Yeesh

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February 6th, 2012 at 12:45 PM | THJ is now 7 for 40 from deep (Score:1)
Umich Agent 0
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THJ is now 7 for 40 from deep in his last 7 games. I don't know what to do about it though because I don't want Akunne out on the court...

 

Also, how do people feel about J Mo getting more touches? I feel like he is actually a decent post player offensively, but I don't think he gets the ball down there enough. Also, as some of you may have seen me post before, I want Jon back more and more every game, anybody know his status? I mean, I realize he is dressing and traveling now, but whats the plan for the future? It's a shame he can't redshirt, he only played in 4 games that meant anything at all.

Hail to the colors that float in the light

Hurrah for the Yellow and Blue!

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