Michigan playing duke in the Big ten?/acc challenge

Submitted by bouje13 on
At Cameron.

Thoughts?

Steves_Wolverines

May 8th, 2013 at 12:20 PM ^

@ Duke

vs Arizona in Ann Arbor

vs Stanford in Brooklyn

@ Iowa State

vs. potentially Florida State, Georgetown, Kansas State, and VCU in Puerto Rico

 

What a non-conference schedule.

Go Blue!

superstringer

May 8th, 2013 at 12:21 PM ^

Are we the #1 seed of the B1G then?  I'm surprised, with Sparty and Ohio returning what they return.  I'd have thought we'd be #3.  Or, does that imply Duke is #3 of the ACC?  Who would be the top two?  I thought Miami is losing some key seniors; is UNC or NC State that close to leap-frogging the Dookies?  Or did Duke just lose a lot this offseason, like we did?

Steves_Wolverines

May 8th, 2013 at 12:27 PM ^

But I know Indiana is playing Syracuse, and we are getting Duke.

Remaining powers from each conference:
 

Big-10: Ohio State and Michigan State

ACC: North Carolina and NC State. Miami will be down. Virginia may be on the rise. 

My guess would be MSU gets UNC and OSU gets NC St. 

Steves_Wolverines

May 8th, 2013 at 12:35 PM ^

I'm surprised by that. I expected UNC vs MSU. 

But how do they justify giving Northwestern vs NC St? That is crazy in my opinion. Also, a rematch with Wisconsin and Virginia? Really? That is surprising. 

OSU should destroy whoever they get with the remaining ACC teams available. 

I'm still stunned that Northwestern got NC St. Why didn't Iowa get them? Iowa is going to be very good next year. 

DingoBlue

May 8th, 2013 at 12:31 PM ^

In my opinion, in rough order of priority for scheduling

1.  Location of play for last year's challenge (home or away).  They alternate this for all teams if they can.

2.  Who have you played recently in the challenge?  They try not to do repeats (i.e. chances of a Michigan-NC St rematch are next to zero).

3.  How are you perceived in approximate relative seeding in your conference?  They try to just generally get the top-tier teams to play each other, not necessarily the #1 B1G vs. #1 ACC.

Leaders And Best

May 8th, 2013 at 12:36 PM ^

Home/away rotation needs to matchup, and I think they try to vary matchups. I think Michigan and UNC were both scheduled to go on the road this year, and Sparty and Duke were both scheduled to have home games this year. Ohio State and Duke have played each other the last 2 years so I think it was unlikely they would get paired up again.

gwkrlghl

May 8th, 2013 at 12:31 PM ^

Freshman PG in Cameron? Seems like a recipe for a loss. Should be a great chance to get more tournament atmosphere experience though

gwkrlghl

May 8th, 2013 at 4:54 PM ^

Albrecht going NBA Jam on a neutral court by getting blazing hot from three for 10 minutes in no way indicates that he'll do anything comparable at Cameron, one of the most insane home court/field advantages in all of sports

We might be fine. But Spike scoring 17 points in the championship game is barely applicable

M-Wolverine

May 8th, 2013 at 12:35 PM ^

Is him and K pussing out and ending the Duke-Michigan series. Coming to a school that lives off its Bo-Woody student-mentor battles, it didn't bode well.

Sure more times than not it didn't end well for us, but it was annually one of the big OOC games (across the country) you could count on. I wish we could get that going again. So while I'm not wild about going down to Cameron, its always fun to play Duke.

Tater

May 8th, 2013 at 2:38 PM ^

Michigan's ten to fifteen year purgatory came during Duke's peak period, and resulted in a lot of losses for the Wolverines.  At that point, it made perfect sense to end the series.  Now that MIchigan is "back," it makes perfect sense to rekindle the rivlary: as long as the refs allow both teams to play "Duke defense."

JimBobTressel

May 8th, 2013 at 12:43 PM ^

My brother is a Duke alum, let me see if I can spend a weekend at his in Charlotte, and we could go together

Leaders And Best

May 8th, 2013 at 1:09 PM ^

We have had a pretty even split of home/away:

2012: NC State (home)

2011: Virginia (road)

2010: Clemson (road)

2009: Boston College (home)

2008: Maryland (road)

2007: Boston College (home)

2006: NC State (road)

2005: Miami (FL) (home)

2004: Georgia Tech (road)

2003 NC State (home)

2001 & 2002: did not play

2000: Wake Forest (home)

1999: Georgia Tech (road)

Leaders And Best

May 8th, 2013 at 1:22 PM ^

But you have to eventually play back to back home or away games to alter the playing matchups. To do that you will have 4 year periods like this--there is no other way around it. The point I was making was that Michigan is still even over the lifetime of the Challenge even with this (Michigan played 3 of 4 at home from 2000-2005).

dahblue

May 8th, 2013 at 1:55 PM ^

Oh wait...There is an easy way around it...facts!!!

This is Duke's second home game in a row and will be their 3rd home game in their last 4 (whereas 3/4 on the road for us).  If we played in A2, it'd be our second home game in a row, but only our 2nd in the last 4.  No easier way to even things out (perfectly, actually) then for us to get this game at home.  Of course, it's Duke...so we get the short end.  

Leaders And Best

May 8th, 2013 at 2:22 PM ^

Every team has to go through it at some point, and it all evens out in the end. Michigan just completed their FIRST set of back to back road games in the Challenge last year. We will probably be up next for home games when time comes for our next set of back to back games.

SDCran

May 8th, 2013 at 12:56 PM ^

Without switching years of your home and away, you are limited to the same half of the other conference. The top of that half will continue to play each other, see MSU vs UNC

mGrowOld

May 8th, 2013 at 12:58 PM ^

I think we have one home game cause the B1G knows we dont bitch about such things so they capitulate to the schools that do.  It's like that, IMO, for a lot of stuff where we seemingly get the short end of the stick compared to other B1G schools.  I wish our Athletic Department sometimes didn't "play nice" for the greater good of the conference and instead said HELL NO - we are playing at home and you're going to put another luminary school on the road instead.

triangle_M

May 8th, 2013 at 1:26 PM ^

Michigan fans/alumni will buy every available ticket on the east coast, thus, we are very attractive to the ACC as a home team.  Its not like Duke has to worry about that at Cameron - because its going to sell out anyway - but I went to the Indiana/NC State game last year and half the joint was empty.    Michigan travels / represents well and everyone knows it.  Its a great chance for east coast alumni to get to a game without having to trek to Ann Arbor.  I love it, I'm going to be there.

LSAClassOf2000

May 8th, 2013 at 2:13 PM ^

Over at Hammer And Rails, they are keeping the reporting of the pairings reasonably up to date (LINK). It looks like Iowa gets Notre Dame and Purdue gets Boston College. As of now, that leaves Nebraska, Minnesota, Penn State and Illinois on the board, I think. for the Big Ten. 

EDIT: Here's the schedule, per Purdue's site:

Tuesday, Dec. 3

Florida State at Minnesota

Illinois at Georgia Tech

Indiana at Syracuse

Michigan at Duke

Notre Dame at Iowa

Penn State at Pittsburgh

Wednesday, Dec. 4

Boston College at Purdue

Maryland at Ohio State

Miami, FL at Nebraska

North Carolina at Michigan State

Northwestern at North Carolina State

Wisconsin at Virginia

Steves_Wolverines

May 8th, 2013 at 2:32 PM ^

 

Tuesday, Dec. 3

Florida State at Minnesota

Illinois at Georgia Tech

Indiana at Syracuse

Michigan at Duke

Notre Dame at Iowa

Penn State at Pittsburgh

Wednesday, Dec. 4

Boston College at Purdue

Maryland at Ohio State

Miami, FL at Nebraska

North Carolina at Michigan State

Northwestern at North Carolina State

Wisconsin at Virginia

 

Big Ten wins, 7-5

goblue16

May 8th, 2013 at 2:44 PM ^

Excellent i actually was hoping for Notre Dame but the Duke-Michigan rivalry has become good recently. Should be a great game and an excellent slate for the nonconference schedule. Just hope the rest are cupcakes though cause its probably the toughest schedule in the country