If you'd like to help change the band, I recommend you try out and be a part of it.
Michigan Marching Band
Band members specifically were asking for comments in the "No Water Bottle" thread, for example and complaining about a lack of constructive feedback, so I figured I'd try to get some some.
Where have you been CRex?
Around. I put too many personal details or the like into some of those stories and some MGoStalking (or you could charitably call it Internet Detective Work) occurred and I had a gag order issued on future stories by the SO.
(I should just put this in my sig, comes up in every thread. Home, where everyone knows your name.)
Asking when the next edition would come out, every day...man...is that our low standard to throw out "Stalking" now?
P.S. after you've burned and buried the boy band music? Take the shovel, bury the shovel.
"That weird little drum cadence the band does between quarters needs to go away. Where the cymbal players run around and some drum sticks get tossed. Yes, I get it your coordinated, but it has no edge."
Just a FYI: That weird little drum cadence is Temptation and Hawaiian War Chant.
He's talking about the drum corps display they do between the 3rd and 4th quarter near the NW end zone.
I liked where the band used to be located, in the opposite side of the endzone. It was easier for more people to hear them. Im in Section 22 and it can be hard to hear them completely sometimes during games.
Other than not being able to always hear them, no complaints at all. And the hearing thing isn't their fault, more of the location.
What happened where's the "as the Asians turn" update?
My opinion: the RAWK music gets the student section pumped up and then pretty much no one else. Finding ways to get the student section "more rocking" is not a major concern... if the student section can't get excited already then shame on them.
I'm all for the Marching Band expanding their playlist a little but if they're going to be songs/chants that the crowd would sing along with, it had better be both clean and University of Michigan related.
The Delaware State band destroyed them? They were a joke. They got everybody hyped up but they had a guy singing thriller out of tune on the microphone. They showed none of the discipline that the MMB shows. I just get mad anytime people smear the MMB because I was in band in HS. If you want a change tell them don't complain about it that doesn't help at all.
DSU's band was incredible. I think I danced throughout the entire game.
You were probably dancing out of tune.
But it's not the same type of marching band. MMB is very traditional and DSU's isn't.
I apologize I didn't mean to say they lack tradition, I'm saying that MMB is a "traditional" marching band. It's to classify the style of how they march, play, etc.
And while I hope I don't offend anyone, if you told me an HBCU band was going to be playing in the Big House, I'd think it was a GIVEN that they might seem to blow MMB out of the water. When it comes to showmanship, tradition, etc., it's a different level, a different kind of tradition. A different kind of awesome.
Also, I wouldn't dream of criticizing MMB for it.
If the OP hadn't told me that an MMB member had specifically asked for it, I would have found this entire thread presumptive. What am I going to tell the band about how to "improve?"
It seems to me that the things that might need improving are out of the hands of individual MMB members reading here (music choices, placement in stadium, volume, whatever).
I will say this: please understand that some largest proportion of your listeners think you're effing awesome and we appreciate all the hard work you put in.
I was in the 5th row during the performances and the students were 10x louder for the DSU band than the MMB. Halftime was always my chance to sit down and relax because the band performances were usually pretty boring (there were 2 or 3 good ones in my 5 seasons there), but during the DSU performance I was standing up with the ENTIRE STUDENT SECTION until the MMB came on. I'm 100% with CRex on this one.
Be the first marching band in the nation to introduce the electric guitar.
Then give Jack White a scholarship and a giant bag of money.
I thought ND already did that with Freekbass
not an electric guitar
I've always thought that an MMB arrangement of "You Don't Know" by Jay - Z would be perfect after a sack or TFL. I'm at work so I can't post a link to a youtube clip but will later. I think of that picture of Alan Branch walking off the field after demolishing Morelli (?) and that song plays in my mind. I also see the student section doing that Lose Yourself hand bounce thing while the players go nuts and get fired up for the next play. Yeah, man...that'd be sweet. I think Iron Man gets played for the generic defensive play right now but, while I like it, a little variety would be nice.
It might be a good idea to set up a pattern. For example Temptation gets played after a 3rd down play. Everybody knows this, hence everyone knows what to do when they hear it. Example 2, the Finger Hex thing typically gets played going into a 3rd down to encourage a stop on 3rd. Again, people recognize it and they know what's going on, hence they participate.
The same thing should be done for Iron Man and You Don't Know. Keep Iron Man and the Finger Hex thing for after 2nd down. Insert "You Don't Know" for 1st down TFLs/Sacks. Boom, pavlovian conditioning and mass fan participation.
You don't know what you do...do...do...
Sure I do.
Or The Ruler's Back to fit with our revenge tour theme
stadium so the most fans can hear them. Rawk music is not the solution to fan participation. Winning and success on the field will cure most of what ails the Big House.
The MMB didn't cause global warming or the deforestation n the rain forest either. They need more brass players and less woodwinds. Problem solved.
The numbers of the band are bigger this year (both brass and woodwinds), so from size alone there should be more sound. With the new luxury boxes, the stadium as a whole is considerably louder, so while the band itself hasn't changed much, more crowd noise is being spread, making it seem like the band is quieter.
Yeah so we can have a band like MSU's. Sell out all the woodwinds. They need to be there if for nothing else then just for The Victors. It solves the volume problem but it doesn't make the music any better. Way less balance.
I'm pretty positive the band is loud enough, sometimes i think some of those guys are going to pass out from trying so hard. The problem is what they are playing...
thought Holst's Second Suite would lend well to a mb arrangement
Really though, I would rather have something that is musically technical over the trendy show, but that is what gets most people in the student section excited...It's a tradeoff
The MMB is awesome no matter how you slice it. A student organization that takes that much pride in what they do it really cool to watch no matter if you're just a fan, alumni, student. Just take pride and do what you do and stop worrying about the naysayers. 99% of people are leaving the stadium that day without one negative thing to say about the band. The 1% is going to bitch no matter what.
'Smoked' seems a little harsh. According to whom? The student block? The average fan that has never attended the University? Kids? Alumni?
The best thing about the band is that it's a connect between the 2 year old that automatically loves instruments (loud and shiny obviously) and the 90 year old that graduated in 1942. The band was there then and it's there now preserving the traditions and tying generations of fans together. It's something we can all rally behind, just like the football team.
The same holds true at the Black colleges. What they do is unique to their Universities and an awesome way to connect fans.
No matter how they continue to entertain and evolve my biggest hope would be that MMB doesn't try to be someone else's band. They're already great. Other bands are great too! Why do we have to compare them? Why can't we just enjoy them for what they are?
"I say "smoked" because schools like Grambling and Southern put on a freaking SHOW."
This is generally because their football teams DON'T put on a show.
they're black colleges and they tend to put pride in marching bands moreso than your run of the mill college. That's part of the reason why the battle of the bands are considered to be the super bowl of the marching bands. They spent a lot of time, prepping to entertain crowds and judges.
I'm hate to say this and I'll probably get negged to death for it, but you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to College bands. The University of Michigan marching band would get smoked by the DSU band? Are you fucking serious? This DSU band?
They are not even in the same class. Comparing the two bands is just silly. That's like comparing a minor league baseball team to a major league team. Actually, it's like comparing the DSU football team to the Michigan football team.
Ponder that for a minute, come up with an answer why, and you may have solved your problem.
Wait, we have a Marching Band? I havent heard them in at least 5 or 6 years.
nobody cares how precise or in tune you are. this is a football game. we want loud, raucus and fun. Every other band that's come to town in recent years has outshined the MMB in this department.
Also: play Rocky and Bullwinkle. It would bring the whole house down.
Actually, I'd like to start at the beginning. I agree that Varsity bores me. What I'd love to see is the pregame show help build the anticipation. The band comes out, the drum major bends backwards, they play the victors and the place is going nuts. Then, they play the opponent's fight song. I know that's tradition, and I'm not asking to mess with it. The problem is, the crowd needs to be built back up. Varsity isn't the song to do that. Perhaps this is where the Hawaiian War Chant/Temptation duo comes in, maybe something else. Either way, you get the excitement of the band rushing the field, then it dies. The crowd has to work itself back up by the time the players come out, instead of the band assisting in that role.
As for the game itself, I like MCalibur's idea of sticking with certain theme's so they become new traditions that people can anticipate.
Either way, we have a great band, hopefully this input from the mgocommunity can help improve things.
Perhaps this is where the Hawaiian War Chant/Temptation duo comes in, maybe something else.
They did bring in "the big cheer from the big house" a few years ago with Let's Go Blue. I agree that Temptation would be great to incorporate into pregame.
And it was an improvement over the previous situation (silence, if I remember properly).
pre 9/11, it was a straight drop after varsity, and then the ROTC color guard would be announced to raise the US flag to the Star Spangled Banner before the teams hit the field. After the banner, Victors off the field while the visiting players are coming out of the tunnel.
post 9/11, both teams are brought out to hear the national anthem, so Let's Go Blue sort of adds time for the teams to get up the tunnel, pump up the crowd, and split the M for the M Club Supports you banner to be set up. This is also when the band turned to the north endzone (to avoid the team) to play the Victors off the field instead of toward the press box (where there were previously no players).
Years ago, before the 90s, the band would play some random song after the opposing team's fight song. It would change every week, check out old pergames on youtube to see what I'm talking about. They starting playing Varsity every pergame in about 94 I want to say. Old people help me out here.
Tennessee has speakers in all 4-corners and also at the 50-yard line on each side of Neland that create a surround sound affect. Can this be done?
but I think you can for the halftime show. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I think since the halftime/pregame shows don't create interfering noise, it would be fine.
Miami (the Florida one) does mike their band the entire game. I've seen them play in the Orange Bowl and Joe Robbie//Pro Player/Landshark Stadium and they were miked in both. Of course they have a really small band.
To be clear, they mic in the band for pregame and halftime. During the game, they have a few members of the band in the upper bowl on the end opposite side and they simultaneously play Rocky Top in unison after a touchdown. It's pretty sweet, actually.
by 50 cent should be added to the MMB playlist!
as a MMB member, i'm, quite frankly, offended by the comments of DSU's band being better than us. yes, they played a fun show, but they sounded like crap. i'm sure if all of us in the MMB blasted as loud as we possibly could on our instruments and sound like crap, we could be just as "good" as they were. but as the MMB, we desire to put on GOOD performances that are MUSICAL performances. and, quite frankly, we're all trying as hard as we possibly can to play loud so everyone can hear us.
we work damn hard to make every show sounds good, is musical, and can try to please the musical tastes of everyone in the stadium [and, remember, we're a band that learns a new show for every home game. so, you know, we have five days to learn a new show while also taking a full class schedule]
and if it makes any of you feel any better, this year the shows will be better. boerma's choices for the shows this year is better than last years
Really only 7.5 hours. Including warm-ups, pre-game rehearsal, and putting a new show on the field. That only doubles on a road or bye week.
Any sections still waking up the president before gameday morning rehearsal? There's nothing quite like M Fanfare and the Victors on the president's lawn at 7am.
Trumpets and trombones either on the morning of MSU or OSU, depending on who's home that year.
Mary Sue, turn around and play at the law quad, play for SQ, then WQ
Thanks for the post. I'm not part of the MMB but I like to defend them. Let face it, people treat the band like an iPod.
but i'm pretty sure that there is a portion of the audience that is requesting something that we have played. like i know opera wasn't popular, but i'm pretty sure some part of the audience might have requested us playing something more like that.
the audience does not equal the student section. we can't cater strictly to them. we do have people that donate generously to the band and we have to play music that caters to them
He didn't say the MMB were doing a show from a musical, he said that their shows are musical.
Whether or not DSU is "better" people are saying they preferred them. That is telling. It doesn't matter what makes you "better" than them if it's not what people want. I don't think anyone goes to football games for a musical performance.
And really, the complaint isn't about the halftime shows. It's the in-game music, and Boerma sucks compared to Nix. Nix understood the MMB's role, and I'd give the band an assist for the Braylonfest comeback. Boerma, not so much.
Agreed on the band in Braylonfest. I was standing there, pissed off and freezing and the band cranks up. I had trained reflex to start chanting along with Let's Go Blue, some of the players started jumping around a little. A little later, touchdown, the band just goes insane and despite the fact a good 1/4 of the student section had already slunk out I the place went nuts and I could barely hear myself. I miss those days.
Also after we kicked a field goal in the first OT and the defense had to come out and keep Sparty out of the endzone, I remember the band keeping us cranked up that defensive series.
so, what, we don't go insane anymore? i'd like to point out we play our hearts out for the team. MSU this past year. i know we lost, but we were right on the sidelines. we were the when we went into overtime and we played our brains out.
and if i recall correctly, we're still playing let's go blue. have you decided to not chant along with us anymore?
like look, i'm not trying to make an argument with you. i'm not trying to bash your comments or anything because frankly, i know there's some truth. i do agree we should be playing more pump up music in the stands [i personally feel that although people do love let's go blue, we play it so much that people just kinda get bored of doing the chant]. but look, we're trying everything we can to get everyone involved. trust me, we've been trying. i think we're looking into possibly boosting the band's volume in the stands? (idk, boerma mentioned something in an email about that, but he never elaborated so i have no clue what he means)
The 03-05 bands were my gold standard for bands, it seems like the volume and excited they generated tailed off in the later years. Part of that might have to do with the general level of excitement in the stadium. We had strong teams those years, so the fans were in general more excited, which has to help.
Since then it seems like the band got quieter and the music selection was less exciting, to me at least. I remember when the band would start up, everyone would get on their feet and I would swear I could feel my fillings vibrating.
One of my memories from the MSU 3 OT game was the coaching staff standing there, with their body language telegraphing "Oh shit" when the band director just started gesturing for "Let's Go Blue" and kept gesturing for the band to get louder and louder and started firing everyone back up. Like ShockFX says, the band gets credit for that. Half the coaching staff was just grimacing in pain and not trying to fire up the players when the band came through. In more recent tight games (App State, Wisconsin two years again, etc) the band has just seemed flat. This isn't to say the members of the band are bad, just that I've never seen that fire come out of the director in those games. Half the time it just seems like the band is playing out of reflex, not out of passion.
Of course it's all been downhill since Revelli: 2.4 Revelli teaches “The Victors” to the football team
well i mean it always helps peoples' opinion of us when our football team wins and does well...
Well yes, but I distinctly remember the band as an integral part of the Braylonfest experience. The Wisconsin win in '08, not so much. Can't put my finger on exactly why, but that's how it sticks in my memory.
Just coaching a band.
I am a member of the band as well and these are the same problems i've noticed from day one. Just because i'm in the band doesn't mean that i'm oblivious to what the purpose of the organization is: to ENTERTAIN the stadium. People don't go to the big house to see the band (i'm pretty sure of this fact) they go to see the team kick ass every weekend.
Actually I agree with some of the OP's opinions on the matter but what really pisses me off is other band members get all hurt over someone's opinion, and that someone being a person whom they've never met.
With that said, there are some new things being organized this year by the directors that let the band members have a bigger say in what is played (which as far as i know, hasn't been done before) I hate boerma (the head director) but he is trying to listen to the masses. So i guess just sit tight MGoCommunity, things are starting to get planned out, very much like Rich Rod's Revenge Tour.
Again, if you are a band member, don't come to post just to bitch at the people who are bitching because you aren't helping either; try and read ALL of the comments and you'll see there are some level headed ideas and posters who aren't just saying "letz play RAWK music and mic the band up; the band sucks now yo!"
p.s.- I am very much in favor of starting to put in more rap or r&b into the band's playlist, i was even pushing for a TI show (with autotune!)
i can't figure out if this was directed at my original post... but i wasn't posting just to bitch. i'm not ignoring the fact that we are there to entertain. but as you should know, we stress musicality in the band because we want don't want to be some other band. we want to be better than other bands that just blare loudly.
and plus, i was really posting to give some insight into some of the band member's thoughts. even if you dont agree
Is the problem with the band.
Sorry for your general discust of the MMB. I will now attempt to adress your concerns and maybe lead you into a little insight. Your main concern seems to be the music that the MMB plays. The reason we don't play "rap" music is that the image of the MMB does not want to be associated with the character of person that puts out a rap single. Also such songs can end up coming out sounding cheesey sas you may have heard last season in the Big House from visiting bands. Whether you like it or not the MMB and many other organizations on campus are mosly run thanks to the generocity of the boosters. Because of this it is our duty to play what they would want to hear such as Let's Go Blue. This is just the way it is, if you want to change it maybe we could put a big Dominoes Logo on the back of the uniform or implement the Bell Tire FIRST DOWN! since i get jealous everytime i hear that down the road. Maybe if you could participate in one of there rehersals. There are plenty of them as they practice an hour and a half a day during the school year ontop of some of the hardest academics in the country. Im sorry that all the old traditionals in pregame put you to sleep. Maybe you should realise how lucky the University is to have such a rich tradition. If you want maybe we'll just change the fight song to a something a little more current for you. We wouldn't want you to get bored.
The reason we don't play "rap" music is that the image of the MMB does not want to be associated with the character of person that puts out a rap single.
I liked the part where he insulted the Notorious Cone and Jack "President" Kennedy.
I still hold hope Kennedy will toss up a MP3 up for that song or start dealing mix CDs out of his dorm room.
Is the best kind of racism
The reason we don't play "rap" music is that the image of the MMB does not want to be associated with the character of person that puts out a rap single.
Right, and Ozzy Osbourne is a paragon of the type of character the MMB wants to associate itself with.
If it sounds cheezy, get a better arrangement or an arranger who actaully wants to make it sound good. It can be done.
If Haithcock and Boerma don't want to play music vocal fans want to listen to, then they shouldn't bitch about piped in music.
My word choice may not be very good but I think my point was made
Not on that particular point. The only reason rap or hip-hop isn't played by the MMB is because it's pinnacle leadership (Boerma, Haithcock) doesn't want to.
Only if your point is that you're kind of a racist toolbag.
The rationale for the piped in music was that is what the team listens to during practice, so hearing it pumps them up and they requested it. I feel like we kind of have a disconnect on the band's purpose. The marching bands existed because they were entertaining (michigan Marching Band played multiple Super Bowl halftime shows) and they pumped the team/crowd. If the team needs speakers to pump in music then something has gone wrong with the music selection.
You mean disgust, not "discust."
I think what he meant to say was "everybody only wants to discuss me, so this must mean I'm disgusting."
Dude, the reason band does not play rap music is because it is boring without the lyrics. Find a rap instrumental sometime and see how long it will hold your attention.
There is a difference between instrumental and something with a full drumline behind it:
That's just the NC State Drumline goofing around, toss in some horns and it works. Given that MMB does a lot of medleys, you could work something like that out.
About 20 seconds which is perfect for stand tunes. We're not talking about a half time show here, we're talking about the dead time in between plays. Eight measures is all you need.
Here are a few to look up on youtube, they're basically already in MMB arrangements:
- You don't Know - Jay -Z
- All the way turned up - Rosco Dash
- X Gon' Give it to ya - DMX
There are countless others. This is a matter of
culture preference not of anthology.
Good point, maybe as a stands tune a few rap songs would work. The MMB does have TWO arrangements of Riding Dirty, each are about one line long and that is about as much as I can take before I'm bored.
Another idea is a medley of rap songs, just 10 to 20 seconds of each before they get old and then move on to another one. I think that is the only way you are going to see a rap halftime show.
Re: the alleged student/band member discussing rap and why it's not played:
Others have addressed your arguments better than I can, but. . . come on: You can't be a student at U of M and be this poor at spelling and grammar, can you? (unless English is your 2nd language and you're not in a major that requires any writing). Yikes. That was. . . hard to read. If you're going to be overly defensive and presumptuous re: the other posters' knowledge/lack of knowledge of the MMB's hard work, somewhat stereotypical, and possibly racist, at least do it with a little better grasp of the written word.
No one is faulting any one of the band players individually. I have had housemates that were band members and they put a lot of time and effort into the shows. Many of them spent hours and hours only to learn that they had been beat out for their position and wouldn't march on game day.
However, what is played, how it is played, what formations are marched, etc are not under the control of the band. It IS under the control of Boerma. If there is a change to be made, it should be there. Remember which way shit runs.....downhill.
Ultimately, the AD is responsible for where the band is located. Location in the stands may help volume/propagation problems.
Moving the band from the student section will result in lost revenue. Student ticket < and ticket price elsewhere. That is one of the main reasons they moved them into the student section in the first place.
They tried moving the band once, and people in sec 41 or 42 or whatever that was complained about the band standing up for 100% of the games.
I've simply identified who's responsible for location.
Is that actually true though? Aren't all students basically guaranteed season tickets at student prices? If so, the band isn't replacing student section seats, it's displacing them. Unless there is a strict quota on student tickets, the number of full price vs. student price tickets has nothing to do with where the band sits.
I think it has more to do with the whole "standing up thing" The band would stand up most of the game and old farts behind them would get mad. (I remember getting yelled at a lot; "sit down I can't see!")
This was the athletic department's thought process:
"The band stands up a lot. Students stand the whole game. Let's put them in the same section."
The athletic department just put two and two together.
That, and moving the MMB to the student section opened up that 500-seat block for seat-licensed season tickets. I'd argue it was more about revenue than it was about the standing up issue. After all, there was a reason why the AD put the MMB on the field for big games and sold the seats.
I had friends in band during my time in undergrad and they all worked their asses off. Some of them for four years and never made it out to march for most of that time, yet they showed everyday to practice and worked their asses off. Any problem doesn't come from the band members, it comes from the faculty/staff leadership.
Or those sponsored halftime shows. Every time I hear "This show made possible with a gift from..." I know some old person gave a lot of money to hear something they wanted. Maybe the problem is the student section should sponsor a show...
The person who donates the money for a show has zero input about what's played in that show. They sell the sponsoring rights seasons in advance (a few years back they were already scheduled through 2010, if I'm recalling correctly). Shows aren't decided until the summer before the season. There's no connection there.
I was actually very excited that I was able to get tickets in section 44 for the Uconn game, across from the band! You can't hear them well enough where I usually sit! (South end zone!)
But I was in high school marching band for four years. Some observations I've made in the 25 years I've been listening to the MMB:
- Saxophone player speaking here: woodwinds should not be carrying the melody if you want people to get pumped up. Lots of brass and percussion please; the more the better.
- When conductors and directors of marching bands try to get too artsy with their repertoire, they lose the crowd. If the audience in a football game wants to hear "The Magic Flute", they'll go to see it at Hill Auditorium. A marching band is not a concert band standing on grass.
- Totally agree with the "no boy bands" point made earlier. On the other hand, the big bands from the '30s and '40s had some great tunes that would be ideal: Caravan, In the Mood, Take the 'A' Train, etc.
Anyway, my $0.02, (and with inflation, worth even less).
but if you were in band and it was your passion you would want to do a good job at it, right? You probably wouldn't want people complaining about it 24-7 either. That's how I see it. Support them for what they do. Contact Boerma if you want a change.
I didn't say that the band could be "imprecise" for the sake of volume. Quite the contrary. In a stadium the size of the Big House, lack of precision + volume just sounds like droning, (see: "soccer, World Cup, vuvuzelas").
The problem with trying to play with dynamics in a football stadium is that the band is trying to fill a huge space with sound, dealing with echoes and reflected sound, and trying to overcome the crowd noise. Dynamics are a tricky business. The human ear hears acoustic structure pretty well, (also dissonance, which is why the band can't play out of tune). So, the only way to really be heard over the din is to play "loud" and "louder", but with precision.
You make a good point. There seems to be an attitude among some band members posting here that good music can't be loud or fun, and fun music can't be good (or "musical"). This is silly, as proven by the MMB itself many times. Fun and/or popular music can be done really well (see, from recent MMB albums: Green Day, Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, and my guilty pleasure, Livin' On a Prayer (it was played during a few epic comebacks, what can I say)). Big band is also great (In the Mood, Caravan, Big Noise from Winnetka). All of these are loud, uptempo tunes and can get people pumped up and having fun. They are also, particularly in well-done arrangements, good music. Don't be afraid to throw in some schtick, like the Ferris Bueller or Monty Python shows, or the "Can't Turn You Loose" cake formation, which always gets people cheering.
Consider the Broadway musicals Spamalot and The Producers. These were both pure, goofy schtick, but it was really well done schtick. Because of this, they were wildly popular but still respected by "serious" critics (and each won a pile of Tony awards). Or consider the oft-mentioned drum corp style bands like Grambling etc. No one doubts their technical prowess, but they are also a riot to watch.
I think this overly serious attitude is coming from the directors - I base that on my years in high school marching band, where we similarly had a director who sometimes thought we should only play serious music. But this isn't going to work. You can't play opera with huge dynamic ranges on the field, because no one can sing a long to it and no one can hear it. Save that for the Hill shows, or whenever people are coming specifically to see the band. Then you can really show off your multi-dimensional music chops and let the flute section have a solo. On the field, where you're vying against all sorts of half time noise and distractions, you have to be bold, fun, and loud. You can definitely do this without sacrificing musical integrity - so go for it, have fun, play well, and, most importantly, be entertaining. It's why we love you guys.
The Monty Python show is still my favorite because it was not only about the music, it was about fun and incorporated the football rivalries too. My second favorite band show was in South Bend when the ND band did a tribute to the Pixar movie 'Cars'. Got a great reaction, fun formations (who doesn't love fire extinguishers) and music nearly everyone had fresh on their minds.
While the music is primary, it's also about grabbing the audience with visuals and things they can relate to without getting a headache (like opera).
Oh come on man, the boy band show was pretty well received in the student section.
Inevitable bitter MGoUser response: "I was in the student section and i didn't cheer at all"
Well, you were one of few, most people around me went crazy. Nothing gets drunk sorority girls off their rocker like boy bands. All though I guess nobody in the stadium above the age of 24 or outside of sections 26-33 enjoyed it.
There need to be more sketch shows. That Ferris Bueller show was fantastic, and nothing has come close to that in my time here. I think the band's problem is that most shows seemto revolve around one particular style of music or one artist. There is no way that someone in the crowd of 110000 doesn't hate that particular artist/genre and won't get offended. I think that was part of the reason why the Ferris Bueller show was well received. Aside from being innovative and entertaining, the music selection wasn't limited to one genre or artists, so you weren't hearing the same thing for the entire show. I'm not a creative genius but maybe the band should start considering show themes that don't restrict song and genre selection for each show.
Also bullwinkle should be played in the stands.
There's lots of it out there. If nothing else, play all the NFL films shit. That stuff is awesome. Also an arrangement of Dvorak's 9th, 4th movement would be awesome.
Not a stroll up and down the field band. Look at the pregame back in '86 -- highstepping everywhere. That's a marching band. After the best band entrance in the country, the energy level just goes way down for our band. Apperantly they stopped highstepping The Victors around '97 or so. Why? Bring it back. I even like how they salute the other team -- move around a little bit, don't do that slow highstep thing that you do now.
I agree. A little movement would go a long way, I think, in helping get the energy level up and make the show more aesthetically pleasing.
The only counter I can think of is that it's probably really freakin' hard to highstep while simultaneously carrying around and blowing into an instrument trying to play in tune. I imagine the movement was toned down to accommodate the band playing louder and more precise.
I just watched the Norwegian Royal Guard or something do some sort of show and they did a piece that was a tribute to Ennio Morricone. It included "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" and "Ecstasy of Gold," among others.
People on the board have said this before, but the MMB should do a show like this, with Ecstasy of Gold being balls to the walls blast your goddamn face off finale. Then recycle that to be used between 3rd and 4th quarter.
I love how band threads get the most traffic on this board. :)
I'm a big fan of the MMB. Always have been. Whenever I go to games with my dad, I always make sure we're in that stadium a half hour early so I won't miss pregame. With that said, I agree with those who said the pregame needs to be tweaked just a bit. And by tweaked, I mean go back to the format it was in the 80's through the mid-90's. Varsity is not needed and it's not enough to keep the crowd pumped up. Everything to that point is exciting and then...Varsity. It just doesn't fit. Up until 1996, the band never played Varsity during pregame. Back then, the band would break off into a different formation once they reached the 50 yard line for the opposing team's fight song and then play a random fun song where they would go nuts and sometimes even dance. The crowd would always eat that up.
The high stepping during the Victors in the old days was more pleasing to watch but I understand that it's much more tiring to do that for an entire show. The Victors was played a little slower back then and I preferred that tempo. I like that the band plays "Let's go blue," now right before the national anthem and that the football team runs through them when they touch the banner. Those are nice recent additions. Get rid of Varsity and play a song that gets the crowd excited and the pregame is perfect.
Here's the band's pregame from the 1987 Rose Bowl. After saluting Arizona State, they launch into "Living in America," where they dance.
This format is perfect.
When it comes to halftime, it all comes down to the music choices the director makes. Opera music is just not going to cut it for a football game.