I'm anxious to see who transfers. Yikes.
Michigan Recruiting Kalen Ballage Again
I hope Darboh isn't the career-ending injury :(
Darboh is already out of his walking boot and doing mild training iirc from one of Hoke's pressers recently. Not Darboh.
Also, I've never heard of a career-ending foot injury.
Maybe not career ending but sure as hell career altering albeit in a different sport-Bill Walton.
I was probably in middle school or so when Walton retired, so I wasn't really not familiar with his stuation. After your post I did a quick Google search and found this article, which talks about how Walton fractured his foot and instead of obtaining proper medical care he took a bunch of painkillers and played through it. That's pretty wild. Then he apparently broke his other foot riding a stationary bike!?
is an arrogant asshole.
.... enough said?
WTF zat sposed ta mean!?
Aside: I know that people here have mixed feelings about the Fab 5, but Walton's dislike of them (back in '92 or so) seemed visceral.
Very different sport - foot injuries tend to be amplified in a sport where tall people are constantly jumping up and down on a hardwood floor.
The lisfranc injury is considered so threatening to a player's career it's seldom mentioned in the press without the word "dreaded" in front of it. A couple of links:
Decent medical description here:
Huh. Okay, I stand corrected.
Turf toe and Eddie George.
Thanks for telling us! I hadn't heard anything about him lately.
Don't want to speculate but I wouldn't be surprised if a RB buried on the depth chart were to transfer. And could the injury be Drake Johnson's knee?
Wouldn't be have already had surgery on it? How would they already know he won't be back from it?
and I won't be shocked to see a couple of defense side (DB) transfers. There are some talented guys just not get playing time for various reasons but they can definitely see the field once they move to the likes of MAC schools, etc.
Please confine your comments to the recruiting news and refrain from baseless speculation about transfers.
Okay, but transfers are directly related to how many spots we have in a recruiting class. Agree that speculation about our young men should be avoided, but the apparent projection of some transfers is simply relevant news.
And it's probably unavoidable. But to the extent we can avoid, "I'm guessing Player X transfers because he can't beat out Jabrill Peppers," I think that'd be wise.
is very much in the eye of the beholder. It's inherently disrespectful to suggest kids may want to transfer because they're aren't going to play here. If a kid is doing his best fighting for playing time, you're basically suggesting he should just give up and go away. I don't believe there is a respectful way of saying that regardless of your intentions. At least not for those of us who don't see the kids in practice and in the weight room.
While the intent and purporse of your post is appreciated, the subtle jab at labor and class isn't.
I'm also not sure what that has to do with the topic or how he knows the people posting are blue colar workers?
Okay, so BiSB wanted to tell everyone on the board not to speculate about player transfers. But he didn't want to come across as though he was a self-styled authority figure laying down the law for the hoi polloi. Now, he could have written a meek post politely asking other board members to refrain from such comments, but that probably would have been ineffective. Instead he hyperbolized the speaker-to-audience relationship for mild humorous effect. This both made his words more forceful and simltaneously took the edge off of them so the words were better received (by those with any semblance of a sense of humor).
That's my take anyway.
Something that more people take as insult than joke shows either a lack of empathy or a lack of understanding of how to set up jokes.
Show of hands, then... who was offended? And who is either (a) familiar with the Safety Training episode of The Office, or (b) not offended by hyperbole?
Isn't a fan of The Office.
We should start recruiting A-Aron Balaky
Don't be redicalus, cousin Larry
Perfect Strangers reference Balki?
Fun fact: The young man who plays A-Aron was born and raised in Ann Arbor and went to HS at Pioneer.
His wiki page says he went to Shrine Catholic in Royal Oak
Not sure where on his wiki page that says it but I definitely recall going to school with him. A quick google search confirms.
He'd be okay but I'd prefer Hingle McCringleberry over A-Aron. Shame than Dan Smith is already committed to BYU.
If transfers were to happen...you would have to think RB and DB are options and I know some don't want to hear it but OL might have 1 or 2 guys who are buried who might take off as well.
Hopefully these kids stick it out and continue to be Wolverines, but some just want some PT and if they can't pass the guys in front of them then going MAC or D2 might be the easiest way.
I hope it is not a career ending injury. Sure there are injured players who would have a larger negative impact if they are unable to return to the field but it is unfair to wish it be one over any other. I hope they are all able to recover fully.
Commence speculation on the two players transferring and the season ending injury starting...........now.
could have been avoided if not for idle time during a bye week.
Is WTKA playing another rebroadcast of a Ufer game today? Need my "fix" of Michigan Football, I hate bye weeks!
to the above question I posed regarding a Ufer rebroadcast: yes, it's on, and it's the 1979 Michigan at Staee game. Kickoff just minutes away, tune in on WTKA.com or go to the iHeart app.
Well you never like to lose anyone off your roster, whether it's just natural attrition like this, career-ending injuries, or anything like that. But I certainly can't blame a kid that leaves because he wants to play and he's just not getting to.
I hope people don't start commencing on the transfers. Remember, that kind of speculation using player names isn't acceptable on here.
Because Erick Smith and Marshon Lattimore are silent commits. Obvs
Edit: Re: Montae Nicholson comment down below
Why wouldn't they start recruiting Montae Nicholson again, though?
Hand, McDowell, Ballage, and then if anything the two guys from Ohio, Smith and Lattimore. I think they prefer the two Ohio guys to Nicholson, that's besides the point that right now they're only looking to pick up Hand, McDowell, and Ballage.
and he wasn't interested, would we know? If Ballage wanted to commit today, would they accept it? I don't think we know that either.
In this age of social media, we would know if they were recruiting him again. Montae went on 4 officials already - Msu, fsu, Pitt, Oregon. He is scheduled to be back at Msu next week. We need to Stop that and make his last official the osu game.
With Borges basically refusing to rotate anyone other than Derrick Green for a handful of carriers, I wouldn't be surprised to see attrition. Our RB game is not acceptable and his unwillingness to give others opportunities has got to be frustrating to those on the depth chart. Mike Cox is an excellent example, he got limited PT and was productive when he got opportunities and is now in the NFL. I don't dig this one back approach.
Thing is though, Toussaint graduates after this season and then competition for tailback carries will be wide open. As of now we have no RBs in the 2014 class, so the non-seniors on the roster all have to like their chances of earning PT.
I'll say this, right now the depth chart for next year is projected to be Green, Smith, then Drake if he comes back healthy. And now the staff is looking to bring in Ballage. So it may not be as wide open as you think. I won't speculate who might be transferring but there's a reason they want Ballage.
Who is Mike Jones?
as to why the recruiting of Ballage has been re-opened by the Michigan staff. Maybe, just maybe, they've seen some things from Ballage in his game tapes or in person that shows he's taken his game to an even higher level.
Maybe Thomas Rawls is the transfer candidate? I don't see him getting many carries at all next year.
The reporters don't ask THESE questions so people aren't speculating on who may be injured for his career.
Not suggesting that asking Hoke if someone has a career ending injury...but just periodic status updates. How's Johnson's progress? How's Pipkins doing? Hell...anyone heard anything on Russell Bellomy in the past 4-5 months?
It seems like Jake Ryan was the only guy they ever asked about.
My guess is that reporters don't want to run into that particular 9=man box over and over. These coaches just don't get into any specifics on injuries.
I forget who said it a few weeks back, but the degrees of injury at Michigan these days seem to be "booboo, booboo, booboo, death"
...but even if Hoke says "Drake's making progress...we're looking forward to having him back next year" you can deduce that he doesn't have a career-ending injury.
At the same time, Hoke really didn't say anything that gives too much info.
Doesn't really say anything about anything. Which is good and bad IMO. At least he isn't singing josh groben.
Still pining over Montae Nicholson
If we have additional scholarships - then we need to go back after Nicholson
Drake Johnson. I think this guy was going to be a pleasant surprise. What he did in HS was impressive...not just FB but the track records. A diamond in the rough.
Nothing against these kids because I'm sure they are great guys, work hard, and have given UM their best. But, as a fan I wouldn't be upset if Johnson or Rawls transferred because Smith and Green fill the same role of larger backs and are younger and more talented. I hope it's not Hayes because I still think he has value, but with Norfleet he may never get snaps so I wouldn't hold it against him if he left. If any of them transfer however I wish them the best and thank them for their service. But, I think some transfers is a part of improving our roster.
As a plumber with an emergency line, though...
But based off of just pure depth, transfers are likely to occur at RB or at OL, IMHO. I was thinking this at the beginning of the year, and the rumors do not surprise me.
possible oline transfers could also be due to the coach and musical chairs on the line. Guys may not feel like they are getting enough of a chance. it's unusual to rotate linemen like we have been doing.
Players are getting a chance but how much of real chance could be debated. Byrant played good against Minnesota not so well against PSU and got benched after two starts. When players are on that short of a leash, that does harm to their confidence? My point is, hs coaches and families when they send their child/player to a school, they want them to get fair shot to play and it the perception is they are not getting that fair shot, it could cause them to start seeking out other opportunities.
All these based on numbers transfer stuff is funny. There's not strong numbers at any position right now. Still building them up.
chris fox maybe? he had a torn acl and havent heard anything since
Hes a true freshman he was going to redshirt
Transfers happen everywhere, and most are win-win. A player who isn't going to crack the depth chart or doesn't fit in socially finds playing time and the school gets another scholly.
I hope its not Pipkens, not that I want others to plagued.
That's immediately what I thought too.
I hate it when people post rumors like this. The only thing it can possibly lead to is everyone else filling in and making up whatever details you can't reveal...If you can't or won't reveal the details of a story like this, just go ahead and not post it. (speaking specifcically to the transfer rumors bit, not the "UM is recruiting Kalen Ballage" part)
I choose not to reveal any names, but you can continue telling me what I can and can't do. The thing, I'll continue doing whatever I feel like. I posted the bit about players transferring because otherwise people would be in an uproar about why we were back to recruiting Ballage with only 2 spots and an assumption that we get both Hand and McDowell. So without me telling you about transfer candidates, this is how the thread would have went.
1) Devin is now leaving early after his awesome performance. PANIC.
2) Hand decided on someone other than Michigan. PANIC.
3) McDowell has chosen OSU or Notre Dame. PANIC.
4) Insert player here is leaving.
So instead of people listing all of these reasons, which would have happened had I left out the transfer part, I included the transfer part. That way everyone knows that Michigan is still just as likely to get McDowell and Hand, there's just another spot(or 2) that might be opening up.
The last time we were recruiting Ballage. Seems to have very nice physical tools, hey...get him down here in the thicker air and see what he can do with those high altitude lungs 8-)
I don't follow this too closely but I don't remember a him ever losing interest. This seems like appropriate bye week activity.
This guy can play either offense or defense.
I think the assumption was that we didn't have enough room. But his recruitment has been fairly quiet as far as I know. I agree, I want this kid. He has elite size and speed.
Let's be honest - there aren't many guys on offense who aren't playing. If you're not a freshman, you're pretty much getting some significant playing time. The only exception, really, is at the running back position.