Here was the pick-me-up I needed after that awful Tigers game.
Keep the Hoke magic rolling.
well that's just, like, your opinion, man
Here was the pick-me-up I needed after that awful Tigers game.
Keep the Hoke magic rolling.
Hmmmn. In this scenario, I don't mind taking the leftovers.
Priest Willis is also has USC in his top 2, so it might makes things even better for us.
USC is more than the presumed leader, he actually tweeted recently - within the last week or so - that USC is his leader.
They are going to have a small class this year, and they likely have one spot open, and they lead for several top defensive backs. I'd be surprised if a defensive back spot is open when he makes his decison
His Ohio visit was really just a courtesy visit and he wasn't really blown away by it.
How many more recruits can USC take?? We have 2 more to make 24..Anyone know where to find this stuff online
USC has 3 spots left. They have 15 commitments and 18 spots.
Rivals, Scout, ESPN, 247...
Where on the sites does it say how many scholarships they have availible.. I can count recruits, i think..But, I am not going to count 85 names on each team to see how many available.. Plus a lot of teams have scholly losses such as Ohio and USC.... But no shitting, I am serious
What's an asprin regiment?
Remember when Ronald Johnson went to USC and we got Donovan Warren. Could USC be giving us another gift?
Not really sure we need to concern ourselves with signing another DB. All I'm really concerned with at this point is Treadwell. It'd be nice to get Green as well but we can always pick up an elite back in next years class.
This guy is a 5* to all four recruiting services IIRC. That's no player to scoff at.
Agreed. You don't turn down the #1 CB across all 4 sites.
We need Treadwell or another very good to great receiver. The last open spot is really for "best guy we can get, regardless of position". Vernon really seems to fit that bill if he's actually interested.
But it sounds like Treadwell and Green are more coveted at thinner positions, based on current commits.
I wholeheartedly agree with Treadwell, we need a blue chip wide receiver to make this a great class. However, I don't really believe we are that weak with running backs (we already have two 4-star backs in this class, and with this offensive line, I'm fairly certain that I could run for at least 500 yards). The last spot could, in my opinion, go to any of the highly touted players we are currently recruiting hard—McQuay, Green, Hargreaves, Baily and Fuller. And if a guy like Hargreaves wants to commit and we have a spot, I don't know many coaches who would turn him away.
I'd be surprised if he doesn't eventually sign with one of those Florida schools. Its still early on in the recruiting game, though! We've been spoiled by all these early commits! Personally, I'd love to get more help on the d-line.
But there doesn't seem to be anyone left on the board. Also, Hoke's love for the "flexible" running back seems to point to Green or another Norfleet type, IMHO.
He's a downhill runner who shouldn't be expected to catch anything out of the backfield. He excels between the tackles, not running downfield.
You are aware that he is a bulldozer that runs somewhere between a 4.3-4.4 40, right? Is that not flexible enough to be a downhill runner? I would guess that's why Rivals has him as the #1 RB in this class. I'm not saying he IS the best, but I don't think Rivals has him there for his goal line/short yardage situational ability.
that his hands are not suited to catching out of the backfield, as stated over and over again by analysts explaining his rather dismal performances in camp settings. I also think that you misunderstood me, as I said that his talents are suited to running downhill, between the tackles. His ranking as top running back is also universally derided as being excessive. He's a very good running back, just not the best. Evidently our coaches thought so as well, as evidenced by their primary pursuit of Isaac in lieu of Green.
I did misunderstand you about the downhill part. I may be offtopic again here even though I didn't start on the topic of Derrick Green, but what analysts said those things? I did say I didn't necessarily believe he's the best, but Rivals does. As far as his pass catching ability, Tremendous disagrees with you, giving him a 5, and I remember talk of Isaac AND Green for months on here.
Has he been timed at any of the major camps in 40? He looks fast, but not "4.3-4.4" fast.
4.6 at the opening. I don't think he has been any faster than that if he has been electronically timed at other camps. Still not bad for a 230 lb RB.
I think July 29 might make a nice date for a visit. BBQ it up.
A2 + BBQ + LQ = HELLO.
Love Hoke, but the Stribling offer is really starting to take it's toll.
I don't understand accepting that commitment at all we should have kept a couple of spots open for possible five star talent. Given our class we have that luxury.
Seriously, when will Hoke learn to consult our blog before making such brash moves?
Thanks for the info on Stribling guys. I was under the impression he was good or something.
Burn the boats and fold the program.
Please, no more death penalty talk.
Seriously? Now we can equate stars to work ethic? Man.. next thing you know the star rating will reflect on GPA potential
It's annoying how many peple think recruiting is like it is in video games. 5 stars does not equal success. Stribling came up to Michigan on his own dime and earned his own offer. The coaches were smart enough to get on him before his recruiting blew up. There are many instances of them doing that since they got here. Pipkins, Clark, Conley, Laquon's teeammate from last year who ended up not signing with us, etc... Do you know how Dymonte's recruiting would be right now if he hadn't have commited so early? This staff is smart enough to know that the talent you have is almost always better than the talent you could have in recruiting. Plus, you can never have enough DB's they tend to offer more flexibilty in terms of positions and what defense's you want to run.
If the class turns out to be EXACTLY 24 people, AND if Treadwell, Green, and Hargreaves (who was off our radar until yesterday) ALL try to commit, and we have NO decommits from this current class, AND if it turns out Stribling is a one-legged midget who is so terrible at football that he can barely tie his shoe, then maybe, MAYBE you'll have a point.
But to say "the Stribling offer is really starting to take it's toll" at this point is beyond asinine.
Shan-o-mac doin work still!!! HA!L
Please, no Shane-O-mac. I don't wanna get him confused with this:
Let Hoke and Mattison do there their thing and we'll get him
We have to get over this whole "why did we give stribling a scholarship" thing. Hoke saw him play in front of his eyes for two days, which means he must be the real deal. And this Hargreaves thing is a long long shot, I would not like to see us get rid of stribling to only "hope" that Hargreaves comes here. Hoke knows what he is doing. GO Blue! And go green and treadwell
"go green" again on this board.
long snapper or 5 star DB ..........?
long snapper anyday! jokes aside in Hoke I trust, but real damn hard to on this one
Now that one I will never understand, LS don't need scholarships at all IMO.
You guys act like we can just have our pick of the remaining 5-star and top 4-star talent... if only we had the spots. That's simply not the case. Treadwell may be a lean, but I would consider every one of those other guys long shots.
Plus, let's say we are able to fill the last two spots with two of Treadwell, McQuay, Green, Hargraeves, Bailey, Fuller, etc... are you going to complain that we have a crappy class because we took a LS??
I don't agree we have a crappy class because we got an LS, though I do think we have a better chance with most of those guys then what you think. I do not think any LS is worth a scholarship offer, the most they do is give you a better chance at not turning the ball over with a good snap. Now with any of those other guys they can get us points. LS do not deserve any scholarship but that's just my opinion
"the most they do is give you a better chance at not turning the ball over with a good snap."
If you think that's the most a long snapper does, then forgive me if I don't value your opinion.
Didn't we have a LS who scored a TD or something in a game in January? Not that you expect it, but if dude is automatic on the snaps and is athletic as well?
Jareth Glanda caught a pass in the Sugar Bowl...but didn't quite score.
...And it was slightly less than legal.
What else does a LS do then?
In the course of 5 days, you have managed to get hit for trolling three times. That has to be some kind of record. Just move on. The LS decision was made and whether your agree or not, it isn't going to change. Bitching about it only makes you look silly, because it accomplishes nothing. As BISB clearly pointed out, there is always attrition and the coaches know who/what they want for Team 134. Unless you have a time machine and know that this ultimately is the worst possible decision, relax and let Hoke do what Hoke does. If you do have a time machine, go back to 1999 and remind me not to sleep through my Spanish final. Thanks.
Thinking we're going to get 5 more 5* players who all want to come here have 15, 1861, 9 and 9 points respectively. Correlation is not causation, but.....
I'm pretty sure someone can back me up on this, but I was under the impression that the starting LS was always on scholarship at Michigan. If that's true, what does it matter when he gets it?
Will Heininger said that LS is always on scholarship. That being said, there's a difference between handing a scholarship to the starting LS each year...and giving one to a guy for 4 years. What if Sypniewski doesn't take the job as a true freshman in 2013 and then we have Sypniewski and __________ (presumably Glanda) using scholarship space? That's the main issue I have with promising a recruit a scholarship.
rather blame it on a punter who never had his head in the game.
because snaps are supposed to hit you in the facemask. Obviously Hagerup should have been taller. It's his fault for not being 7' tall. I am sure he worked on that this offseason and is at least 4-6" taller than in this clip.
It was not a perfect snap, I'll give you that...but that's mostly on Hagerup, not Pomarico. We expect receivers to catch passes that are headed for their facemasks. Why can't Hagerup be expected to do the same?
I would be willing to bet good money that if you catch the ball with your hands before it hits your facemask, then it won't hit you in the facemask.
the most they do is give you a better chance at not turning the ball over with a good snap
But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln...
Well, Bailey has already stated that Michigan is not in his leaders anymore, so there goes that one.
Hargreaves, while still interested and recently back on the map, is a total long shot. Its kind of like Cravens. He has already committed to USC, but wants to visit Michigan. Do you really think we have a legit shot with him?
We have our best chance with Treadwell, and I will be shocked/angry if he does not commit. Everyone else you listed is just icing on the proverbial cake.
When did Bailey name a new leader group without Michigan? I know he said distance was a factor, but didn't hear he dropped us.
Also Hargreaves did not commit to USC and is not from southern California, so I don't really equate his situation to Cravens'. Granted I'm not that optimistic from one tweet. Although he did say Shane was better than USC commit Max Browne at the opening. BTW Max Browne is Peyton Manning 2.0, right down to the soft-looking body and love handles.
Regarding all the USC commits, I really feel like kids are reserving spots at this point and there might be some de-commits. I don't think so with Isaac, but maybe some of the more recent ones. Anyone else think Paul Harris might have been turned away?
Well, hell, lost my train of thought
Oh, pickleshoes! I was thinking of Jordan Wilkins. My bad. I haven't had my cup of coffee yet this morning.
On a side note, I saw Sarah Hughes tweeted that WR Eldridge Massington tore his ACL at practice. Would that affect his commitment or scholarship offer to USC, giving the Trojans another spot?
Only if Lane Kiffin is a dick.
He has basically said its Blue, but once he commits he cant go to other schools... I just want to know who is gonna be the last of '13..Not really sure we need another RB, even though Green looks like a stud
Least we have his attention again...I think it's between the domers and Trojans...
True... even if we don't get him, having the concensus #1 DB in the country tweeting positive things about Michigan can only be a good thing.
Has chosen Auburn. Didn't really think we had a shot anyway.
start a nationwide recruiting effort to attract the most beautiful women to Ann Arbor. This will guarantee that every 5 star recruit will at least put the UM on their official visit list - all we have to do is get these guys on campus.
Yeah... and while they are at it maybe they can recruit the Pacific Ocean and the Equator to move a little closer as well...
Just recently got word that the Equator will be making the long trip up to AA for the BBQ. if we can't get a commitment from him this class will be a huge disappointment. What to go along with the Long Snapper and non-consensus 4 star CB. Honestly if we accept a commitment from Treadwell, and then the Equator, the Pacific Ocean, Hargreaves and Cravens all try to commit I'll be furious. Coaching staff is handing out scholarships like candy.