Michigan T-23rd in AP Poll
Complete Poll
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/polls
| Rank | Team | Record | Pts | Last Week |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1. | Oregon (45) | 10-0 | 1485 | 2 |
| 2. | Kansas St. (14) | 10-0 | 1451 | 3 |
| 3. | Notre Dame (1) | 10-0 | 1382 | 4 |
| 4. | Alabama | 9-1 | 1259 | 1 |
| 5. | Georgia | 9-1 | 1223 | 5 |
| 6. | Ohio St. | 10-0 | 1212 | 5 |
| 7. | Florida | 9-1 | 1089 | 7 |
| 8. | LSU | 8-2 | 1046 | 9 |
| 9. | Texas A&M | 8-2 | 1031 | 15 |
| 10. | Florida St. | 9-1 | 1024 | 8 |
| 11. | Clemson | 9-1 | 907 | 10 |
| 12. | South Carolina | 8-2 | 848 | 12 |
| 13. | Oklahoma | 7-2 | 798 | 14 |
| 14. | Stanford | 8-2 | 766 | 16 |
| 15. | Oregon St. | 7-2 | 556 | 13 |
| 16. | Nebraska | 8-2 | 549 | 18 |
| 17. | UCLA | 8-2 | 541 | 17 |
| 18. | Texas | 8-2 | 496 | 19 |
| 19. | Louisiana Tech | 9-1 | 374 | 19 |
| 20. | Louisville | 9-1 | 322 | 11 |
| 21. | USC | 7-3 | 297 | 21 |
| 22. | Rutgers | 8-1 | 179 | 24 |
| 23. | Texas Tech | 7-3 | 135 | 25 |
| 23. | Michigan | 7-3 | 135 | NR |
| 25. | Kent St. | 9-1 | 93 | NR |
- Oklahoma St. 79,
- Northern Illinois 77,
- Mississippi St. 48,
- Wisconsin 26,
- UCF 16,
- Boise St. 14,
- Arizona 6,
- Cincinnati 6,
- Fresno St. 6,
- TCU 5,
- San Jose St. 4,
- Utah St. 4,
- Tulsa 4,
- San Diego St. 3,
- Northwestern 2,
- Washington 1,
- Toledo 1
November 11th, 2012 at 12:37 PM ^
Yeah, Florida definitely should have dropped after being down against LA-Lafayette for the majority of the game. Just shows you the pollsters don't actually watch the games and just see the final scores. Pretty absurd.
November 11th, 2012 at 12:45 PM ^
The pollsters probably just figured that La-Lafayette is in SEC country, right, so they must be pretty good. No need to drop UF for almost choking against a sort-of-SEC team.
November 11th, 2012 at 12:39 PM ^
/s
... but seriously.
November 11th, 2012 at 12:34 PM ^
November 11th, 2012 at 12:35 PM ^
November 11th, 2012 at 12:47 PM ^
Nebraska is most definitely NOT the best team in the conference. No way I was going to let that comment pass without rebuttal.
November 11th, 2012 at 12:46 PM ^
November 11th, 2012 at 12:57 PM ^
ND also got one first place vote in the coaches poll.
November 11th, 2012 at 1:27 PM ^
They got one in the coaches poll too. Dollars to donuts says it was none other than Brian Kelly trying to give his team a little BCS boost.
November 11th, 2012 at 1:35 PM ^
he had them at second last week, behind Alabama, so it's definitely possible.
November 11th, 2012 at 12:52 PM ^
So do you think A&M feels like the new kid in high school who just broke the star quarterback's leg in practice right before the start of the playoffs trying to make a "hustle play"?
JV player makes a great play.... has to appologize to the rest of the team.
November 11th, 2012 at 12:59 PM ^
Is Lou Holtz a voter? Wondering how ND received a #1 vote. Luckiest 10-0 team ever.
November 11th, 2012 at 1:11 PM ^
vote right now. i think bama can and would beat any of the three teams above right now and as much as i dislike nick satan, a bama v. oregon game could be very entertaining. nd is not that great and though you may not like it if they sneak into the championship game, you can bet the house that the point spread will be inflated (domers bet like lemmings) and that they would be brutalized against an excellent opponent.
November 11th, 2012 at 1:12 PM ^
I guess I will be the guy that defends ND. I have no problem with them eeking out wins. You can only play the teams that are put in front of you and a win is a win. No way a 1 loss SEC team should get in over an undefeated ND, K State, or Oregon. I could care less what is on their resume. They lost, at home, to a freshman QB. If you want to play for National Championships you have to win at home. I am sick of the SEC pandering.
November 11th, 2012 at 1:52 PM ^
Thank you. I don't understand why so many people have such a hard time understanding this.
November 11th, 2012 at 1:56 PM ^
November 11th, 2012 at 1:13 PM ^
I was just thinking this morning that if we had won that Notre Dame game, their season might have gone much differently. I don't know how it would have changed our season, at least in the Big 10, but I have a feeling they wouldn't be sitting at #3 today (and not because they would have had the one loss to us).
November 11th, 2012 at 1:19 PM ^
and its bogus that there are 7-3 teams ranked above us. 2 of our loses are against 2 teams in the top 5 and our 3rd lose against a team in the top 20. I dare say we are better than most 8-2 teams.
November 11th, 2012 at 1:53 PM ^
We also lost to ND because we shot ourselves in the foot an inordinate amount of times on the road and the Nebraska loss (also on the road) is pretty much 100% attributable to Denard's injury and the failed "Bellomy as 2nd string" experiment. It isn't like those teams were just better.
I wouldn't want to play Oregon or Bama, but at full strength I like our odds against just about anybody else.
November 11th, 2012 at 3:07 PM ^
November 11th, 2012 at 4:00 PM ^
I never said we were the third best team in the country. I said, in so many words, I think Bama and Oregon would kick our ass, but I don't think there is another team in the country that we couldn't/wouldn't play a competitive game against with Denard healthy.
Don't really see what is so controversial about that statement.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:05 PM ^
November 11th, 2012 at 6:02 PM ^
Ohio State is totally going to kick the 2003 team's ass. I mean, we'll need a lot more than Navarre Throwback Stampede to beat anybody with a pulse because winning one close game in the midst of a long season is a totally accurate assessment of where a team is at, as is an upset against a team that played a very difficult game the week before.
As for being on the way up, we've won over 78% of our games the last two seasons. That's better than the historical average (.735) and the marks posted by both Lloyd Carr (.753) and Gary Moeller (.758).
If you expect things to be any better on a consistent basis then you are probably setting yourself up for disappointment or you have invested a lot of money in Brady Hoke statues.
November 12th, 2012 at 1:38 AM ^
... this year. We're not realistic contenders for a Big Ten Championship or a BCS at-large bid, and there are a bunch of teams with a more impressive resume this year than us.
Seriously, pick any metric other than "I feel it because I'm a Michigan fan". Advanced stats? FEI/S&P/F+ have 20-30 teams ahead of us. Computer rankings? About the same. BSC? Same. Coaches ratings? Same. Signature Win? We don't have one - with MSU's implosion, we've lost to every decent team on our schedule except NW. (If you're using a game decided in OT requiring a Hail Mary catch off a deflection just to get there as evidence of our superiority in anything, I think there's something wrong with your reasoning.)
Heck, NW might beat us right now, to say nothing of A&M.
My we're-on-the-way-up comment is mostly that I anticipate that soon - perhaps next year, but more likely 2014-2015 - we will be in that next tier down, and with a break or two looking to crack that top tier.
This year, though? If we're betting, I'll take 6-8 teams not Alabama or Oregon against us without even thinking about it too hard.
November 11th, 2012 at 1:31 PM ^
November 11th, 2012 at 1:48 PM ^
Stanford's D is legit but I don't know if their offense can get it done. They benched their QB and inserted a freshman who looked good at times the last two weeks but made some mistakes that kept OSU in their game (Stanford was -3 in turnovers but outgained the Beavers by 100 yards). Oregon is also going to crowd the line and force him to make some plays over the top. SC has been the only team to keep it close against the Ducks and they did it by hitting a bunch of big plays. Not sure Stanford has the receivers or the QB to do that with any kind of consistency.
Should be fun to watch though. If any D can slow them down it is Stanford's, just don't know if they can get away with a ball control approach against an aggressive Oregon D.
November 11th, 2012 at 2:01 PM ^
Stanford's offence has already been lit up by one spread team this year in Arizona. They can be run on. Washington's running back had over 140 yards, averaging 7 yards a carry.
November 11th, 2012 at 2:18 PM ^
Stanford stifled them pretty much the whole game except for one long TD run.
UA beat them threw the air to the tune of almost 500 passing yards on 69 attempts (Carey's longest run was 13 yards and Scott had a negative rushing day). I think Scott/Buckner/Hill are a lot better in the passing game than what the Ducks have, especially when it comes to covered receivers making plays against a DB.
November 11th, 2012 at 2:51 PM ^
Might have said that before last night, but when Cal stacked the box Mariotta carved them up. The fact that Oregon shutout that same Arizona offense makes me wonder who good that Stanford D really is. I know Cal's D isn't clsoe to Stanford's, but Cal isn't is bad as their record indicates. By the end of the year it looks like Cal wil have played only 2 teams that won't be eligible.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:04 PM ^
USC torched Oregon's D repeatedly and Stanford totally shut them down so I don't know how valuable the Arizona comparison is going the other way. I guess my main point on the Stanford D against Oregon's O is that Stanford has a shot to slow down the running game without really crowding the box (like they've done against just about everybody, including really against Arizona). If that happens, I'm not sure Oregon can throw the ball to actually covered receivers and consistently move the ball (as opposed to the glaringly wide open guys they hit because the offense and the way teams defend them gets those guys all alone in the secondary). Arizona's receivers made plays over DBs that I don't think the Oregon guys can make in the same situations, if Stanford can force them into those situations (which is obviously an open question, but I think they've got a better shot than anybody else on the Ducks schedule).
On the flip side, it won't matter if Stanford doesn't play much better on offense than they have all season, which I don't really expect to happen.
November 11th, 2012 at 1:50 PM ^
November 11th, 2012 at 2:00 PM ^
http://prevailandride.blogspot.com/2012/11/cfb-week-10-shamepaint.html
This is a week old, when bama was still undefeated, but still a gem. I desperately want to see how ND would fare against them.
November 11th, 2012 at 2:39 PM ^
November 11th, 2012 at 4:44 PM ^
The BCS Standings typically are released around 8:30 PM ET on Sunday night, so we'll know soon enough.
What I find intriguing is that now these AP and Coaches Poll share 23 teams between them - the same six SEC teams, the same 5 Pac-12 teams and the same 4 Big XII teams most notably, along with Clemson, Florida State, Nebraska, Michigan, Rutgers, Louisville, Louisiana Tech ans Notre Dame. It's even getting to a point now where the ranks of all these are becoming similar as well. I just find it interesting that, most years, these polls experience a merging of sorts.
November 11th, 2012 at 2:45 PM ^
ND - Despite their incredible luck at times, their D is still one of the best in CFB this season. There is no real reason to believe that any of the top teams would take them just because they've barely eeked out wins against Pitt and Purdue this season. And I point to that Team Down South back in 2001. Using a stifling defense to eek out wins against MAC teams and bottom of the barrel B1G teams, but still going undefeated. Most prognosticators had them losing to Miami big in the NCS game, but they pulled that one out too. ND is a very good team, despite what some of us may like to believe. I'm ok with them being up there, even as I cannot stand Kelly and what a NCS game, or BCS win might mean for him.
Bama - Ranked #4. I thought they would move down to at least #5, behind UGA, but who cares, really. They should win out and win the SECCG as well. It would be one of the great debacles in CFB history if all three of the teams ahead of them now go unbeaten, and Bama still got into the NCG. Are they the best team? Arguably, yes. However, it's the season that is important. And they lost to a team that has two losses already. At home. That means alot, considering the season as a whole.
Oregon - Injury issues forced what should have been a cakewalk for them into a close game for one half. Their QB, to me, is every bit as good as the kid from A&M, and maybe a better passer. Their WR's aren't elite, but they all have talent and 6 TD's thrown by their QB shows it. I don't think Stanford can beat them, especially in Eugene, but, of course, stranger things have happened (A&M over Bama, for one).
November 11th, 2012 at 4:09 PM ^
This now makes the BCS very very very interesting. It's entirely possible that 6 teams will HAVE to be passed over in the BCS.. projected BCS games (Assuming the SEC teams in the top 10 wins out as well as the top 3, which is entirely possible).
NCG:
Oregon (1) (PAC 12) v. Kansas State (2) (BIG 12)
Fiesta:
Notre Dame (3) v. Florida (5) (SEC)
Sugar:
Alabama (4) (SEC) v. (14) Clemson (ACC)
Orange:
Florida State (11) (ACC) v. (19) Rutgers (BIG EAST)
Rose:
Wisconsin (NR) (BIG 10) v. Stanford (15) (PAC 12)
Capital One:
Georgia (10) v. Nebraska (22)
Gator Bowl:
LSU (6) v. Michigan (23)
Other than the Fiesta and MNC game, the rest is subject to change. This is going to be one wild ride.
November 11th, 2012 at 5:14 PM ^
Florida's ranking is horseshit
November 11th, 2012 at 5:41 PM ^
I would agree that Oregon should be number one right now. What I don't get is how people say they are sure Bama would beat the top 3 teams. Have you watched their D the last 2 games? They don't look good. Klein and Oregon would light them up, badly. Don't buy into the BS media SEC bias. It is absolutely absurd that LSU and A&M are ranked ahead of one loss teams like Clemon and FSU.
November 11th, 2012 at 7:26 PM ^
November 11th, 2012 at 10:36 PM ^
...getting a first place vote, seriously? The sole voter in the AP poll to place ND #1 was Pete DiPrimio...who is a writer for the Fort Wayne News-Sentinel. Fort Wayne is approximately two hours from South Bend. To top it off, the Fighting Irish also received one #1 vote in the Coach's Poll...and the coach who thought ND was worthy of the top billing? Brian Kelly. Of Notre Dame.