It's very important to end up at a school that you love. Having said that, more than one career has been ruined by going to a childhood favorite school, who really didn't fit that player.
Michigan still recruiting Steve Elmer hard
I've figured it out. This has got to be TomVH's under-the-radar account.
He just said Ole Miss is a damn fine school. US News ranks Ole MIss #157 out of national universities. I was unaware there were 157 national universities.
I would equate this to the term "Business School hot" which was/is used to describe acceptable ladies at Ross who appeared hot given their local competition, but out in the wilds would be marginal to "eh" at best. Ole Miss is the "Business School hot" equivilant in the SEC/Academics discussion...
What about Vandy? I thought they were the Harvard of the SEC?
Vandy has realistic expectations. They're like the boy in school, who has resigned himself to the fact that there are only select girls whom he can ask to the prom. Now, there are certain girls out there, who will see past his faults, and see his sense of humor, but they are rare.
So Vandy has VD?
With James Franklin as the coach, I think Vandy may not be the doormat of the SEC for too much longer. If you have ever been to Vandy, you'd be real happy going to the prom with lots of those hot, smart and rich Vandy girls.
I think you missed the fact that he was using a little-known item of speech commonly referred to as the metaphor. Yes, Vandy chicks are hot. No, he wasn't saying anything about the attractiveness of Vandy chicks. He was simply saying that Vandy knows they can't expect to attract top talent even though every recruit ever (except Adolphus Washington) has said that they hold the educational aspect higher than anything else.
Have you seen their 12 class? They aren't bangin any 10s but they are sure as hell pulling a lot of 7s and 8s. You better watch out for that program.
From Midnight to 3am...they gain 1 point per hour.
Those 7's can be 10's by 3am...don't you worry.
It's an exact science, I've convinced myself on numerous occasions.
SEC East, which should be good enough for a rise in the near-term future.
I'm still convinced you're a Michigan fan, but, ugh...
Heck, you are too nice a guy not to like - GO BLUE!
lineman go to ND I mean they just suck the life out of 5 star lineman all the time. Lets see how many lineman are in the NFL from ND, versus Uof M not even close. But I guess so kids and parents just love their kids getting treated like crap and degrated on national T.V.
Not only linemen. Look at quarterbacks.
"Notre Dame is where 5* go to fade into obscurity."
Notre Dame - where 5 stars go to bust!
Wouldn't that just be a really sad supernova?
Degrated? Now that would be impressive.
wrong but after seeing your picture I am betting that is how the kids feel after the purple faced leprechaun goes all full metal jacket on his own players. So I am thinking you guys should let me slide this one time please.
Sorry I had to do it. Didn't have to do it twice though. I admit that was mean.
is after the UTL game how could you leave that game being all like ND is the place for me? I am not saying he should be all Go Blue but heck no way was ND all that special with the 5 turnovers and 3 of them self inflicted.
The reason he committed to ND after the UTL game was because it was so special for Michigan. The crowd was going crazy, we had a comeback for the ages and yet he still found himself rooting for the Irish.
Whether you should follow your childhood favorite is another question altogether.
Did you leave the PSU game 2 years ago liking PSU more than UM? Of course not, because you love Michigan. Same situation here; if anything, him still rooting for ND after that game shows just how much he wanted to go there.
I'd say if a guy is really 100% to a school he'd tell everyone to back off a la Kyle Kalis, Shane Morris, Dymonte Thomas, etc. If Elmer's still listening he's still a possibility. Not sure what to make of his recent dive in the rankings, but it would be great to steal him from a rival.
was not all that great. The team had a college sized Oline and the team just did not live up to expectations. Which could be part of his rankings dive. I would be shocked if he actually came with his affinity for ND and Mom being a Sparty.
scared if he is taking a dive in recruiting services ranking cause when you sign with ND you usually get over- rated and move up just cause it is ND. So falling breaks all the rules that I have learned to live with with all Domer recruits.
I don't think we have a chance. He was at the UTL game on a Michigan visit and even in all that atmosphere, he found himself wanting Notre Dame to win. He's a Domer.
said if Hoke wants him then I want him, Hoke is batting 1.000 % on his career so yeah.
Pro-tip: You can use the edit button to condense seperate thoughts into the same post, if you think of them after your original post. Making a new comment for every sentence is frowned upon because it clutters up the board.
He is just trying to get his MGoPoints up.
newer on here and didnt know that I could go back and add to the older post. Plus I mean after 100 points it doesnt really matter what your score is does it? The only thing I now points are for is to be able to start a thread. And I will work on not making a post over and over, thanks for the heads up guys.
It's all good. Just giving you a hard time.
Actually, at 400 points you get a decoder ring and Brian's cell phone number.
Brian doesn't start sexting with you until you reach 3,500 though.
i will be posting all day every day untill I hit the magic 3,500 points. I mean who wouldnt want sexting from the creator of this fine site. Yes here's another point
At 30,000 points....
So that's why he won't bring back the points system...
Yeah, but he never returns calls.
Brian, call me brah! High Five...
was a magnet
what happens if someone has already replied to your post? Should I just keep my second thought to myself or is there a trick to get back into the last post you have written? Sometimes like this thread here it just goes from zero to sixty in no time at all.
If ND wants him, then I want him so they can't have him. Not all 5 stars fizzle out at ND, and I'd rather take the wind out of their sails by beating them out for a kid they're so high on.
I'll take Pocic but it would be nice to flip Elmer-We have so many options for the last OL spot that we can't go wrong.
Too many good one's left and we are in on alot of them. Trust me
When I saw this "trust me" post from someone who'd been registered for all of two days and is still in single-digit mgopoints, I was grabbing the popcorn in anticipation of the replies. But then... nothing. Man, are you guys are getting soft. :-)
Anyway, just because we're "in on" a lot of good *ones at this point (11 months from NSD) it is still far from an assurance that we'll end up with any of the current top uncommitted targets. Granted, I'll take our current position over many alternatives, but I'm not going to start counting those (exceptionally large) chickens before they hatch, err... sign.
Agree to some extent...howEVA, Elmer seems sold on the Domers. McGovern, Pocic are probably more viable options at this time.
Besides....it's SO darn early. We have almost 12 months before NSD
lives the next town over from my hometown. I have been heard nothing but glowing reports about this kid both on and off the field. If Michigan can make he see the light I'd love to have him, but if it is not to be, I will still wish the kid nothing but the best.
urban meyers sucks so much even a kitten says he has no money
Glad to hear the Hoke & Co. aren't giving up on the state's top talent.
I cannot see why anyone would want to play for that asshole. I business associate of mine played Football at the University of Cincinnati, initially under Dantonio and them under Brian Kelly. He spoke very highly of Mark Dantonio but couldn't wait to graduate and get the hell away from Kelly. Wished he would have followed Dantonio to MSU (don't know if that was a realistic option for him or not, he just said that.)
The point - Brian Kelly is a jerk!
High school classmate of mine worked for him running equipment at cmu and said he is a special kind of asshole
There are so many negative stories about Brian Kelly, there has to be some truth to them. I heard that a certain ND player from the 'Nati (who caught a long TD pass against us a couple years ago) was unfortunately injured a couple of times during his career. His first coach, let's call him Jabba the Hut, visited him in the hospital on several occasions and called every day. I heard his second coach didn't even pick up the phone to see how he was doing.
I believe there is something to this story because, while many juniors hesitated to turn pro due to the NFL labor issues, he seemed to declare quickly, as if he couldn't get out of there fast enough as well.
Kelly came from CMU to replace Dantonio. He was not on his staff as an assistant.
read more good
IIRC cinny wouldn't grant any transfers to state after dantonio left...
I'm not terribly concerned, but it would be fun to get to cheer a Midland High Chemic in a couple years, particularly because the only other D1 Chemic I know of right now is MSU's Andrew Maxwell, whom I will boo aggressively. Last player from Midland at U of M that I know of was Phil Brabbs, but he went to Dow High. I once got in a screaming match with him at a crosstown rivalry hockey game when we were both I'm high school.
Sounds like you're from Midland. I currently live there and would love to see Hoke flip Elmer. I can't stand the idea that one of Midland's better talents is going to ND to play for Douche Kelly.
Didn't know we had so many Midlanders.
I'm a Chemic, Class of '01.
That's interesting. Would be great to take a ND commit. I've heard a bunch of reasons as to why he chose ND. One was he is/was a Sparty fan and didn't want to go there but didn't want to play for Michigan because of the rivalry, which doesn't sound too logical. Another is that he's a Catholic so ND became the favorite. That must be strictly about ND being a "catholic" university, which I think has nothing to do with their football team (look at the screaming head coach). That last O-line spot won't be open for forever so he does not have that much time to choose between playing for a national contender or losing non-BCS bowl games each year.
A national contender? Wow, I like Hoke a lot, but take the foot off the gas bro. We'll see how you make out next year when you actually have to leave the Big House. Besides, that team that you are referring to was killing you 24-7 before the epic defensive meltdown.
funny how they play 60 minutes these days.
as for leaving the big house, may I interest you in some dilithium?
But Don Criqui does it SO much better than I:
you claimed that Ole Miss is a "damm good school academically". Love your posts though. Keep them coming
Give him a break, he is not use to appending "for the SEC" to his statements.
I have a buddy who's a huge Florida/SEC fan. I've never heard him comment on Ole Miss academics. But he does point out they're known for having the ladies ... as my buddy says, "Ole Miss redshirts Miss Americas."
I have no inside info what so ever but I don't see Hoke flipping Elmer. Word on the street was it was ND or Sparty. If Hoke does great, if not whatevs. That's right, things are that good at Michigan right now that I just said whatevs to a 5 star tackle. Damn is it good to be back.
We would still need a center, however. Would it limit our options there having 5 OLs already commit?
Is our staff more likely to recruit a guy specifically to play center or take the best 5 or 6 linemen they can get and try coaching one into a center?
So would the more seasoned among this revered group fill in us less educated types:
is it fair game to pursue players who have verbally committed to OTHER schools? Only if they're NOT of the B1G (or ND)?
Or has Brady v Urban changed all that, and now anything goes?
Because if that's the case, after this past weekend, well, I don't know if the loss of such an "understanding" would be considered helpful for us, as we are clearly ahead in the VERBAL commitment wars.
I don't think there's an issue with continuing to recruit already-committed kids. I think the issue lies with continuing to call/recruit kids who have said to back off, I.e. Morris/Kalis/etc
It's true that those VERBAL commits could flip at any time but I would be slightly shocked if they did. Reading what they have to say in interviews and even on their twitter pages, these kids are incredibly excited to have the opportunity to represent Michigan and are already working on bringing other guys into the fold. That is the Michigan difference.
I could care less if he is a five star. If he is in the Big House rooting against my favorite team of all time than he means nothing to me. I don't care if he is young and I hope no one makes excuses for him. I knew I deeply loved Michigan when I was a little lad and my Dad was a ND fan. There is something born in us that makes us love this team and its a gift damnit.
not all 109,901 people in the big house were born Michigan fans. I didn't start being a Michigan fan till I started going there and then obviously it grew on me. If we're only going to recruit kids who wore Michigan footie pajamas every day when they were a kid, then we're not going to be a very good football team
I overran my point by emphatically sharing my personal love for Michigan. My point was he is a grown man making grown up choices and he is rooting for Michigan to lose. I would be ignorant to think that all recruits loooove Michigan. Some recruits have never even been to the state. My point was he was IN THE BIG HOUSE and he was rooting against us. It just doesn't rub me right.
So could this all mean that we have found our center already? The way I see it is dawson or bosch must project to center. We are still recruiting Elmer hard and in our many other top tackle prospects like pocic, mcgovern, bivin, and so on..it looks to me we are trying to get a tackle more than ANYTHING and also that we havent even offered a true center yet. Or maybe kozan is going to come who knows, but something seems strange. You would at least think they would have offered cameron dillard by now. Whats everyones thoughts on that?
I have said all along that Dawson is our center! He has said that he will do anything it takes to get on the field and looking at his tape he is definitely a center or guard. The only problem would be if he got another growth spurt but he could have been done for years. I think the coaches are going after the best available OL's now. Considering center filled.
In regards as to who is going to play center, I think alot of people are forgetting about Jack Miller. He's just going to be a soph next year (or did he RS? I really don't know) so we have plenty of time with him before we start scrambling to fill in that position. Khoury will probably be the backup (hopefully that first series in the Sugar Bowl was just nerves) and if the coaches think he can handle it they can start working on C with Dawson if they think that's the best situation for the team. I'm not worrying about the center position quite yet.
But what if he gets hurt? Or sucks? We have zero depth there after next season and we absolutely need it.
Jsck Miller will be a RS freshman in the upcoming seasonn, however depth is the big issue with the team. Also, Miller may not be big enough even this season, since he was around 265 last year. I haven't seen any film, but heard he's a nasty run blocker.
from what I've heard. Even if he decided to de-commit, he'd probably end up at State. Michigan is in great shape without him at this point.
I get that elmer is a probable 5* stud, but isnt this the same kid that was on the michigan sideline for the under the lights ND game, and found himself rooting for ND? If you can be there for one of the more epic comebacks in college football, in an environment as electric as the big house was that night (w/ all 115,000 fans on their feet every snap) and not be inclined to at least stay indifferent, then he just doesnt seem like a good fit for us. Not saying that every player needs to bleed blue from day one, but seems his heart is elsewhere. Also seems like a high transfer risk/verbal committment flipflop if he did end up blue. The coaches are doing a great job, we've already got a great class and we're not done yet. We'll be fine w/out him.
It doesn't sound like he will end up a 5* prospect. He's good, but not great. He supposedly didn't fare that well at recent event. I really like Pocic, but since he's stil considering 10 different teams, I doubt he'll be ready when the last spot is taken.