Game on ESPN2, and maybe the last good one till almost the new year (Iowa State isn't what they once were, and lost to Drake). So might be the last exciting game with a month's worth of development (maybe more...how do we start AND end the Big Ten season with Penn State?). And if I'm wrong, there's always Rudolph at 8 pm. (Oh who am I kidding, set your dvr).
Michigan-Virginia B-Ball Open Thread
Streaming on ESPN3, for anyone who needs it.
but not too lazy to reload? 7pm
"Nazi UFO Conspiracy" on the Military Channel. No, I'll watch Michigan hoops, thanks.
My dvr only let's me record 2 programs!!
60-56 UVA. flame away
Why post something specifically to be flamed? Give analysis at least.
i was way off
I thought this game was LIVE
Hmm.. cant find a stream on atdhe.tv... anyone know of another one? I don't have access to espn3...
Love ya, bud!
Nice usage of parenthesis, M-Wolverine. Only makes the post slightly harder to read.
For an open thread next time.
Oakland at the Palace isn't an entertaining game? Did they lose a lot of talent or something?
OU beat Tennessee 89-81
for the reminder - I am at work and forgot to set my DVR, now however, thanks to you it is being recorded and I am set - GO BLUE!
snack - check, kids sedated - check, start the game
Virginia is a good defensive team. Another very good road test for this tough Michigan team.
Predicting Jordan doesn't let Mike Scott go completely bananas, and our guards outplay theirs
We win in a close one, with Mike Scott getting something like 17 pts, but Jordan battling him and getting 12 pts on 5-8 shooting, and grabbing 7-8 boards of his own
Don't mean to interrupt the thread but I thought everyone would like to know that Brionte will be visited tomorrow by Fred Jackson and (WR Coach) Heck in his home. Shall we buckle up? Meyer will be voting soon with Hoke following behind (most likely).
I'll be upset with mgocommenters if we end up under twenty Led Zeppelin jokes in this one.
Smotrycz finally gets a shot off from under the rim instead of just flailing like a trout.
Smotz with the drive...like his new found aggressiveness this year
I think we have more talent and better coaching/discipline
UVa was chanting "Let's Go _____!" What was that _____? It sounded like Blue to me so therefore they must stop it
Wahoos I believe
It's "Hoos" (short for Wahoos).
Out of curiosity, why are they called the Wahoos? Does it have something to do with Cavaliers that I am unfamiliar with?
a Wahoo is a fish reportedly that can "drink" 3 times its weight. (I know, I know... its a FISH... it DRINKS with every breath. No, I don't understand what it means.)
But, Virginia used to have a rep as a party school. They liked to think they can chug beer w the best (read: Dartmouth). So, the student body years and years ago decided to call themselves the Wahoos b/c they can drink so much. And it stuck.
A "Double Wahoo" is someone with both undergrad and grad UVa degrees. A "triple Wahoo" would be, like, BS, MS and PhD, all from UVa, etc.
Yeah, as dumb as naming yourself after a nut.
Guessing it was "Let's go Hoo's." Would sound a lot like Blue.
Timmy needs some touches... Yet I love how no one forces it and it all comes within the flow of the offence.
where's all the maize i was expecting?
Two fouls early. Not good.
Vogrich in before Stu?
can we not rebound or what
Vogrich in before Stu?
Hahaha..Announcer said Smotz a "guard that can't dribble"
Guard who can't dribble. Did he mean that as a compliment?!?
UVA's offensive possessions turning into slop fests.
Ball just not bouncing our way; two in a row, good stops but missed the rebounds.
Horford needs to not start his post moves when he's 10 feet away from the basket.
I like Horford's moves, just don't think he has the strength yet to be a real post presence
You mean the "one" he has??? Two dribbles and throw it over the right/left shoulder??? He has potential, but he has a long way to go...
Agreed that he has work to do, but if he has the strength to get post position 4-5 ft from the basket and not 12ft...I'll take 4ft jump hooks all day
Very sloppy early. Would maybe like to see us go big against Virginia.
Whenever you play on the road, if you can survive the first 10 minutes without digging yourself in a hole, it's a good thing. Just need to figure out UVa's defense and the points will come. Luckily they're missing shots and having turnovers like we are.
It's been all defense and missed shots. It's been 10-9 for about three minutes.
I am intrigued...
Vog before Stu so he can spell Burke because of THJ's foul trouble. I get it...
These 5 on the floor are not going to be scoring much, no one can create a shot.
Thankfully, they don't shoot very well
I love our Maize jerseys.
I hope Curtis Staples doesn't get hot from beyond the arch for VA. If he does, game over.
Get a ladder and take the lid off the basket.
tough calls going against M, but we're lucky they can't shoot
Can somebody throw up the score occasionally. I like reading everyones comments while I'm on the road but I hate having to switch between apps to see the score. Thank you in advance.
Eastern Michigan 17
Ill put it in all my posts from now on
Burke is awesome, huge three at the buzzer
Trey Burke three pointerrrrrr. I miss Manny....
13-10 Mich 810 left in 1st
Is there anyway we can get a chat open like we do for the football games?
It slows down the site apparently, so not a good idea for more minor events.
An announcer who knows we don't ALWAYS use the 1-3-1? I'm impressed.
You mean Jay Bias isn't calling this game? Whaaaaa?
defense playing solid right now.
EDIT: too bad we can't capitalize
More fouls than I'd like though...
I've never understood for 4 years how Stu and Novak have so much trouble making layups.
You could tell Smotrycz was going to reach in on that one. Couldn't help himself
At this rate, this may be the 2nd game in 4 days that Michigan wins 40-34
...but I think it opens up a bit in the second half. THJ will be back in the game and creating offense for us.
"As far as offense goes, this isn't a Picasso."
Smot bails them out with a cheap reach in foul late in the shot clock.
17-12, UVA shooting 1-1 after the TO.
his customary 17-20pts in the second half. At this pace that should be more than enough to secure a win
Were Eso Akunne and Christian expected to get much playing time this season? I've already seen a lot more of them than I did last year. Would be great if we can get some productive depth.
We're gonna lose a game over free throw shooting here if we don't get it in order....
i thought we would have forever learned from the wisconsin game last year.
This is like the Wisconsin-PSU game in the big ten tournament last year.
19-18 M, with 2 mins to go in the 1st. Both teams having more trouble scoring than a gaggle of acne-ridden D & D players at a middle school dance.
Glad Morgan is coming back in, Christian can't make a layup, a free throw, or a jumper.
No way we lose this game. TImmy will get his 15 in the 2nd and our defense is better than theirs no matter what the announcers say.
jinx watch is officially on
Eso. He plays good D, but he might as well never cross the half court line for Offense
Like our football team, we will perform better in the second half
2 missed foul shots, then missed open jumper and then turns the ball over and fouls the guy...not a good stretch, UM up 19-18, with 1:56 left
Morgan, airball free throw. Ugh.
Mclimans and Jordan in atthesametime. 20-19 good guys
Were they giving the Asshole chant to Morgan? Da fuck?
Whoops, my bad
They talk about Zack Novak's three year captaincy every single game. I'm not tired of it.
Not a great half, but with THJ's minutes reduced big time, you've gotta feel good about Michigan's chances.
Down 1 at half, gotta think THJ will be the difference in the 2nd half
Given the halftime score, I assume Michigan wins this one 40-34
On that final possession. He was wide open
Tenacious defensive battle. I like that, except for the losing by one part. Get 'em, Blue!
Hate to call out Beilein, but I think he was being way too conservative with sitting THJ basically the entire half...
He has two personal fouls. Why risk a third? I'll take being down one point at the half if it means he can play big minutes in the second half.
My only concern would be that he might be cold and might take a bit to heat up in the second. Hopefully, that isn't the case because we need him to be big in the second half.
Timmy is a second half player. In the Maui tourney, he definitely scored most of his points in the second half. If I'm not mistaken, he scored all of his points vs. Duke in the second half.
That was true last year as well. In the home MSU game, I think he scored all of his points in the second half.
also hate to call out beilein, but these 10 man rotations are getting annoying
This early in the season you are still looking for the right rotation so it will be cut donw as he finds out the rotation he wants.
Work well together in different situations, and vs. different line-ups.
Don't look now, but Eastern is only down 8 at half to the Syracuse Fine Touches.
I love this kid
Smotrycz and Burke are taking over.
I'm diggin the retro gym socks look
Hey guys, deep shots = deep rebounds...
vintage Smot, makes a nice drive to the basket, and commits a dumb foul at the other end
So we can't rebound at all? Paging McGary
Trey Burke just owns Virginia 3-on-1. Crazy good moves.
that spin move made me shout.
Virginia is gonna double us up on shots if were not careful
these are some pretty soft fouls. I guess, you'd expect nothing less with ACC refs.
Really? That's a block? Even Joe Harris stood there with his hands up acting like he did nothing because even he knew that was a charge.
Every time we score we gift them a bucket with a turnover or foul, we need to pull away fast
Does anyone miss the physical basketball of the 80s and 90s as much as me? The weak little touch fouls really get my blood boiling these days. Especially when the offensive player blatantly initiates the contact.
34 points and we have 3 guys in double figures. Interesting.
Morgan with the Slam!
on a Monstrous!! Jordan Morgan dunk
Hello my name is TIMMMMMMMY
Seriously, let em play refs
I believe it is TIMMMMMAAAAAYYYY
Obligatory MAZandBLUE bitching comment about the basket still counting despite it being an offensive foul......
Can't wait for McGary, we cannot grab a rebound
inconsistent his entire career. If we could get anything out of him, it would be a different ball game
neither team has any playmaking ability so far
What a weak foul called on Smot
That was a bad foul by Smotrycz.
Can someone give me a score and time left? Please and Thank you!
Burke starting to force it a little bit and not run the offense, still tied, and Smotz just picked up a 4th foul
This game sucks !!! Michigan is letting UVA hang in there and you know what they say when you let a team hang in there for too long
Lot of dribbling on the offensive end
I wish Smot could learn how to not get in foul trouble....
I wish he'd freakin' stop forcing shots like an idiot.
if we're not careful, this one could get away
The refs in this game are being very sensitive.
i guess we decided not to run any offensive sets this game. not working out so well.
Burke and Douglass are making us easy to guard by dribbling down the clock and then trying to turn the corner off the high screen.
no flow in the offense....dribble drive without any movement. 3 bad shots in a row.
Beilein needs a timeout.
We should not be losing this game right now, I don't see the hustle on the offensive or defensive end so far
Everything is one on one. We cant beat them this way. We have to run our offense
I haven't agreed with a single foul call on either team this half. Do they know that it isn't required to blow the whistle every time down the floor?
Agreed. It's pathetic what's called anymore these days.
and that might have done it.. damn 3
Tough cover for Novak
There is such a thing, right?
Well this is insanely frustrating.... Gosh we are not playing well at all
Well Morgan not being able to catch a pass when wide open directly under the basket may have just cost us the game, go from down 2 to down 9 very quickly.
Team doesn't deserve to win tonight.
Did this guy really just say the games over?
12 pt lead just might be too much
we didn't bring our A game today.
Did this guy really just say the games over?
The way we're playing, it's done.
I realize that, but to say a single digit game is over with 9 minutes left to play is very unprofessional.
And quite matter-of-factly too
That Jordan Morgan fumble when he had a dunk was HUGE! Might need to play Horford and Morgan at the same time
I think that might have to happen
on Offense right now. If Tim stays invisible we are going to lose no doubt. TIMMY WHERE ARE YOU?!?!?!
Feel like this game is pretty much over. Lulzing over the announcers talking about bringing Smotz back when he's a foul machine.
Just no one hitting anything
Except UVA. This could get ugly
STOP FORCING SHOTS TIMMY
Haven't had a decent shot in about 7 minutes.
i don't think we've made a shot in 7 minuets
When did Virginia turn into Duke? And what is with the shot selection?
To a dagger.
If we're every going to have a run in this game, it has no choice buy to be now.
Scott could be taken out of the game with a raging case of herpes simplex. One can dream tipsy dreams, no?
Just don't have it tonight. Look like garbage.
We're not getting any calls tonight, and we can't get a rebound to save our life.
barring a bunch of steals/TOs, this game is over.
Agreed. They totally lost all concentration. Beilein better rip them a new one.
Bennett coaches like his dad. Teams play great d and slow the game down. If they hit shots, they're very hard to beat. Ugly games, but effective.
It was just tied and I went to take a p&$$ and now its a blowout. Cant we hit a shot?
How long was your piss?? We've been getting our asses kicked for a good 15 real-time minutes.
Anyone think the team came in too cocky? I see no sense of urgency.
Need to have a bigger body on Scott and should have earlier.....Blake McLimans is terrible at offense but is a good shot blocker...shoulda gave it a look in the 2nd half
eh, if it's not your night, it's not your night. (As a Laker fan, I've gotten really good at being able to shrug off your superior hoops team having inexplicable faceplants where the players refuse to run the offense or get a rebound)
Except college games like this can cost you a trip to the NCAA tourny
Is costing you a trip to the Tourney, you probably didn't have that great a case to begin with.
If at this point of the program we're just scraping into the 64 we have bigger problems than Virginia.
Most frustrating game to watch in the last two years. Just pathetic.
Hit a 3 here and we're in shouting distance.
Holy hell this is awful. Get a rebound, make a shot, something...
Then give one right back on the other end on an offensive board.
yea that jack from a SENIOR just cost a 6 point swing too unreal
Just because you make one from 24, doesn't mean you should shoot one from 27.
What makes those 3s even more frustrating is that his form is SO UGLY!!!
Sene is holding guys like crazy!
with so much junk all night. Uggggh so pissed at the crap not called on them and the small stuff called on Michigan.
F this game. Unbelievable
THAT was the dagger, down 7 give up an offensive board that turns into a 3. For future reference, please box out and learn to jump when the ball is coming, the defender can't get it without an over the back call.
shot selection of any Senior in the Nation and games like this will guarantee THJ comes back for his Junior year. He looks average out there
Tough to travel this soon after Hawaii. They just look out of sync on both ends.
Michigan shouldnt need those...
beat Iowa State on saturday
somehow they get away with murder on defense
THJ never even got off the bus.
Hell, he's still in Hawaii. In retrospect, JB probably kept him out too long in the first half. Oh well...
Tough to win shooting 33% with 0!! offensive rebounds. This team is bound for better nights then tonight
Shit. That is all.
what would a season be if we weren't on the tourney bubble.
Our confidence is so fragile. Most embarrassing half of basketball I can remember in a long while. Bad coaching (Novak on Scot), bad focus (travels, turnovers) and bad shots (hardaway forgetting that passing is a valid option, too). Putrid putrid basketball.
Credit Virginia they have smothered us on defense, but my god Stu Douglass has the worst shot selection ever, you would think 4th year in the offense would make a difference but it hasn't.
Look tired and lazy oout there. No offensive sets, too much dribbling
Seriously, does every team wait until they play Michigan to start knocking down 3s? It is like Duke all over again.
See all those offensive rebounds, they're out hustling us. Dropping 3s isn't the issue
Forget this, I'm going to take out some aggression in MW3. Stupid basketball...had to ruin my football high.
It's one game, they have plenty more left. Relax, this is still a young team aside from the Novak/Douglass combo.
The Island of Misfit Toys was on the OTHER channel? I must have tuned into the wrong thing after all...
How much would this loss hurt us?
Depends. If we play up to expectations this year it shouldn't matter at all. For the top tier of team that are going to make he tournament, any given regular season game is borderline meaningless.
a lose ball is not a foul i guess wtf
Let's be honest we've had one game where we weren't shit all year: Memphis. I trust we'll get it together but not much to inspire confidence so far.
We played tough against Duke. They just hit everything. They're good.
UCLA too. Not a real good team, but we didn't let them look good either.
Anyone want to talke about that???
I like where thats going
there is no way we should have played this game away.
You can thank Nebraska.
Because we had a choice...
Well this is no fun.
Until I see who it ISN'T, When they talk about Virginia having Tony Bennett on the sidelines, I think to myself, "That's awesome!"
Just a bad effort all around.
Well that was fun got our ass's kicked now Im going back to getting my ass kicked in biochemistry what a great night
Word. Horrible day of class, this, and now four more hours of studying.
I just don't even know what to think after this steaming pile. We came out with no heart and no effort. Virginia looks horrible, this could really end up haunting our RPI. I think anyone would beat us the way we played tonight.
Yeah, Morgan and stu look super wimpy tonight. Scared of their own shadows.
I just had my 'double post' cherry popped.
Nothing you can do when a team shoots the lights out like this. Major match up problems with thus team. That dudes hair just killed us.
Losing to the unranked UVA boys kind of dampens the fun a bit. Maybe they'll turn out to be a good team, but this seems like a let down following Memphis & Duke performances.
Doesn't seem like we had much luck hitting our shots, and there were a few silly calls.
this VA team is not that good. they have 1 maybe 2 decent shooters. we just got completely outhustled on the boards and constantly dribbled into traffic, turning the ball over or forcing bad shots. beilein will have a field day with this in practice this week.
Who else wants a drink?
As much as I hate to say it. We'll never be a consistent team until we get a big man down low that we can go to when we are struggling to find our shots. We don't have that and it hurts as you can see tonight. We let that skinny ass 5th year senior Scott take control of this game and I doubt he has another game like this the rest of the season. I am so disgusted losing to this team. I really hope they prove me wrong and end up being a decent team. (UVA that is)
If Beilein teams were only judged by how they play in December he'd have been fired 5 times over. It's how he has them playing in February and March that matters.
I am a bit concerned with this performance, but I have confidence that we will be fine when the NCAA tournament rolls around.
Anybody else think we are expecting way to much of Hardaway? I mean he was above average last year and had a good summer, but he no longer has Morris to feed him the rock and he has appeared to disappear from parts of games. He will be good but hes not a superstar yet.
Beilein is going to be livid about that half. Five individuals and not a team.
Beilein is going to be mad at himself and the coaching staff when he goes back and watches the tape. He let a great opportunity slip by in the first half to really put some points up on a team that struggles to score. Given the large amount of prep time, they also had a poor offensive game plan to go up against that type of switching defense. I lost count of the # of times they dribbled into a double team at the top of the key which through the motion offense out of sync. Guh. Even great coaches can have a bad game.