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Michigan offers [greyshirt] DT Brady Pallante. Per Tremendous: very likely on the verge of adding a new commitment

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February 17th, 2013 at 11:57 PM | What are you talking about? (Score:2 Normal)
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What are you talking about? Prove to me Michael Ferns was offered a full scholarship. Prove to me his Twitter account is not an elaborate hoax. That's basically what you're asking right now.

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February 17th, 2013 at 11:25 PM | No one hates on the SEC for (Score:2 Normal)
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No one hates on the SEC for this as long as the player knows it when he commits. It's when guys are forced into it that it's shady.

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February 17th, 2013 at 11:28 PM | Did you see the sizes of classes (Score:1 Normal)
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that the majority of the SEC took. 30 player at 2 schools, 32 for another...come on.

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February 17th, 2013 at 11:45 PM | The limits 25, Michigan took (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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The limits 25, Michigan took 27 word around here was 28 was the target. Those 2 schools you are referring to back dated scholarships so did Michigan, that is not breaking the rules. Maybe the BIG should allow schools to back date more then 3 scholarships just maybe it will become more competitive

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February 18th, 2013 at 1:45 AM | Big Ten recruiting (Score:4 Normal)
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I don't think middling Big Ten schools have been turning away 4-star recruits due to inadequate scholarship allotments, so increasing the per-year limit probably wouldn't make a difference.

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February 18th, 2013 at 8:33 AM | I didn't realize that it was a B1G rule... (Score:1)
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...to only back-date up to 3 schollies per year. I thought it was an NCAA rule. Believing that, I thought it particularly odd that several SEC schools had 5 to 7 over 25.

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:06 AM | How about you provide us with (Score:1)
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How about you provide us with one example of someone here actually doing that in a comparable situation?

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February 17th, 2013 at 11:34 PM | if there's one thing hoke and (Score:5 Normal)
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if there's one thing hoke and mattison know, its the d-line. hoke personally oversaw a d-line that won a national title. he knows what he's looking for. state champion wrestler shows he must have great strength, and a coach's son means he should have great technique and fundamentals. plenty of guys fly under the radar that turn out to be studs. not saying he'll be a stud, but he could. bottom line is that if he's good enough for hoke, he's good enough for us fans.

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:39 PM | Yes, it's worth pointing out (Score:2)
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Yes, it's worth pointing out that he is not being offered as a walk-on where he may never get a scholarship.  

He is being offered a firm 2015 scholarship.  He will count toward the 2015 scholarship limit.  The coaches clearly want him, but they have other 2014 priorities they have to address with limited scholarships for 2014.

 

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:01 AM | This thread shows us that (Score:5 Normal)
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This thread shows us that while 85% of M fans are pretty knowledgeable, those other 15% are idiots. 

2011 Nebraska State Champ "We're Michigan." @tannerwooten not that funny, though.

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:32 AM | I was about to say something (Score:5 Normal)
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I was about to say something similar.  I'm not sure that I've ever seen an MGoBlog thread so clearly distinguish the good posters on here (in my view) from the other ones.

Also, there seems to be a pretty strong positive correlation between grammatical skills and non-craziness/assholeness around here.

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:45 AM | hmmmmmm. (Score:5 Normal)
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Been  a lot of MLive in these parts of late...

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:55 AM | Mr. Cook (Score:5 Normal)
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Plz bring back Negbangs.

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:04 PM | It's the 15% rule (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't care where you are on the planet, a solid 15% of people everywhere are assholes. It's unfortunate that it also applies to UM fans, but the evidence is irrefutable.


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February 18th, 2013 at 12:41 PM | When I'm in Columbus, it (Score:5 Normal)
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When I'm in Columbus, it seems to become the 80% rule.

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:41 PM | When I'm in Columbus, it (Score:4 Normal)
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When I'm in Columbus, it seems to become the 80% rule.

M'Dog

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February 18th, 2013 at 2:30 PM | so true, he had to post it (Score:5 Normal)
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so true, he had to post it twice.

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:05 AM | Edit: I suck at the internet. (Score:5 Normal)
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Edit: I suck at the internet. Nevermind.

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:16 AM | Not sure if a reliable (Score:3 Normal)
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Not sure if a reliable source, but Joshua Henschke of the Big House Report has a post up—Quick Hits with Brady Pallante—based on an interview with Pallante. It indicates a commitment isn't imminent.

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:41 AM | Thanks for posting (Score:2)
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Thanks for posting this.

Honestly, if I were advising the kid I would strongly encourage him to commit.  It would secure a place at a great school, get him a ton of exposure for possible full scholarship offers, and put him in a place where no one would fault him if he decided to go elsewhere for a traditional scholarship (especially since there's so much time until Signing Day 2015).

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February 18th, 2013 at 9:36 AM | forgive me if I'm wrong, but (Score:3 Normal)
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forgive me if I'm wrong, but assuming a greyshirt, couldn't he commit on signing day and still be assured a spot since it's for the 2015 class?  If i were him I would wait until then to see if I got a 2014 full ride from somebody or a school that I liked better offered me a greyshirt (yes, impossible to like any school more than U of M)

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February 18th, 2013 at 1:37 PM | I don't think so. (Score:2)
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If he wants to wait, then he is running the risk of the coaches offering that spot to someone else. Although his signing day is further off, that doesn't mean the coaches are going to wait almost a year to decide whether to recruit somebody else for that spot. They are bringing 2015 kids in for visits and have sent out a handful of offers already.

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:27 AM | Sign me up as a fan of this kid (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't think he is going to be a 5 star recruit, because his ceiling is somewhat limited by his athletic ability, but he has a very high floor. The kid consistently maintains low leverage, shoots off the ball pretty well, has a strong base, and uses his hands well. He has the technique already that is often the most difficult to teach many of the guys in the trenches. Now he isn't going to be chasing down WRs sideline to sideline, but if he has always dreamed of playing for Michigan, he camped at Michigan, and decides to commit, I would be happy with the pick up. Would be solid as a penetrating 3-tech or be able to hold his own at the nose. He won't be a star of a class, but would be a great foundation to build around because you would know what you have in him.

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:08 PM | People also need to keep in mind that it's important (Score:2)
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to have guys who are willing to be primarily practice players content to bust their asses during the week without many opportunities to see the field on Saturdays.


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February 18th, 2013 at 3:46 PM | You don't recruit that way though. (Score:2 Normal)
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You don't say, "well, we need some hard working won't complain practice guys in this class." You hope they fill out that way, but ideally it's young guys waiting for their chance. You may take guys who are specialists...long snappers, return guys, etc. Guys you know won't be NFL left tackles or 2000 yard rushers, but can help your team.  But not guys just to fill out a roster and add spirit.

If they offered a spot to this kid, I believe they think he can play.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:14 PM | Agreed (Score:2)
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I agree that someone who does things the right way every time is a player worth having. One thing people seem to consistently forget is that Mattison likes to shuttle guys in and out both on the line and in the LB corps, to keep them fresh. If Pallante can come in on 2nd or 3rd down for a play to give the starting DT the chance to catch his breath, that seems a worthwhile goal, and a reasonable scholarship to offer.

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:59 PM | ^^^This.Unless you are (Score:2)
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^^^This.

Unless you are Alabama or oversign like carzy (redundant, I know), you are not going to get all 4*/5*'s for the number of guys that Mattison wants to play on D.

You need some "active bench" players.  These are not just guys that come in when somebody gets hurt, they are regular players that are part of the normal rotation but not necessary the first-choice guys you put in on money downs when the game is on the line.  

They are your third or fourth line in Hockey.  You need those kind of guys in Mattison's system.

 

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:35 AM | keep the stars (Score:1)
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All I care about is toughness and physicalness.

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:52 AM | Sounds like Hoke if you just (Score:4 Normal)
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Sounds like Hoke if you just add the part about "hearing football." 

"I can hear football being played when Brady Pallante puts on the pads."

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February 18th, 2013 at 1:02 AM | Or (Score:2 Normal)
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physicality. To use the new word on the block.

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February 18th, 2013 at 2:26 AM | Or (Score:3 Normal)
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MANBALLNESS. To use the newer word on the block.

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:54 AM | I always say it! (Score:1)
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The coaches could recruit all unranked guys, but they would still know what they are doing and it'd still be a great team.

Some on this thread clearly only care about stars and rankings.

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February 18th, 2013 at 6:54 AM | I love Hoke as much as the (Score:0 Normal)
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I love Hoke as much as the next guy but what has he done in two years to make you think he can develop zero stars into talent?

You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.

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February 18th, 2013 at 9:23 AM | Well he did develop guys with (Score:5 Normal)
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Well he did develop guys with zero star coaching into talent.

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February 18th, 2013 at 11:51 AM | Hoke (Score:2)
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I highly doubt Pallatine is going to wind up as a zero star recruit.  There are lots of players who Scout and Rivals don't get around to rating until pretty late in the cycle.

That said, Hoke's defensive staff has gotten production out of walk-ons (Heininger, Brink, arguably Kovacs depending on how you define him and how much credit you give to Rich Rod's staff), a guy recruited to play offensive line (QWash), and several players who came in with underwhelming recruiting profiles (Desmond Morgan, Raymon Taylor, Keith Heitzman).

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February 18th, 2013 at 1:53 PM | LOL (Score:1 Trolling)
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LOL at the idea that Hoke has only been coaching for two years.

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February 18th, 2013 at 1:42 AM | Seems strange to offer a grey shirt this early in the process (Score:3 Normal)
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But maybe Brady just likes Bradys.

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February 18th, 2013 at 8:47 AM | It's probably a similar (Score:1)
Fitz
Joined: 11/13/2010
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It's probably a similar situation to the safety in the 2012 class. If they miss on a lot of other d line guys or have extra space it may become a normal offer

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February 18th, 2013 at 8:56 PM | . (Score:1)
Mike420GoBlue
Joined: 09/02/2012
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We can has all of the Brady's

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February 18th, 2013 at 2:53 AM | WOOOO (Score:-1 Normal)
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WOOOO GREYSHIRT

Full-on Decatur Clan. Whatever happens, GO BLUE!

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February 18th, 2013 at 12:26 PM | lol "offtopic" (Score:-1 Offtopic)
Decatur Jack
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Yes, in a thread about greyshirting, a "WOO GREYSHIRT" comment is off-topic.

I guess there aren't a lot of fans of Beyonce on this board.

Full-on Decatur Clan. Whatever happens, GO BLUE!

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February 18th, 2013 at 8:39 AM | Don't (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Joined: 01/15/2013
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Want
(Testing new MGoBlog app)

Pennsylvania is the California of the East

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February 18th, 2013 at 10:40 AM | Can someone please call the wambulance? (Score:4 Normal)
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February 18th, 2013 at 11:57 AM | Go (Score:2 Normal)
Needs
Joined: 08/05/2008
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Away

(yep, seems to work just fine).

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February 18th, 2013 at 3:43 PM | So stupid (Score:2 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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It had to be said twice.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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February 18th, 2013 at 9:02 PM | you (Score:3 Normal)
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suck

 

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"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"

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February 18th, 2013 at 9:44 AM | people need to quit being (Score:2 Normal)
white_pony_rocks
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people need to quit being jackasses.  Do the people complaining about this realize that 'Bama took a pro style qb last class rated at an 81?  or that they took an ILB rated at an 84?  LSU took a DT rated at an 86 and an OT at an 84.  UF had a non special teams player rated in the 70s.  Point is, no team is going to get all 4-5 stars, deal with it

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February 18th, 2013 at 11:14 AM | According to Scout, In 2010 Alabama (Score:4 Normal)
Don
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signed 2-star DT Brandon Ivory, and unranked DT Anthony Orr. Too bad Nick wasted those scholarships; otherwise he might have won a national championship.


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February 18th, 2013 at 2:20 PM | Anthony Orr was a top 30 DE (Score:2)
RakeFight
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Anthony Orr was a top 30 DE with 3 stars on both Scout and Rivals with offers from half a dozen SEC schools.

But your point still stands, especially considering he grey-shirted.  And Ivory is a great example of under the radar talent... 2 stars, unranked at his position, no BCS offers other than Alabama.

 

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February 18th, 2013 at 3:47 PM | Was this (Score:1)
M-Wolverine
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An EA NCAA reference?

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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