Can't wait! Go Blue! Beat the RedHawks!!!!!
Michigan vs. Miami-Ohio open thread
Another Friday night win, plz!
its on 1537 (at least in the Raleigh area).
In Chicago, if you have comcast, its channel 232 in HD.
Worst state ever.
Hagelin draws a penalty!
Or should I say, Bork! Bork! Bork!
Another penalty on Miami
So i noticed that at 1:05 left in the period, I heard the chant "How Much Time Is Left."
Is this common throughout college hockey, or something that they stole from us?
carefully. That particular cheer is pretty common, but they stole EVERYTHING from us (minus the C-ya chant, I don't think they could make out exactly what we were saying). Kinda like we took everything from Cornell. Except, we know that we took everything from Cornell and we've added/modified a little since. Miami took most of the Yost cheers verbatim (including the yipyip on the PK!) and every Miami fan I've talked to is convinced that they came up with them on their own.
At least our stuff now isn't exactly the same as Cornell's, but Miami honestly took like everything from us. Then they deny it if you ask them about it.
Wait. "Bad boys" on the PA when Miami goes on the power play? Gross.
Need to do a better job of keeping possession.
I still don't really like Rico so much, but he gets buku bonus ponts for his words about Brendan Burke during the intermission feature.
Shots 16-6 Michigan in the first. Let's keep that up in the 2nd. Go Blue!
get a f:cking score please?
1-0 Michigan, 2nd period. NTM going to power play.
Better calls have been made. And as I write this, Michigan's pk implodes badly and Miami scores.
When playing Miami, I'll take CCHA incompetence over Hockey East incompetence any day.
Yep, I'm still mad about that.
Well crap. 1-1 Miami scores on a PP goal after an iffy goalie interference call (I thought he was pushed into the goalie..)
Goalie interference, really? There were two Miami players that ran straight into Moffatt who was stopped before that. Poor, poor call that led to a Miami goal. I really despise the back ref some of the time.
they displayed the refs, the first thing I thought was, "Sergott... really?"
Shegos, Sergott all of em.
Winnett for tripping in the offensive zone. Another Miami PP
This sucks. I hate Bad Boys already.
STAY OUT OF THE DAMN PENALTY BOX!
Pateryn for tripping. Regardless, our PK unit is reeling. We've been sloppy in the defensive zone and our unit isn't showing any discipline at all.
For those wondering, still tied at 1 but Michigan has gotten three straight penalties. Awful reffing. Fuck this!
Ref's are picking and choosing what they want to call. Gotta call 'em (or dont) both ways.
Yeah, that would be what happens when your PK unit plays badly against a really good PP unit. Well, if your goalie's playing well that is. Otherwise they score immediately and it doesn't matter.
Treais again!! 2-1 us!!!
WOOOOO LONG WRIST SHOT 2-1 MICH
Treias scores his second of the game from the blue line! great shot!!!
Goal! Treais! Nasty!
AJ Treais from the blue line. 2-1 Michigan
Miami has a 0 goal differential in the third period (it's their worst). They're at their best in the 2nd period and we're at our worst. If we can get through this, we certainly stand a good chance of winning in the third (our best period).
I hadn't ever cared about a hockey game until Michigan's run last year, and now I find myself very emotionally invested in them even though I don't understand anything that's going on.
The key to good hockey is good passing. If you can keep the puck away from the other team, you can control the flow of the game and force the other players into unfavorable matchups. Sort of like soccer.
Some types of hits are legal. I think checking with the body is generally OK but whacking someone with your stick isn't. One of the tougher penalties to figure out is icing, which is something you see typically in penalty kill (PK) situations where the D wants to get the puck out of there as fast as they can. Icing is where you are standing behind your own goal and hit the puck all the way down the ice to the other team's behind-the-net area. (There's a word for it but I don't know what it is.) The penalty for icing is a face-off in your defensive area at one of the red circles. Other penalties have the dreaded 2-minute routine, where you have to sit out the game for 2 minutes. A lot of goals get scored during those times. If you're down a player (or 2!) you want to try to kill the penalty and not get scored on, and vice versa if you're a man up. Sometimes at the end of games teams will pull their goalies for an extra attacker if they're desperate for another goal.
Thanks. That all matches up with what I'd gathered. Now can you come explain my homework to me in the same fashion?
If you have questions relating to anatomy, general chemistry, or non-calc physics, sure.
Argh, so programming featherweight java typecheckers isn't your specialty? Shoot. You'll be the first person I ask if I have any questions on molarity later though.
Hey, molarity can be pretty tricky. The last test we took, the class average was 59%. Our prof likes to curve the average to C to C+ so we're potentially looking at a 15-20 point curve.
Edit: I got an 83 on the last test...just wanted to make that clear.
Nicely done. It's been four years since I touched that stuff. I was never considering chemical engineering, but Chem 103 and Materials Science would have convinced me not to if I was. I could do the math but I still can't comprehend how any of that stuff actually works.
if you have questions about specific facets of the game, go ahead and ask. myself or someone else can likely explain your questions.
I understand what's going on in terms of penalties and objectives. I'm just at a level where unless someone is scoring or doing something blatantly awesome I don't really know whether they're playing well or not. Unless the puck is on one side of the ice for an extended period of time I can't tell a good team from a bad team.
I guess it's similar to my knowledge about all other sports in that respect.
is to watch defensive rotations (who defends against who) and the amount of space and control they allow their assignment. that and how well the pass is placed are the first parts to focus on. hits, placing the puck, knowing where the open man is - that you'll pick up. to be honest, your best bet is to watch an NHL game you couldn't care less about and just try to figure out who's playing well
one of the more complicated calls to figure out for an observer:
Icing occurs when a player is on the defensive side of the center line and shoots the puck past the offensive goal line, without it being touched in the meantime. (if it runs into the goalie in the net, it is also not icing)
The "penalty" for this, is a face-off in the defensive zone AND the team that just iced the puck may not complete a change (which isn't always a huge factor, but if it's been a long shift for them already, then that part of it can be pretty important).
Icing will be waved off (theoretically) if:
The opposing goalie leaves the crease to play the puck OR
an offensive player can get to the puck before it crosses the goal line (or at least the linesman rules he can) OR
A defensive player gets to the offensive face-off dot before an offensive player does OR
the defensive team is short-handed
Hopefully that clears things up a little for you. I'd try to explain stick penalties, but it if you're interested in those, it would probably be easiest to just read the rule book, not that it's going to help so much, because every ref has a different opinion of those anyways...
Miami called for tripping.
First Bad Boys, now Stayin' Alive. This DJ is officially brain dead.
Got to get a better shot off on a breakaway. Not good Louie, not good.
is crap tonight.
Michigan PP...never mind. Treais with a dumb trip in the offensive zone. 4 on 4 for 1:36.
Great story about Louie, Hagelin, and Rust. Good move by them to stay for their senior season, and they're all very impressive men.
They've definitely left their mark, and I think they have a shot to bring in that national championship this year!
ps. did anyone watching that story see the "Michigan Hockey Historian" they interviewed? Some lady named Mickey?
Michigan played really well. Miami had 4 power plays in the period (to our 1) and only scored on 1. Considering we are on the road and they are the #3 PP in the country, thats not bad. There were tons of penaltys in that period, and I doubt there will be many in the third, which favors us, as Miami has been completely outplayed in this game during 5 on 5. As someone else mentioned, the third is their worst period as well. If we can get the next goal, this game is ours.
Ive ever seen a hockey team take this many penalties in a season before. Were getting like 5 a game and they come at the worst possible times, like right after the other team scores, or when we are on the powerplay.
I thought our stupid penalties would stop since Llewellyn was kicked off, but it doesn't seem like they've slowed down at all. Not fun..
where I can watch the game. From what I can tell, M is sloppy on the D. Too many penalties. Go Blue.
Great play by Pateryn, diving to save that breakaway without tripping him. Well done
Oh boy, another great defensive struggle.
Edit: Okay I'm done. I will move to a shack in Montana and write a manifesto against civilization now.
WHat the hell did that referee see? I watched the dvr replay 3 times!??!
How much time is left, my gametracker is shit tonight?
Just under 9 min
Man would this be a nice win. Really takes the pressure off for tomorrow night.
Gotta hold on!
So I take it from the last 5 comments that things are going well.
They're doing "more goals"????
Not just that. They stole EVERY cheer. Sieve sieve sieve, more goals, how much time is left, you name it. Not sure about C-Ya.
Sure, our cheers were originally stolen, but we made them different and better, and we added more. They completely took ours word-for-word. I bet their dumb ohioan students think they made them up, too. Shitting fuck on a stick.
when you give them 6 powerplay chances eventually they are going to score.
the four Michigan killed were all legitimate penalties, the two Miami converted on were pretty poor calls.
RE-goddammed-DICULOUS! Of course that trash call would lead to a goal.
Also, copy more cheers, Redhawks. Seriously. copy more cheers.
Awful reffing. That's the second PP goal they scored off of shitty calls. six min left, tied at 2
We were around hick country somewhere, in the middle of the Worst State Ever...
talking about third periods again. 2-3 Miami. 4ish left in the third.
3-2 Miami. Yet another defensive breakdown.
We got the puck out, had it in the offensive zone for a short time, but they came back and scored.
WHAT THE FUCK HOW THE FUCK IS THAT A FUCKING PENALTY
Yeah, just a great penalty to take...
should have been thrown out of this game and the next for that hit.
Response to all the comments in this general area/time:
That was a dumb penalty by Wohlberg. But even the homer commentators said "wait a minute... that looked like a dive!"
They should have both gone off for roughing or obstruction, but that was a total and complete oscar performance by that red _awk muncher
Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb penalty. He's incredibly lucky that wasn't a Major.
Did you play for MSU?
Copy Wisconsin too. Nice one. Only make sure you're awkward though. Don't jump, just wave your arms in tandem...there...now you got it.
2:09 3-2 NTM, Mich still down a player 3rd period.
I know it was bad and all. But that guy got FUCKED up. They deserve it especially because of their fans.
Mich goes empty net with 47 seconds left.
Edit #2: Split? Split.
They lost this one in the first period. Should put them away, instead we were only up one goal
We need to close out. We played a dominant first 10 minutes of the third, then fall apart. Forget it, another game tomorrow. I'm getting a beer.
Now to collect all of the items thrown in the direction of the TV. This team is extremely hard to watch, sometimes, especially when the officiating is ridiculously against us.
that was utter shit. We outplayed them for sure.
I doubt anyone saw this, and it was probably just me or my tv set... but early in the game, 1st or second period, their goalie made a huge toe save to keep them in the game. The play-by-play guys went nuts over it. But they never showed a replay.
I'm not getting conspiracy theorist here, but I could SWEAR his foot was in the goal when the puck bounced off it. It looked on my tv like there was a few inches of ice between his toe and the crease, and that would mean the puck went in. Not seeing a replay made it a lot harder to know if I'm just crazy or not
Anyone else see it?
Edit: interesting note: the graphic was very telling that showed NTM had about half of their shots on powerplays. Says something about our discipline and our affinity to getting screwed by poor calls. (I mean really, would Scooter haul someone down when WE had the puck? That was a hook on their guy for sure, he just tripped over his reeling body).
deserved to win that game. 7 penalties against, one (Wohlberg) that should have been much harsher, 5 total that were decent calls, those 5 killed. Two calls that were not good, at all and Miami converts. Then one defensive breakdown (one of very few by Michigan in the game) and game Miami. Five is too many penalties regardless, but they outplayed Miami for a good portion of that game. Sad to have a perfectly good hockey game decided by the refs. The good news is, now the guys should be good and mad and ready to take it to Miami even more tomorrow to salvage the split that I would be happy with. Though I will be interested to see what Red says about the officiating, he wasn't happy when he was interviewed mid-game.
2 other notes:
1. Our players that are supposed to score, really have got to learn to score, especially when they're given opporunities. I was pretty hard on the forwards the last couple games for not creating opportunities, tonight they created, they just didn't finish. Which is another significant reason why we lost this game
2. Chad's defense hasn't been great lately, the GWG against State at the Joe was on him and I don't remember if Miami's GWG tongiht was on him, but he definitely made a couple really dumb decisions that if they didn't lead to goals/opportunities, really easily could have.
(OK, I lied) 3. PATERYN!!! He was very, very good tonight. And Bennett is starting to play pretty well too. But Pateryn was sensational most of the night, I thought. That whole third line/d-pairing combo, was good, I thought, I really like the move of Brown to that line, I said before the game that I'd prefer to see him and Lynch switch it up. It paid off for Brown, I thought. For Lynch... not so much, he made several pretty poor defensive plays again tonight. I get not scoring, but he has GOT to start looking like he knows what he's doing, at least defensively, when he's on the ice.
Pateryn was AMAZING, and he saved our asses with that diving poke check. However, the GWG was actually a lot of his fault, and a lot of their player (can't remember which) pulling a sweet move. Pateryn came out to challenge, but sort of weakly threw his body instead of engaging a full hit. He overcommitted too late, and the guy spun around him, passed in front, bam, goal.
Second, completely agree about the people who SHOULD be scoring. Louie had a complete breakaway chance, had Reichard flailing, and tried to stuff it five-hole (and got unlucky, the goalie was saved there that it didn't slide through). However, if he waited a TINY split second longer, the entire top left of the net opened up as Reichard scrambled to get his pad down. All he needed to do was roof it, and that's a goal. He had him beat, he just guessed wrong, but that's something a pure goal machine should be doing. He hardly made a move.
[note: he was being slightly hooked, so that might have done it, but I don't think the guy was close enough to alter him that much]