We just won the Sugar Bowl. This is Michigan, fergodsakes.
Michigan NEVER LEFT - and complete douches
worried about what a buckeye has to say about Michigan?
By his logic, ohio will be totally irrelevant for 3 straight yrs, 2010 0-12, 2011 6-7, 2012 has no impact on the bcs title game.....they can't go bowling...............
why you are upset at a ohio douchenozzle with a microphone? They spiel agenda, if you have to call in, just ask why he is bending over for secESPiN when he goes to work? Ask him why he is no better then the 2 dollar whore doing anything for that buck...but I expect nothing less from a buck i
Eddie George, sitting on his hate perch, spewing more anti-Michigan venom. He may have had his fun with RR over the last few years, but he's going to have a hard time getting people to bite on anti-Hoke sentiment.
There's a lot of anti-Michigan douchery on mid-day Sirius, I'm noticing...
But at this point all I have to say about national people is that Haters gonna hate.
ARE most certainly becoming Internet Blog-like every day. It's less about journalism (checking out stories, being impartial, only reporting real news, etc.) and more about throwing out rumors, baseless opinions, gossip, and rants in order to incite the viewers or listeners. They're just brainlessly following the Rush Limbaugh model of getting attention (clicks, ratings, callers, etc.) by polarizing society. To these type of media d-bags, there's only black and white. You're either relevant or irrelevant. Liberal or Non-Liberal. Fantastic or a piece of shit. Ugly or gorgeous. I don't think this is a good development at all. ESPN, CBS, NBC, or the other major sports networks need to hold themselves to a much higher standard and rethink putting shit eaters with an ax to grind like George on the air without a filter attached to their mouth.
There are way too many talking heads on both TV and the radio. Nobody talks x's and o's anymore. The older I get, the more I tune these people out and the less sensivite I become to stupid rants from some idiot's opinion that doesn't matter to me.
That's why we're here. I love reading MGoBlog, touchthebanner, smart football. Learning a great deal, considering I'm more of a baseball guy.
It's sports talk radio. You shouldn't feel the need to either respond to or validate 95% of the shit that is ever spewed on sports talk radio.
Example A: Mike Valenti
or create threads about...
People are talking about us because we won the Sugar Bowl and 11 games.
I'll take that.
Let them say what they want.... 11 wins. BCS Bowl victory.
If Hoke had said "Michigan is back" or something like that some people (mainly anti-Michigan sports reporters) would have viewed it as him bashing RR. You would have seen "HOKE BASHES RODRIGUEZ" in the headlines the next day.
The correct and classy thing to do was to say we never left; implying the University is a bit more than a football team; which is very true and thus avoid being seen as trying to bash RR.
Eddie George is all mad because the Bucks suck this year.
Eddie George, and most other sports talk hosts will say whatever they need to in order to be offensive and get riled up callers on the air. It makes for good radio.
"Michigan never left because Michigan is still (and has been) one of the greatest universities in the world - academically and financially. The amount of scholarship and advancement in multiple areas we produce is rivalled only by other top tier universities - even in the Ivy League. The integrity of the university is equal to best. Though we are a public university, we are consistently labeled a top school. Bang for your buck, we may not be rivaled by anyone. A university is worth much more than football team. And in every area other than football, we never left."
And herein lies the problem. Eddie George was talking about football. You are talking about the entire Michigan experience. I agree that Michigan is still Michigan and would be even if we tore the Big House down tomorrow and never fielded a football team again. The University is one of the greatest in the world which is why we all love it and some of us chose to study there.
But, 3-9, 5-7, and to a certain extent 7-6 aren't sufficient to say that Michigan was still a nationally relevant football program. We were nationally relevant from 08-10 because the entire country loves schadenfreude and it was happy hour for it in Ann Arbor for three years. Hell, Sparty is still drunk on it.
I love Hoke for saying "Michigan never left," because it unites the fanbase and it taps into everything we love about the school and the idea of being a Michigan fan. But Hoke just got here. He wasn't around for the worst of it.
All this talk of Michigan being gone, back, or never having left in the first place is getting a bit tiresome. It all feels like hubris to me. I'm more concerned about where Michigan is going. I think we can all agree on an answer to that.
Interesting, … does that mean UofTexas, ND, or Fla. Gators are irrelevant because they have had a couple of down years?
What actual number of years and records does it take to qualify for irrelevancy? (Just askin’) Not that they need a definition, they just want to get people fired up and call in.
And think about it,... would you rather have a bunch of UofM alums calling to debate or a bunch of from Ohio,... (What was that old line, 10,000 alums and 40,000 truckers?) 8P
George was talking about football. While the OP is correct in his assessment of Michigan as a university, it is all immaterial to this discussion. The truth is Michigan was awful for 3 years, and could be seen as some as being "irrelevant". But all of the coverage of Michigan's fall seems to suggest otherwise. Luckily for us, our program is so ingrained in the history of college football that we could never truly be irrelevant. People are fascinated by us, win or lose. Thankfully, we win more than anyone else
I also agree that the talk of leaving/not leaving/returning is too much. I do think it is hubris, but I don't think the negative connotation of the word should apply. We are hubristic because we are fans of the winningest program in the nation. Can't really get hubris from anywhere else but maybe Oklahoma, Alabama, Texas, ND, USC.
For what it's worth, the term 'hubris' comes from ancient-Greek, where it referred to ill-treatment of a sexual conquest for the erotic satisfaction of the conqueror. Seems apropos, in a way, after finally beating Ohio and winning in "MSU's bowl game".
And he never played in a Rose Bowl, so I guess since he was never in a "BCS" game, his career was irrelevant too.
Coming from a buckeye who couldn't beat the wolverines on the biggest stage certainly holds credibility in such a discussion. Maybe Tim B should call the show and talk about the irrelevant 1995 buckeye team...
You nailed it! It doesn't matter if Ohio can beat Michigan next year or if UM is relevant, Eddie George can never go back to 1995 and undo the pain from that loss. He went to Ohio during the period UM dominated, and it jabs at him everytime he's sees a winged helmet or hears The Victors.
So the next time you see Eddie George, give him a hug. The man is hurting emotionally...have some pity.
I agree with saying Michigan never left and all those teams that conitnually circle our game on thier schedules agree by thier actions. Iowa has won 3 in a row, Michigan State 4, and until this year Ohio a million. Those teams never stopped caring about Michigan and putting special emphasis on that game and I don't see anyone putting any astriks next to thier wins (which they should not and also why Michigans win over Ohio matters even though they are on a down year). Michigan has, does, and always get opponents attention and best efforts because This Is Michigan! Just because the team had a few down years in the midst of a perfect storm doesn't mean they went anywhere.
It does piss me off though that I can't hardly turn on ESPN or the radio and not see or hear an Ohio alum. Granted Herbstreit is not as bad as he used to be, and I find Spielman to be more bearable than others, but it still irks me how many of them are given the ability to share their flawed views with the masses. Robert Smith is the ABSOLUTE WORST! He cannot say something unbiased to save his life! Eddie George is the same way.
This kind of dumbassery by Eddie George is precisely the kind of idiocy that Kirk Herbstreit is too smart for. (I'd sort of like to say that about Spielman, too, but it wouldn't be true, Mr. Indiana-backups...)
And speaking of Hesiman winners saying stupid things, there is one Desmond Howard, telling Denard Robinson not to let the door hit his backside on the way out. And that he ain't won nothing in Ann Arbor. Son.
Some of these guys just aren't that smart on their feet, and live/realtime forms of communication(live radio, Twitter) just expose them.
Pawwwwl Fiendbaum is going to be brutal with the M/ALA game comming up next year, I might have to switch to NFL for the summer.
His show is horrendous. All he ever talks about is bama. If not that, then how much auburn is inferior to bama.
Bang for buck... Yes and no. U of M is crazy expensive! Worth it to me but if I were an engineer from Georgia or Illinois... Why wouldn't I Just go to GaTech or U of I?
Funny you say that. When I was selecting colleges, Illinois gave me a full scholarship (and I was in- state to begin with). Michigan offered me nothing. My parents (both highly educated scientists) said that Illinois's offer still wasn't worth passing up Michigan. Michigan is a powerhouse (but I didn't want to do engineering).
Damn you and your anecdotal evidence. Jk. I'd prefer that my theoretical kids go to u of m, but I can't for certain say that shelling out 2-3 times the cost would be completely worth it (looking at it from a professional career opportunity perspective)
...an in-stater like me and your parents make too much for schollies but not enough to pay tuition without a second thought the value represented by the University of Michigan is really hard to look past for many degree programs.
The other cool thing for a lot of in-state folks is that it's far enough from home, but not so far that you have to deal with complete and total culture shock. It's also nice having fairly convenient access to the family support system because a lot of us, me included, simply aren't ready to be totally 100% independent in our late teens.
Have been doggin' on Michigan since the game-well actually since they started. It's entertainment for me because they-and people like Tim Stoudt- continuously talk about how Michigan is no longer relevant, but they canNOT stop talking about them or obsessing over them. Hilarious and proof they are in fact jealous of the success as well as obsessed with the program. MSU is a stepping stone. Michigan is a destination.
Chris Tucker is at his most mouthy version short of his so bad its good turn on the "Fifth Element".
Zhang Ziyi looking extra tough - not enough of her in the film and too bad she's chosen to concentrate on more serious drama, because she could actually do all of that martial arts stuff.
they weren't Sirius. :)
What do you expect from a guy who's program has been put on double secret probation?
Tell Eddie George that the food at his restaurant on Chittenden and High St is terrible, because it is. Also, the pictures on the front of the restaurant feature George against ND, I'm curious if only beating Michigan once in his career has anything to do with that?
Then remind him about the game in 1995, and tell him how awesome it was....well, not for him of course.
i wouldn't get so worked up about being "back." Michigan players have been quoted as being "back" while Hoke wouldn't.
If Michigan being back means having a punishing defense, it's still two recruiting classes away from having that type of talent and depth.
If Michigan being back means having a power offense, it's still two seasons away from implementing it with Gardner/Morris. (Borges did call the 2011 offense a "makeshift" offense.)
If Michigan being back means winning the Big Ten, it hasn't been back since 2004.
I say just win. Beat the teams that are inferior, put Sparty back into their place, beat rivals more often than not, and beat some national powers. Michigan is definitely moving in the right direction and it's fun again... and back to the norm again.
I don't agree that those guys are stupid to limit this statement to wins and losses on the football field when they are on a college football radio show discussing a college football coach's answer to a presser question that was clearly about Michigan's football team and not the university as a whole.
Oh Noes!!! Someone on a radio sports talk show said something that disrespected my team!!
Get used to it.
I think when the media talks about you after a good season is what we have all wanted for the past 4 years. Nobody is ever going to talk "nice" about us and thats how I like it.
People hate us because we are great program that has the biggest and best stadium in the the country and the best uniforms. We have the most wins etc....
Once you put on the maize and blue colors you better learn how to get thick skin quick.
Everyone just needs to sit back and just smile because we are back to what we should be the hunted.
Should be an SI cover. With the denard y u mad photo.
that is all
Eddie George has won a Heisman Trophy and that means you must tune into this show, listen to his comments and agree with his opinions.
Wait, what? It doesn't mean that? Oh, then fuck him.
I hear that
I'm not sure where else to put this. It crosses a lot of the posts about us being BCS worthy and "back" and all the other fairly negative media we've been getting.
Michigan may have gotten the BCS bid in part because we are Michigan. We have the history, the brand, the helmets, the great story. Michigan is a great story. We've always been here, and the proof is the intense scrutiny we get over everything we do, good or bad. That's the price we pay for being Michigan. We get the good press and the bad press. Cases in point: Practice gate and Rich Rod. The press was unrelenting and merciless. If this had happened to MSU, the heat wouldn't have been turned up as high on them nationally.
So when MSU players gripe about not getting the national spotlight like we do, they should count it as a blessing. Given the ski mask incident, I would i magine a bright spotlight on them wouldn't be a good thing. And to Eddie George, that we never left is true. Which may or may not be a good thing. No matter what we do, we have to endure the scrutiny. That's the price of being Michigan.
I listened to that show for two minutes yesterday and turned it off. Wasn't interested in listening to a three hour hate-fest. Eddie George, a supposed college football talk show host, admitted that he didn't even watch the Sugar Bowl. Instead, he and his son watched YouTube highlights of his career. Tells you all you need to know about this guy and his worthless opinions.
eddie george is so full of himself. i remember watching his show on the big ten network. and i swear he mentioned he was a heismen winner about 2 times every show. what a douche.
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Perfectly applicable in the most unlikely of ways.
....that Eddie George's criteria for Michigan "being back" would either be unrealistic or, indeed, impossible to attain on a consistent basis anyway. To that end, I will disregard his opinion.
Man, if you're gonna get irritated by what others say about our program, you're going to live a long and arduous life.
If we had just won the National Championship, there would STILL be people ripping on Michigan. To hell with them. They don't matter.
among moronic half-grown football boys. Who gives the tiniest what Eddie George thinks? In these people's minds college athletics long since ceased to be about millions of kids having fun on a field and became the big business that OSU has hurried it into being.
Yes ESPN, two SEC teams are probably better, with all their oversigned players, than all the others this year. (They just happen to be the two teams that do the most oversigning, who have the highest-paid coaches, etc; what does that tell us?) Does this mean that all the people who love their schools and enjoy watching kids play should stop? Blow me, chumps.
Let's start taking this shit back; we can begin by turning off talk radio and letting these weenies die the mediocre death they deserve. Better things to do with our lives, no? Eddie F'ing George, my ass.
Why worry about them. OSU had to start calling themselves THEE Ohio State U to feel good about themselves. When did this happen? Have you ever been to Columbus? Last time MSU had anything really going on was the mid 60's when Afro americans couldnt attend Texas and other schools. How do you think they ended up with Bubba Smith? Michigan has good kids coming in and look to be good for a long time.
Bill King and Chris Childers are the only reasons to listen to that channel, unless you are a 'Bama fan. Bill got moved to 6-9 AM and Childers is now on at night. They are both head and shoulders above any other goofs on that channel.
Eddie George and Mark Packer are your typical conventional wisdom spewers, filling hour and hours with their arrogance, ignorance and stupidity.
Listen to Petros and Money on Fox Sports, Petros is really knowledgeable about college football and brings a nice west coast flavor to it. And they are funny as hell.
...100% on Petros & Money. I was listening to them via podcast before they went national. Couldn't stand our local drive.
FWIW, Petros made a bold prediction for 2012 last night when he said that Michigan and USC would meet in the Orange Bowl next year for the National Championship. Cue the heads exploding in the SEC, he took a call from a guy in MS of course who sounded like a reject from Finebaum.
And I couldn't agree more about Bill King, he is extremely knowledgeable, fair and spares no sacred cows.
I listen to Bill King everyday, and I have to say it's quite refreshing to hear a radio talk show host that is as close to unbiased as they come. Not only that, but the majority of his callers are at least sane (when compared to most radio callers.
I also used to really enjoy college football playbook with Jack Arute and Mike Leach...but then Leach left :(
P.S. Bill King has an ipod app if you want to stream the show or listen to it after the fact, or you can listen online live or later. Website/ipod app are 'billisking'. Free sign up for quality college sports radio? I think so.
His show is a complete contrast to Paul Finebaum, he an his callers annoy me to no end. Bill King is awesome. Not everyone likes him around here but he drops a lot of national college football knowledge on my ears every morning.
....who hosted a college football show for 9 years this thread is pretty much spot on when it comes to local sports talk radio.
If I can get a show...ANYONE can get a show. By no means to do I want to paint everyone in the "biz" with the same brush, but local sports talk radio today (for the most part) is a laughable.
I hosted my show for 9 years all with the same sponsor. When the economy tanked so did his business and he could no longer afford to sponsor the show. I'm not a salesman (nor do I play one on TV) and honestly make my living at my real job and didn't feel like spending every waking hour kissing somoenes ass to sponsor what was basically a glorified hobby.
The new local sports talk radio (for the most part) works like this...if you've got the money to get on the air (regardless of your talent level) some local stations will allow you on. Radio revenues are tanking faster than ever and sales managers will go to extreme lengths to increase revenue.
For example one of the shows I produced (errrrr ran the board for in my early days) was a horse racing handicapping show. The host was truuurible, sounded awful and couldn't pronounce 98% of what he was trying to articulate. But they let him on the air because he paid $375 an hour to talk. He's been on the air now for almost 10 years not because anyone is listening (ratings are awful), but because he pays his bills ontime.
Don't get me wrong, guys like Sam Webb hands down deserve a seat at the table (I tune in the podcast daily). And there are more like him in other markets, but witnessing this industry first hand and seeing what goes on "behind the dial", there are local guys getting paid next to nothing to do the am/pm drive while others (mostly on the weekends) are paying their way on with little to no real "journalism" experience.
I'm sure guys like Eddie George come with a wealth of game experience, but when it comes to the wild west that is sports talk radio, his lack of journalistic integrity tends to shine through.
The biggest thing I took away from my nine years behind the mic is that I was able to remove myself from being a "fan". While I bleed blue, I was able to be critical at the same time and it's helped me to watch the game with a completely different perspective today. I think to many local sports talk radio personalities (specifically the younger ones) allow the fan in them to overshawdow the "journalist" part of the job.
I guess (to some degree), you could put me in that "amature" category when it came to sports talk radio, but unlike most in this business I knew when to say when.
beating Iowa, MSU and Wisconsin again, opinions will probably change on this.
The first mistake was listening to windbags like Eddie George or Robert Smith in the first place. Who on this planet honestly waits with bated breath on their opinions?
If anything, this validates the argument that Michigan is "back." Michigan is no longer the punchline it was the past few seasons...and that scares the shit out of OSU fans.
I could care less what Sirius-radio personalities have to say about UM. Did Michigan struggle a bit the last 4-5 years? Sure. Heck, Texas has been a veritable crater for the past couple of years - does that make them irrelevant? How about Florida, they of the 8-5, 7-6 records the past couple of years, with few signs of dramatic improvement ahead? Or how about USC, which hasn't played in a bowl game for the past couple of years and was treading water a bit since their Rose Bowl win against PSU in 2008?
Teams have their ups and downs - Michigan just happened to have their first sustained rough patch in 40+ years recently. They seem well on their way back, and while I expect a regression next season to 8-9 wins, this team is going to be a player going forward nationally for the rest of our lifetimes.
Great measured response.
The school is terrific. Team strength comes and goes. It is easy to forget that after Tom Harmon there was a long down period - with a lot of 50% teams. The Fifties saw the rise of OSU and MSU and that pattern remained largely that way until Bo came in. So there was a about a 20 year period where Michigan wasn't that good a football team.
But that was the time of incredible developments and expansion on campus from Harlan Hatcher to Harold Shapiro. The school became really a great national school and the notion that it was a "public ivy" and on par of any of the great national schools became not just a self-congratulatory piece of propaganda but reality. That is really what a lot of the fans and alumni of the other Big Ten schools didn't always appreciate. Yes, football and big money sports were never the same after Bo and Don Canham but the school as a whole became bigger and better.
Some of the confusing misguided and mis-aimed emotion after the PSU scandal broke relates to this point. PSU's football rise occurred with a rise in the quality of PSU as a school in general and the whole local community there felt a tangible link. IF UM football went back down or see sawed up and down, sure people would be disappointed and mad, but as a school, it has long moved on to a point that it doesn't need to have a good team to have know what Michigan means or is about. IF the only way someone can have an interest in a school is if it is a regular contender for the MNC, then they just didn't get much out of the classroom time.
Not many, but a couple on this thread agreed that UM had actually disappeared for a while and to that I would say:tell that to Mike Martin, RVB, David Molk and all the other guys who have been here over the past few years. Perhaps Hoke said what he did because he knew saying anything else would be disrespectful to those who have been here during that time.
Think about it...what does that say to them. What would it mean to you if you gave your blood, sweat and tears for a program that people said essentially disappeared over the past 4 years.
UM's record wasn't up to its normal standard, but the spirit and essence of Michigan football was stiil here in all its glory in the form of the young men who put on that winged helmet and gave their all for this university while persevering through some of the most tumultuous times in the programs history. That is more what Michigan football is than simply their record, and Hoke was right...It hadn't gone anywhere.
Screw Eddie George, nobody cares what that douche thinks...but for UM fans to buy in to the idea that UM had gone somewhere over the past few years is disgusting and disrespectful to these players in my books.
fans is they actually think they are going to win the next 8 in a row.
The last 10 years has completely clouded their understanding of what the ohio/michigan rivalry is about and how its played out over the long haul.
Also they're just douche bags and are never worthy of any seriousl discussion that involves using more than 10 brain cells.
I was listening to the show when billy packer mentioned the Hoke quote. Eddie George said that Hoke was a great coach and he loved Hoke. He mentioned how he got to spend some time chatting with Hoke up in NY at the college HOF. George disagreed with Hoke saying where has Michigan been the last seven years when OSU was winning B10 titles. Michigan has been a bottom feeding B10 team. I wouldn't take it personally. Billy and Eddie like to ruffle the feathers of popular teams because it helps get more callers attention. They were talking strictly in regards to football and not the school as a whole. Personally, I won't consider Michigan truly back until we win a Big10 championship.
We just won a BCS bowl. I wouldn't be too Proud of losing two bad rose bowl games to USC. The Texas game was a great game but taking all 3 appearances as a whole, those are disappointing performances that gave those seasons a bad after taste.
Winning the big ten is necessary, but not the only thing we need to do.
Maybe someone could ask Eddie if he gets a nervous twitch everyday at 3:13?
I've learned to stop caring about it. Nobody ever gives the credit Michigan deserves...11-2 was by far an overachievement and people still try to discredit the accomplishment. Oh, they're not back. Even though they were saying that if Michigan wins they would be back. And then they said that it doesn't count because it was ugly. Well, no body seems to care that LSU got outplayed against Alabama but still won somehow 9-6.
At the end of the day, whether Michigan was as talented or not as previous teams, they still did something that NOT A SINGLE MICHIGAN TEAM has done since 2000. That's over a decade. If that isn't "back" I don't know what is. So when a person says they're not back...well, eff 'em. Because the scoreboard said 23-20.
It's on the same level as folks claiming that beating a 6-5 OSU team doesn't mean anything. Even though OSU didn't seem to care when they beat bad-to-mediocre 3-8, 5-6, and 7-4 Michigan teams. They never said it didn't matter. They don't conveniently leave those out when they say they beat Michigan for 7 straight years. MSU doesn't seem to care that their 4-game win streak was 3 years of the worst Michigan teams ever followed by a first year coach halfway into his first seaosn. So, why should we care when folks try to discredit the label 2012 BCS SUGAR BOWL CHAMPIONS.
All I know is that I ordered a hat that says those very words on it. And it doesn't have an asterisk. I will wear it proudly, and will confidently confront/dismiss any who think Michigan didn't "deserve" it.
When people talk about 'relevance', I assume they mean a team is a national title contender. In that sense, Michigan has not been relevant since September 1st, 2007. Even this year when Michigan was undefeated going into the Michigan State game, nobody was talking about national title aspirations for Michigan. Michigan indeed left the national title hunt for the duration of Rich Rod's tenure (this might be something of an understatement). In my opinion, Michigan is still not back to being a national title contender, even after this season. They don't have the talent to compete with the best teams. Michigan's wide receivers couldn't create separation from VT, their defensive line has only one returning starter, and their secondary is still in need of a talent upgrade.
In 1997, Michigan won the national championship. In every year 1998-2005, Michigan was ranked in the preseason top 10 in at least 1 poll. In 2006 they started out at #14, but no one can deny that Michigan was nationally relevant in that year. In 2007, Michigan was preseason #5. In every year since 1997, Michigan was expected to compete for the national title and the expectation always was that Michigan would be very good. It didn't always turn out that way (frankly, it usually didn't), but the perception always was there that it was possible for Michigan to run the table.
Michigan's still not back there yet. To MGoBlog nuts who know Michigan's depth chart, recruiting rankings, who read the UFR's and see how essential Molk, Martin, and Van Bergen are to this team, it's obvious that the roster next year is not one of a team that would be expected to go toe to toe with Alabama and contend for the national championship. But frankly, that is totally missing the point of this season.
This season, to me, is about the seniors. It's about those who chose to stay, through three different coaches and four different defensive coordinators, through the most crushing and embarrassing losses in Michigan history, through the streak. How after 2007 the seniors chose to break apart but in 2011 they chose to come together. It's about perseverance and toughness and character. And then, finally, they were rewarded with a tremendous season.
Just imagine, if Hoke had said something like this:
It's great that people are saying we're back...but it's kind of, where have they been the last two or three years? These kids have been wearing the same helmets...
cf., Bacon, J.; Three and Out, Rich Rodriguez and the Michigan Wolverines in the Crucible of College Football, p. 429.
A guy could get "reprimanded" for that.
SURE, but what does RICH ROD think about all this?
I remember Eddie George's Heisman season. I remember the Michigan-Ohio State game that year. I remember seeing a fantastic back who carried his team to victory with his consistent and spectacular play.
But I don't think that back's name was Eddie George. He had a weird name that was hard to pronounce.
I remember that guy because he was wearing this awesome helmet and was playing in the biggest stadium in the country and every time he or his teammates scored we would sing the greatest fight song in the country. And then I remember many more years, without any break in between, of that same helmet and same fight song and same building and same pride. Sometimes that team lost some games but it never left the front page, never left the consciousness of all around, never stopped believing in itself, never stopped running a program and never stopping striving toward ideals and never stopped operating with the competency that has made it the envy of every other school. You might even say it never left.
through all that Big Ten/AA talent. That was one special day...
Boycott the Eddie George Grill! I can get better steaks half a dozen places in the town.
...there will be 14 teams with 2 losses or less this season, and Michigan is one of them.
...there will be 8 teams from BCS conferences who were eligible for the postseason with 2 losses or less this season, and Michigan is one of them.
...and osu is in none of these categories.
In 2010, osu finished the season 5 games ahead of Michigan (11-1 vs. 7-6), pryor to the NCAA adjusting their record to 0-1.
In 2011, Michigan finished the season 5 games ahead of osu (11-2 vs. 6-7), punctuated by the 40-34 win.
Sorry, Eddie, but folks can't even ask if osu is back next year, since they're in timeout. When my kids got sent to timeout, they were gone (we did a minute for each year they were old). Since Ohio Agricultural and Mechanical College is 142, you'll be gone for over two hours. But let's just round it up to 12 games. And if you behave yourself in 2013, and don't bring LOIC down upon yourself while on probation, and Urban isn't sick or retired, and maybe you make a bowl game even after losing The Game, then we'll make a note to send Mark May to your stinkin' restaurant on New Years 2014 to ask you and the coach if your cheatin' school is back.