Michigan vs. Kansas State mens bball NIT season tipoff final open thread
game at 5 PM on ESPN
Pitt up by 21 in the third place game
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:42 PM ^
Now THAT, sir, is racist.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:38 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:35 PM ^
Timmy is going off.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:36 PM ^
our best player so far this year
But what's up with Trey, he's not tearing it up like I'd like to see
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:37 PM ^
calling these games.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:41 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:39 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:41 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:41 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:44 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:42 PM ^
I hate to keep ragging on this point; but Vogrich is a complete liability on both ends of the court.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:44 PM ^
Exactly what are you talking about?
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:46 PM ^
He's completely out-matched physically. I've seen guys just reach over his head to grab rebounds at lease ten times in the last two games. It would be one thing if he was hitting a shot every now and again, but he's 36 percent from the floor. Why would you have him in there versus Stauskas or anyone else for that matter?
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:54 PM ^
The only times guys have "reached over his head" is when he has rotated to pick up someone's man defensively, which he has done very well. His on-the-ball defending has been solid, he hasn't given up anything.
Vogrich's freshmen year I really disliked him, but ever since the 2011 NCAA Tennessee game I've come to see some of his strengths. He has really grown defensively, specifically as a team defender.
Plus, he can hit any three that Stauskas can.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:11 PM ^
I gotta disagree. The plays I'm referring to he was blocking guys out and they just straight-up jumped over him.
And he's pretty obviously not the shooter Nik is. 36% from the floor and awful from 3 this year. I will give you that he's probably a better position defender than Nik at this point.
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:18 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:13 PM ^
Very good point. But at what point do you just want your best five guys on the floor?
November 24th, 2012 at 1:56 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:48 PM ^
Vogrich is not was Stauskus is on the O side, but Stauskus is not a step up over Vogrich on D. That is why Vogrich is playing. Stauskus needs more experience, and with that will come a decreased role for Vogrich
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:51 PM ^
Well said. I'm sure he is better positionally on D than Nik is in practice.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 PM ^
Vogrich being Gritty McGritstein.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 PM ^
We should be killing this team. Can't let them hang around.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:55 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:44 PM ^
Burke scoreless? Wow.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:59 PM ^
Per some folks on Twitter, Burke isn't on the stats sheet as even taking a shot in the first half.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:45 PM ^
We're underachieving but winning. If we can start executing in the second half, I like where we're headed. If not, this one goes to the buzzer.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:45 PM ^
why Trey is sitting firmly on the bench? Is this a teaching moment?
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:48 PM ^
You get 2 in the first half and you sit. Coaches M.O.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:48 PM ^
2 fouls.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:46 PM ^
Seems odd that Beilein has experimented with line-ups so much in a champsionship game. Makes me think he is trying to prove a point.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:49 PM ^
A championship in name only...
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:50 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:50 PM ^
I don't know if we can 'kill' this team, but I think if we keep up the hard work we will have a great chance of winning. Once Trey Burke settles down and teh team begins to make some 3-pt shoots (which is so far lacking today), we will win.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:50 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:51 PM ^
Doris Burke has got to be one of the worst announcers I've ever heard. Some of the things and questions she asks makes her seem absolutely clueless...
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:57 PM ^
I disagree. I think she's doing fine. I think it's funny that everyone's ragging on her. Very telling?
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:58 PM ^
Most of the complaints I've seen summarized: "She's a woman!"
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:05 PM ^
Negged for disagreeing with his non-substantiated opinion! How dare you think the female announcer is doing an OK job!
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:49 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:59 PM ^
The questions she was asking were some of the worst questions I've heard from an announcer. It was painful.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:58 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:58 PM ^
Really need to work on consistency. When we're on, we're dang near unstoppable. When we're running around without a plan, we get ourselves in trouble and give up easy baskets. So much potential on this team, hope we get to see it realized.
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:58 PM ^
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:00 PM ^
Having Stauskas come in off the bench is more important than having him in the starting lineup. I like the fact that we can put a highly skilled guy in around the same time an opposing team might be taking one off the court.