a win tonight and we're # 1 in the nation and # 1 in the big ten
Michigan mens basketball vs. Illinois open thread
a Big Ten road win.
ANOTHER Big Ten road win.
I'm here, a few UM fans coming in...
The quick comparison for the board so you can see roughly how we stack up:
|Offensive Stat Comparison|
|Avg Score Margin||+18.6||+6.3|
|Effective FG %||57.7%||49.7%|
|Off Rebound %||32.5%||33.9%|
Defensive Stat Comparison
|Opp Effective FG %||46.7%||47.8%|
As I just said to my roommate, who is going to be on fire for Illinois? Seems like someone always comes out stroking it from 3 for every team we play.
live stream links out there?
They compared this year's Illinois team to last year's Michgan team. Either they blow out teams or get blown out. Never know what you are going to get. Illinois is dangerous at home. If we beat them, then I think they officially are a second tier team of the big10.
76 - 62 Michigan. Go Blue.
Anyone know of a bar in Marco Island, FL that carries BTN and will show the game?
WW, if you don't get a response AND have access to the internet, use www.thefirstrow.eu
for a live stream. Take care.
Sand Bar in Marco Island looks like they have it. http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g34420-d393160-r122741259-San...
Come on man. Get it together. Only 10 mins til gametime. Do better
Oh my god. Get some Fat Pelicans for me.
Rookies bar and grill may have it, I watched the Purdue football game their last season
when does the first to post a question become redundant? Is the redundancy in asking first or is the second or subsequent identical questtion, clarfication please and thanks.
When it gets asked in every Open Thread for three+ years.
PS: For Future Reference - http://www.firstrow1.eu/
But first row rarely starts on time and sometimes it's nice to find another and I've referenced them in the past via open thread.
Gonna be a close one, par for the course on the road in the B1G. Let's go Blue!!!
Gus Johnson today?
The tipoff. I don't think i have seen them win one all year.
Naw, the team they lost to lost AGAIN today and will fall out of the top 15.
Make it to a BCS bowl one.
They've played nobody except K State. Go bitch about officials you fuckin douche.
Nice, McGary is a great perimeter shooter. Good to know, Mike DeCourcy.
Yeah that guy is a moron.
I wish I could pay for this service separate and watch these games legally.
BTN to go service is -to put it elegantly - a piece of shit.
When the games (football OR basketball) are on a major network you have to wait until 12:00 ET to watch them. Which would be ok if the games were actually available, not the case most of the time.
When the games are only on BTN you can watch them live, but the stream is crappy and it often skips. I can't ever get it to work on my iPad for live broadcasts.
The BTN reminds me of that commercial for monster.com in which a guy worked with a bunch of monkeys.
Firstrow stream not working at tip off AGAIN. ARGGGHHHHH
vipbox stream is up:
For some reason, I get a few pop-ups that I can't "x" out of.
I've tried roving around the borders, clicking in random spaces, highlighting the area, and a few other tricks. I still can't seem to find out how to get the pop-ups off the screen. Any tips
(And yes, I updated my pop-up blocker with Norton recently)
Why are they throwing newspaper?
They hate mother earth. Dirty litterers.
OT: Anyone see Henry Poggis dads Twitter today? Uhhh
BiffPoggi: Until the #Big 10 learns to recruit like the #SEC it will be an irrelevant conference. Good news for #Ohio State
BiffPoggi: Recruiting is a process that takes constant work. The lifeblood of any team. Players win games. #SEC . The reason they as a conference win
They stay on
Sorry but that old bobcats coach is a douche.
What's wrong with him?
Just like people that say Pat Fitzgerald is a douche. There's nothing wrong with getting in the game for YOUR team. They're clearly feeding off his energy.
He made some snide comments to me once at an Outback Steakhouse in Akron.
Wow our defense is coming right along....
The close promixity of the standing students and the crap camera angle is going to get annoying eventually.
Oh damn, Jordan Morgan. Not a great start. Hope he's okay.
That didn't look good
Horford comes back for 1 freakin game and Morgan goes out
Damn, that looks bad. Not good.
Nik with two quick layups. Good to see him attacking.
Over excited announcers are over excited.
Not a good foul, especially with no Morgan...
What is it with our big men and missing layups? Seriously.
nana egwu (correct spelling?) is starting off in the right way. ):
"It's rare to see McGary miss an opportunity"
I love the kid but that's not a true statement.
Somebody yanked the net.
This is the exact same thought that came to mind, have they watched us at all this year? I've seen McGary miss wide open dunks to go along with layups, great upside but he's far from a "consistent finisher" down low.
A couple bad breaks (praying to God that's not a pun) but we have to make these layups if we want to win on the road.
Why do our bigs seeming never finish under the basket consistently? Their like 5 inches from the rim when they shoot.
Good start and way to weather the opening 4 minute storm of being an away team. Hope Jordan is okay, looked like a dirty ankle roll. Mitch is doing well; missed bunny layup was on him but he put himself in bad position with the fake and got under the basket too much. Doing just fine.
dribbling too much, they need to move the ball around.
Now I want to get certified as a personal trainer... Who knew it was so easy and affordable!
Illinois has done a good job keeping UM out on the perimeter offensively, but I think our guys will start to see the openings. Burke's pass to McGary is a nice start.
Jordan Morgan makes me laugh. I really do hope and think that he'll be okay, but something in that goofy ass demeanor of his is very entertaining. Maybe it's just that retro team pic.
Tight. They're up in our grill trying to make it uncomfortable. We have to ATTACK.
dwyane wade couldn't hit that one to save his life earlier today
I read that as Dwayne Wayne the first three times I read it.
That floater is making Morris have nightmares.
Have to stop giving up offensive rebounds.
How are we not getting these defensive rebounds???
Get a fucking rebound. What the hell is going on?
Hate how the student section is situated on the same side as the TV cameras.
The orange penis on the floor
McGary is struggling BAD today.
He's been in for three minutes.
He blew a layup, picked up a bad foul, lost his man who got a offensive board and miscommunicated on a pick and roll.
No one is saying he's a bad player, but when you've got Horford...you can sit him and let him gather himself for a little bit.
Your wish is granted. And good start for Horford.
Damn, we gotta do better on the defensive glass.
Come on guys, rebound.....
The 'I' looks fat in the middle of the court
HORFORD OFF THE BENCH
Good move Al.
Woo, Horford post up!
Nice start for Horford. Nice to see him back especially with JM out.
Jon Horford with a nice lefty baby hook. He brings another element to our big rotation.
Has to be a good sign
The way Illinois is shooting from long range it's crazy to think how hot they started. Some of these shots look awful.
He may be back folks. We need Stauskas' shooting to win this game.
Not difficult for Stauskas.
Stauskas - 7
Illinois - 7
horford is not a puny little kid any more!!!
Canadian Bacon be sizzlin' tonight!
Beautiful shot by Nik
let's tack on to that
gutsy move drawing a charge. He already has 1 foul.
GRIII has a tough matchup tonight
the opponent can't blink or they will be down 10 against this team.
Nice find by Robinson! Canadian Assassin!
Tim needs to simplify it when he puts the ball down. He just can't dribble in traffic no matter how much he works at it.
Zone defense confused the crap out of Illinois there.
dat pass..im very punny.
in champaign-urbana tonight
If we can start getting some DREB's we should be set.
Keep posting up Horford just to embarass Brian.
The offense has been very diverse tonight. I like it.
Brent Petway better watch out...McGary may have the best vertical in UM history. 4"?
Don't take two Excedrin and watch a UM BBall game...heart won't settle down
I thought excedrin was taken off the shelves?
That had to be a goaltend, right?
He got up!
Love how Al is steppin up right now.
Illinois looks awful.
Lol thanks for not calling the goaltend.
Pretty sure it was before it hit the glass and it wasn't over the cylinder.
That Robinson block = sick.
Also, credit Trey for hustling back to slow up the Illini player just enough so Robinson could get there.
Someone needs to GIF up that Robinson block.
Holy shit, that was way downtown.
Robinson! What a block!!
Our offense does not look good right now. Burke with a rough start.
Not to be a dick, but are you ever satisfied with anything?
I was just think we should put Spike in to settle him down, but you got on me about the McGary comment and I got negged (even though Horford came in and played well)...so I kept the comment to myself.
I'd go Spike-THJ-Stauskas-GRIII-Horford.
Then I'd bring Burke and McGary back in for THJ and Horford.
Helps if you turn your TV to Michigan vs. Illinois
take it to the basket big man!
Pride of Mississauga!
He's gonna get T'd up one of these days, but it's still so glorious.
I get giddy when i see white Canadians dunk!
I see you, Stauskas!
Who was the last Canadian pro to dunk? ...I have no idea...isn't Steve Nash Canadian? He can dunk tho, can he!?!
STAUSKAS THROWIN' IT DOWN
Illini is self-check.
Is it just me or does the court look really small? Like 75% of a normal college court.
You've just been Stauskas'd.
Not sure if it a link has been posted yet but since the firstrowsports link still not up, here is one that works:
Weak hand check call. You'd be laughed off most courts for calling that.
Yea. WTF. Aaron Craft lives by that weakness that was called a "foul".
Stauskas is playing with confidence tonight.
Still not up. Ridiculous
This one is.... Also BTN
Pick your poison. I like.
Stauskas: 9, Illinois: 10
We haven't taken advantage of it.
We are in the lead on the road in the Big Ten against a team desperate. I would say we could be in a worse situation.
What is that? It's not even bad D?!
Illinois shooting 50% from 3 point is the recipe for them to win. Hope that cools off a bit.
And just like that, they're down 2.
and here come the 3 ball prayers from Illinois...that apparently go in most of the time. They are us a la 2011-2012
These announcers need to stop acting like every shot is a miracle.
Looks like Illinois is putting a defensive line across the free throw line to stop penetration maybe. Or they're just reacting to our offensive set-up.
I don't like this lineup, at all. Good THJ and McGary in.
anyone know where I could find a Maize & Blue Canadian Flag like the one the Maize Rage displays at home games? Would like to get my hands on a couple of them
wsa hoping to avoid that...
How tall is Bielfeldt?
JB, this is a bad lineup right now. THJ only offensive threat.
Wow, our defense fell asleep on that...
Can we box out, please?
Good lord McGary. Take the ball to the basket!
We can't play defense for shit. It's ugly.
Morgan going out early really hurts.
Yep. So many people don't understand he does ALL the little things very well. They like to focus on the missed shots which, you know, happen for everyone.
Not to mention they only happen to him at a 40%. He still hits a respectable 60% of his shots, even if he does miss some good opportunities.
And hurt us playing McGary and Morgan together which may be the move to get some of these boards.
I still may try Horford and McGary together...we've got to get some rebounds.
We have got to challenge shots more and for the love of @#$%, BOX OUT!!!
It seems to me that Illinois has some very good players, but they are also very undisciplined. Multiple times leaving their feet to pass with no options, and a few passes way off thrown out of bounds. Beilein's disciplined style clearly shows.
It really feels like Michigan should be up a lot more.
Burke needs to get it going. He's been nonexistant so far.
That is all.
YEEEESSSSSS BACARI IS WIRED FOR SOUND!!!
It's like a live Bacari tweet-blitz
Our shot selection has been terrible too, but that's because no one's getting dribble penetration
Burke has got to stop the one man game.
Is broke right now.
Between out shooting and our rebounding this is getting very frustrating.
Another missed offensive board.
Ok, the orange crush's whining is getting old.
NOW they're letting them play.
I do not understand why our big men have hands made of rocks.
They're ready to go home and we just got started.
of contact for a no call.
What a drive!
Ah Mitch you are such a freshman.
McGary really struggling tonight
Great tap in!
You go, Little Big Dog!
I love Little Dog. That is all.
That tap-in by Robinson out of nowhere!! Strong work.
Does Griffey always have to play well against us?
get going. Up by 4 and he's cold.
McGary seems lost out there.
Glen Robinson is playing huge right now.
I don't think it's given that kansas won't jump us since they beat 11 kstate. Man kstate winning their games this week would have been sweet. OT I know
GRIII is such a beast on the offensive boards
Burke 1-6 now with 2 turnovers. Really struggling.
Three ball! Burke says GTFO out of my house and go haunt someone else.
Burke's had enough carry the team on his back moments to earn our trust and let the other guys step up.
Pretty sick move by Paul.
the only big that can finish
How good is Illinois' D? Cause it looks pretty good so far; very intense.
They're obviously in a free fall. This game would be absolutely huge for them, especially considering the stretch they have ahead of them.
Paul's 3 ball is the only thing keeping them in the game.
I feel like we say this about someone every single game
That's because we're one of the worst teams at defending the three ball. If you have a hot shooter, you can beat us with even mediocre two-point performance. That is, if we're having an off night on offense.
Burke with the answering three! But seriously, Illinois and their inability to miss 3-pointers is really making me angry.
you go Burke.
Hey, there's Trey!
Let's take some better shots and take their crowd out of this before halftime. That three was much better but maybe only because it went in.
Not sure why Burke is trying to do it all right now, well, specifically on that play.
He can barely stand up on defense.
him out of a cold streak. We need a run to close the half strong.
This is a good game so far. Constant action on both ends.
The sound mixing for this game is just terrible, way too much random crowd noise covering up the floor noises
Brandon Paul is such a selfish player. Has he ever passed the ball in his career?
Not having Morgan is really hurting us right now.
Freshman have 19 of our 29, Hardaway and Trey have combined 7. Smh...
Burke and Hardaway shooting 25% each from the field. On the other hand if we can go into half with a lead with those two playing this bad I am feeling very confident for the second half.
Freshmen are carrying us right now. We just need to finish this half out, and then I look forward to Beilein halftime adjustments and Trey/Tim getting back into this game (although they both are Ding up pretty well).
Looking good so far - the Illinois 'make contested 3 pointer offense' isn't gonna be sustainable over 40 minutes
They're getting all of these 50/50 balls, they're out rebounding us, they're making the hustle plays.
This is where McGary needs to bring us some energy, THJ needs to get us going, we need to match their passion right now. If they were making shots we'd be down by 10. If we we're playing with their energy we'd be up 15.
Have you ever made a single positive comment?????????? EVER. You are a miserable person.
I'm pretty sure I was the one who made the "Happy Thread" just last night.
Also in this thread I've raved about GRIII and Stauskas.
You read what you want. It's the truth. We need to play better.
You are all good buddy. Referring to that miserable black cloud of negativity in the subject line
...this is awkward.
I think the two regular Yost guys are more negative than other posters.
That kid doing the YMCA in Illinois' band has abnormally long arms
These Illinois 3 balls are getting ridiculous
holy shit are they gonna make every 3?
Illinois needs to cool off from the 3.
COUNT IT! And the foul. Strong work, Trey Burke.
That should get Trey going!
They need to start missing some threes.
FYI if you have VLC 2.0.5 you can stream in pretty awesome quality by opening VLC and copy/pasting the following url:
You. You are awesome. Is this available for every game on BTN?
I think so. You go to this link first that lists all the games:
And then paste the game's url into VLC. Seems like it'll be available until the BTN gets wise to it.
Got it from here (2nd post in the thread)
Thanks a ton for this, great quality stream
Great quality but actually *too* good.
Keeps freezing for me, my shitty WOW internet connection can't handle it.
your passing lanes
with the silencer
Burke leaving a lot of his shots short today
I wish they didn't get so many offensive rebounds, also. Killer.
Wow, I don't remember ever scoring on the last possession before halftime. That was sweet.
Can be good sometimes.
Groce, you mad bro?
Good half. Destroying Kenpom's prediction if we can replicated this in the second half.
Michigan shot horrible from 3 and still leads by 8 on the road. I'll take it.
Game plan for second half: get some defensive rebounds
We should be up by 12. The foot's gonna be planted firmly on the throat soon after halftime.
I feel like if Michigan plays their game, they're up 17-18...if Illinois plays there, they're probably up 6-7.
That half was kind of a wash. Whoever wakes up, wins.
Considering Illinois is nailing all their 3s and seem to get 2nd chance shots every possession...I'll take it.
Actually they're only 5/15, which is 33%, which is about what their season average is. We need to limit the offensive rebounds.
Burke loves him some long 2s.
Strategy is Burke hold ball and take crappy shot. Thankfully that one went in.
The big screen behind the halftime announcers says M - I.
Obviously this means good things for Michigan.
Stop your whining!
There is no good enough in Michigan basketball anymore. Until we're up by 25, I'll be looking for things to improve.
Great first half. They're looking good tonight. Regardless of the negative outlooks by many of you (McGary, Trey Burke) they're playing well. Illinois is dumb for going away from Egwu; haven't heard his name in the past 15 minutes. If the Illini think Paul and co. are going to win this game by jacking up three's left and right they've got another thing comin'. Go Blue.
Solid first half, but no one told me whether or not Spike Albrecht's dad was a great youth basketball player.
That is true but at least we know that Stauskas can do more than shoot the three.
You're right, and I didn't hear if Glenn Robinson had an NBA body or not.
Once Tim gets it going in the second half this will turn into a blowout.
Really smart play by Hardaway there. I always hate it when a team has like 50 seconds left in the half and burns the clock down below 35. The obviously correct play in that situation is that if you have anything resembling a decent shot, hoist it up and leave more than 35 seconds on the clock. Michigan gets last possession out of Hardaway's smart move and makes it count.
Illinois is only 5-15 from 3 for 33.3%, I think they've just been timely. They were around 50% for awhile but cooled off the last few minutes of the half.
Paul is 3-6 and Abrams 1-2. Richardson is only 1-5 and Griffey (the other two shots) is 0-2. Summary: Richardson and Griffey can shoot threes all day if they want to. Someone needs to shut down Paul.
Don't they still shoot 24% normally? Not a lot better, but still better than average
In conference yes, but I think better than 33 overall
BACARI SAID ITS HAMMER TIME
BACARI SAID ITS HAMMER TIME
I'll take the lead, but I've been yelling "NOOOOO, TTTTRRREEEEEYYYYY!" a bit too much with some of that shot selection.
I love the speeches from Bacari. I swear that guy owns a costume shop with all the props he brings to pregame.
just good friends with carrot top
Execute offense - even if shots aren't falling. Still have to run something, too much standing around or Burke dribbling and chucking.
Match Illinois' effort, hustle and intensity. Losing too many 50/50 balls and getting outrebounded.
Do that and if Illinois wakes up we win by 10, if they stay sleep - we win by 20-25.
Just play Michigan Basketball. Period.
We get it.
mich is up 20-16 in rebounds. they could box out a little better on D but you're going to give up a few more rebounds when you guard the 3 harder than normal.
Are you sure that we're being out rebounded? The %'s are probably very close. In terms of sheer numbers, we have more boards.
He is so creative with the pregame.
like a bigger than 8 point lead?
Take away the last 4 shots they made, which were all about 25 foot 3's and we'd be up 35-15
It might feel that way because the final few minutes were pretty much all Michigan. Halftime came at a good time for the Illini because Michigan was starting to roll pretty well, hopefully we can continue on with that.
But if Morgan makes his layup, McGary makes his, Burke makes his free throw on the and one, Horford and Max B. don't fumble offensive rebounds and we score...that's like 10 more points.
Just been a sloppy/ugly half.
One of those games were we could be up big like you said but we're letting them hang around. Which is dangerous on the road.
The newspaper gig looks so much better when the students at Yost do it, just throwing that out there.
I wouldn't mind seeing Belein mix in a little more zone this half.
I agree. The first possession that they introduced it, the Illini threw the ball away because of the change in pressure.
The problem with zone is that using it against a good three point shooting team normally does not work. The one time Michigan used it effectively in this game was due more to surprise than anything.
i'm curious as to why zone? IL isn't shooting the lights out and it's usually tougher to rebound defensively while in zone.
Illinois Loyalty is the tune used for my high school's fight song. Ugh.
Morgan has always had horrible hands as well.
According to that shot, Illinois has at least 14 retired numbers.
ILLINOIS HAVE SOME STANDARDS!
how do you wait 53 years to retire a player's jersey? he's finally worthy after 53 years?
His first name wasn't unique enough.