He's a very good player, but this is puzzling. Could it be T-Rich is wavering more than we thought? Any other explanations? Given our tight numbers, I don't see us wanting to add a 5th DB.
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"The Wolverines had three coaches including Brady Hoke talk with Top247 prospect Armani Reeves on Tuesday."
Looks like the coaches arent
T Rich's whole announcement was shakey
I've been concerned since he committed that he was not 100% blue. The whole announcement scenario was pretty confusing. He was announcing - then he wasn't - then he was having a presser - then he wasn't. I will be surprised if he ends up honoring his committment.
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He's a great talent. Why not keep the door open?
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When I first read your title, only the name "Armani" stood out and the name Armanti Edwards involuntarily popped into my head. I think I just threw up in my mouth.
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those thoughts
are best kept private in the interests of the rest of the Mgoblog community
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I had to share, if only because you all can commiserate!
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Nooo
Think happy thoughts. Amani Toomer.
That's who I thought of. Good
That's who I thought of. Good times.
My first thought was
My first thought was that T-Rich was wavering more than we thought as well but maybe the coaching staff is making sure they have a back up plan in case something does happen.
Penn State was recruiting him
Penn State was recruiting him for both sides of the ball, IIRC. While we hadn't recruited him to play O, I guess there's a small chance that's where some of the renewed interest is. I'd prefer to have a WR over 5'11 though.
What if
What if they are going after him at WR? Just throwing it out there.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
ignore... redundant
This has nothing to do with T-rich, and they are interested in him as a WR? Some say he may be better on that side of the ball. It seems like our race for 2 wideouts is still wide open.
I still find it interesting
I still find it interesting that we have heard nothing from T-rich/RJS about the BBQ.
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RJS
has said that he is 100% commited and does not plan to take visits after the coaches disapproved. We'll be fine with him.
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Definitely interesting. TomVH
Definitely interesting. TomVH signal to tell us if we're switching him to O or if the coaches know something about T-Rich? If the latter is the case, it'd be nice to also keep in contact with Wright too
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& Wayne Morgan
& Wayne Morgan
When the " Great Richardson
When the " Great Richardson Visit Crisis of 2011" began, Wayne Morgan said in interviews that he would be willing to give it another shot with Michigan. I don't think the issue here is finding someone who will leap into Richardson's shot...I believe it just opens the door, and it's back to first come, first served, as always. I would think that would apply to Morgan, and quite possibly to Richardson too, if he comes back before anyone else takes the jump (unless there's bad blood, which may or may not be the case).
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I would assume that T-Rich
I would assume that T-Rich was told he loses his place at the table if he goes a-wanderin', and this opens the door for other prospects like Reeves who wanted to wait until latter in the process. I wouldn't be surprised, if that assumption is correct, to hear Morgan's name resurface at some point. Not that I claim any of this is cold hard fact, for the modertor-istas out there.
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What does that Ace Williams
What does that Ace Williams guy have to say about this? FWIW Reeves looks PSU bound but you never know.
a quote from Reeves
"They’re not really satisfied with the corners they have there now"
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I'll assume
I'll assume this is a quote he had about Michigan. And if he's talking about the corners we currently have on our roster, no duh, our corners our pretty bad save maybe Blake Countess and one or two others. But if he's talking about the corners we're recruiting, I'd be very surprised.
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I'll assume
I'll assume this is a quote he had about Michigan. And if he's talking about the corners we currently have on our roster, no duh, our corners our pretty bad save maybe Blake Countess and one or two others. But if he's talking about the corners we're recruiting, I'd be very surprised.
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Where are we really full?
The way I see it, LB and S are the only positions that the coaches really won't take another commitment at.
After taking a DT and a WR (to get to 23), I believe they'll be flexible with the remaining spots, as long as it's an elite talent. Could be QB, RB, WR, OL, DL, or CB.
Given that Standifer may be a S in the long run, a CB might be more attractive than initially thought. If Reeves wants to commit maybe they let Richardson take his visits (and his chances) to decide later, if there's still room.
Hoke did make a comment at
Hoke did make a comment at the presser that they have more bodies at saftey than corner, and Standiffer has been mentioned recently as a better saftey than a corner, so you may be on the mark. If you think about Richardson as the only real corner in this class, then the picture at that position does change in rather dramatic fashion.
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Another issue, which has been
Another issue, which has been often discussed behind certain pay walls (and which doesn't involve T-Rich waivering, for those who need hope) is that Standiffer's performance at The Opening revealed certain flaws in his ability to play corner at that level of competition- not to say that he could not play, but that he looked far more like a saftey than a corner. I haven't heard that discussed here, and I have no idea what weight to attach to that, but people on Scout were discussing it pretty vigorously at the time.
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Wow
Not sure throwing out baseless theories is the best way to demonstrate the ridiculousness of someone else's baseless theories.
Aww thanks that means so
Aww thanks that means so much!
You, on the other hand, are adding everything to the conversation. Confirming what you view as a fact that we are recruiting him for corner, even though you have absolutely nothing to back up what you say. Thanks for you contribution!
And also, you're completely wrong about Morgan. He has publicly said that he would look at Michigan if a spot opens up. It's unlikely that he ends up here, but the ship has not completely sailed. Try again, Ace.
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So what about Reeves' quote
So what about Reeves' quote that "I wasn't because of anyone going anywhere else, it was more because of the group of guys that they have now."?
That makes it sound like it's Standifer, like some of the rumblings have suggested.
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I'm not saying that it's
I'm not saying that it's about Standifer. I never said that I personally think it's about him, I'm just saying that you cannot say it's definitely about Richardson. When I hear that he decommits or is taking visits, then it is confirmed. But it's not yet, so don't act like it's a fact.
Also, calling me "useless" on the internet is doing nothing. You do that almost every time you comment on my posts, and it's really having no effect. I don't pretend to know more than anyone here. I just love Michigan and come here for the best news. At least I'm not a complete douchecock like you. So go ahead and keep doing it. If it makes you happy, then good for you.
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I just keep picturing this as an argument between bluto blutarsky and beavis....which would be no contest...therefore i'm inclined to side with waggles.
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could also be about the existing roster
Not necessarily about Standifer.
If it is about Standifer...isn't that a significant misjudgement by the coaching staff?
Let it go fellas
Noone is winning any arguments or points. we have an awesome class going and this type of thing happens 7 months+ away from signing day. Michigan will regain its tradition, toughness on D, and I see lots of Big 10 championships in our future. Who cares about one guy leaving, our defense has many needs but they will all be filled come the season.
Michigan will rise again
Based on the
247 article, reeves said we're looking at him to play CB.
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Sam Webb had said that TR for sure loses his spot if he takes visits.
Good...
I have absolutley nothing against a kid taking his visits and enjoying this expierience, but if he has been told about the "first come, first serve" tactic and he wants to take visits AFTER he has commited in my eyes thats not being about the team.
If you're taking visits after
If you're taking visits after you have committed, then you're not really committed. That's what the staff is probably telling him. If a player is still window shopping, then the school needs to be recruiting other players.
Reeves has a good frame
I'm pretty sure he can bulk to a defensive tackle.
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Eh...he might have to take a
Eh...he might have to take a redshirt year for that.
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Sarcasm aside
Last I heard, Wayne Morgan was still interested. If we're still in the hunt for Reeves and Morgan then those are some good back up plans.
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The way I see it, we are
The way I see it, we are bound to lose a couple of kids to decommitment at some point.
I don't say that because of predictions about our season or anything along those lines. Its just that almost every team has a couple kids decommit in a given recruiting year. And with around 7 months until signing day, the chances seem high we will lose someone.
So for that reason, it only makes sense that the coaches would be keeping lines open with recruits.
Its not something I'm too worried about considering the monstrous class we have set up at the moment. We may lose one or two but we'll add at least that back and end up with a top 10 class at worst.
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This doesn't make sense unless...
someone's wavering in his commitment. I just can't see taking another DB with our other needs out there. Unless for example the coaches are happy with 5 OL commits + 2 preferred walkons, and use that spot for a really good CB like Reeves. But to me, getting 2 really good DT's would be a better use of scholarships as well as 2 WR's. And I think we need to keep a spot open in case we can get Dunn away from the Dark Side. It'll be interesting to see how all this plays out.
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I'm not disagreeing with you
I'm not disagreeing with you (in fact I tend to agree) but I would say there are other ways of looking at it. For one, they may have a spot which, at this point, is simply for "best talent available" (Diamond/Reeves?/Dunn/Fuller, etc.) more than for a certain position. Also- it is possibleHoke and Co. are worried about corner. After this year we will have exactly one proven commodity who has displayed potential on the field at that position- Avery. Everyone else is unkown, and will still be underclassmen to boot. People generally assume Countess will do well, that Tamani Carter probably has a low ceiling, and as to Brown and Taylor? Who knows. That leaves a lot to unproven underclassmen in 2012, and that's before you count in the possibility of attrition. Grade problesm, injuries and transfers could potentially alter the situation further.
Even assuming Richardson is solid and Standiffer is a genuine corner (contrary to some rumors), it could be that Hoke feels the need to hedge his bets. We've all seen what can happen when the worst ALWAYS happens to your secondary.
That's just all theorizing. I certainly agree (and tend to think) two DT's are important and that we'll get them. But we do have SDE's who could slide over and play some tackle. We don't have anyone who can play corner if Avery's legs fall off and Taylor and brown prove to be somewhere in the meh-to-bleh range.
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Remember when...
everyone was pining for Reeves, we had to have him, he's the best DB on our list, etc. Now we can't understand why the coaches want him.
I'm going to go out on a limb and venture a guess that Coach Hoke understands his team's need and the recruiting landscape better than any of us. God knows he's out recruited me over the past few months. I'll trust his judgement and assume i'll be pleased the night of the first Wednesday in February 2012.
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Not worth a new thread, but
Not worth a new thread, but Trieu just tweeted that "One of the Midwest's best has made a decision. Stay tuned"
Could be #22?
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if it is us
it is either darboh or danny obrien
But sir, but sir, BUT NOTHING
Rumor is
M. Madaris to Nebraska...
Correct spelling? Not sure.
It's me Waggles
With my stone hands, tree sloth like agility and blazing 5.6 speed... I have decided to attend the U of Michigan..
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According to Sam Webb
The coaching staff won't tolerate commits taking visits. Sam said Terry was intent on taking visits, and if he does, the coaches may no longer guarantee his spot. Terry's curiosity may cost him a spot in this class if he takes visits. His decision tho obviously.
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This will be tough when classes fill up early like ours
Since more of this will simply happen due to timing. While the number of early commits is different for us, any idea of precedent down at Texas with Mack Brown? Wonder if he allows it.
Looks like the coaches arent too confidend with t-rich's commitment situation.
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