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November 10th, 2013 at 1:11 PM
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I think 6.5 is more

I think 6.5 is more realistic...

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November 10th, 2013 at 1:12 PM
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I'd bet on NW to cover.

I think we lose by at least 2 scores.

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November 10th, 2013 at 1:12 PM
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Bet the house on NW.

Bet the house on NW.

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November 10th, 2013 at 1:14 PM
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I'd lay the points here and

I'd lay the points here and would bet hard on NW.  I'll bet that line moves to about 6 or 7 by gametime.

With Borges running the show we absolutely suck and EVERYBODY knows it....

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November 10th, 2013 at 1:18 PM
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You should bet

The money that you are not spending on renewing your tickets next year.  As I turned the game off I thought about your statement on not being too "thrilled" to head to the game.  I figured you were at the point that many I have spoken to, just plain unattached from these losses.  I am interested to see how ticket sales for next year end up.

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November 10th, 2013 at 2:56 PM
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Bailing on mine

Will spend the OSU game in a Turkish prison, or something else fun. The schedule next year sucks, the PSLs suck, and I have no doubt that if we want to hit a game or two, good seats will be readily available.

With a 3 hour drive and everything factored in, football Saturdays are a $500 investment that really doesnt make sense anymore.

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November 10th, 2013 at 9:37 PM
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Tickets

I'm going to the game Saturday. I have been to all of the B10 stadiums except for NW, Neb., Maryland and Rutgers. So I'm marking one more off the list Saturday.

Also SLAYER is playing in Chicago Friday night. That helps.

I spend $125 on PSL's - Sec 19. I'm in row 71 and I like the seats but I'd like to move down another 20 rows or so, maybe over a little bit and this might be the year to try and better my seats.

Not thrilled about the program nor the direction. I'm never too thrilled about the coaching. I thought Carr was average at the very best, was thrilled with the RR hire but knew it wasn't right in Year 2, Hoke seems like an extention of Carr without the luxury of QB and years of recruiting road graders for OL.

I do have faith in the players who come here to play. 

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November 10th, 2013 at 10:51 PM
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Couches burn when people

Couches burn when people still care.  The fan base has really moved into the apathy stage.  Does anyone expect to win and if we do win does anyone expect a physical hard fough statement to be made?  Nah it would be a fluky type of win where 2 bad teams slug it out.  Couches are safe... when you expect to be beat down there is no surprise anymore, and hence emotion slowly seeps away. 

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November 10th, 2013 at 11:03 PM
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Yup

We don't get the Big 10 network at our house.  Gone to the local bar to watch the other UM games that have been on B10 network this year.  I'm not going to waste my time or money going to the bar this weekend.  Might try to watch Iowa and leaning towards not watching the OSU game - not interested in the watching that absolute beat down.

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November 10th, 2013 at 1:42 PM
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November 10th, 2013 at 1:19 PM
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Word is all the coaches in the B1G

are praising Brady Hoke. They say he is a class act and a great guy.They want him to coach Michigan forever.

I wonder why?

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November 10th, 2013 at 1:18 PM
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We're only +3??

Damn, take that action while it's still available.  That line should be UM +7 by Wednesday.  NW is only 0-5 in the B1G, it's not like they're, you know, 0-6 or something bad.  Taking NW and giving 3 points is stealing. 

If this line were an NFL team, it would be the Stealers.

If this line were a male model look, it would be Blue Steal.

If this line were a superhero, it would be The Man of Steal.

I could go on.  I'm depressed.

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November 10th, 2013 at 2:02 PM
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So depressed that you forgot how to spell “Steel”.*

cc

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November 10th, 2013 at 1:23 PM
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U know I can't wait for WTKA

U know I can't wait for WTKA tomorrow morning. I love Sam but he's always been blinded by defending the coaches no matter what. All I heard was that urban Meyer and other coaches had 8-9 win seasons in their third year. Whats the excuse now?

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November 10th, 2013 at 1:39 PM
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Great point!

Sam needs to suck up to the coaches to have access to the players. Don't think for one moment there is objectivity on WTKA. That said, the show at times is entertaining though it seems like the same callers are heard.

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November 10th, 2013 at 1:58 PM
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If you listened to the Sunday show this morning you'd know

that even Sam is now pretty disenchanted. He's never going to call for anybody's firing on the air, but he's far from happy.

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November 10th, 2013 at 2:15 PM
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Do they ever podcast the

Do they ever podcast the Sunday shows?

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November 10th, 2013 at 3:42 PM
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Yep, they should already be

Yep, they should already be up. 

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November 10th, 2013 at 2:04 PM
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Mark Dantonio went 6-7 in his third season.

Struggles in Year Three is not necessarily an ill portent.

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November 10th, 2013 at 10:56 PM
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I am sure if I spent 5

I am sure if I spent 5 minutes I could find a few coaches who won a NC in their 3rd year as well.  And UM is supposed to ,on paper, be superior to MSU via resources, money spent, recruiting ability, etc.  Dantonio had to pick up a big pile of crap left by John L and Bobby Williams.  At least Hoke had a bowl team, albeit a flawed one to work with.  Stop comparing the 2 as equals.  Any coach at UM has a 10 yard lead in a 40 yard dash on a team from East Lansing.   Now if you want to compare UM vs OSU or Alabama or USC or the tire fire down at Tennessee I am buying.   There are about 15 schools UM should be compared to and the only one as mediocre over the past 20 years has been ND.  Even Tenn grades out better amazingly if you look at top end seasons of 2 or less losses.

Dantonio has built a program - an identity, and shows the ability to turn 2 stars into top end NCAA players.  An ability to identify talent like 2 star/3 star Cousins and Bell.  Their players get better - no matter the age.  Hoke has shown nothing of the sort.

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November 10th, 2013 at 1:27 PM
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This is all speculative based

This is all speculative based on who NU (NOT NW, can we just start getting it right already?) has on the injury report come Saturday. Kain Colter plays? I'm comfortable saying this could be a two score game in their direction. He doesn't? It's close.

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November 10th, 2013 at 4:58 PM
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(NOT NW, can we just start

(NOT NW, can we just start getting it right already?

Why? NW makes perfect sense, and avoids ambiguity with Nebraska.  Besides, their school web address is nwu.edu.

 

 

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November 10th, 2013 at 5:37 PM
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Incorrect. Northwestern

Incorrect. Northwestern University is NU. The preferred acronym is NU. And they do not use nwu.edu, either.

http://www.northwestern.edu/

Also see: http://www.NUSports.com/

Nebraska is UNL. University of Nebraska-Lincoln. They're not Nebraska University. And if you want to use website URLs to prove a point, theirs is unl.edu. 

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November 10th, 2013 at 5:46 PM
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Hmm - I knew someone who went

Hmm - I knew someone who went there and I'm pretty sure his email address ended in nwu.edu.

Regardless, I don't see why we should care that much about what they prefer when we discuss the school amongst ourselves.  NW is not an insult, it's just shorthand to avoid confusion.  If they want to refer to us as "MI" instead of UM, I don't care.

 

 

 

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November 10th, 2013 at 5:49 PM
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Northwestern email addresses

Northwestern email addresses are @u.northwestern.edu. 

Of course NW is not an insult, and I don't care if you care or not, but the proper acronym is NU. And there's no reason for there to be confusion with Nebraska, because there's no reason to call them NU. Just pointing it out.

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November 10th, 2013 at 8:05 PM
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So why isn't Michigan UMAA?

So why isn't Michigan UMAA? University of Michigan-Ann Arbor?

As far as Nebraska and NU goes, it's an old Big 8 thing. Colorado, Baylor, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraksa, and Missouri all use U as the second letter. So they do have a reason to be called NU

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November 10th, 2013 at 1:55 PM
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However You Slice It...

It sort of means the game is a pick-em in a way, I would think. Using predictive numbers like Sagarin, for example, we find that Michigan's rating is 72.65 and Northwestern's is 72.01. Subract them for 0.64 then a further subtraction of 3.91 for HFA indicates Northwestern would be a 3.27 point favorite at home. If it were flipped and the game was in Ann Arbor, the prediction would be Michigan by 4.55. Either way, it would predict a close one. 

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November 10th, 2013 at 2:09 PM
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Well.

I was going to make the drive from TN; however, I don't think I'll waste my time, money, or weekend.

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November 10th, 2013 at 2:14 PM
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Pointspread will go up during the week

Start at 3, go up to 5-6 by Friday. Same thing happened at MSU with spread. Bad omens galore here. My wife DVR'ed the game yesterday, told her to nuke it when I got home. Seeing it live was bad enough. Any half-way decent coach knows how to stop this offense. It didn't really take Narduzzi to do it. I can only hope Brady has a friendly coach out there who will tell him how we're tipping off plays before we play Ohio.

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November 10th, 2013 at 2:32 PM
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I think the Nebraska DE

I think the Nebraska DE Gregory said it was easy to know which plays we were running, that since we run so many formations that each formation we have a tendency to run certain plays.

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November 10th, 2013 at 2:23 PM
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At this point we can only

At this point we can only hope we play well enough to keep the game within 3 points.  Our only prayer is that Borges is undeafed against NW.

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November 10th, 2013 at 3:00 PM
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All NW will have to do is

All NW will have to do is score 14 points and they'll win. So not surprised by the line.

For the first time in a long time, I am simply not hopeful that this squad will win any more games.

Even during RR's tenure, I was always hoping they'd win somehow.  But with a team that can't score... you ain't gonna win.  You can have a bad offense if you have a dominant defense, but you can't have a completely inept offense.  You gotta score a few points somehow.

 

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November 10th, 2013 at 3:01 PM
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I live in Evanston and I'm

I live in Evanston and I'm not going to the game out of fear. And that makes me sad.

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November 10th, 2013 at 3:32 PM
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NW will win

I'd take NW.

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November 10th, 2013 at 4:02 PM
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Michigan +3

against a reeling NW team?  

Yes it's on the road, but NW has been getting gut punched for the past 5 games. Clean house if you cant win this. 

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November 10th, 2013 at 5:17 PM
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Michigan is reeling too

and has been punched in the gut just as much. Yeah we beat Indiana, but it took over 700 yards of offense against one of the worst defenses in the country to pull it off.

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November 10th, 2013 at 5:52 PM
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We've certainly been punched

We've certainly been punched in the gut the last two weeks, but what NW has gone through probably goes beyond that.  In the last five games, they have:

-Lost to OSU in a heartbreaker that featured some iffy officiating

-Gotten totally destroyed by Wisconsin

-Lost a close one at home to Minnesota 

-Lost in overtime to Iowa

-Seemingly stopped the bleeding in Lincoln, only to lose on a Hail Mary.

How either of these two teams will respond, I have no idea.

 

 

 

 

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November 10th, 2013 at 5:58 PM
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Not that far apart

from my POV. Especially when you factor in that we'll be on the road, and that we're woefully unprepared to play road games every time.

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November 10th, 2013 at 9:45 PM
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Well, fortunately, Evanston

Well, fortunately, Evanston isn't really a road environment for us.  At least, it normally isn't - I hope fans who bought tickets are still planning on going.

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November 10th, 2013 at 4:59 PM
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Both teams are in a funk.

Both teams are in a funk.  NW's funk has been going on since the beginning of October.  I wouldn't touch this.

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November 10th, 2013 at 5:31 PM
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Northwestern will bring the

Northwestern will bring the house on D every single time.



And Borges will do nothing about it except having Fitz run into a stacked box and have play action passes that take way too long to develop, thereby resulting in Gardner getting sacked at least 3-4 times.



13-6 Northwestern

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November 10th, 2013 at 7:53 PM
(Reply to #44) #343
Wolverine Devotee
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Who the fuck is Fitzpatrick?

Who the fuck is Fitzpatrick?

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November 10th, 2013 at 9:10 PM
(Reply to #46) #344
crazyjoedavola
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Titans QB who managed to lose

Titans QB who managed to lose to Jacksonville...

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November 10th, 2013 at 7:15 PM
#345
MGoBlue96
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Says quite a bit about the state of this team

Dogs to a team that is in meltdown mode, and has no conference wins. Though I guess since homefield is usually worth about 3 points, it is closer to a push.

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November 10th, 2013 at 7:54 PM
(Reply to #45) #346
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Meltdown? Worried? Panic??

Meltdown? Worried? Panic?? This site? Nah.

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November 10th, 2013 at 10:59 PM
#347
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fyi I read UM has never in

fyi I read UM has never in its history not been favored vs NW.  Pretty interesting considering some of those RR teams but they happened to coincide with "Not Barnett" NW era.

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November 10th, 2013 at 10:59 PM
#348
UMgradMSUdad
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So, should the over/under for

So, should the over/under for rushing yards be a positive or negative number?

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November 10th, 2013 at 11:07 PM
#349
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no matter how much I hate what's been happening to this team

I still think we are 50/50 to beat either/both Northwestern & Iowa.

Unfortunately I think we're at about 2% chance for OSU.

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November 11th, 2013 at 2:23 AM
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McSomething
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We struggle at Iowa

when we're decent to good. This team, as it stands does not have a 50/50 shot at Iowa.

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November 11th, 2013 at 10:34 AM
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Not sure what to expect at NW

I am disappointed at this point in the season like everyone else. We should not be in this position but, here we are 3 point dogs at an 0-5 NW. We need this one bad!

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