For what it's worth, I like your recaps of Michigan Monday. If there is some kind of vote or something, I say keep posting them.
i refuse to even consider this a possibility
For what it's worth, I like your recaps of Michigan Monday. If there is some kind of vote or something, I say keep posting them.
than 95% of the stuff that's been posted lately.
The recap and link are nice.
than the original.
Michigan's offense still has plenty of work to do if they are going to beat Purdue in the Big Ten Championship Game.
This is a fairly funny line indeed :)
Can't really argue about the shots at brandon and his scheduling (I think brandon has done a great job outside of scheduling). Scheduling Air Force the week after Alabama just wasn't a good idea. Then next year we play App St again and that is just a lose-lose situation
We play Appalachian State in 2014.
I agree with everything a bucknut has to say?!
Don't be dissin' DB.
Of course he did change our school colors from maize and blue to hazard sign yellow.
The highlighter yellow introduction happened well before Brandon's arrival.
Just curious, when did it happen? It is not recent.
My first game at Michigan Stadium was in 1982. I rememeber thinking the first time I saw the team in person, "Man that yellow is bright."
Yet through the mid-70's at least, it was more of an orangy-yellow.
If Dave Brandon thinks we should take on Alabama, USC, Oklahoma or LSU, at least he's got gut's. A recent thread talked about how we measure up against Arizona. No offense to AZ, but that kind of thinking leads nowhere.
Coach Hoke believes Michigan is an elite program, and I agree. We measure ourselves against the best. Our courageous young athletes will take on the challenge. My prayers and cheers and support are with them. Go blue!
Unnecessary Flamebait, Take 1
Edit: unnecessary flamebait, take 2
My apologies for wasting your time.
I don't think it's guts that leads him to those decisions.
At any rate, I'm pretty sure the Air Force game wasn't his doing but something he inherited. Nevertheless, it was still a small part of a brutal slate for 2011 that shouldn't have made him ever entertain booking that date in Dallas.
This isn't Nickelodeon...DB needs to make smarter decisions on scheduling. This means, yes, more big-time opponents like Alabama, but the one-two punch of Bama-AFA was almost too much.
Same thing with The Horror II. Totally unnecessary game, and he's loving all the negative attention. Sometimes I think DB is just an attention whore. He does do some great stuff for us, though.
He points that 'ole marketing cannon at anything that moves. Sometimes he scores a big hit like UTL, sometimes he fratricides his own guys with Unifromz. That's just the fun of the wild ride he takes us on.
the Michigan take on the OSU take on Michigan football.
Thanks for posting as it pains me too greatly to visit the OSU site.
"Yes, Air Force rushed for 290 yards against Michigan, but it took them 71 carries to get there. That's barely four yards per carry, and against a triple-option team that you can't really simulate, that's not too bad."
This should provide folks with some minor comfort regarding the defense anyway. On a high level, it probably didn't look like what the numbers say, but we did make them work a lot harder than normal to get those 290 yards and we kept them to mostly subpar AFA statistics on offense. In relative terms, we did OK here against the triple option the 11 billion looks that AFA gives it. While there is obviously work to do, I agree with him that it is hard to define this defense given the first two games this season.
Good, thoughtful analysis really. I can't believe I went to a Buckeye site either.
Since when did people get so surprised at the presence of Michigan Monday on mgoblog? It has been posted here most Monday's (sometimes tuesday) for the past few years, at least.
What has me a bit confused is the "I was very opposed to Dave Brandon finalizing the Alabama deal..." quote coming from a Buckeye. Why does Gerdeman care enough to be "very opposed" to what games Michigan schedules?
Something we don't feel for little brother.
I really like the recaps, and they stop me from giving page hits to that terrible website.
So let me get this straight?
Our top-of-the-country rushing attack last year was not the result of Lewan, Schofield, Omameh, or Barnum, but of Molk and *Huyge*?? Let's be real here.
Molk was a huge, huge, huge loss. Anytime he went down our offense completely stalled. We went from the #1 center in the NCAA to converted center because Molk's backup is THAT bad. Remember what happened the few plays Molk had to go out for during the Sugar Bowl. Our O went to shit.
Little nitpick: Khoury (Molk's replacement in the Sugar Bowl) only played one series. The first play we gained five yards, but then the next two plays his shotgun snaps were wild. If he could have snapped okay, we might have done decently. We put Molk back in because he could snap better, but he had no mobility with his bad ankle.
What's tough now is that not only Molk is gone, but Khoury, who was expected to be his replacement, is also gone. Not many people were expecting Mealer to be starting this year. I don't understand exactly why Khoury didn't return for his fifth year.
Another thing, Mr. Bucknut. We're fans. We have a Constitutional right to second guess our AD. But don't think for one minute anyone in their right mind would trade Dave Brandon for Gene Smith. Okay, so DB has an inordinate fondness for bad acid trip fluorescent yellow. GS allowed Tressel to betray the young men he was responsible for, and then supervised the con game cover up.
DB is going to be governor, if he wants to. Maybe president. GS will be darn lucky to get out of Columbus without seeing the wrong side of the bars.
So Mr. Bucknut, get rid of that Word 98, dial up modem, word processor you bought at the thrift shop, and get the crayons your therapist suggested. You'll do less damage, and be a lot happier in the long run.
Troll on bro. Troll on.
I really don't understand the amount of complaining about scheduling Bama and Air Force. If you want to be considered with the best, you need to play the best, period. So we got waxed by Bama, big deal. In 3 years, we won't get waxed. This only helps wake up the team in the long run.
What would be better? Scheduling 2 or 3 baby seals to open the season instead? Whether we like it or not, the B1G is a piss poor conference at this point and having a strong OOC schedule goes a long way with voter's perception, IMO.
I think the reasoning is two-fold. First, the perception is that we knew when these games were rescheduled that Michigan was likely to still be rebuilding. So scheduling a 2012 season opener against a national power seemed premature.
Second, Air Force has a unique offense that we won't see again this season - certainly not in the B1G. They put up a lot of yards on teams and are difficult to defend. And defending them requires different skills and assignments than our typical defensive schemes. While it may be fine to provide Michigan one challenge in the non-conference schedule, it seems a bit reckless to have a game like this on the heels of a neutral-site game against Bama.
Put together, you have Michigan facing a test against Bama they were almost sure to lose, followed up by a team that is notoriously difficult to prepare for and whose offense we'll not see again any time soon. There's not much profit in that plan.As the Bucknut guy noted, we're fortunate to have gotten through this gauntlet 1-1.
And props to the OP - hearing no nay votes I think the motion is carried and you should continue posting these recaps.
In regards to the Bama game, wasn't Alabama the one who initiated the game?
I don't want this to seem like anything other than an honest inquiry, but why does that matter? Both schools need to agree to the game and the contractual details (e.g., home-and-home vs. neutral site, payouts, etc.).
I don't recall how the game was first booked. I could be wrong, but I thought Saban requested Michigan as an opponent. I think it is different if DB accepted a game, which was akin to a bowl in game in early September, than scheduling a home and away with Bama like Penn State did. I think you take that offer every time, regardless of how where you think your program is at the time.
I understand that thought process, but it still doesn't strike me as anything but whining. How does playing AF not help? It's experience with another skill set the team would have otherwise probably never seen. Not to mention, there's more to it than X's and O's sometimes. Just my 2 cents though/
Also, what it sounds like your saying with Bama is: don't schedule a team if you don't think you can win/I'm going to take my ball and go home mentality. Not a fan of that.
How does playing against a skill set that the team will almost certainly not play against this year again help the team develop?
Taking on cut blocks isn't going to help? Hmmmm
Is all about assignments and discipline. Which is important for every game. You can get by on just athleticism vs. Cupcake U., but you're going to have to do the former to beat good teams. This showed the players they have to do that even against so-so teams.
I never said "don't schedule a team if you don't think you can win" and sure didn't mean to imply that. I said the reasoning is that you don't schedule a game against a unique (cut blocking and multiple option) team a week after what's sure to be a physically punishing game against a national power. It's the decision to schedule these games sequentially that's a source of irritation for many.
BTW, I like the fact that we played Air Force in the sense that it's good to play (and have a chance to honor) the service academies. I just wouldn't have put it on the heels of what was likely to be the most challenging game of the year (at least until November).
Bama was scheduled to be in Rich's 5th year, not Hoke's 2nd. If you think we should pull out because things didn't work out, I guess you can, but that probably looks worse than a beating. It worked out to be bad timing, but I don't know how anyone could have known at the time.
And I've said below where it adds an advantage to the rest of the season. But everyone has missed one big advantage...it was a more interesting game than Whatsamatta U. I worry about statements like "hile it may be fine to provide Michigan one challenge in the non-conference schedule, it seems a bit reckless to have a game like this on the heels of a neutral-site game against Bama. " Because it sounds like one wants to play one tough game, and then a bunch of patsies. And then when the schedule is ND, two MAC teams, and a lower division team, people complain how boring the games are, what they're paying for them, how they can't resell their tickets to these games and have to give them away, and how much the home schedule sucks. That was the popular view this year...the home schedule sucks. So one of the OOC games is TOO good now...where does that leave one for scheduling? It's damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Dave Brandon knew when the deal was made (Summer 2010) that there was a good chance there would be a coach in his first or second season at Michigan.
At that time he seemed to go out of his way to tell people that RR's job status was "under evaluation." Not exactly a vote of confidence.
He'll definitely be back." Then that season happens, and its "Oops, nevermind..." Or "he's out of here!" and somehow the season doesn't tank and he wins 10 games and then "Oh, changed my mind...we really want you here!"
Frankly winning one more of the right games that year and he's probably still the coach. Even if any game that mattered at the end was close it might have been different. Hindsight after a bad year is a wonderful thing.
I have no problem with scheduling Alabama (well, a home and home would have been better). It was scheduled to be a high profile game at a time Brandon expected Rodriguez's team to be rounding into top shape. Things obviously didn't work out that way. C'est la vie. But voluntarily scheduling a cut blocking triple-option team, when we don't face another similar team all year a week after what was sure to be a physically imposing game, that was dumb.
I emphatically do not support Mr. Bucknut's analysis of Dave Brandon. He should look at his own AD.
For the millionth time, Brandon did not schedule this game. That was Bill Martin. And if I recall correctly, it was scheduled early in the Rich Rod era, when pretty much everyone assumed he was going to be staying until at least 2012, and by then we would be good.
It didn't quite work out that way obviously. I'm over it.
The Air Force game was scheduled in Jan 2011, so it was definitely under Brandon's watch. The Alabama game was as well.
EDIT: I was referring to the Alabama game, not Air Force. My bad.
Brandon scheduled Alabama. He was hired in Jan. 2010. Brian broke the news of the game in August 2010.
For the millionth time, YOU'RE WRONG! Dave Brandon took over in January of 2010, was approached about it over the summer, and they signed the contract in October of 2010
Announcement (October 2010): http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101410aaa.htm
When ESPN and the Cowboys Stadium organization pitched the game to Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon, it was a financial reach.
At the time of the 10/14/10 announcement, we were 5-1, Denard was amazing and all over the Heisman early watch lists, and people were salivating about what he'd be like in his senior year. I'm sure at the time DB scheduled the game that he didn't envision the team going 2-5 the rest of the way and having to replace RR at the end of the season and have the Bama game be in year 2 of a new coach. So, at the time the trigger was pulled, things were looking pretty rosy in 2010, so I salute the scheduling of the Bama game.
Air Force was scheduled on Jan 28, 2011 per http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/012811aac.html. At that time we hadn't scheduled UMASS yet and we had open dates on 9/8, 9/15, and 9/29 on the calendar. So, scheduling the triple option a week after facing Alabama was incredibly stupid and I blame DB for that. I'd have much rather played AFA on the 15th instead of the 8th. I am glad he scheduled the service academy though in general, I have much respect for our military so props to him for that.
If I remember right, when Alabama was announced, people all over this blog were thrilled with the prospect of playing Alabama with Denard as a senior. I don't remember chatter about Air Force or their position in our schedule.
I think people are generally mad because Michigan isn't dominating like we want them to. You can't schedule a couple of great matchups 3 years from now, hope your team will improve by then, and then be mad when your team isn't as good as you want them to be. Looking back, of course it would have been better to schedule Air Force on 9/15 instead of after Alabama. But if we were really good, it wouldn't matter. You can't blame Brandon for a tough schedule when he expects to field a great football team.
Wow, not sure how I misremembered that. I guess I'll take my lumps for that one. My apologies.
While cut-blocking is a technique I'm glad we are not likely to see again this year, seeing AFA's triple option was probably a great opportunity to build some skills that will be useful later on.
Consider: how likely is our D going to be fooled by anyone else's half-hearted attempts at misdirection, options, counters, etc. this year? AFA sends so many looks, that there isn't a likely scenario our coaches and team haven't seen now, and we're only headed to Week 3. Could be invaluable experience.
EDIT: Dagnabit, this was meant as a response to Lionsfan. I've got to be more careful to hit reply and not put up a new post.
Mgoblue link no longer exists - could this be a dark plot by the AD to remove anything that could be negative? Probably not. Nonetheless, I am reminded that links don't also last forever. The Internet is a wonderful thing, but there is no paper trail, and things just . . . disappear sometimes.
Regardless, DB was responsible for both games. I think some of the confusion comes because it was initially assumed that RR would be competing for the MNC by 2012, and that we could keep up with, nay, dominate? Alabama on the field. Those assumptions, in retrospect, are . . . quaint. What were we smoking? Anyway, when the game was scheduled, I don't think that a new coach, let alone Hoke, was on anyone's radar. Obviously, you wouldn't schedule Alabama for a new coach. No one fully understood the train wreck that was recruiting, especially line recruiting, under RR. In August 2010 the Gerg disaster was not yet understood. It is painful to even recall.
FTR, I personally would have been supportive of Alabama, or Air Force, but not both back-to-back. For that matter, I think Alabama and the AFA back to back in 2014 or 2015 wouldn't be so terrifying. However, you have to make schedules up long before you can see those kinds of things.
I've jumped in the Air Force thread about...but has Brian really complained about the Air Force game being scheduled? I know he doesn't like Bama, and there are legit reasons for not scheduling it (having to do with home games, and such) but not being ready isn't one of them. I'm sure if he doesn't like it, he blames Brandon, but I don't recall him being up in arms about there being too good of an OOC schedule.
I don't know that our Offensive line is terrible yet. We shall see. Denard didn't have to dodge 11 guys to get all those yards...he had a little help.
Ryan made some mistakes too, and I'm not ready to crown him anything, but he's shown a lot of promise. And he hardly did anything single-handedly at the end. He made plays, but others had to be in their assignments for him to make the play. (And at least one he wasn't the only guy there tackling).
Norfleet only returns a kick for a TD if we face kickers outside of UMass who can't kick it deep into the endzone.
Is he channeling Brian or could it be....I mean has anyone ever seen Brian Cook and Tony Gerdeman together in the the same place at the same time?