Michigan vs. Arizona (Snowflakes) Thread

Submitted by Mr. Yost on

Tough loss. Fuck this year in Michigan sports.

Wolvmarine

December 14th, 2013 at 2:32 PM ^

Hey, its a game of two halves.  UM needs him to play the way he did in the first half for the entire game.  Maybe disappeared is to harsh, but after a loss when you had the lead for most of the game, maybe not.  He has struggle all year so far, and played much better overall today.  But, UM needs him to improve if they are going to try and get back to an elite level.  This will be a different team as March approaches. 

991GT3

December 14th, 2013 at 3:08 PM ^

strong rebounders. He is a shooters coach and against top teams unless his shooters are hot he will find it diffcult to win. Arizona had 9 offensive rebounds in the first half and only got two points from those rebounds. In the second half, they scored much better off their rebounds.

The great Marquette coach said to win NC you need an aircraft carrier in the center. Right now McGarry caanot do it on his own. 

ilah17

December 15th, 2013 at 12:16 AM ^

Rebounding bothers me too. I understand it's not a big part of how Coach Beilein coaches, but gosh darn it hurt to see Arizona getting 2nd and 3rd and 4th chances and UM hardly ever did! We were lucky they weren't making those shots in the first half, we could have been down by 10 at least at the half.

Nieme08

December 14th, 2013 at 3:40 PM ^

The troubling thing about GRIII is when things aren't going his way on offense, like in the second half today, there's a noticeable decline in the effort on defense.  There were several instances in the second half when he looked disinterested on the defensive side of the floor- especially noticeable with his blocking out. 

Mr. Yost

December 14th, 2013 at 2:14 PM ^

Beilein killed us by never playing McGary and Horford together. Just a terrible move when you're getting KILLED on the boards and the other team is making an effort to get the ball inside.

Stauskas killed us by trying to be the hero every time he touched the ball in the last 2 minutes.

Duke, I can take...that was on the road, the refs were awful, we looked like deer in the headlights.

We should've won this game, no question.

cbs650

December 14th, 2013 at 2:44 PM ^

and honestly since McGary plays majority of the time on the perimeter, It's almost like we are playing no bigs. our rebounding issue is because we are always crashing the boards from the perimeter. we very rarely have a big station near the basket battling for boards. u can't box out if your flying in from the perimeter to rebound

MGoCarolinaBlue

December 15th, 2013 at 1:08 AM ^

I really think their best possible lineup is



LaVert/Stauskas/GRIII/McGary/Horford



I think they would be fantastic on defense.  LaVert and Stauskas tend to be liabilities on defense sometimes but they are almost always tasked with guarding bigger players.  I think in this lineup we would be great defensively, great on the boards, and still have enough ballhandling and passing at 1-4 positions to have an efficient offense.



Albrecht is the perfect 6th man also.  He thrives in big moments, brings great energy off the bench, and he can manage a lead, manage the shot clock, etc.

woosterwolverine1224

December 14th, 2013 at 2:15 PM ^

I can't really be upset with this team, they are young and will just get better throughout the year.  Heck they already looked significantly improved from the Puerto Rico tournament.  Just hate the foul on McGary, but that was a legitimate number one team.

JMEISTER

December 14th, 2013 at 3:34 PM ^

this was a tremendous game to watch.  Both teams very classy, hard working kids.  Both coaches as well.  It's always tough to lose, especially a game that you could have won.  But, I'm proud of my Michigan team and love to watch them play, win or lose.  I love the way Beilein coaches, and isn't a loud mouth or foul mouth.  Very proud, hurts to lose, very proud.

 

Paps

December 14th, 2013 at 2:29 PM ^

I guess we could call Florida State a good win? Maybe? I don't know...

When Michigan came out with no good OOC wins in the year they didn't make the tournament under Bielien when they had Manny Harris and Sims, it was obvious they were undersized and overmatched. I don't get the same feel of the team this year. I think the pieces are there, and as good a coach Bielien is, (finally a Michigan coach with a track record we can trust) I think we will rebound with a nice win over Standford, and set our sights on Big Ten play

flysociety3

December 14th, 2013 at 2:41 PM ^

I'm not writing off the season or anything.

I think this team has the potential to put it all together, but it's just a frustrating process, I guess.

I don't really know what my expectations are for the season anymore. There are some super encouraging runs every now and then, and if the team puts it together, I could see them making a Sweet 16 type run....

StephenRKass

December 14th, 2013 at 2:53 PM ^

Michigan is breaking in two freshmen in the backcourt. They lost the player of the year in Burke and a second guy in Hardaway to the first round of the NBA draft. Even Kentucky, with all their one and dones, can't expect freshmen to mesh immediately with the rest of the team.

If you think about it, both MSU with Izzo and Duke with Coach K schedule lots of difficult OOC games, which helps them finish strong in the conference, and also in the NCAA's.

I'd much rather have the losses now, and play stronger in the Big 10 and in the NCAA, than have a perfect record now and falter later.

enlightenedbum

December 14th, 2013 at 2:17 PM ^

Fuck that fucking bullshit touch foul.  There are my snowflakes.

We're fine.  Playing two bigs is basically playing into Arizona's style and clogging our offense.  I'd rather risk it the way Beilein did.  If we don't get a bullshit foul called on us, we're shooting free throws to beat #1.

RDDGoblue

December 14th, 2013 at 2:22 PM ^

I am with you here.  Often I see people on this board talk about "one call shouldn't beat you, play better" or some such comments.

In this case, I feel that it is pretty obvious that one incredibly questionable foul call changed the outcome of this game.  Can't blame the players, they played well enough to beat #1.

RDDGoblue

December 14th, 2013 at 2:56 PM ^

I certainly see where you are coming from.  To me, the difference here is that the ball went out of bounds.  Someone had to make a call, and maybe no ref had a good angle.  I can get that kind of call, because there was no option to swallow the whistle if you arent positive that you saw something.

But to blow your whistle and stop play when you dont have to, to me, makes it a bit less excusable.

Indiana Blue

December 14th, 2013 at 7:42 PM ^

when the shot clock is running down and there is less than 1 minute to play.  That call and the 2 free throws changed the entire strategy at the end of the game.  Yeah - they missed the one off McGary, but NS was called for a charge that was an obviously block too.

In close games the fers need to swallow their whistles ...

Go Blue!