Michigan Pro Day Numbers
Magnus is compiling results from Michigan's Pro Day over at TTB
http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2013/03/michigan-pro-day-results.html
BWC apparently put up 35 reps on the bench. I can't believe he wasn't invited to the combine.
Just glanced over at some of the numbers at the news site that shall not be named. Kovacs with a 35" vertical and BWC with 35 reps both stand out big time. It looks like BWC might make himself some money if he puts up some good numbers in the agility drills.
So, as it turns out, Kovacs was a good football player in part BECAUSE he is a good athlete and not necessarily in spite of the fact that he isn't. I know that 4,58 isn't a blazing time, but it is definately not bad. His shuttle time is above average for his position and he jumped higher and farther than roundtree. I am starting to see that kid as having a really nice pro career.
T6/17 for safetys that ran at the NFL Combine.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/2/26/4033432/nfl-combine-re…
Doesn't it seem though that Pro Day stats are always better than NFL combine stats?
The timers aren't the same, so the numbers that come out of there are a little more slanted toward the "home team" at a pro day. Scouts usually add a smidgen of time to a guy's times at a pro day.
The info is appreciated, but why does it always look like you have people plug you in on purpose, then within minutes you come lurking? You come off a little thirsty for attention.
And lurks on mgoblog
So you're saying that Magnus has specifically arranged for Still in AA to "plug" his site, so that he can then respond to a question here on MGoBlog.
Jesus Christ.
Who the F cares?
March 14th, 2013 at 10:31 PM ^
Somehow true? That might be one of the easiest things to do considering there's no IP tracking on this site. In fact RDT and Wolervineinabag (See: the same person) did just that, going as far as interviewing himself. I'm not saying Magnus has done this for half a decade, but I am saying this has definitely been done before.
I agree that it's possible, but I'd like to think that I've been around for people to realize that I wouldn't do something like that. Regardless, I post links to my site when there's relevant information that is board-worthy, so if I intended to post a link to any of my blog posts, I would just do it myself - and there's plenty of evidence of that.
it's on the internet..... do you really know that he is a coach? Just because he says so has to be the truth? I know, trolling....
from a couch on the sidelines......
I don't know the dude but I do enjoy his site. I also like it when he posts here because Brandon Graham is a very handsome man.
When I notice an uptick in traffic to my website from a certain place (for example, this thread), it's pretty easy to click on the link and find out why it's being linked. If you think that means I'm thirsty for attention, that's your prerogative.
Magnus give a lot of good info. Why are you on here with a -215? Just to talk crap?
I've always thought that Kovacs was blindly given the presumptuous white dude labels. I've always contended that he's a good athlete. Maybe not "elite" but unquestionably better than many would give him credit for. Maybe I'm simple, but I figure you don't start 4 straight years at a B1G school without being a good athlete (even though two of those years featured some of the worst defenses EVER). One thing I always noticed was his closing speed. Dude was pretty much a heat-seeking missile on blitzes and run support.
I'd love to see him playing at the next level. Feel good story feels good.
Like you said, he's not an elite athlete. He's not a bad athlete, either, but I think you'll struggle to find particularly athletic plays he made throughout his career. For example, what leaping catches or pass breakups did he make? When did he chase someone down from behind? He's a good athlete who was a very fundamental football player, but if he had run these drills at the Combine, the times probably would have been a little slower.
It is amazing what great athletes these guys are. They get labeled as not so good athletes when compared to other guys but in reality all these guys are freaks compared to regular people. Kovacs numbers are astounding for someone who is tagged a limited athletically.
I wish I could jump 3 feet straight up in the air. Division 1 athletes are ridiculous.
and unathletic white guy dreams everywhere were crushed
Let me be the 1st to put the obligatory post up linking Kovacs to the Lions. I actually think it's a good fir, but we all know any Michigan player is supposed to be a good move.
but I also think that Kovacs would be good fir the Lions. They need smart players in the defensive backfield, something they don't get a lot of.
You can take that farther. The Lions need safties, special teams players, and players who won't make headlines for all the wrong reasons. Kovacs has the hat trick.
As I was talking to my buddy something dawned on me. He's probably just a 7th rd free agent type, but isn't Kovacs the perfect special teams player? Fast enough, smart and can tackle anything in an open field. Lions don't need that though.
We definitely need tacklers.
I see Kovacs as a bit more stout, like a good oak.
Kovacs put up a 4.58? WOW! That is blazing for a safety. Impressive.
Not really "blazing." It would have put him at 10th among safeties if he were at the NFL Combine.
NFL.com says differently:
http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#year=2013&workout=FORTY_YARD_…
If those numbers for Kovacs are considered legit, I can't believe he wouldn't be drafted. His instincts aside, those are fantastic numbers, easily worth a late round pick. You could do much worse than get a high-character, never say die special team's ace in the 7th round, and those numbers say capable backup at the very least.
On other notes, was Denard on display at the Pro day? And is there any knowledge of what teams are actually there?
Campbell's 35 would have tied him for 2nd amongst DL at the combine, and some of those guys basically only bench press and struggled through other drills.
Kovacs putting up some good times. Again, I don't see him getting drafted, but he's a guy who made plays for years against good players in a top conference. He won't be afraid of matching up with guys in the pros, and I could see him carving out a nice little career in the NFL for at least a year or two.
I don't think Campbell's size and strength were ever in question. It's always been: does he have the technique to use them? I wish all the best for Big Will, I just hate to think he waited a year too long to "get serious". What could have been...
BWC's 35 wouldve placed him 3rd, behind Margus Hunt (38), Brandon Williams (38), and Akeem Spence (37).
That would actually be fourth.
And anyway, there were three guys who put up 36 reps - Bohanon, Herman, and Washington.
So Campbell would have been #7 in the bench press.
EDIT: Never mind. I see you were talking about DL only. Campbell would have been #3 on the DL, but he would be #7 overall.
We all knew he was great, but we won't truly realize how great he was until we're watching the team play without him.
Are you getting updates from Singletary or merely posting what Michigan football is posting all day on Twitter ?
As to Kovac's speed - 4.5 to 4.6 for a safety with good instincts is fine. So much confusingly placed on a tenth of a second in football times. Safeties start down field and usually come up on players running or in routes. A moment of hesitation or not reading a coverage can easily make a "burner" 4.3 guy in perfect situations a 4.6 guy or worse. His speed and measurables physically are good enough. Good open field and all around tackler, certainly has the determination and perserverance you would look for, has the inteligence, and has a good resume. Will be a great later round "get" for a team and with a little luck can have a good multi-year career.
He was planning to do some of the drills he couldn't at the combine (e.g. bench and some throwing).
According to Twitter, Denard took reps at wideout, kick / punt return and even some at running back. Supposedly, he did not throw at all (even though he said he wanted to / was going to).
Someone also said he did not drop any passes or kicks / punts.
From the mgoblue.com press release: Robinson's Pro Day consisted of positional drills, and he looked impressive, not dropping a ball while receiving punts and passes.