Do you think that any of the current QBs (Tate, Denard, Devin) at Michigan have any chance of being Pat White like.
Confusing question. Do you mean speed-wise? Accuracy? Undersized? You might wanna clarify
I meant be the dual threat and help lead us a BCS bowl win
Well if the answer is no, then I think we have a problem.
In that case, yes. Tate, Denard, and Devin all have enormous potential. While I think that Denard's potential will be realized either at another position or as a hybrid all around athlete, I think that both Devin and Tate by their junior/senior years could be among the best quarterbacks in the country (depending on who wins the job this year, next year, etc.)
I'd have to go with DG. He has all the physical tools to be an all time great but it all depends on his development. In the quick clips that have been provided thus far his motion looks to be a lot better than I had previously hoped.
Refer to Ezeh-E's "Favorite Moments of the RR Era" number 5..
Take a second...
Shouldn't you be in school?
its spring break out here (Oregon).
Who is this Pat White you speak of?
He was a two-star.
Doesn't Rich Rod know he isn't in the Big East....oh wait
Did he have stumpy legs?
How about dreadlocks ? .. did he have dreadlocks ?
Well Lil Man that is a big question, I will have a better answer in 4 years or so, but yes I think it can be very easily done. RR just needs to find the right one.
You should get together with Brice over at his blog and turn Michigan football coverage on its head. I will be pondering this one all day:)
that gets drafted by the Dolphins? We already have an M QB in Miami that I hope has a real solid year next season.
the OP refers to the exciting dual-threat QB who can put his team on his back and carry it almost to the BCS Championship. You know, the guy ESPN analysts fawn over all season long, then rip when he's banged-up at the end of the season.
I think you meant to ask which qb is going to move to a different position? Can we have Tate, Denard and Devin all on the field at the same time? Is Tate going to transfer? Do mobile qb's get hurt more? Did you see that McGuffie hurdled a bitch? Why does Rich Rod have to curse so much, it hurts my virgin ears.
And the off season drags on...
earmuffs, Lil Man.
prove it, I watched the practice video in its entirety and heard nary a cuss word.
and he said so.
it would have been David Cone. If he can't make it as a dual-threat QB in this offense, who can?
Cone throws rhymes not dimes
Tate will be "the next Drew Brees"
Denard will be "the next Percy Harvin"
Gardner will be "the next Vince Young" but a lot smarter.
Therefore, we don't need "the next Pat White."
We really need a new BG, or the next best thing, if they broke the mold after they made BG.
next BG? youve got a grizzly bear by the name of ROH. he should suffice
The question was:
Do you think any of our QB's have the potential to be very, very good?
Yes. Yes I do.
First I'll have to go to an online dictionary and look up patwhitelike. Sounds Native American.
They have wings they will be better.
Speed? = check
Arm Strength = Better, check
Dreadlocks? = bonus
all have a chance to be "Pat White" like. It all depends on who just steps up the most come fall- and more importantly- who excels on the field come September.
None of them will put up his career numbers, and may finish their careers considered less of a playmaker and more of a distributor (probably with the exception of shoelace), but I'm not sure that ALL of them don't have more individual talent at the quarterback position.
I'd honestly say that Tate Forcier is a superior passer when compared to White, and probably just as smart or more so. Forcier's athleticism is better than he gets credit for, and even if Pat White is considered better when it's all said and done at the college level, Tate Forcier produces/runs a better offense better at the same level independent of having a running back like Slaton (see first 3 1/2 quarters vs. OSU).
Gardner may have the most NFL potential because he is so big and strong, and Denard isn't completely out of this race just yet. If he can develop as a quarterback to the degree White did, and was playing in the Big East...people might call Pat White the poor man's Denard Robinson. All in all, I definitely expect our QBS to be better and the offense to be more dynamic. If all three of our QBS are still on the roster in 12 months, we will be extremely lucky!
Over on Scout, King Beaver says there is a bit of a difference of opinion on exactly what type of offense will be run.
First, he says Rodriguez wants more passing. That definitively says, "Not Pat White."
Second, he says Calvin Magee wants a run-first offense. That definitively says, "Yes Pat White."
I don't think Tate Forcier is going to be any semblance of Pat White, so if he wins the job and wins it convincingly--not Pat White.
Now, interestingly, behind the Evil Paywall of a certain site that rhymes with "Bout," King Beaver is hinting that right now, Denard is mui impressivo and the competition is pretty dang-darn even. Hmmmmmm Word is that Denard lookin' good with passing!
And the word (from King Beaver) continues to be that Gardner looks much better mechanically (Throwing motion. Not sure how he does fixing '99 Fords) and definitely will be "special."
I'm not so sure Denard Robinson ends up at another position (and definitely not this year--I think they'll try to keep the redshirt on Gardner--I would, and I'm not even the coach!)
What that means is--if Robinson shows he can do it and do it well--he's a QB for four years and UM is gonna have to go with the dreaded Two Quarterback System--and in this case--it's so crazy it just might work!
Because I had read that thusfar Tate was quite obviously head and shoulders up on the others in the passing game, and baring major disaster, Tate was looking like the No 1.
Since there have only been three practices, I find it unlikely anyone could've made that much of a move.
King Beaver had it in a very recent bloggie.
I'll tell ya one more thing in Robinson's favor: King beaver said Robinson has a very even temperment--which helps when snaps go sailing 60 feet over his head.
Oh, we'd better hope Molk stays healthy this year.
So... at some point between Spring Practices 1 and 3, the entire dynamic has changed? Things DO move fast.
Now this is an interesting and constructive post. How about a little more of this and a little less of the snarky asshole stuff?
As Tommy Hearns said bout promoting his bouts, "hyke hyke hyke". KB, not to be confused with TKOB, is trying to sell sell sell.
I get an MGoBoner every time i see that.
Tate Forcier = Steve Young
accurate throwers with deceptive speed
Denard Robinson = Michael Vick (in college)
uberfast with rocket arms
Devin Gardner = Vince Young
excellent athletes that can also dominate in the passing game
I doubt anyone is "head and shoulders above the rest" after three spring practices. Perhaps we should wait a bit before naming surefire starters.
I trust game situations more than pad-free practice results, but that's just me.
I saw the video, Devin is clearly head and shoulders above Tate and Denard.
I was actually wondering if any of our RBs can be Steve Slaton like....
I sometimes find myself thinking about how good the offense was at WVU and thinking of how our players would fit in it. In the end I think RichRod will create one of the most dangerous offenses in college football history.
I suppose if Devin is the better QB this spring and through summer camp, I would throw him in the mix at QB this season. If Tate shows that he is the starter of this team by the end of summer camp, then I would red shirt Devin and groom him for taking over the team in 2013. DROB will have that dangerous speed and if he develops any kind of passing game he will provide fits for opposing defenses! I would like to see DROB develop into that super backfield player who would be a threat running, throwing and catching the football.
I think we all agree that Denard has to be on the field one way or another this season. I love Tate, but I am having an extremely difficult time believing that he is up to 194 lbs. Seriously, does anyone believe that?? He looked like he was maybe 155 last year soaking wet. Also, the way he holds the ball around the pocket, or when he's running, caused me to pull out all of my hair and left me with 4-5 remote control sized holes in my walls. I just question whether or not he'll be able to make it through an entire season physically. With a full off-season under his belt, is it totally out of the question that Denard could reach out and take this job?
I think you're not very good at gauging weights on the teevee.
since I saw someone write it as "teevee".
I also think you're right. Tate is small for a QB. He's not 5'3" with little girl arms. He's about 6' and muscular. Nearly 200 sounds about right.