In the linked article Pete Fiutak picks Michigan to play LSU in the 2012 National Championship. He also picks Denard to win the Heisman. Here is the article. Read, enjoy, discuss.
Michigan Picked for 2012 Nat'l Championship on CFN
Oh no! That's too high! We're just not there yet! Oh no!
Our schedule is way too hard. If we had this years schedule next year I'd be on board.
I'm sorry..... but how the hell is this flamebait? I stated that our schedule is way too hard to make a nat'l championship run. Which is exactly what everyone else has said?
I just clicked to moderate this post as underrated. Yet for some reason it showed up as flamebait. The only thing I can think if is that site gaffe? I think your criticism is very legit.
Is the toughest game and they lose a lot of talent. Ohio will be the next toughest game as they're returning everyone on defense but lose their top 2 offensive threats. Besides that, it's not extremely bad. ND is getting way more credit than they deserve. ND loses their top offensive threat, maybe even their top 2 offensive threats, 2-3 starting OL, all of the starting secondary, have quarterback issues, and a coach on his last legs. Not to mention, 3 straight. Granted, we do have a very big question on the D line but thankfully our defensive staff's specialty is D line. We have a very good chance of being very good next year.
With respect to ND, UM has beaten them with late-game heroics the last three years despite ND typically playing better throughout the game. That streak won't continue forever - at some point UM will lose one of those games. Next year, with Alabama to start the season (and that will still be a VERY loaded Tide squad given the amount of over-recruiting they do) and then ND as well in the OOC, I'd be happy with a 3-1 record. Then the Big 1G will have UM going to Lincoln, going to Ohio, and still having to finally beat Sparty. Yes, it is set up for UM to have a good shot at another BCS bowl game, but to expect them to go get through that slate with 0 or 1 loss is pretty crazy to me.
Next year our toughest opponents lose a ton of key players. Nebraska loses Jared Crick, Lavonte David, and Alphonzo Dennard on Defense to begin, and both starting tackles and center on offense in front of struggling qb issues. Sparty will be playing with a completely new offense next year as well. Cousins is gone, and every receiving target of his too. WR's Cunningham, Nichol, and Martin are gone as well as TEs Linthicum and Celek. Its not certain yet if RB Baker and stud DT Worthy will go to the draft as well. Alabama is the real test but they lose a ton of talent again this year. 3 starting receivers, the TE, Richardson likely, both Tackles and Center likely, BOTH NGs (next years starter and backup will have essentially zero game experience) all 3 starting LBs, and both starting CB's, SS, and FS. All of their offensive playmakers, and the entire starting defense minus the DE's and the "jack"-back. We can barely even scout Bama because next years team will be a completely different team. Alabama and The Game in Columbus will be the biggest challenges to an undefeated season next year.
also, if you read the article, he's not even claiming that we'll go undefeated; he has us losing to bama, but close enough that it won't hurt in the long run.
Jared Crick was out for the game this year, so although it's good he's gone, it's not like we had to face him this year. Also, Alabam's best Tackle, Barret Jones who won the Outland Trophy, is returning.
Just after a quick look at Alabam's depth chart on Rivals which was last updated in October, so it may not be too accurate, not everything you said is true. They have one starting tackle as a true sophomore so he can't leave, and the other is Jones who is coming back. The center is a senior, so he's gone, and one guard is a junior so he could leave. The defense seems accuarte though.
And I think they will, can figure it out, then we will be in the hunt. Unless 2007 happens. Oh god...the memories....
It's 2012. Think positive.
I signed up for 2008. Whoopsie. I hope I like shock.
To be fair, UM also loses it's AA Center and All Big-10 linemen in RVB and Martin.
Yeah, the rest of the teams on the schedule lose lots of talent as well, but next year is going to be as much a transition for UM as everybody else.
One thing's certain - UM will deserve it should it run the table with that murderous 2012 schedule,
Fo sho if we beat Bama we are winning a Nat Champ.
So I should buy my tickets now?
Considering it's a Fiutak article, I won't even bother clicking the link. And I really don't think this team will go either undefeated or have only 1 loss next season. Unless every team that can go pro does so from Alabama, I really don't feel very confident in that game. Then Michigan plays OSU, Neb, ND all on the road. Plus, sadly MSU has had this teams number the last 2 games. Unfortunately, I think 10-2 is the ceiling next year. The team may return a lot of starters next year, but the loss of a 4 year starting center and a 4 year starting DT are really going to hurt this team next year.
I really like the fact that we're even getting the attention. Being in the "hunt" at the beginning of the season is great for the image and reputation of the program.
Ooh look at the shiny offensive weapons! What's that? Defensive line? Psh.
The fact that he doesn't realize OSU can't play in the CCG makes it all invalid.
Edit: I read this earlier before he changed it to Wisconsin.
Have they seen our schedule for next year? It would be a great to finish with 10 wins in the regular season.
EDIT: He did, but my favorite part was:
The big controversy will be whether or not Alabama should get yet another rematch, or if a Michigan team that already lost to the Tide should play for it all. This time around, the pollsters will give the nod to the Maize and Blue, who’ll move up to the No. 2 spot after the Tide loss to the Tigers.
No way we'd get in, in that scenario.
EDIT EDIT: How is this flame bait?
That was my favourite part.
AH!! A Canadian!
the same number of players on its all-conference team as they gave Michigan: 1.
I remember being ranked #5 in 2007. And I also remember that OU and FSU were going to play in this year's championship game.
I love preseason rankings and predictions. I just like them much better when UM is supposed to compete for the big 10 and sits at about #10
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say right now that sparty's party will not continue in AA next year. And in my dreams, with a good showing in the next 2 games, Michigan IS in the MNC conversation. But I also believe in things unseen, most notably the angry Michigan ____ hating god. He will seek his vengeance when least opportune for the mighty, yet vulnerable wolverines.
At least that's where I'm at now. But hell, in August I had Michigan pegged for 8 wins and was pleasantly surprised. Here's for 10 next year with 2 or 3 bonus wins like this season.
...about the MNC...
I would really just hope that, looking at our schedule, we have a repeat 10-2 performance if we stay relatively injury-free and can just keeping playing like we did in,say, the Illinois and Nebraska games. That being said, I think 9-3 is a realistic way-too-early prediction. We'll need a lot of people to step up to do this though - we're losing some vital pieces as of Tuesday end of game.
I love the attention though - it is definitely a sign that we're getting looked at seriously again.
The worst thing about being a Michigan fan is all of the whiny ass, wet blanket Michigan fans. Same guys saying we'd be lucky to go 7-5 this year I'm sure.
I strongly believe that they will have a great year next year, but I sure the hell haven't swallowed
the pill about them winning a national championship yet. There are just too many question marks about the defensive line and that schedule...alabama, notre dame, nebraska, and ohio state all away. It's just hard to think that they would go through that schedule and not stumble at least once.
In my view CFB predictions hold as much weight as two dimensional objects. As a "fan" I prefer to daydream about the best possible outcome. Rather than trying to look smart when really just throwing darts anyway.
All of the "pragmatists" swore it wasn't possible to have better than a top 60~ defense this year... "And we'll be lucky to get that". I seem to be wrong just as often (no more or less) while being a "homer".
There's a reason there's a "fiutakin' it" tag on this here blog. The man's a moron
the "lolcfn" tag.
I just don't see it. Don't get me wrong; I think every game is winnable (even 'Bama), but we'll still be in a state of transition and the schedule is too murderous to expect us to win every winnable game. I agree with BRCE that an equivalent record next year would be a step forward. Give Hoke 3-4 years and he'll have us in the national hunt.
On the other hand, every other top program in the B1G might have serious issues. Ohio State is under a postseason ban, Penn State is a tire fire, Wisconsin won't have a passing game, Michigan State loses a ton of talent. Nebraska returns a lot of starters, but I'm not convinced they have a coach who can take them to the next level. The B1G should be ripe for the taking.
while i do think the B1G is getting much better from top to bottom, i can see mich and ohio returning the conference to the big 2 little 8 mindset. its like the current sec. most everyone in it is good to very good, but its clear that lsu and bama are the cream of the crop.
not saying we're anywhere close to the level of the sec, but as good as many of those teams are, lsu and alabama are the clear cut best, and i think michigan and ohio will return the conference to that mindset.
if we can knock off alabama next year, we deserve to be in the natl champ conversation. otherwise i dont think were ready yet. we're going to be very young/inexperienced in the front 4 next year since rohs our only returning starter.
if denard continues his progression i see him getting invited to the heisman ceremony, but losing probably to barkley.
This year he had 18 passing tds and 16 rushing with over 3000 yards of total offense. If Drob stays as good as he was near seasons end and a few of this years early picks disappear then Denard could very well account for 40 to 45 tds and roughly 4000 yards of total offense. Add that to 10+ wins. Plus all the draft insiders are betting Barkley won't be able to come close to last years numbers in 2012. I think Denards feet will win him the trophy.
WELL IF FIUTAK SAID IT
"Michigan has work to do on the defensive line ..."
Braxton Miller could be scary good by that time though
Herron and Posey. Ohio couldn't do anything without Herron and Posey early in the season and still had a lot of trouble without Posey. Plus they'll be instilling a new offense next year. Their defense returns everyone though, but then so does our offense (minus Molk) which smoked them this year.
Denard is scary good, Braxton will never be scary good. Bx<DRob
Feels good to be in the conversation again.
The *slump* Michigan found itself in has given way to championship talk. Next football season can't get here fast enough...
Last I checked this season is still not over and we have a BCS bowl game tomorrow for win number 11.
Games not tomorrow, it's tuesday.
Right now the schedule looks daunting, but it might not turn out to be quite as tough as we think. Bama might lose a bunch to the pros, ND might not be that good, OSU might go through some growing pains in the transition, etc. I remember people saying a lot of the same things about our 1997 schedule before that year.
If we go 11-1 or maybe 10-2 we could be in the hunt. We have one of, if not the, toughest schedules next year which is a double edged sword. It will be tough to win but the tougher the schedule the more consideration you get. This is especially true if the losses are early and also our preseason rank will be extremely important (see Alabama this year). After ratings this year I think the pollsters will do everything in their power to make the MNC a real National Championship.
Next year will be extremely tough but I have faith in this team and its leaders.
Seems like the author isn't watching college football too closely. If he was, he would realize that the loss of Martin and RVB will significantly impact us on defense, and that we will not simply drop two equally talented people into the holes left by Molk (one of the top centers) and Huyge. In addition, he would know that the schedule this year could not really have been more favorable (relatively easy schedule for six games while Hoke, et al got things up and running, eight home games, road games at Northwestern and Illinois in the middle of their plummet, catching Ohio in a down year, etc.), and that next year's schedule is pretty darn tough. Not to mention his theory requires that there be no other major-conference unbeaten team.
I would be thrilled to be 10-2 next year, and playing for a chance at a the Big Ten title.
I think that we should expect to win the Big Ten Title next year. Who would you pick over Michigan?
The guys at CFN tend to be pretty superficial in their knowledge and analysis, but all-in-all picking UM to make the MNC title game is not that far-fetched.
The way I look at these things, making a national title game requires not just a very good team, but also a good deal of luck--you have to avoid injuries to key personnel and unless you are a truly dominant team (like LSU this year, for instance), usually you need a few high-variance events to go your way. I don't expect Michigan to win the national championship in any given year due to the latter factor, but if you regularly field a team capable of competing with any opponent then presumably, over time, you will eventually have that dream season.
Michigan could conceivably have a good enough team to compete at the national level in 2012. We should have about as good an offense in 2012 as we've had in a long time, and while everyone is concerned about the defensive line, that could turn out to be an illusory worry if BWC & Q. Washington get it together.
I think the CFN guy is underestimating the difficulty of the schedule and the power of psychology.
1) The ND game is going to be very, very tough for us to win next year. Those domers are going to be as purple-ragey as their coach after what we've done to them the last three years.
2) Alabama in the south to start the year is also going to be very, very tough for us to win next year.
3) OSU in C-bus is going to be tough. I don't think it matters so much that it's their de facto bowl game because there's really no way they could be any more hyped for it without taking Pulp Fiction adrenaline-to-the-heart shots at Bobby Di Geronimo's house from Tressel's own hand an hour before kickoff.
4) Nebraska in Lincoln is going to be very tough.
5) Michigan State at home is going to be very tough. They're very good and we are the focus of their season.
Air Force in a possible let-down/deflated week after Alabama is not a gimme. For whatever reason, Iowa always plays us tough.
Say our chances in the ND, OSU, Nebraska game are 50-50. Then there's a 12.5% chance we win all three.
With that schedule, I'll be happy with another 10-2 season. I think 9-3 is significantly more probable than 11-1. But I hope that I'm wrong!
1) ND continues to find a way to lose to us, no matter how purple ragey they and their coach get. Turnover machine that is their offense loses its big top receiver.....We will see, maybe the Notre Dame hating angry turnover God will continue to strike them against the now blessed Wolverines!
2) Alabama in Texas to start season? People in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, and Oklahoma hate Alabama, so we might well find the crowd a lot more in our favor even if we are a B1G Yankee team.
3) OSU is very hard to project for 2012 given all the changes. They are always tough in Columbus, but we have been pretty successful against them with SENIOR QB's not named Henne.......
4) Michigan is used to playing as the big game on lots of team's schedules (read: MSU, Illinois, Iowa, Purdue, MSU, Ohio Akron Bobcats, etc) and Nebraska is just getting used to playing in a conference where everyone gets after you every week (except for Indiana). Nebraska will need a couple more years to get used to B1G play.
5) MSU game for 2012 is going to be a win, with Denard refusing to lose. Instead of Henri, the Otter of Ennui, we will see Oscar, the river otter of fun and frolick!
Personally, I'm calling a USC/LSU national title, I don't think Michigan is there yet.
Fiutak makes does his pre season analysis by using the random name generator in the NCAA games and pretending those people are on rosters.
That all sounds about right. And I like it.
I couldn't think of a worse time for the world to end then in anticipation of a Michigan MNC game. Curse you Mayans!!
do lose Junior,Kevin,David,Mark,Ryan,Mike,and Troy,but the seniors will lead this team.I have faith in are 3 D-line coaches.William Campbell will have a BREAK-OUT season.I think our O-line will be beast,Chris Bryant is getting better and our ALL STAR O-line is coming.We need Darryl Stonum to step up big time.I think SHOELACE will have his best season running and passing. Our schedule is tough but we only have one tough road game.Have faith people Michigan is back and Tuesday will only be the start of a THE SEASON.GO BLUE!!!
schedule next year, so we'll see .. That would be fucking awesome though ....