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March 7th, 2013 at 8:36 PM
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Michigan State Vs. Wisconsin

Please be kind, it's my first thread. Who do we want to win this game? I will never cheer for Sparty, but if it's necessary, I guess I can hope they win the game. Honestly, I'm more concerned about the seating for the Big Ten Tournament. I think a good showing will propel us to a #1 seed

(Slight Mod Edit - the original title was causing minor confusion. LSA)

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:38 PM | Wiscy (Score:4 Normal)
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I'm rooting for Wisconsin. Don't want Sparty to have a shot at a share of the title.

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:41 PM | Yes (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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It's wisky not Bucky. Please change before the wheels come off.

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:42 PM | Oops (Score:0 Trolling)
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It's wiscy, not wisky. Shoot me.

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:44 PM | Is it though? I was just (Score:5 Normal)
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Is it though? I was just thinking of the "Teach Me How To Bucky" YouTube video. So shoot me. Nice avatar by the way.

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:54 PM | Thanks (Score:5 Normal)
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Since it appears I couldn't have screwed up much worse, I'm going to call it a night. Good night.

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:00 PM | Good call. (Score:5 Normal)
GoBlue_55
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Good call.

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:44 PM | Bucky... (Score:5 Normal)
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is the mascot's name for Wisky, no?  I think the Buckeyes have Brutus.  Or Lebron James.  not sure.

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:51 PM | Oops again (Score:-1 Redundant)
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I didn't know that. I thought he meant that Bucky=ohio, and Sparty's not playing ohio, their playing wiscy.

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:28 PM | Weird because I saw Bucky and (Score:2 Normal)
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Weird because I saw Bucky and thought of Ohio State.

/trollface

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:28 PM | I also thought he meant (Score:4 Normal)
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I also thought he meant Buckeyes.  Although I knew Wisconsin's mascot was named Bucky Badger, that's certainly not how I think of WIsconsin.  

Too many people try to be cute and make things worse.  What's so hard with saying the names of the schools?  MSU vs. Wisconsin would have been very clear.

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:41 PM | I think it's better for us if (Score:5 Normal)
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I think it's better for us if MSU wins, as UW has a tie breaker against us.  But then again, it would be nice to see MSU out of the race for a B1G title.  So really, it doesn't matter, and I'd be happy with either result.  Provided we beat IU of course.

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:47 PM | I agree. It's tough to watch (Score:2 Normal)
GoBlue_55
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I agree. It's tough to watch that game and have a rooting interest.It really doesn't matter, I guess I'm just looking forward to the postseason. The IU game will be tough. Hopefully the officiating is even for a change.

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:45 PM | Cheer for Sparty (Score:4 Normal)
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Here is why:

http://www.umhoops.com/2013/03/07/big-ten-tournament-seeding-possibilities/

Me fail English?  That's unpossible!

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:48 PM | That chart was ridiculous to (Score:5 Normal)
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That chart was ridiculous to try to read so I guess I'll take your word for it.

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:51 PM | Basically... (Score:3 Normal)
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If State wins tonight then UMich beats IU, UMich is guarunteed to be a 2 or 3 seed, which is essentially the same.  If Wisconsin wins tonight and UMich wins, there is still a chance UMich would be a 4 seed.

Me fail English?  That's unpossible!

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:59 PM | Thanks (Score:4 Normal)
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I hate games when I have to root for teams I hate but desperate times call for desperate measures.

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:30 PM | Desperate times?  I'm not (Score:2)
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Desperate times?  I'm not sure this qualifies.  Rooting for OSU the other night, yes.  For possible seeding in a tournament that while it would be nice to win, isn't the one we're really after?  I think we should save our desperate measures for more significant results.

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:41 PM | Yeah I was kind of including (Score:2)
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Yeah I was kind of including having to root for Ohio. The whole thing just makes me feel dirty. I would rather Michigan just have won the games they should have won and been in complete control and not have to depend on these other teams.

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:04 PM | Eh. Assuming they both win (Score:2)
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Eh. Assuming they both win their final game, it will still come down to us beating Indiana or be saddled with the 5th seed.

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:11 PM | Might as well go for broke, (Score:2)
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Might as well go for broke, eh?

Me fail English?  That's unpossible!

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:51 PM | Rooting hard that (Score:5 Normal)
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someone will run over Tom Izzo while he's in the middle of the floor screaming.

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:48 PM | Playing With The Table... (Score:3 Normal)
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Granted, Massey's numbers will change depending on the outcome of this game, so this reply contains a certain amount of speculation, but in fiddling with the table I posted in the BTT Scenarios thread, you would think this game something of a wash for us (based on a table of potential scenarios provided by UMHoops). Massey puts this game up as a 74% Michigan State lean right now. 

All  that would be for seeding purposes anyway - if State wins, the two most likely scenarios would have us as either a 3 or 5 seed, which oddly enough is the same result we would see if Wisconsin pulled this out. Again, the percentages will change after the game and some revision may be necessary, but given the estimates now, we seem to be closing in on the 3-5 seed range depending on everything else that goes on this weekend in the conference. 

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:54 PM | I'd rather not have MSU win the conference title (Score:4 Normal)
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even if we don't beat Indiana. So go Wisconsin...except I hate Wisconsin too. So go lose, MSU

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March 7th, 2013 at 8:58 PM | I'm rooting for the meteor. (Score:2 Normal)
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I'm rooting for the meteor. But if I had to pick a team, I'd probably pick Sparty. Don't really care for Izzo, but I feel like his team is more deserving of a title. And I respect what he's been able to do on the court over the years. When his teams have beaten us, its usually been because they were just flat out the better team that night.



I just despise Bo Ryan and everything that is Wisconsin basketball. His damn buzzer beater antics over the last few years have a lot to do with that. His teams aren't any better than ours, but they've gotten by on blind dumb luck sometimes.

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:03 PM | I want Wisconsin to win tonight (Score:4 Normal)
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and then see them lose to Penn State on Sunday. Then I want to see OSU lose to Illinois. Then when UM beats IU, UM will not have to share it with our two biggest rivals and a team that was lucky to beat our boys on a prayer of a shot (and who also did not have to come to Crisler). I also want an Oompa Loompa too.

Go Blue! Beat IU!!!

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:10 PM | I'm not rooting for either, (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm not rooting for either, so I don't get tied up in other teams' stuff so much.  I'm just rooting for us to win our game.

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:14 PM | Do I have to be kind?/sUh. (Score:1 Trolling)
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Do I have to be kind?

/s

Uh. Go meteor? I hate both of these basketball teams oh so much. Every time I see a player from an opposing team at midcourt with the ball I twitch thanks to wisconsin. 

And state is state. Who I hate. 

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:15 PM | #teamvolcanicerruptionunderne (Score:1 Normal)
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#teamvolcanicerruptionunderneathEL

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:16 PM | I think you mean seeding, not seating. (Score:3 Normal)
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Go Wisconsin. Don't want MSU to win a title.

"I hate losing more than I like winning." - Zack

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:45 PM | That's very Sparty of you. If (Score:0 Normal)
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That's very Sparty of you. It benefits Michigan if Wisconsin loses. That's all I care about.

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:49 PM | There is no need to be a (Score:5 Normal)
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There is no need to be a jerk.  I think it'd be nice for our program to finish ahead of MSU in the standings (which hasn't happened since the 1990s).  That's something that could pay off in recruiting down the road.  Meanwhile, the "benefits" of MSU winning relate only to BTT seeding.  That really doesn't matter to me.

 

 

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March 7th, 2013 at 11:26 PM | Man, I didn't realize (Score:2 Normal)
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Man, I didn't realize people's e-feelings would be so hurt - I wasn't that malicious, was I?

We always say that it is "typical Sparty" to cheer for UM to lose when UM winning benefits them.  It would be hypocritical to say that and then cheer for MSU to lose when them winning helps us.

Do you really think a 1 game difference in conference standings in a given year has any tangible effect on recruiting?  I don't, but I am open to hearing that argument.  Unless that one game difference is one team winning a title and another not, I think tournament outcomes are far more memorable for a recruit.

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:31 PM | How is a better seed in the (Score:3 Normal)
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How is a better seed in the Big Ten Tournament benefiting Michigan more than a Big Ten regular season title not shared with sparty if Michigan wins on Sunday?

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

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March 7th, 2013 at 11:29 PM | I don't know, to me a shared (Score:1)
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I don't know, to me a shared title is a shared title. From my team's perspective, I don't care who I share it with.

I'd rather get a 2/3 seed to avoid IU in the semifinals of the B10 tournament, thus giving us the best chance of racking up BTT wins and earning a #1 seed. I think that's far more important in this season where we have a legitimate chance to make a final four run.

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:19 PM | In other news, PSU is winning (Score:5 Normal)
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In other news, PSU is winning at NW.  It wouldn't hurt for them to win and ever-so-slightly remove some of the stigma from that loss.

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:32 PM | Just throwing this out there.... (Score:3 Normal)
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Something I was considering at work today....if MSU loses today and has an early loss in the Big Ten tourny, I've had to think there is a decent chance they fall to the 4 seed line in the NCCA touranment, which if I understand correctly, would make them unprotected in regards to seeding location. I'd love to not have all of those MSU fans in the stands, cheering against us while they get shipped DC or LA. Looking at our home vs. road record, the less fans cheering against us the better! Any thoughts on this?

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:40 PM | Cheers to this. (Score:1)
allintime23
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Cheers to this.

All in for some manball.

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:33 PM | I believe they'd still be at (Score:1 Normal)
OmarDontScare
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I believe they'd still be at the Palace if they were a #4.

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:35 PM | This will... (Score:1)
VAWolverine
Joined: 11/06/2008
MGoPoints: 1789

be like a backyard game- first one to fifty wins...

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March 7th, 2013 at 9:43 PM | Why does every game of (Score:3 Normal)
snarling wolverine
Joined: 12/14/2011
MGoPoints: 4834

Why does every game of interest have to start at 9:00?  It's murder on us who have to wake up early.  Grrr.

What I'm hoping for is for Wisconsin to win, but Gary Harris and Adreian Payne have big games and continue to raise their NBA stock.

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:20 PM | wiscy (Score:1)
umchicago
Joined: 02/05/2009
MGoPoints: 3540

how did we lose to them.  their offense is so pathetic.

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:26 PM | Because (Score:2)
MichiganMan2424
Joined: 03/09/2011
MGoPoints: 1035

Because at times our defense is that bad

Practice makes perfect. Unless you're the Buckeyes. Then you have to cheat.

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:44 PM | 50 missed layups by our squad (Score:3 Normal)
WolverineHistorian
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50 missed layups by our squad and a flukey halfcourt make by the bad guys. 

Go Blue!  Always!

http://www.youtube.com/user/WolverineHistorian

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:21 PM | anyone have a stream to the (Score:1)
buddhafrog
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anyone have a stream to the game (overseas so ESPN.com won't work for me).  None of the online streams are working...

Streaming UM games early Sunday morning from Korea, since 2007

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:23 PM | fyi (Score:1)
umchicago
Joined: 02/05/2009
MGoPoints: 3540

10-6 msu.  12 min left in 1H.

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:27 PM | http://atdhe.so/watch.php?id= (Score:1)
buddhafrog
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http://atdhe.so/watch.php?id=619002

for those also looking.

Streaming UM games early Sunday morning from Korea, since 2007

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:23 PM | As frustrated as I get with (Score:1)
allintime23
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As frustrated as I get with THJ and Robinson at times, it could be worse. It could be Dawson bad. Talk about disappearing.

All in for some manball.

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:25 PM | Good Lord Izzo is in rare (Score:2 Insightful)
Ty Butterfield
Joined: 09/07/2009
MGoPoints: 930

Good Lord Izzo is in rare form.

"But in the tire fire that was last year's secondary he showed a little spark." - Brian Cook

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:27 PM | love red cedar message board (Score:3 Normal)
remodelguy
Joined: 02/09/2011
MGoPoints: 13

i love going over there and followint thier gameday threads...those guys are a new breed of ignorant

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March 7th, 2013 at 10:29 PM | offensive juggernauts (Score:3 Normal)
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offensive juggernauts

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