Michigan State Vs. Wisconsin

I'm rooting for Wisconsin. Don't want Sparty to have a shot at a share of the title.

It's wisky not Bucky. Please change before the wheels come off.

I think it's better for us if MSU wins, as UW has a tie breaker against us.  But then again, it would be nice to see MSU out of the race for a B1G title.  So really, it doesn't matter, and I'd be happy with either result.  Provided we beat IU of course.

Here is why:

http://www.umhoops.com/2013/03/07/big-ten-tournament-seeding-possibilities/

someone will run over Tom Izzo while he's in the middle of the floor screaming.

Granted, Massey's numbers will change depending on the outcome of this game, so this reply contains a certain amount of speculation, but in fiddling with the table I posted in the BTT Scenarios thread, you would think this game something of a wash for us (based on a table of potential scenarios provided by UMHoops). Massey puts this game up as a 74% Michigan State lean right now. 

All  that would be for seeding purposes anyway - if State wins, the two most likely scenarios would have us as either a 3 or 5 seed, which oddly enough is the same result we would see if Wisconsin pulled this out. Again, the percentages will change after the game and some revision may be necessary, but given the estimates now, we seem to be closing in on the 3-5 seed range depending on everything else that goes on this weekend in the conference. 

even if we don't beat Indiana. So go Wisconsin...except I hate Wisconsin too. So go lose, MSU

I'm rooting for the meteor. But if I had to pick a team, I'd probably pick Sparty. Don't really care for Izzo, but I feel like his team is more deserving of a title. And I respect what he's been able to do on the court over the years. When his teams have beaten us, its usually been because they were just flat out the better team that night.



I just despise Bo Ryan and everything that is Wisconsin basketball. His damn buzzer beater antics over the last few years have a lot to do with that. His teams aren't any better than ours, but they've gotten by on blind dumb luck sometimes.

and then see them lose to Penn State on Sunday. Then I want to see OSU lose to Illinois. Then when UM beats IU, UM will not have to share it with our two biggest rivals and a team that was lucky to beat our boys on a prayer of a shot (and who also did not have to come to Crisler). I also want an Oompa Loompa too.

Go Blue! Beat IU!!!

I'm not rooting for either, so I don't get tied up in other teams' stuff so much.  I'm just rooting for us to win our game.

Do I have to be kind?

/s

Uh. Go meteor? I hate both of these basketball teams oh so much. Every time I see a player from an opposing team at midcourt with the ball I twitch thanks to wisconsin. 

And state is state. Who I hate. 

#teamvolcanicerruptionunderneathEL

Go Wisconsin. Don't want MSU to win a title.

In other news, PSU is winning at NW.  It wouldn't hurt for them to win and ever-so-slightly remove some of the stigma from that loss.

Something I was considering at work today....if MSU loses today and has an early loss in the Big Ten tourny, I've had to think there is a decent chance they fall to the 4 seed line in the NCCA touranment, which if I understand correctly, would make them unprotected in regards to seeding location. I'd love to not have all of those MSU fans in the stands, cheering against us while they get shipped DC or LA. Looking at our home vs. road record, the less fans cheering against us the better! Any thoughts on this?

be like a backyard game- first one to fifty wins...

Why does every game of interest have to start at 9:00?  It's murder on us who have to wake up early.  Grrr.

What I'm hoping for is for Wisconsin to win, but Gary Harris and Adreian Payne have big games and continue to raise their NBA stock.

how did we lose to them.  their offense is so pathetic.

anyone have a stream to the game (overseas so ESPN.com won't work for me).  None of the online streams are working...

As frustrated as I get with THJ and Robinson at times, it could be worse. It could be Dawson bad. Talk about disappearing.

Good Lord Izzo is in rare form.

i love going over there and followint thier gameday threads...those guys are a new breed of ignorant

offensive juggernauts

is looking a little Garfunkely 

scoring less than a point a minute...fielding yost laughs.

i've already seen at least 4 3pt shots hit the backboard first in this game.  do these guys practice shooting at all anymore?

I'm struggling with this game.  I know the best scenerio is for MSU to win.  If so, and we beat IU, we are in perfect position at the 2 or 3 seed.

However, if we lose to IU (bare with me, I'm just saying *if*), a Wiscy win would be better for us, still giving us that 4 seed.

But more powerful, much more powerful emotionally is that I would love to keep MSU from getting a share of *OUR* Big Ten Championship Titile.  Sure, if Wiscy and UM both win, we will likely be the 4th seed and have to play MSU plus two top teams in the BTT.  Maybe I just don't care enough about that.  I would love to see MSU lose.

Am I wrong?  

I need confirmation or advice.  

It would be great to see MSU lose once again and not get a share of our title.

This is an offensive exhibition. 

He freaks out about just about every foul called on MSU. I imagine he sits in the film room and proclaims "That is the fifth straight game where I didn't see our team commit a single foul! Why do the refs keep calling fouls on us??"

It's fucking amazing to me that we made Wisconsin's offense look like the Miami Heat.

MSU is a good offensive rebounding team.  

Watching this game is giving me eye cancer. 

Watching WBB crush indiana in the B1G Tournament on BTN, and I flip the channel to see this score. And I'm looking like

Dammit Wisconsin.

I think it is possible that if this game continues to be this ugly, the Big Ten might only credit the winner with a half W, meaning this could work out very well for us after all.

This is just as ugly as when these teams played in Madison.  In the final minute of that game, Wisconsin missed 6 free throws to hand Sparty the win 49-47. 

Amazing how Wisconsin misses half a dozen free throws against Sparty at the end of the game but they make a miracle half court shot against us.  

Way to go Brusewitz...you shot it too early. 

And I believe 7 points is too many for this Wisconsin offense to overcome.

Ha. Wisconsin just got hit with a buzzer beater to end the half. I know it's not much, but any buzzer beater against Wisconsin is somewhat comforting.

This style of basketball is just so bad to watch. There is something to be said for good defense but this is just total lack of ball skills too. Wisconsin didn't even get to 20 points. I can't wait until Bo Ryan retires. Fucking ugly basketball.

If wiscy would just make their layups.

Wisconsin has a bunch of players who are like DJ Byrd with their shot selection.

Is wisconsin seriously shooting like 10%? This is insane.

I know our D is bad, but it w would be a lot better if people shot like this against us.

I think MSU's 33 points might already be enough to win this one...

This looks like high schoolers vs college players right now.

Wisconsin might not score 35 tonight. 

Is quite possibly the worst jump shooting team I've seen in a long time. How the fuck did they drain a half courter at the buzzer against us?

This wisconsin team cant hit shit

but that's what these two schools specialize in. Give me Beilein ball any day.

LOL.  When teams play against us they make blind, heavily contested half court shots with regularity.  When they play ANYONE else they can't hit anything no matter how open they are.

Wisconsin has missed like 15 straight three's and none of them has been close.   Against us? Everything that went up went in.  I wish I knew what it is about our uni's that lights everyone up and makes them shoot lights out but they all do.  They ALL do.

This game is over. 

I can't watch Wisconsin.  Taking ugly jump shots, 4 straight offensive rebounds leading to no points, missing all their 3's, missing layups.  None of these things were problems for them when they faced us.  I just feel like punching something. 

All it took Appling to get some confidence and get going was a three-pointer. If only GR3 could get going just as easily.

Has officially set the game of basketball back 30 years. They might as well go back to playing with peach baskets. Holy freaking god.

I know they look awful but somehow Wisconsin has a bunch of B1G wins. How is this happening?

Wisconsin is 8-35...beautiful.

I think Wisconsin is going for the fewest possessions possible in a game.  No made basket and lots and lots of rebounds.

I'm sorry.  That was funny.  Not saying I'm glad he almost got hurt.  I'm just saying it was funny.

Drink everytime Wisconsin makes a shot. You win if you get tipsy.

Wisconsin might be better off running a Four Corners offense.

Payne should have got a technical for hanging on the rim.

This is the worst basketball I have ever watched.

I fucking hate Wisconsin basketball.  I hope MSU keeps this pace up and holds them under 40 points.

Wisconsin is shooting about 5% in the 2nd half. That is not an exaggeration. Seriously not kidding

Holy shit. A WIsconsin layup. 

after he missed his dunk?

Some things to think over.  This year, Wisconsin beat OSU by 22 at home but lost to Purdue by 13 at home.  They beat us at home but lose to Virginia at home.  They lose at Iowa but they win at Indiana.  They win at Illinois but lose at Creighton by double digits. 

They're all over the place. 

Remind me again why we didnt get a home game against these clowns?  I'm sorry but the Wisconsin loss pisses me off more than the PSU loss.  

do those guys really have full ride scholarships to play basketball?

Two take aways from this game: Payne's botched dunk was the worst ever, and Bruesewitz #31 for Wiscy is the ugliest player to step foot on the court since Bobby Hurley.

MSU is shooting 36% from two, and 20% from three.... and they are up by 21 and have doubled Wiscy's point total.

It's awful to watch, they never score, they foul everyone (but never get called for it), and somehow they still win a alot.

Rooting for Wisconsin is like rooting for the Washington Generals

Wiscy's on a 3-0 run...

oh wait.  It just ended.

I don't want to jinx anything buuuut

updated seeding scenarios to focus on now

Wiscy blogs getting emo...

I'm done.
I can’t. I just want to cry and I honestly think I’m about to. This is the sorriest effort I ever remember seeing out of this team, and I just can’t do it anymore. Tomorrow is another day.

NICE hit!  Clean foul.  Nice hairdo.

Good. I hope MSU continues to run Wisconsin into the ground. I despise Bo Ran with ever fiber of my being.

Watching this shammokery of a travesty makes me wonder two things:

1. How in the hell did MSU managed to lose 7 games?

2. How in the hell did Wisconsin manage to win any?

makes UM's 0-12 not so bad.  sparty must sure defend that 3 well.

Payne just got a rebound and took two full steps before the outlet. No call.



It isn't just against us.

new rooting angle for this game:

Wiscy < 40

Did the ball get swapped for a greased pig tonight?

Everyone who is hoping Wisconsin wins is crazy. Understandable, I guess, given the emotions involved, but still wrong. According to the chart El Fuego posted above, with a Sparty win, the game Sunday determines Michigan's seed in the BTT: 

Win, and they are a 2/3 seed, and will play MSU or OSU in the semis (assuming a win Friday against a bottom-half B1G team). Either way, get a bye Thursday and looking at a pretty easy first round game (at least as easy as B1G games can be this season). Beat MSU/OSU, and M is in the final.

Lose to Indiana, and 7/8 outcomes have M playing Wisco in the 4/5 game. It would suck to be the 5 and have to play Penn State again, but oh well. Anyway, based on how well UW has played recently, I like our chances in a rematch. Which would put us in the semis against Indiana, but it's hard to beat a team 3 times in one season. 

Finally, MSU winning tonight (as I write, it's a 18 point lead with 2 min left) guarantees Indiana the 1 seed. They'll still want to win the title outright on Sunday, but with both tournament 1 seeds pretty much locked up, they might lack a little motivation. Every little bit helps.

5 star recruit Devin Booker (who is high on UM) is at this MSU game. Do you think he's sold on MSU?