We are now 23rd in the AP poll.
I thought we might have been a few spots higher.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings
yes plz
Michigan now 23 in AP Poll
October 14th, 2012 at 12:22 PM
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Michigan now 23 in AP Poll
October 14th, 2012 at 12:30 PM | 
Why is Ohio not among the
Why is Ohio not among the
October 14th, 2012 at 1:19 PM |
They are. Ohio is 25th.
They are. Ohio is 25th.
They are. Ohio is 25th.
October 14th, 2012 at 2:00 PM |
I think you are confusing
I think you are confusing
I think you are confusing Ohio with OHIO.
October 14th, 2012 at 1:20 PM |
Why?
Why?
Because OMG BRAXTON MILLER HEISMAN!!!! That's why.
I'm not a lunatic. Seriously, i'm not.
Ok, maybe just a little bit.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:08 PM |
better yet ...
better yet ...
why are they even eligible to participate in the coaches poll? what a freaking slap. Allow ohio and their trucker fans to still be arrogant about how good they are. NCAA sanctions are going to mean nothing to this program that cheated for 10 years !!!
Go Blue!
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October 14th, 2012 at 7:15 PM |
They're not eligible to be
They're not eligible to be
They're not eligible to be ranked in the coaches poll...
Go Blue!
October 14th, 2012 at 12:29 PM |
At this point, I think the
At this point, I think the
At this point, I think the polls are moot. The B1G isn't getting a second BCS bid, so it's Rose Bowl or bust. Win out and the rest will be taken care of.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:38 PM |
Agreed. Rankings have pretty
Agreed. Rankings have pretty
Agreed. Rankings have pretty much zero bearing on Michigan anymore this season. The only thing that matters are the B1G standings. Pasadena or bust...
October 14th, 2012 at 12:42 PM |
Rankings
Rankings
I agree that the rankings have no real signficance this season. But it still makes me feel good to see a lower number next to Michigan's name whenever I turn on my TV or computer.
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October 14th, 2012 at 12:29 PM |
Biggest Surprise?
Biggest Surprise?
West Virginia 17 and Texas Tech 18. Both 5-1. How do you beat a team 49-14 and be ranked a spot below them?
October 14th, 2012 at 12:32 PM |
By playing the way WV has the
By playing the way WV has the
By playing the way WV has the rest of the season, scoring tons of points, and being flashy. The transitive property does not apply to sports.
October 14th, 2012 at 1:17 PM |
That isn't transitive.
That isn't transitive.
It would transitive if TT beat a team that beat WVU.
It is simply TT beat WVU. Annihilated them. How could TT be a worse team?
October 14th, 2012 at 2:21 PM |
Do you know what the
Do you know what the
Do you know what the transitive property is?
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October 14th, 2012 at 3:39 PM |
Yuk yuk yuk, you know what I
Yuk yuk yuk, you know what I
Yuk yuk yuk, you know what I mean. Rankings will never be based on team A beat team B who beat team C. Just because one team beats another in one game doesn't mean a) that they'll be ranked higher or b) they're the better team.
October 14th, 2012 at 4:23 PM |
Huh
Huh
It's really bizarre that you appear to know what the transitive property is, but fail to see that it does not apply in any way to the case at hand.
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October 14th, 2012 at 5:17 PM |
Hah, you're right, and I
Hah, you're right, and I
Hah, you're right, and I apologize. I always jump to that argument when people complain about how one team is ranked higher than another despite just losing.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:35 PM |
seconded
seconded
It's one thing to beat a team but everyone really knows that the other team is better overall.
Texas Tech CREAMED WVU. Doesn't make much sense.
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October 14th, 2012 at 12:44 PM |
Margin of victory factors
Margin of victory factors
Margin of victory factors into the AP poll (as well it should)
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October 14th, 2012 at 5:22 PM |
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about? The AP poll is voted on by the press.
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October 14th, 2012 at 12:29 PM |
AP Poll
AP Poll
There are still lots of undefeated and 1-loss teams, since we are only two weeks into conference play. If we beat State, we should make a pretty good jump.
"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion
October 14th, 2012 at 12:35 PM |
Beating State will make them
Beating State will make them
Beating State will make them 1-3 in conference and 4-4 overall. I'm not expecting a pretty good jump based off of that victory.
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October 14th, 2012 at 12:48 PM |
MSU game
MSU game
MSU's record may not be very good, but I still think a win against MSU will carry some cachet with the AP voters because MSU has beaten us four straight seasons. Ending that streak sends a clear signal that the program has taken a step forward.
Then again, you could be right. State doesn't really get a whole lot of national respect even when they are winning, so maybe the voters will not think much of a UM win.
"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion
October 14th, 2012 at 12:51 PM |
The Big East and Big 12 have
The Big East and Big 12 have
The Big East and Big 12 have a number of teams ranked above Michigan that have yet to play each other; it is unlikely that all stay ranked where they are after head-to-head games lead to some or all of them collecting some losses. Voters have not tended to give teams in the Big East (unlike *cough* the SEC) the benefit of the doubt when the lose a few league games.
October 14th, 2012 at 3:59 PM |
I was looking at that, too.
I was looking at that, too.
I was looking at that, too. Teams ahead of us likely to lose, or get challenged soon:
#3 Florida could lose to South Carolina this week, and Georgia/FSU wont be easy.
#4KState will be challenged by Texas Tech, TCU, and maybe Texas.
#5Notre Dame should've lost twice now at home, and likely will @Oklahoma and @USC.
#8Oregon State hasn't beaten anybody, and likely won't survive against Washington, Stanford, Cal, and USC.
#10Oklahoma has trap games @Iowa State, @West Virginia, and @TCU. They can run up the score, but they defend like Baylor.
#12Florida State should derp away another game, or maybe two, just because that's what they do. @Virginia Tech looks like the ideal game to lose, so they'll probably crush VTech and lose to Duke for no reason, lol.
#14Clemson still has VTech, NCState, and South Carolina, and they let everybody put up 4+ touchdowns on them.
#15Mississippi State plays @Alabama, A@M, and @LSU. Yeah.
The Big East teams like #16Louisville, #19Rutgers, and #21Cincy all play each other soon. We'll jump them in no time.
#17West Virginia got humiliated against a normal Texas Tech defense. At this rate losses to KState, TCU, Oklahoma, and maybe even @Iowa State are in the cards. @Oklahoma State will be Baylor round 2, and it's even remotely possible that their last game against Kansas will be their only other win this year. They're eerily reminiscent of 2009/2010 Michigan: Great out of the gate, struggling for bowl eligibilty by seasons end.
#18Texas Tech plays @KState, and @TCU next. Those 3 I expect to take turns losing to each other.
#22 Stanford will likely lose @ Oregon.
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October 14th, 2012 at 12:31 PM |
The Coaches' Poll...
The Coaches' Poll...
Coaches' Poll is out as well - we are #25. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/polls/coaches-poll/
We are the only Big Ten team in the Coaches' Poll actually. Northwestern, Nebraska and Wisconsin did at least get votes, however.
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October 14th, 2012 at 12:31 PM |
Stanford with 2 loses as well
Stanford with 2 loses as well
is still ranked ahead of us despite the fact that we lost to two Top 5 teams (#1 Bama and #5 ND) on the road!
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October 14th, 2012 at 12:32 PM |
They have a better win (USC).
They have a better win (USC).
They have a better win (USC).
October 14th, 2012 at 12:34 PM |
Stanford
Stanford
Maybe the reason the voters didn't drop Stanford much is that the voters actually watched the game.
Nah, that would never happen. Forget I said that. I don't know what I was thinking.
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October 14th, 2012 at 12:44 PM |
Yes, I noticed that too
Yes, I noticed that too
Michigan's losses are to the #1 & #5 teams in the poll, while Stanford's losses are to the #5 & an unranked U-W team. Both of Stanford's losses are more recent. The reasoning isn't there, but these things (polls) are not about reason. Better to be aware, but not care too much.
Rose Bowl ho!
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October 14th, 2012 at 2:35 PM |
Our loss to Alabama was a
Our loss to Alabama was a
Our loss to Alabama was a blowout and when you commit six turnovers as we did at ND, that is something people remember. Both games had national coverage in prime time. I just don't see ND's ranking, but I guess it's ND.
October 14th, 2012 at 4:37 PM |
By seasons end I expect Ohio
By seasons end I expect Ohio
By seasons end I expect Ohio to keep surviving and staying ranked, and then we beat them at seasons end. When we do ND will likely have already lost @Oklahoma, and just lost @USC. Can you imagine the schadenfruede when we pass 2 loss ND in the polls? Oregon against Bama for the BCSNCG, Michigan/USC for the Rose Bowl, and one loss Big12, ACC, and undefeated Big East teams in the other 3 bowls blocking ND from the BCS. Lmfao
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October 14th, 2012 at 2:36 PM |
Damned Double
Damned Double
Double
October 14th, 2012 at 12:31 PM |
We're going to be a slow
We're going to be a slow
We're going to be a slow rising team this year. Even though I think we've been just as impressive as say, Ohio State, the fact is we did lose two games early and that sets a team back.
We also don't have many chances to jump a bunch of spots due to our own performance. Two of our big games (MSU and Nebraska) are looking less and less like potential impressive victories. As of now, Ohio is the only ranked team on the schedule and they have looked as shaky as a 7-0 team can be.
October 14th, 2012 at 3:10 PM |
Most upward poll movement is based on attrition.
Most upward poll movement is based on attrition.
We are a close #2 in the two-loss club, so we're not going to get much upward movement in the unrecognized two-loss group.
However, my rule of thumb is that if you continue winning, it takes about 3-5 weeks to halve your ranking. If we continue winning, we'll rise to a respectable ranking in the relevant-to-fan-talk polls.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:33 PM |
ND is a joke
ND is a joke
I see about 8 teams ranked below the domers, who would be giving them points if they played, and one who will.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:42 PM |
Rankings based on resume. (Or
Rankings based on resume. (Or
Rankings based on resume. (Or at least they should be.) ND is undefeated, so I don't have a problem with where they're ranked right now. If (read: when) they lose, they'll come back down.
October 14th, 2012 at 3:04 PM |
Agreed. ND is 5th out of the 12 undefeated teams.
Agreed. ND is 5th out of the 12 undefeated teams.
I can't reject the null hypothesis. (That they belong at #5 out of the 12.)
October 14th, 2012 at 12:35 PM |
I think it's still pretty
I think it's still pretty
I think it's still pretty fair. If we win the next game I think the needle moves a little more but again at that point State would be a sub-.500 team (please please please) so probably not much. This year everybody is right that the rankings mean next to nothing to us since no Big Ten team is getting a second BCS bid due to extenuating circumstances (lol Ohio).
If things keep going to plan then by the end of the year the Rose Bowl could be a Top 10 affair with Michigan having a somewhat decent chance to get a Rose Bowl win for the first time in a long time and a pair of BCS wins in a long, long time.
All that said let's just focus on State and beat the crap out of them, politely.
Here's hoping for a bright future. This team does try hard and I will continue to support them.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:39 PM |
Politely my @ss!
Politely my @ss!
- Lady in rollers, "Kung Fu Hustle"
They deserve "60 Minutes of Unnecessary Roughness."
October 14th, 2012 at 12:40 PM |
Get out of here with your
Get out of here with your
Get out of here with your politeness. Beat the crap out of them and then insult their mothers.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:42 PM |
Forever, actually
Forever, actually
Michigan having a somewhat decent chance to get... a pair of BCS wins in a long, long time
Forever, actually. We've never won back-to-back BCS bowls (or equivalent, in the pre-BCS era): http://bentley.umich.edu/athdept/football/bowls/
BTW, does anyone know how to make a table on this site? What I'm really asking is: Chart?
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October 14th, 2012 at 1:05 PM |
It's an option if you're
It's an option if you're
It's an option if you're making a forum post or diary. Personally I like copy/pasting from Excel better.
Go Blue!
October 14th, 2012 at 2:11 PM |
Forever, actually. We've
Forever, actually. We've
Forever, actually. We've never won back-to-back BCS bowls (or equivalent, in the pre-BCS era):
True, although it's worth noting that before 1975, the Big Ten didn't allow its teams to go to bowls other than the Rose, and prior to 1972 you couldn't go to that two straight years, either.
October 14th, 2012 at 2:11 PM |
Which isn't surprising. Until
Which isn't surprising. Until
Which isn't surprising. Until recently B1G teams weren't allowed to go to bowls in consecutive years.
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October 14th, 2012 at 12:56 PM |
Thirding foregoing politeness
Thirding foregoing politeness
Actually, I would prefer simply beating State decisively on the field and treating the win indifferently. That would really burn them.
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October 14th, 2012 at 12:37 PM |
Just
Just
Win
October 14th, 2012 at 10:13 PM |
Baby!
Baby!
Baby!
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October 14th, 2012 at 12:42 PM |
The fact that our two
The fact that our two
The fact that our two ass-whoopings were nationally televised is costing us at least 3 spots in the polls and probably more.
No worries. If in fact this team is worthy of a BCS bowl, they will have an opportunity to crack the top 14.
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October 14th, 2012 at 1:12 PM |
I wouldn't say we looked good
I wouldn't say we looked good
I wouldn't say we looked good against ND, but a 13-6 loss to the #5 team in the country is hardly a whooping. I think we end the season between #10-15.
Doctor Wolverine
October 14th, 2012 at 2:18 PM |
If we win out and get 2-3
If we win out and get 2-3
If we win out and get 2-3 spots every week, we will be top 10. I think we'll move into the top 15 if we beat MSU and Nebraska. Minn, NW, and Iowa won't be worth much, but if OSU is a no-loss or single-loss team when we beat them, we should easily jump into the top 10.
Why is Ohio not among the lowest ranked undefeated teams? They should be below Oregon St, Mississippi St, and Louisville with the way they've played. Every win has been a squeaker except Nebraska.
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